KL Dubey wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 04:26
While people like Navarro have very little idea of what they are talking about, we shouldn't fixate too much on the "brahmin" appellation. In USA "brahmin" is often used to denote "elite" in general, and not the actual caste/jati/varna that is meant in Bharat.
This is the exact same argument given by Pagalika Goose and her hubby. Also another fool of an ass INC piddi did the same. This is mind boggling coming from a supposedly self-avowed BJP supporter, scientist/technologist par excellence, and an intellectual to boot.
Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Posted: 02 Sep 2025 06:02
by Vayutuvan
pravula wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 04:34
Boston Brahmins. Still a dig on Hindus
100%.
Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Posted: 02 Sep 2025 06:44
by A_Gupta
Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Posted: 02 Sep 2025 06:51
by A_Gupta
pravula wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 04:34
Boston Brahmins. Still a dig on Hindus
An American elite that abstains from meat and alcohol cannot exist.
(Yes, I know the old prohibitions are largely broken today. But then, the elite status derived from a discipline of which these were a minor part.)
"Trump has thrown the relationship with India away. Germany or Japan will look at India and say that could be us tomorrow. America’s friends will think that they can’t rely on us in any way”.
Well.. In an interview with the South China Morning Post published on August 27, 2025, Tao was asked, "Will you leave US for China?" He replied, "It depends," highlighting the uncertainty surrounding the current research funding environment. Tao elaborated that the situation is "very fluid and unstable right now—far more than it has been at any previous point in the last 30 years. ‘Will you leave US for China?’ It depends, mathematician Terence Tao says
My take - Terence Tao is regarded as one of the greatest living mathematicians, sometimes called the “Mozart of Math.” Given his stature, many countries and leading universities would very likely welcome him enthusiastically if he chose to relocate.
China - Already making overtures, offering stable funding and prestige appointments.
Australia - His home country would be proud to have him back, if he ever wanted to return.
India: Top institutions would surely extend invitations, both for prestige and to inspire young researchers.
Europe (e.g., Cambridge, Oxford, ETH Zürich, Max Planck): Well-funded and research-oriented, they’d be keen to host him.
Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Posted: 02 Sep 2025 08:58
by Amber G.
Meanwhile :Indian Army contingent has reached Fort Wainwright, Alaska USA for the 21st edition of Yudh Abhyas 2025 (01 – 14 Sept).
@SirJambavan Americans treated him far worse even before he became PM. He didn't care for his ego and built bridges. And the US burned those bridges now.
Unfortunately for you, Laura, we don't live on just yesterday's news. We remember.
Laura Ingraham
@IngrahamAngle
It’s insane that Modi apparently thinks this sort of thing will make the Americans treat him better.
“Brahmins profiteering at the expense of the Indian people,” says @RealPNavarro.
Clearly some desi on Team Trump has told him “Sir, the racist shit didn’t really land, let’s try caste.”
Attack Dog-in-Chief’s latest right ahead of Modi-Putin meet.
I think GOI has to respond to this. Navarro has crossed all lines.
Sir he is chanjai Rahut for Trump; we can ignore him and not give any importance
Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Posted: 02 Sep 2025 15:13
by Cyrano
This is a racist + casteist slur. It may have come from Navarro's ignorance but there is no need to defend his malicious intent saying Boston variety etc. Especially here on BRF.
Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Posted: 02 Sep 2025 15:46
by uddu
There is 0 ignorance. These are deliberate acts. Few days ago, He published photo of Namo in HIndu attire meditating. Not to forget the various troubles they are fermenting in India with their 0.5 front. Agitation in MH to Dussehra festivals being targeted.
uddu wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 15:46
There is 0 ignorance. These are deliberate acts. Few days ago, He published photo of Namo in HIndu attire meditating. Not to forget the various troubles they are fermenting in India with their 0.5 front. Agitation in MH to Dussehra festivals being targeted.
If these were calculated to rile up Indians, its working. I suggested to not get fixated on this here. A look at X posts shows literally hundreds of anti Hindu slurs day in and day out. We should take note but not get riled up at every turn. Ron Vara's days as advisor are numbered. Let him and his boss wallow (literally) in their own excrement.
KL Dubey wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 17:11... A look at X posts shows literally hundreds of anti Hindu slurs day in and day out. We should take note but not get riled up at every turn....
Take note for what?
Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Posted: 02 Sep 2025 18:47
by KL Dubey
uddu wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 17:40
The objective is not to rile up Indians. Create division within Indian society and give ammunition to the opposition. Indians gave it back to Peter with wits literally in Social media and forcing his deputies in India to come and defend Uncle Sam.
“I have known Sergio Gor for many years from his time in the US Senate, and now working with him daily in the White House. I am confident he will make an exceptional Ambassador,” Secretary of State Marco Rubio said in a statement.
David Warrington, White House counsel, confirmed to Semafor that “Mr. Gor is fully compliant with all applicable ethical and legal obligations,” adding: “His SF-86 form has been completed, and his security clearance is active; any insinuation otherwise would be completely false.”
And whatever Gor’s missing in the realm of formal foreign relations chops, he appears to make up for in a crucial ambassadorial attribute, clout with the president — not to mention the Republican senators who will run his confirmation.
India is excited at the idea of garnering an ambassador with a direct line to Trump, according to a person familiar with the nation’s political ecosystem. This person said Gor’s position inside the administration is seen as bringing “a set of relationships into play” in the administration, starting with Trump.
“The president is supremely most important, so anybody who is in his innermost circle, has walk-in privileges, can access him anytime, naturally, would make him a special person in that respect on the Indian side,” the person said, suggesting that Gor gives India the opportunity to “progress to the next level” in a relationship with the US that’s been “quite stretched out in terms of its variables, in terms of the areas of cooperation.”
Multiple people interviewed about Gor said that he’s long wanted a role like the ambassadorship to India, and that his move comes after he’s handled a huge hiring burden for the administration.
any guesses as to why? we have started exporting our street food to the us long back iirc, he can always stuff his face like the other usual run-off-the-mill diplomats, with eateries back home if he wishes, why travel all the way over here?
Even so, the traditional experience factor still worries some people tracking his confirmation — as does the fact that Gor has also been tapped as special envoy in the region, a portfolio that will mirror the countries included in the State Department’s bureau.
Jawed Ashraf, who previously served as Indian ambassador to France and High Commissioner of India to Singapore, told Semafor it’s an “unusual” arrangement that “is also a source of concern.”
“Much will depend on whether the goals of the two governments are aligned, what his instructions are, how he defines his mission and how open, patient and sensitive he is in understanding India,” Ashraf said. “If his mission is more on his Special Envoy role and less on the deepening of India-US ties, then he will probably not be as successful as some of his predecessors have been.”
separate special envoy title that “implies that he would focus attention on trying to mediate India-Pakistan issues.”
For the time being, as Semafor has reported, Gor will stay in his personnel role and work alongside Dan Scavino, the White House deputy chief of staff picked to replace him. It’s not clear when Gor might start assuming the duties of the second post Trump gave him, the non-confirmed role of special envoy for south and central Asia.
And his confirmation timeline remains unclear: The person close to the situation suggested Gor may not come before the committee until spring 2026 — a timeline that matches up with the lengthy wait for confirmation that many ambassadorial picks are seeing.
Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Posted: 02 Sep 2025 19:14
by gakakkad
I think the yanks have been thoroughly outmanoeuvred here .
Unfortunately India doesn't yet have a psy ops division to be able to exploit Yankee fault lines . That shouldn't be difficult at all . Former deep state insiders like Jake Sullivan are openly talking about trump pakee crypto link . I think we (volunteers on social media or Indian deep state if they are reading this ) should focus on an insidious social media campaign within the US . There are many fault lines . Farmers are pissed . So are small businesses that are affected by tarriffs . A farmer in deep rural Missouri told his Republican senator to get his head out of Trump's mush and come back to reality. Just as they are doing baniya brahmin , we should give it back to them .
uddu wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 15:46
There is 0 ignorance. These are deliberate acts. Few days ago, He published photo of Namo in HIndu attire meditating. Not to forget the various troubles they are fermenting in India with their 0.5 front. Agitation in MH to Dussehra festivals being targeted.
If these were calculated to rile up Indians, its working. I suggested to not get fixated on this here. A look at X posts shows literally hundreds of anti Hindu slurs day in and day out. We should take note but not get riled up at every turn. Ron Vara's days as advisor are numbered. Let him and his boss wallow (literally) in their own excrement.
KL Dubey wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 17:11... A look at X posts shows literally hundreds of anti Hindu slurs day in and day out. We should take note but not get riled up at every turn....
Take note for what?
For what it is worth.
Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Posted: 02 Sep 2025 20:52
by Amber G.
Things become interesting when a scientist (Fellow of Royal Society, well known both in US and India) who generally do not get in politics..shares a picture in his social Media.
>>Ignorant Peter Navarro made America such a big joke yesterday.. media is filled with memes mocking Trump's team...
Another Indian-American billionaire tweets:
I did not vote for Trump but this is only about his ego and wanting Modi to nominate him for the Nobel Peace prize (which Pakistan has). If he ever wins the Nobel, I will stop caring about who wins the Nobel. It will be desecrated, dirtbag medal!
While another writes an Op-ed in NYT: Trump has dismantled, almost overnight, Modi’s meticulously crafted image as a globally venerated statesman—something the Indian political opposition has been unable to do for 11 years" https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/31/opin ... india.html
(Note: I think, Like most content from the NYT, this article too does no do justice to the complete truth..but it is good to notice that some waking up is happening)
KL Dubey wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 17:11... A look at X posts shows literally hundreds of anti Hindu slurs day in and day out. We should take note but not get riled up at every turn....
Take note for what?
To make devastating replies with unfailing grace and good humor .
To make devastating replies with unfailing grace and good humor .
Going on at all levels... Aam janata with X to asaadhaaran Sarkaar with Xi
Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Posted: 02 Sep 2025 23:01
by Amber G.
Meanwhile, this is from one of the influential American person:
What if an Indian trade negotiator said:
“I want Americans to understand what is going on. Jews are profiteering by buying Russian oil at the expense of the American people.”
That’s how Indians heard this @RealPNavarro—as a slur.
Same dangerous, conspiratorial, stereotypical, false villainization of a people.
Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Posted: 02 Sep 2025 23:08
by chetak
uddu wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 15:46
There is 0 ignorance. These are deliberate acts. Few days ago, He published photo of Namo in HIndu attire meditating. Not to forget the various troubles they are fermenting in India with their 0.5 front. Agitation in MH to Dussehra festivals being targeted.
uddu saar,
dusshera is a side show. It is being used to divert attention from this major anti Hindu BIF effort (see video)
Dharmasthala Conspiracy Funded By International Players? Temple Trust Head Decodes The Real Story
the guy behind the scene in the Dharmasthala conspiracy, is an ex IAS dravidian babooze and a congi MP from TN, who has now got himself admitted in a chennai hospital, to escape arrest. There is panic in the dravidian ranks, starting with the ruling parteeeee
Since foreign money is involved, the KAR govt is refusing to hand over the case to the NIA, very much fearing what will be unearthed
there is are serious regime change plays in progress.
multiple simultaneous efforts means that the BIF is getting quite desperate ..........................
dhankar and a big business man with friends in the north (name may be already out) were running a variation of this game and dhankar and pals were trying to rope in two CMs supporting the govt, before khujliwal spilled the beans, and in return, asking for leniency in his cases
The entire vote chori game is another sideshow in play and navaro's "brahmins are profiting" shows that the BIF is getting desperate.
the amrikis are surely behind this, and they tried to break Modi ji's (and also India's) economic back by using tariffs under the excuse of russki oil but Modi ji's moves proved too quick for them
Modi ji held both his tongue and his nerve, leaving the amrikis flat footed and confused. Not taking trump's 4 phone calls was a masterpiece in 3D chess.
with the world watching, the amrikis turned abusive, and that worsened their already weak game by showing the world the true face of a bully
trump is still insisting that EU sanction India for the russki oil, but the euro trash have balked, what with france , germany and the britshits in serious financial trouble, and and almost all of the EU under active recession, or many who may be going under very soon
Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
Posted: 03 Sep 2025 00:20
by gakakkad
Amber G. wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025 23:01
Meanwhile, this is from one of the influential American person:
What if an Indian trade negotiator said:
“I want Americans to understand what is going on. Jews are profiteering by buying Russian oil at the expense of the American people.”
That’s how Indians heard this @RealPNavarro—as a slur.
Same dangerous, conspiratorial, stereotypical, false villainization of a people.
While that is a fair analogy a lot of MAGA actually believe in all the anti-Semitic conspiracy theory . They same ilk also peddle racist Bs against hindus . Like mtg , Fuentes ,posobiec , cernovich etc
..Piyush Goyal on September 2 expressed confidence that a bilateral trade deal between India and the US could be concluded by fall or November this year.
Goyal said trade talks between the two countries were overshadowed by a "little bit" of geopolitical issues but they will be back on track soon..
"I do hope that things will get back on track soon and we will conclude a bilateral trade agreement by the fall, November or so, as was discussed by our two leaders in February,"
.....t the world is excited to expand trade and business ties with New Delhi.
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for delay