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ramana wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 02:38 A couple of questions for the members?
1) What is driving Trump against India? Give listed reasons like a) ...b), c)...

a) As for the 25% additional tariff for buying Russian oil, Trump and US are desperate for a cease fire. Trump promised end to the Ukranian war on the first day itself yet there is no end in sight. Of all the poll promised the only thing he succeeded in was stopping fresh immigration. He needs a win. The US needs a ceasefire. They went to war with Russia expecting a win but now lost 20% of Ukraine with Russia threatening to take what it wants. If Russia achieves its goals in Ukraine and then announces a cease fire, the US will lose its face big time, more than it already has. No one will trust the west anymore.

b) For not signing the deal yet and imposing 25% tariffs, Trump wants to dump his agri and diary products in India.

c) He wants to browbeat India into falling into the western camp, though realistically it's not possible. Even they should know it.

d) He is an idiot and he is being led by idiots.

Yes MUTUwani is Neo Shalab Kumar.
VT is right Logan Act wont apply to her as she is not representing India.
There are a group of individuals in DC and Silicon Valley who think they can browbeat India for their success.
And they are well connected in India and in US.

Asha Jadeja Motwani
@ashajadeja325
The only Indian American megadonor to the Republican Party is me. I strongly recommend that the Indian side reach out to me for my opinion on what’s going on in Trump’s mind. I may not be accurate, but I will be close. Please look at the federal election commission website to see who is donating what. It’s all out there for the world to see.

Looks like Modi is not answering Trump's calls and Trump is trying to go through a mediator.

Putin was cheerful while Trump was subdued and looked like going through the motions.

At this point of time, Trump seems to be happy he got Putin to the talking table albeit by threatening India with secondary sanctions. Let us see how long this will last, but Trump's only play now seems to be threatening India.

I have a feeling Putin is happy with what he got of Ukraine for now and may make a deal. He can always revisit the issue later.

ramana wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 02:38 A couple of questions for the members?
1) What is driving Trump against India? Give listed reasons like a) ...b), c)...

2) What do members think of people like Asha Motwani (specifically) who are interjecting themselves into Indian foreign policy?
Again give answer a).. b)... c)....

Note with respect to 2) US has a law that which requires registering as a foreign agent.

a) As I mentioned before this is an ambiguous relationship from the beginning. On the Indian side we signed the 3/4 letter agreements thinking key American technology will arrive for the benefit of India assent. Nothing substantial came. On the US side they were thinking some major defense purchases will happen and yet they denied their crown jewels for sale. India never brought anything that will get major offensive teeth to her armed forces. Same goes with trade and geopolitics. Tell me in which forum Indian interests were defended against China or Pakistan. The whole Taliban Afgan deal was done without even giving India a seat in the negotiation. There were constant attempts to deny furthering of Indian interests and constant signs of internal interference and sabotage on any India ambitions.

b) However there was an appearance of a relationship with a bit of neutrality. All that changed post May 10, 2025. American's saw Indian hard power in play without any strategic restrain and they definitely were shocked. A combination of local innovation, Russian and French weapon systems destroyed Paki assets that included some American Radar and fixed wing systems. American built nuclear C3I systems were destroyed beyond repair. If India continued there is no Pakistan and that should have alerted some of the old guard in CIA and State department. Suddenly they are seeing a major power in Asia that is a real potential threat to their dominance in IOR.

c) Combine that with Modi reading the riot act to Trump about his casual approach to the Paki terrorist posture against India from Canada. Indian negotiators were not ready to compromise on any Indian agricultural interests in the trade negotiations. Trump does not have a sense how much India has grown in economic and strategic size today. He does not have any understanding that with the current heft, India is not looking for any subservient relationship with the Americans.

d) Finally unlike China which has developed real leverage against and American action, India seems like not having any leverage. This may not be true if deeper analysis is done, but at the surface level Trump admin thinks they can beat India and get away with it.

The above are hard facts, the rest of the things like some noise from the Indian diaspora and media is just that -- noise. In the next few weeks and months, we will see how Modi is going to deal with this. They will first prove that 50% tariff is small fry and India is not going to budge an inch by bully tactics. Next they will start pressing the right buttons for the Americans to understand that they are not going to gain anything from pushing India out of their circle of influence. We have the precedence of how China and Canada was dealt with when they try to fool around. Modi admin is not the one who is going to back off from such bully tactics, period.

^^"williams" - powerful post, panthah

Putin was given an opportunity to show who is boss.

Very poor preparation on the Americans’ part. It is advertised as essentially an announcement of major progress. And Putin gets into his Illuyshin and flies out of a major airbase. After taking on NATO and winning.

Note that all other leaders fly Boeing or airbus.

These are not good optics.

hanumadu wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 08:02 Putin was cheerful while Trump was subdued and looked like going through the motions.

Thats perhaps because he literally is. He has worn diapers since the 1990s due to fecal incontinence. However, his doctor certified him as supremely fit.

Obamudu: https://youtube.com/shorts/Y5EoI09wTVw? ... AYdXFzM3Cm

Trump generally looks pretty good for his age-orange make up and all.

Putin looks 20 years younger than his age. Trump comparatively looked bloated. I think when we examine Americans and also Canadians in relation to Europeans (except British) we notice how different from the usual body habitus people are here.

Indian channels are reporting that Trump said there will not be any secondary tariffs for now but if there is no progress in 2-3 weeks, there might be which is as good as having them now. No body will make any purchases with such uncertainity. Also, fatigue sets in for India and Russia and won't care anymore. Putin laid some conditions and Trump agreed. If progress isn't made means Ukraine and NATO are playing truant.

Putin pointed out in the press conference that since Trump tool over, US-Russia trade grew by 20%. Trolling of the best kind. Imposing sanctions on India for doing what they themselves are doing is absolute brazenness. I hope nothing comes out of the talks and let's see what Trump can do.

sanjaykumar wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 09:29 Putin was given an opportunity to show who is boss.

Very poor preparation on the Americans’ part. It is advertised as essentially an announcement of major progress. And Putin gets into his Illuyshin and flies out of a major airbase. After taking on NATO and winning.

Note that all other leaders fly Boeing or airbus.

These are not good optics.

Putin's jet escorted by 4 F22 fighters in the American airspace.
B2 stealth bomber flying overhead.
Trump waiting at the red carpet
Trump letting Putin speak..first . unusually subdued
Both of them getting into the Beast !!

As NY Times .. every thing was not protocol but these days it is what trump says. !

hanumadu wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 07:06

Asha Jadeja Motwani
@ashajadeja325
The only Indian American megadonor to the Republican Party is me. I strongly recommend that the Indian side reach out to me for my opinion on what’s going on in Trump’s mind. I may not be accurate, but I will be close. Please look at the federal election commission website to see who is donating what. It’s all out there for the world to see.

Looks like Modi is not answering Trump's calls and Trump is trying to go through a mediator.

Possible.

Modi is the last leader who Trump should have messed with.

sanjaykumar wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 09:48 Trump generally looks pretty good for his age-orange make up and all.

Putin looks 20 years younger than his age. Trump comparatively looked bloated. I think when we examine Americans and also Canadians in relation to Europeans (except British) we notice how different from the usual body habitus people are here.

for conspiracy theorists ..was it really Putin

India Gives a Huge Shock to USA on Russian Oil India USA Tariff Modi vs Trump I Aadi Pathikrit Show

India Gives a Huge Shock to USA on Russian Oil, India USA Tariff Modi vs Trump I Aadi Pathikrit Show

drnayar wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 12:39

sanjaykumar wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 09:48 Trump generally looks pretty good for his age-orange make up and all.

Putin looks 20 years younger than his age. Trump comparatively looked bloated. I think when we examine Americans and also Canadians in relation to Europeans (except British) we notice how different from the usual body habitus people are here.

for conspiracy theorists ..was it really Putin

How can it be?

Over the past decade they have given him Cancer, Heart attacks, Kidney failure, Strokes, Parkinson's, ...

Dude has survived Obama and Oumuamua

My bet: EU will NOT impose sanctions or tariffs on India.

1) They want access to India's markets, and to fill an emerging space that America will be locked out of by India-imposed reciprocal tariffs.
2) They realise that such actions against India will have no effect at all on Putin's intentions regarding Ukraine. Resident Chump has shown that he himself can be played for a fool by the Russians. IF the US had a capable negotiator and Putin's back was almost to the wall, EU might believe that they and the Americans had come 90% of the way to a favourable deal... so MAYBE sanctioning India could help push Russia to concede the remaining 10%. But that is not the case at all, as Alaska demonstrated.
3) Finally, they know that they are major importers of Russian energy and resources themselves-- and logic that was applied to punish India (for not giving in to America's unreasonable demands on trade) can be used against them too. What if tomorrow, Resident Chump tells France or Germany that they will have to face 30% tariffs for purchasing Russian natural gas, and arm-twists other nations in the EU to go along with him?

Honestly, India should make a great show of lowering all import barriers to EU agricultural products (they are not all that much in quantity, after all) while slapping 100% additional tariffs on American agricultural products.

We know that Scott Bessent is personally invested to the tune of 600 million in soybean and corn farming in North Dakota. So kick him directly in the nuts by tariffing the hell out of those two American crops specifically.

ramana wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 07:03 Yes MUTUwani is Neo Shalab Kumar.
VT is right Logan Act wont apply to her as she is not representing India.
There are a group of individuals in DC and Silicon Valley who think they can browbeat India for their success.
And they are well connected in India and in US.

How is Motwani well connected in India? Not doubting you, but who is she connected with in India?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uEcHHhAt ... ture=share

Which door do I leave from?
At Harvard, we don't end our sentences with prepositions.
Well, in that case, which door do I leave from?
What democratic eloquence?
You asked the question, sir. Let me answer it. The genius of the constitution is that it can always be changed. The genius of the constitution is that it makes no permanent rule other than its faith in the wisdom of ordinary people to govern themselves. Faith in the wisdom of the people is exactly what makes the Constitution incomplete and crude.
No, sir. Our founding parents were pompous, middle-aged white farmers, but they were also great men because they knew one thing that all great men should know, that they didn't know everything.
They knew they were going to make mistakes, but they made sure to leave a way to correct them. They didn't think of themselves as leaders. They wanted a government of citizens, not royalty. A government of listeners, not lecturers.
A government that could change, not stand still. The president isn't an elected king, no matter how many bombs he can drop, because the crude constitution doesn't trust him. He's a servant of the people. He's a bum. Okay, Mr. Pitan, he's just a bum. And the only bliss that he's searching for is freedom and justice.

powerful words

Is she pushing for investments that would personally benefit her ?

^^^^
It is up to the US government officials, Republican Party members, and US business people to figure out how to bring Trump to his senses. It says something (not good, in case you are wondering) about their system when foreign and economic policy becomes so whimsical, personalised and utterly corrupted. The wise move is to de-couple and de-risk from this failing system. I cannot think of anything more foolish than investing in it.

sanjaykumar wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025 09:48 Trump generally looks pretty good for his age-orange make up and all.

Putin looks 20 years younger than his age. Trump comparatively looked bloated. I think when we examine Americans and also Canadians in relation to Europeans (except British) we notice how different from the usual body habitus people are here.

At the graves of Russian pilots who died in Alaska in WW2, Putin repeatedly knelt to place flowers. Even for someone 20 years younger like me,
doing the equivalent of 20 squats can be a strain.