As said by people in Obama admin at the time. The India-US relationship is a "friends with benefits" type of deal. However the "benefits" side is gone since the Trump admin wants anal only. For that they have the Pakis.
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Not even 1 year.. six months. Bargain could mean India could delay signing the agreement and must have asked for the port sanction extension. This is just an assumption about the timing. Many more things could be agreed and bargained for by both sides.
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Not only equipment, but also real-time assistance. It is well known.
Both need each other a great deal. Just look at Asia where China wants to be the regional hegemon (which would mean annexing Taiwan, projecting power well into IOR, bullying smaller countries into further submission, hijacking ASEAN, RCEP etc). Asia's western periphery may have some American allies but they are not militarily powerful nations.
Geographically, India occupies the centre of Asia, controls IOR, is a nuclear power with powerful delivery platforms, a space-power, has one of the largest militaries, a long-standing stable democracy, has the largest population, consistently & rapidly growing economy, a reliable partner not given to impulsive & reflex decision-making, a civilizational power with a very large diaspora, a country with whom US trade is expected to reach 500B in next five years, and a country which maintains good and non-contentious relationship with almost all countries in Asia (save for two) etc.
When Shinzo Abe called India & Japan as like book-ends in Indo-Pacific, he just did not convey the geographical limits of a new entity called the Indo-Pacific, he really conveyed the idea of a sandwiched China.
Mackinder & Spykman can be re-assessed today as 'Whoever controls Asia controls the World'.
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Guys, we may be over thinking this
trump wants India to buy amriki oil and amriki weapons (and continue to do so in perpetuity and keep saying "yes massa" when ever squeezed) so that the amrikis not only maintain their lock on India but are also able to squeeze India as and when they feel the need to do so, like now, for example.
Recall that during kargil, when the IAF needed the GPS the most for their precision attacks on paki positions on the kargil peaks, the amrikis made sure that we did not have any access to that specific resource. This deliberately limited our ability to fight, and greatly degraded our command and control processes.
This is neither the first time such hostile amriki actions were used against India, and nor will it be the last.
the series of regime change attempts have been brushed under the carpet because some general has come out with his logic. Surely there would be multiple viewpoints on this matter. These attempts started with the "farmers protests" and associated events that predates this collection of crises that was triggered by the tariff toofan that this clown unleashed and is now unable to get the genie to go back into the bottle
So why was India targeted as early as 2020–2021 by the Indian farmers' protest followed by the dilli riots. That happened when trump was in India, which in turn points to complicated advance planning, secure hawala finances, working to a deadline and coordinating the mayhem in front of the global press that was part of the trump entourage that descended on India. It required jihadi, khalistani, kanadian, amriki, britshit, turkish and qatari assets and resources in the mix, plus PFI and ISIS assets operating in country. khujlis and the congis were in it up to their necks, along with commies and urban naxals
we are now discussing the bits and pieces of these sets of tactics and strategy seen separately, when the big picture is still hidden from public view and no one is talking about how this battlefield was shaped then and how it still is being shaped today
The dilli police are now submitting documents in shargil imam case for bail. For the first time in India, such documents mention "regime change"
the marshall plan freeloaders in europe have realized that there is no free lunch so they are desperately diversifying into weapons and weapon systems productions to reduce the dependence on amrika which is on a global hunt for resources and dependent markets.
The destruction of the russki oil/gas pipelines into europe was no flash in the pan but a deliberate attempt to destabilize established supply chains and replace them with preferred sources
UKR used to supply huge quantities of grain and that resource is now mostly amriki controlled, locked in by long term contracts. cheen also has lots of ukr land under lease where they produce food for themselves. The saudis have vast farm land holdings in africa and some in ukr as well.
Most of the gulf countries have "aligned" with India because they are trying to leverage "investments" for establishing supply chains grain and other agro products sourced from India which they see as a stable and dependable polity
the beedis have recently received many tens of thousands of tons of food grain from a gulf country that has huge stockpiles of grain and other agro inventories. The grain given to the beedis is Indian grain
India, on it's own, comprehensively checks most of these boxes. The battlespace is now being shaped by the BIF
Are the gelf countries trying to do with money what the amrikis are hell bent on doing to India by force
So the question remains: who gains if India becomes a new age technological colony that is also extremely resource rich with a young population and transforms into a camp follower rather than forging ahead as an independently motivated global leader and innovator, an entity that is more than capable of bring in a full spectrum development agenda that also benefits allies and partners at large (UPI being one case in point). All this and more, with no geopolitical, cultural, religious or even demographic baggage
Going forward and if trump had his way, NATO does not seem to have that a rosy future but the euros are banking on a possible fall back of using the french nuclear arsenal which they are trying to leverage into a euro centric program to partly replace their dependencies on the amrikis.
All trump is saying is that, pay your way for the amriki services you receive and the freeloading euros have all got their panties in a twist
The BIF want India completely hobbled and hogtied, otherwise their free run is in grave jeopardy.
These colonial powers precipitated two global wars in their scramble for resources.
They may all be thinking that it may be good for them to reestablish the colonial system but with a technological flavor dominating the narrative
mackinder & spykman have reached the end of the road.
These are times when countries can reach across the globe with precision targeted missiles that have a CEP of almost next to nothing.
"control" has taken on a new dimension altogether. How does one explain the geopolitical and geoeconomic muscle of, say a saudi arabia or even qatar, for instance. qatar comes with al jazeera and it's evil support for terrorist entities. Both initiatives have major elements of control built into them, with geopolitical repercussions to boot
This new age "control" is a very a modern concept that would never have occurred to mackinder or spykman because such hypotheses would have been way beyond their imagination or postulation.
These theories did not incorporate things like airpower because these guys simply did not know of such weapons or as one could say newer elements of "control" that are now routinely taken for granted.
trump wants India to buy amriki oil and amriki weapons (and continue to do so in perpetuity and keep saying "yes massa" when ever squeezed) so that the amrikis not only maintain their lock on India but are also able to squeeze India as and when they feel the need to do so, like now, for example.
Recall that during kargil, when the IAF needed the GPS the most for their precision attacks on paki positions on the kargil peaks, the amrikis made sure that we did not have any access to that specific resource. This deliberately limited our ability to fight, and greatly degraded our command and control processes.
This is neither the first time such hostile amriki actions were used against India, and nor will it be the last.
the series of regime change attempts have been brushed under the carpet because some general has come out with his logic. Surely there would be multiple viewpoints on this matter. These attempts started with the "farmers protests" and associated events that predates this collection of crises that was triggered by the tariff toofan that this clown unleashed and is now unable to get the genie to go back into the bottle
So why was India targeted as early as 2020–2021 by the Indian farmers' protest followed by the dilli riots. That happened when trump was in India, which in turn points to complicated advance planning, secure hawala finances, working to a deadline and coordinating the mayhem in front of the global press that was part of the trump entourage that descended on India. It required jihadi, khalistani, kanadian, amriki, britshit, turkish and qatari assets and resources in the mix, plus PFI and ISIS assets operating in country. khujlis and the congis were in it up to their necks, along with commies and urban naxals
we are now discussing the bits and pieces of these sets of tactics and strategy seen separately, when the big picture is still hidden from public view and no one is talking about how this battlefield was shaped then and how it still is being shaped today
The dilli police are now submitting documents in shargil imam case for bail. For the first time in India, such documents mention "regime change"
Delhi riots or "Operation regime change"
You will be shocked. Delhi Police have made a major claim by filing an affidavit in the Supreme Court The Delhi riots of 2020 were not "ordinary violence Instead, they were part of a "regime change operation."
According to police These riots are not the result of sudden inflammation rather an organized and planned political operation, which was intended Breaking the internal peace of India, and spoiling the country's image on the international stage.
Delhi Police said clearly in the affidavit The CAA protest was just an excuse, The real target was India's sovereignty and integrity.
found in the investigation "Technical, documentary and direct evidence who add to the plot by many names including Omar Khalid, Shargil Imam, Meeran Haider and Gulfisha Fatima.
And the most surprising thing The police claim it all The purpose of violence is internal peace and was to spoil the international image CAA as an anti-Muslim law was to spread unrest.
The police accuse the conspiracy of being an American president made during Donald Trump's visit to India, which aims to attract international attention and to show the country in the wrong light.
the marshall plan freeloaders in europe have realized that there is no free lunch so they are desperately diversifying into weapons and weapon systems productions to reduce the dependence on amrika which is on a global hunt for resources and dependent markets.
The destruction of the russki oil/gas pipelines into europe was no flash in the pan but a deliberate attempt to destabilize established supply chains and replace them with preferred sources
UKR used to supply huge quantities of grain and that resource is now mostly amriki controlled, locked in by long term contracts. cheen also has lots of ukr land under lease where they produce food for themselves. The saudis have vast farm land holdings in africa and some in ukr as well.
Most of the gulf countries have "aligned" with India because they are trying to leverage "investments" for establishing supply chains grain and other agro products sourced from India which they see as a stable and dependable polity
the beedis have recently received many tens of thousands of tons of food grain from a gulf country that has huge stockpiles of grain and other agro inventories. The grain given to the beedis is Indian grain
India, on it's own, comprehensively checks most of these boxes. The battlespace is now being shaped by the BIF
Are the gelf countries trying to do with money what the amrikis are hell bent on doing to India by force
So the question remains: who gains if India becomes a new age technological colony that is also extremely resource rich with a young population and transforms into a camp follower rather than forging ahead as an independently motivated global leader and innovator, an entity that is more than capable of bring in a full spectrum development agenda that also benefits allies and partners at large (UPI being one case in point). All this and more, with no geopolitical, cultural, religious or even demographic baggage
Going forward and if trump had his way, NATO does not seem to have that a rosy future but the euros are banking on a possible fall back of using the french nuclear arsenal which they are trying to leverage into a euro centric program to partly replace their dependencies on the amrikis.
All trump is saying is that, pay your way for the amriki services you receive and the freeloading euros have all got their panties in a twist
The BIF want India completely hobbled and hogtied, otherwise their free run is in grave jeopardy.
These colonial powers precipitated two global wars in their scramble for resources.
They may all be thinking that it may be good for them to reestablish the colonial system but with a technological flavor dominating the narrative
mackinder & spykman have reached the end of the road.
These are times when countries can reach across the globe with precision targeted missiles that have a CEP of almost next to nothing.
"control" has taken on a new dimension altogether. How does one explain the geopolitical and geoeconomic muscle of, say a saudi arabia or even qatar, for instance. qatar comes with al jazeera and it's evil support for terrorist entities. Both initiatives have major elements of control built into them, with geopolitical repercussions to boot
This new age "control" is a very a modern concept that would never have occurred to mackinder or spykman because such hypotheses would have been way beyond their imagination or postulation.
These theories did not incorporate things like airpower because these guys simply did not know of such weapons or as one could say newer elements of "control" that are now routinely taken for granted.
Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
US is arm twisting every country to suit it's needs and wants
It's diaspora has been squeezed
Matter of time who blinks first.
China squeezed back and America blinked
India has the highest tariffs of any country.drnayar wrote: ↑30 Oct 2025 13:24 https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-as ... y-concerns
However, a clause requiring Malaysia to align itself with the US on matters of economic restrictions or sanctions against a third country has raised alarm bells on both sides of the political divide, with critics warning that it may threaten the country’s independence and longstanding neutrality stance.
It's diaspora has been squeezed
Matter of time who blinks first.
China squeezed back and America blinked
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US pushes for wider global dollar adoption
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