India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

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Boston Brahmins. Still a dig on Hindus
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KL Dubey wrote: 02 Sep 2025 04:26 While people like Navarro have very little idea of what they are talking about, we shouldn't fixate too much on the "brahmin" appellation. In USA "brahmin" is often used to denote "elite" in general, and not the actual caste/jati/varna that is meant in Bharat.
This is the exact same argument given by Pagalika Goose and her hubby. Also another fool of an ass INC piddi did the same. This is mind boggling coming from a supposedly self-avowed BJP supporter, scientist/technologist par excellence, and an intellectual to boot.
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pravula wrote: 02 Sep 2025 04:34 Boston Brahmins. Still a dig on Hindus
100%.
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pravula wrote: 02 Sep 2025 04:34 Boston Brahmins. Still a dig on Hindus
An American elite that abstains from meat and alcohol cannot exist.

(Yes, I know the old prohibitions are largely broken today. But then, the elite status derived from a discipline of which these were a minor part.)
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A_Gupta wrote: 02 Sep 2025 06:51
pravula wrote: 02 Sep 2025 04:34 Boston Brahmins. Still a dig on Hindus
An American elite that abstains from meat and alcohol cannot exist.

(Yes, I know the old prohibitions are largely broken today. But then, the elite status derived from a discipline of which these were a minor part.)
Trump is a teetotaler, but lives on McD
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Former NSA of United States Jake Sullivan.

"Trump has thrown the relationship with India away. Germany or Japan will look at India and say that could be us tomorrow. America’s friends will think that they can’t rely on us in any way”.
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I wrote about Terence Tao, one of the most renowned mathematician having second thoughts about remaining in USA.

Well.. In an interview with the South China Morning Post published on August 27, 2025, Tao was asked, "Will you leave US for China?" He replied, "It depends," highlighting the uncertainty surrounding the current research funding environment. Tao elaborated that the situation is "very fluid and unstable right now—far more than it has been at any previous point in the last 30 years.
‘Will you leave US for China?’ It depends, mathematician Terence Tao says

My take - Terence Tao is regarded as one of the greatest living mathematicians, sometimes called the “Mozart of Math.” Given his stature, many countries and leading universities would very likely welcome him enthusiastically if he chose to relocate.

China - Already making overtures, offering stable funding and prestige appointments.
Australia - His home country would be proud to have him back, if he ever wanted to return.
India: Top institutions would surely extend invitations, both for prestige and to inspire young researchers.
Europe (e.g., Cambridge, Oxford, ETH Zürich, Max Planck): Well-funded and research-oriented, they’d be keen to host him.
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Meanwhile :Indian Army contingent has reached Fort Wainwright, Alaska USA for the 21st edition of Yudh Abhyas 2025 (01 – 14 Sept).

Alongside U.S. 11th Airborne Division troops, they’ll train in heliborne ops, mountain warfare, UAS/counter-UAS & joint tactical drills—boosting UN PKO & multi-domain readiness.
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@SirJambavan
Americans treated him far worse even before he became PM. He didn't care for his ego and built bridges. And the US burned those bridges now.
Unfortunately for you, Laura, we don't live on just yesterday's news. We remember.

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It’s insane that Modi apparently thinks this sort of thing will make the Americans treat him better.

https://x.com/narendramodi/status/1962345355045158979
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Bharadwaj wrote: 01 Sep 2025 07:51 https://x.com/shivaroor/status/1962326798865490241?s=46
“Brahmins profiteering at the expense of the Indian people,” says @RealPNavarro.

Clearly some desi on Team Trump has told him “Sir, the racist shit didn’t really land, let’s try caste.”

Attack Dog-in-Chief’s latest right ahead of Modi-Putin meet.


I think GOI has to respond to this. Navarro has crossed all lines.
Sir he is chanjai Rahut for Trump; we can ignore him and not give any importance
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This is a racist + casteist slur. It may have come from Navarro's ignorance but there is no need to defend his malicious intent saying Boston variety etc. Especially here on BRF.
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There is 0 ignorance. These are deliberate acts. Few days ago, He published photo of Namo in HIndu attire meditating. Not to forget the various troubles they are fermenting in India with their 0.5 front. Agitation in MH to Dussehra festivals being targeted.
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https://x.com/ramana_brf/status/1962629132271161532
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Look at the overall flows. It's dead even. Trump gives a partial picture.
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This data should also go viral
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uddu wrote: 02 Sep 2025 15:46 There is 0 ignorance. These are deliberate acts. Few days ago, He published photo of Namo in HIndu attire meditating. Not to forget the various troubles they are fermenting in India with their 0.5 front. Agitation in MH to Dussehra festivals being targeted.

If these were calculated to rile up Indians, its working. I suggested to not get fixated on this here. A look at X posts shows literally hundreds of anti Hindu slurs day in and day out. We should take note but not get riled up at every turn. Ron Vara's days as advisor are numbered. Let him and his boss wallow (literally) in their own excrement.
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The objective is not to rile up Indians. Create division within Indian society and give ammunition to the opposition. Indians gave it back to Peter with wits literally in Social media and forcing his deputies in India to come and defend Uncle Sam.
https://x.com/RohitInExile/status/1962371925772206355
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As a Brahmin, I can confirm this works. I just whisper 'Bhiksham Dehi' at the petrol pump and they not only fill my tank for free but also polish my car's windshield.
There are so many such comments. I will just list the links to them.
https://x.com/BattaKashmiri/status/1962474183570682139
https://x.com/KiranKS/status/1962476427485561278
https://x.com/wittybinod/status/1962467123500023974
https://x.com/ragiiing_bull/status/1962765118594510909
https://x.com/protosphinx/status/1962397759019036698
https://x.com/satoverma/status/1962357835544830380
https://x.com/VarierSangitha/status/1962474857498866028
https://x.com/BattaKashmiri/status/1962564010609713357
https://x.com/sriranga92/status/1962398949836476834
https://x.com/BrahminSpeaks01/status/19 ... 1642910155
https://x.com/Neurochauhan/status/1962395130956337168

https://x.com/total_woke_/status/1962473344776696123
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Peter Navarro : Attacks Brahmins

Karnataka : Chamunda is not Hindu

Tamilnadu : Eradicate Sanatan

Telangana : Attack Marwadis

Maharashtra : Jarange attacks Mumbai

Manipur : Fresh efforts at violence

None of these events are connected!
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KL Dubey wrote: 02 Sep 2025 17:11... A look at X posts shows literally hundreds of anti Hindu slurs day in and day out. We should take note but not get riled up at every turn....
Take note for what?
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uddu wrote: 02 Sep 2025 17:40 The objective is not to rile up Indians. Create division within Indian society and give ammunition to the opposition. Indians gave it back to Peter with wits literally in Social media and forcing his deputies in India to come and defend Uncle Sam.

.....

None of these events are connected!
Excellent summary.
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https://www.semafor.com/article/08/28/2 ... k-to-india
“I have known Sergio Gor for many years from his time in the US Senate, and now working with him daily in the White House. I am confident he will make an exceptional Ambassador,” Secretary of State Marco Rubio said in a statement.

David Warrington, White House counsel, confirmed to Semafor that “Mr. Gor is fully compliant with all applicable ethical and legal obligations,” adding: “His SF-86 form has been completed, and his security clearance is active; any insinuation otherwise would be completely false.”

And whatever Gor’s missing in the realm of formal foreign relations chops, he appears to make up for in a crucial ambassadorial attribute, clout with the president — not to mention the Republican senators who will run his confirmation.


India is excited at the idea of garnering an ambassador with a direct line to Trump, according to a person familiar with the nation’s political ecosystem. This person said Gor’s position inside the administration is seen as bringing “a set of relationships into play” in the administration, starting with Trump.

“The president is supremely most important, so anybody who is in his innermost circle, has walk-in privileges, can access him anytime, naturally, would make him a special person in that respect on the Indian side,” the person said, suggesting that Gor gives India the opportunity to “progress to the next level” in a relationship with the US that’s been “quite stretched out in terms of its variables, in terms of the areas of cooperation.”

Multiple people interviewed about Gor said that he’s long wanted a role like the ambassadorship to India, and that his move comes after he’s handled a huge hiring burden for the administration.
any guesses as to why? we have started exporting our street food to the us long back iirc, he can always stuff his face like the other usual run-off-the-mill diplomats, with eateries back home if he wishes, why travel all the way over here?
Even so, the traditional experience factor still worries some people tracking his confirmation — as does the fact that Gor has also been tapped as special envoy in the region, a portfolio that will mirror the countries included in the State Department’s bureau.

Jawed Ashraf, who previously served as Indian ambassador to France and High Commissioner of India to Singapore, told Semafor it’s an “unusual” arrangement that “is also a source of concern.”

“Much will depend on whether the goals of the two governments are aligned, what his instructions are, how he defines his mission and how open, patient and sensitive he is in understanding India,” Ashraf said. “If his mission is more on his Special Envoy role and less on the deepening of India-US ties, then he will probably not be as successful as some of his predecessors have been.”

separate special envoy title that “implies that he would focus attention on trying to mediate India-Pakistan issues.”

For the time being, as Semafor has reported, Gor will stay in his personnel role and work alongside Dan Scavino, the White House deputy chief of staff picked to replace him. It’s not clear when Gor might start assuming the duties of the second post Trump gave him, the non-confirmed role of special envoy for south and central Asia.

And his confirmation timeline remains unclear: The person close to the situation suggested Gor may not come before the committee until spring 2026 — a timeline that matches up with the lengthy wait for confirmation that many ambassadorial picks are seeing.
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I think the yanks have been thoroughly outmanoeuvred here .

Unfortunately India doesn't yet have a psy ops division to be able to exploit Yankee fault lines . That shouldn't be difficult at all . Former deep state insiders like Jake Sullivan are openly talking about trump pakee crypto link . I think we (volunteers on social media or Indian deep state if they are reading this ) should focus on an insidious social media campaign within the US . There are many fault lines . Farmers are pissed . So are small businesses that are affected by tarriffs . A farmer in deep rural Missouri told his Republican senator to get his head out of Trump's mush and come back to reality. Just as they are doing baniya brahmin , we should give it back to them .
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KL Dubey wrote: 02 Sep 2025 17:11
uddu wrote: 02 Sep 2025 15:46 There is 0 ignorance. These are deliberate acts. Few days ago, He published photo of Namo in HIndu attire meditating. Not to forget the various troubles they are fermenting in India with their 0.5 front. Agitation in MH to Dussehra festivals being targeted.

If these were calculated to rile up Indians, its working. I suggested to not get fixated on this here. A look at X posts shows literally hundreds of anti Hindu slurs day in and day out. We should take note but not get riled up at every turn. Ron Vara's days as advisor are numbered. Let him and his boss wallow (literally) in their own excrement.
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Meanwhile: Some reactions from US: eg From Governor of California.. (showing a clip of Modi/Putin/Xi at SCO.. laughing and talking to each other with the caption..
..But have no fear, Trump is sending the Guard to Chicago.
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^^What is the point? The US is like India. Chaotic argumentative with an unforgiving political life.

I have not seen such loathing for any US administration as currently.


What do Indians hope to add?
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^ add chaos like they try to to ours . Do unto others as they do to u bla bla
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Manish_P wrote: 02 Sep 2025 18:23
KL Dubey wrote: 02 Sep 2025 17:11... A look at X posts shows literally hundreds of anti Hindu slurs day in and day out. We should take note but not get riled up at every turn....
Take note for what?
For what it is worth.
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Things become interesting when a scientist (Fellow of Royal Society, well known both in US and India) who generally do not get in politics..shares a picture in his social Media.

>>Ignorant Peter Navarro made America such a big joke yesterday.. media is filled with memes mocking Trump's team...
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Another Indian-American billionaire tweets:
I did not vote for Trump but this is only about his ego and wanting Modi to nominate him for the Nobel Peace prize (which Pakistan has). If he ever wins the Nobel, I will stop caring about who wins the Nobel. It will be desecrated, dirtbag medal!
While another writes an Op-ed in NYT:
Trump has dismantled, almost overnight, Modi’s meticulously crafted image as a globally venerated statesman—something the Indian political opposition has been unable to do for 11 years"
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/31/opin ... india.html

(Note: I think, Like most content from the NYT, this article too does no do justice to the complete truth..but it is good to notice that some waking up is happening)
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KL Dubey wrote: 02 Sep 2025 20:03
Manish_P wrote: 02 Sep 2025 18:23

Take note for what?
For what it is worth.
Oh, that. That is done and repayment. Is going on.
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Manish_P wrote: 02 Sep 2025 18:23
KL Dubey wrote: 02 Sep 2025 17:11... A look at X posts shows literally hundreds of anti Hindu slurs day in and day out. We should take note but not get riled up at every turn....
Take note for what?
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A_Gupta wrote: 02 Sep 2025 21:53
Manish_P wrote: 02 Sep 2025 18:23

Take note for what?
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