India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

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https://x.com/MrSinha_/status/1963996548007973073
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"I am not asking you to comment on Trump’s latest post about India, Russia, and China. I’m just asking whether India, as a return gesture, would wish Trump and his friend Pakistan a long & disastrous future together."😂

Absolutely brilliant...Rare among journalists these days.
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uddu wrote: 06 Sep 2025 20:29 This is not an era when few elite Media control narrative. People drive it today.
Jai Shri Ram to that.

On a lighter note India should say sorry like this (A short Tamil comedy clip).
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bCceHenJTog
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For us where Trump stands (Trump's stunts honoring a terrorist)- This for WSJ:
Trump family just made Billions of Dollars from his Crypto deals. (wih Pak)
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SandeepA wrote: 06 Sep 2025 20:23 just curious what the forum thinks of JD's role in all this fiasco.
I think he is biden/biding his time :) .. occasionally he is called forth to check loyalty to orangeutan..so tweets follow. I feel he hasn't lost sanity ..yet ! ..the wh is now a ,,£hit show with officials strictly told to leave sanity and reasoning at the door , the show being run by orangeutans set of "advisors" ,a motly club including a former jail bird who is shouting from roof tops about brahmins , a nut lick who is adept at cronyism, a bunch of crypto investors, a new age economist

Can't think of a better team to tank American economy
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In NK they clap continuously. In U.S Supreme leader is glorified with words.
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xpost: - Along with Pakistan, India exposed Trump's MAGA America during Operation Sindoor.

Connect the dots:

• Operation Sindoor crippled Pakistan.
• Trump hijacked the ceasefire story, calling it his trade deal.
• Munir dines at the White House, offers Trump Nobel chatter.
• Mysterious C-17 flights in & out of Rahim Yar Khan.
• Trump’s failed push to parade Modi & Munir together in Washington.

For many (in public - many ) a theatre.. but in reality it was a shameless and dangerous collusion.

Trump’s frustration began.:-
-No grand photo-op, exposed by India’s hard power) Trump turned bitter...started making silly laughable claims (which his fans believe):

- Accusing India of funding Russia’s Ukraine war.
- Claiming India buys “hundreds of billions” worth of Russian crude oil.
All Lies!

Along with Pakistan, India exposed Trump during Operation Sindoor. India showed Pakistan’s nuclear bluff was hollow...And Trump... showing his true nature chose to side with Pakistan.
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drnayar wrote: 06 Sep 2025 21:32
I think he is biden/biding his time :) .. occasionally he is called forth to check loyalty to orangeutan..so tweets follow. I feel he hasn't lost sanity ..yet ! ..the wh is now a ,,£hit show with officials strictly told to leave sanity and reasoning at the door , the show being run by orangeutans set of "advisors" ,a motly club including a former jail bird who is shouting from roof tops about brahmins , a nut lick who is adept at cronyism, a bunch of crypto investors, a new age economist

Can't think of a better team to tank American economy
You forgot the chap that has a brain worm who looks like Edgar the farmer from Men in Black and is in charge of deciding the health policy for Americans….
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Speaking of tariffs and the great economic imbalances, the duopoly is thriving
Amazon India's main marketplace entity reported an operating revenue of ₹25,406 crore in the fiscal year ending March 2024 (FY24), a 14% increase from FY23

Walmart owned Flipkart India Private Limited reported a revenue of ₹70,800 crore (approximately $8.3 billion) for the financial year ending March 31, 2024. This represents a significant 26% growth in revenue compared to the previous year.
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Amber G. wrote: 06 Sep 2025 21:40 xpost: - Along with Pakistan, India exposed Trump's MAGA America during Operation Sindoor.

- Accusing India of funding Russia’s Ukraine war.
- Claiming India buys “hundreds of billions” worth of Russian crude oil.
All Lies!
This is similar to the narrative building done by Bush Jr. and Colin Powell of Iraq having WMD. Parade a bunch of lies to make it seem like the truth and rally all the 'coalition of the willing' (i.e. Global West/ NATO) to join the tirade to do their dirty works.
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GoI had earlier displayed lack of sensitivity for students traveling to Canada. The ex-High Commissioner (get rid of this stupid Commonwealth lingo) Sanjay Kumar Verma, after being asked to leave Canada, had told PTI, “At one point of time in my tenure, at least two bodies of students were being sent to India in body bags per week. Rather than face their parents after failure, they were committing suicide".

This was an incredible admission of gross incompetence. Was it not the responsibility of the MEA to inform students about this earlier and formally? How could the lives of Indian students be sacrificed at the altar of diplomacy? At least some lives could have been saved. And probably 1000s of others who survived but entire generations are under debt.

Similar story appears to be developing for the US.

GoI cannot prevent students from traveling but at least make it harder by offering loans from public banks only to the Tier 1 / 2 colleges and educate about the visa uncertainty.
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The suicide rate in the college age range is around 6-10/100k per year . If there are are 500k Indian students in North America , the statistically expected numbers are 30-50 suicides a year or almost 1 a week . Is there evidence to suggest the rate is higher ? What should GOI do here ?
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skumar wrote: 07 Sep 2025 06:16 GoI had earlier displayed lack of sensitivity for students traveling to Canada. The ex-High Commissioner (get rid of this stupid Commonwealth lingo) Sanjay Kumar Verma, after being asked to leave Canada, had told PTI, “At one point of time in my tenure, at least two bodies of students were being sent to India in body bags per week. Rather than face their parents after failure, they were committing suicide".

This was an incredible admission of gross incompetence. Was it not the responsibility of the MEA to inform students about this earlier and formally? How could the lives of Indian students be sacrificed at the altar of diplomacy? At least some lives could have been saved. And probably 1000s of others who survived but entire generations are under debt.

Similar story appears to be developing for the US.

GoI cannot prevent students from traveling but at least make it harder by offering loans from public banks only to the Tier 1 / 2 colleges and educate about the visa uncertainty.
This is such a short sighted take. Do you want government to dictate every part of your and your family life? I mean someone who is an adult and who had 17 years of formal education, who has their family support, should be competent enough to make their own life calls and if they are not in a position to make a positive judgment call about their life, what do you want the government to step in and do? Where is their family and what are they doing in not supporting their children and putting tremendous pressure on then compelling them to take this drastic measure? By this same logic, should we demand the government to force parents to take a test, and prove their competency before letting them get married?

This logic of putting every problem at the altar of government does no one any good. Somethings come under personal responsibility, some under societal, and some under government. For every 2 students that cannot make it, there are a few dozen more that use these loans to crawl their way into middle class and there are at least a few more who do it even well. It is not all MEA's responsibility to guide day to day decisions of a student in a foreign land.
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1) About Narangi bandar a few points to note
personally a repulsive figure. bad role model for any kid- Dont want any kid to folow this person or get stupid ideas .
But for the duniya it is good .
Better than waging wars and killing people done by other POTUSes.

2) uncle recent elections
why this bandar got elected as a POTUS with high seats and popular vote is important to note.
He won by default because of excesses of democrats rule. Make no mistake it was a vote against democrats. Their current entire ecosystem stinks honestly.

For americans , it was between devil of orange bandar vs deep sea of democrats ecosystem.
Interestingly orange bandar is a slimy criminal conman and democrat all his life and a unique specimen at that :rotfl: .
He conquered the magadiots space and became their leader is a story in itself showing the bankruptcy of its elephant party leadership.
Devil vs deep sea concept at least wrt POTUS. (current situation orange bandar is the devil and deep sea is the democrat ecosystem which has deteriorated to the current bad stuff)

devil stays for 4 years and moves on. There is a time limit hence can adjust and play along.
Hence preferred all the time!!.(as non american)

Deep sea is the entire ecosystem which is bad. This system is hard to beat as it is the ecosystem and not individual which is finite. Devil is relatively short lived compared to the ecosytem which is more brutal and ruthless in its pursuit of goals.


3) POTUS concept

POTUS concept in uncle sam land is a mixture of royalty and common man having that previlege for 4 years under democrazy rule. Recall in those times of independence - every country had kings when uncle had democrazy. They devised this system of both royalty with common men(yes only white men) voting their "royalty" as POTUS.
Due to this king like stuff- POTUS was vested with extra ordinary powers. More than any other country leaders. They threw in congress, judciary etc to make sure the POTUS dont run away with all the powers. Time to time the POTUS powers were steadily curbed as some tried to over use them. Orange bandar is no exception.
One cant blame him as many potuses have done this before him- trying to use more powers and unnecessarily for all flimsy reasons.


4) POTUS power and prestige


POTUS is the most powerful position because of the superpower status. Every POTUS brings their own style and pomp to the authority of the POTUS powers. Orange bandar is weakening its prestige and influence temporarily. Every POTUS leave their imprint after they leave the office. sona bandar will leave his comedies memes and laugh riots :mrgreen: :lol:

POTUS as a whole is slowly losing its sheen due to its own follies irrespective of the party affliations. ortange bandar has added his stupidity to it. Thanks to democrats folly he became the POTUS. pretty stunning indeed. Americans had no choice in this. Best of the 2 evils in the scenario.

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5) Other countries - Deep state operatives

All the POTUses since Eisenwhower - irrespective of party were heavily involved in destabilisng countries in every region of the world. India was no exception. terroristan was actively courted in this regard.
India was actively stymied/deneid /stopped where possible in all forms direct and indirect.

Many uncle-rakshaks forget the disaster of prior potuses etc - khalistan support, attacks on Indians by various actors and agencies along with their media. NGOS wreaking havoc inside India. proxy wars inside India and surrounding regions . FONOPS in seas, LGBTQ.... (respect is good but overdoing it hurting others is a strict NO) hooomain rights, women rights etc etc .mainority support , damage SDRE yindoos , employ brown sepoys on other SDREs etc etc .

( the above are the deep state actors who operate in background irrespective of the POTUSes. In any organisation as in a big grocery store, pharma company or hopsital etc etc , many committes are present with many experienced and knowledge people in these. they drive the company along with whoever the CEO is . The CEO will try to bring their own peronsality and ideas into it. Some make great impact some are ok whereas some are duds. Here the people in various committes dept are the deep state folks who run the big organisation irrespective of the CEOs )

6) why I prefer sona bandar as POTUS with his rank stupidity

WRT Bharat and other countries - better to have trade wars- countries have a choice and make sure their do everything to safe guard their interests. Trade wars take time and wont kill as in say wars like in iraq,libya, syria, afghanisthan ukraine bangaldesh terrositan etc etc .
Trade wars trigger different types of reactions- far better than indirect proxy wars.
BRICS and many other regional groupinsg etc get better and many other countries cooperate well.

As a POTUS, sona bandar destroyed the USAID and many other important agencies. He removed all experienced operatives with their deep institutional knowldege on other countries. To regain all these depts and experienced personnel will take years as experience lost is not easy to regain.

Todays world- trade wars looks stupid in this age. Orange bandar is late by 3 decades (1980s-2000s) when uncle sam was its zenith of powers when it could have done anything and what it wanted. At the same time get away with these.

Heck I prefer sona bandar all the time with his stupid trade wars.

( looking at country level not at individual level. For american tough choice- but only 4 years)
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About nobull prize itch of sona bandar.

He was pally with democrats at one time. He was close to many big wigs in democrats party. Something trigggered and he started to wage war against them . He seems to want everything what obummer has done.!!

Obummer won 2 elections- sona bandar wants 2 elections.
obbummer won nobull prizxe without doing anything . He won by deceit - clever talk about bribging peace etc in election time- won in first year of potus office- very extraordinary--- then bumbed the entire muddle east piecefully :roll:
(estimates of over 35 million diplsaced both internallya nd externally- numbers can vary as not correct counts exits)

sona bandar wants to ace him again here also by deceit in winning it. :(( :((

who knows orange bandar may even win nobull prize . :rotfl:
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krisna wrote: 07 Sep 2025 07:25 Something trigggered and he started to wage war against them . He seems to want everything what obummer has done.!!
suvarna kapi got roasted (rather trolled) by B Hossain O at a WHOTUS roast. It was uncalled for and unbecoming of a POTUS, especially one who got a NoBull for doing bull. Typical al Haaavahdi, son of a Kenyan bigamist Patrice Lumumba University doctorate. :twisted: An Electron tried to collide with a Positron. :rotfl:
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^ it appears to be a very low energy collision . All it produced was photons (charge being conserved of course) . ie all optics onlees.
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RCase wrote: 07 Sep 2025 00:26 This is similar to the narrative building done by Bush Jr. and Colin Powell of Iraq having WMD. Parade a bunch of lies to make it seem like the truth and rally all the 'coalition of the willing' (i.e. Global West/ NATO) to join the tirade to do their dirty works.
The US will need a firewall of democracy akin to the great firewall to pull something like this wrt India :wink:
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https://x.com/MrSinha_/status/1964529016284860689
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Truth hurts.... 😂
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Soon, U.S may ban X and bring in TruthSocial :lol: Truthsocial need presence of Indians as well. Elon could get jailed for some X crime or deported to SA.
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