Bharat Rakshak

chetak wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025 21:58 how does a non Indian citizen even approach an Indian court on a visa matter


will such a move by any foreigner be entertained by a US or a UK court


The BIF is behind this move



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to nitpick .. what jurisdiction does an Indian court have for a foreign citizen claiming rights ?!!

Looks like the complaint is before the court because it is about OCI status. Once someone acquires OCI status, it comes with all rights available to citizens except for those proscribed in CAA 2003.

The judge asks if a visa may be granted instead, but there's no information if a visa was applied for and denied after the OCI registration was cancelled.

Sir ji, I will remove this post after I get my info. There is no appropriate thread. Does anyone know the exact time of congress hq inauguration?

chetak wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025 21:58 how does a non Indian citizen even approach an Indian court on a visa matter


will such a move by any foreigner be entertained by a US or a UK court


The BIF is behind this move

Article 21 of the Indian Constitution uses the expressions "No person", "right to be liberty" shall be denied "without due process of law". From my limited understanding of the law the expression "due process" has been extended to the right of travel as a manifestation of "liberty". It could quite conceivable be extended to "right of entry into India". And of course the expression "person " has been established as to mean "non-citizens" as well.

He is not an Indian citizen. OCI is a privilege and not a right. He is a Swedish citizen who renounced Indian Citizenship. OCI card can be revoked if anybody indulges in unpatriotic act. This guy clearly is a Paki pasand India baiter who indulges in gratuitous anti-India propaganda. So home ministry has determined to revoke his OCI. He can waste his money and Courts can waste their time how much ever they want. This is the one time, I am very happy with our snail pace judiciary with all its red tape bureaucracy. Let due process of the law take its own due process of time

On Swain, he has enough activities on his record that will deny entry to any foreign national. Stripping him of OCI is the bare minimum, he should be denied visa on grounds of national security. Here is one of his recent attempts at encouraging communal unrest in India. This is just a day or two old, after he raised his case in the court.

https://x.com/Incognito_qfs/status/1880189591644504490

Follow due process that the person is entitled to. Does not mean a favorable outcome is guaranteed just that another look is taken at the issue.

Court may also ask why the foreign country has not been petitioned to grant citizenship or visa to the mother on compassionate grounds. Not particularly up to India to resolve someone personal situation.

ernest wrote: ↑17 Jan 2025 19:46 On Swain, he has enough activities on his record that will deny entry to any foreign national. Stripping him of OCI is the bare minimum, he should be denied visa on grounds of national security. Here is one of his recent attempts at encouraging communal unrest in India. This is just a day or two old, after he raised his case in the court.

https://x.com/Incognito_qfs/status/1880189591644504490

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Get him on the no-fly list next., no transit through India either !

vera_k wrote: ↑18 Jan 2025 00:40 Follow due process that the person is entitled to. Does not mean a favorable outcome is guaranteed just that another look is taken at the issue.

Court may also ask why the foreign country has not been petitioned to grant citizenship or visa to the mother on compassionate grounds. Not particularly up to India to resolve someone personal situation.

Visas to foreigners need to be strictly off limits for the courts. Why is the judge entertaining this? This is exclusively the preserve of the executive. Judiciary has no say. Tomorrow, every foreigner denied a visa will file a petition in Indian courts.

drnayar wrote: ↑18 Jan 2025 19:17

ernest wrote: ↑17 Jan 2025 19:46 On Swain, he has enough activities on his record that will deny entry to any foreign national. Stripping him of OCI is the bare minimum, he should be denied visa on grounds of national security. Here is one of his recent attempts at encouraging communal unrest in India. This is just a day or two old, after he raised his case in the court.

https://x.com/Incognito_qfs/status/1880189591644504490

Get him on the no-fly list next., no transit through India either !

Why not allow him to come to India and promptly arrest him on arrival. Throw him in jail for a few days with mirchi treatment. He will automatically put himself on the no-fly list.

RCase wrote: ↑18 Jan 2025 23:27

drnayar wrote: ↑18 Jan 2025 19:17

Get him on the no-fly list next., no transit through India either !

Why not allow him to come to India and promptly arrest him on arrival. Throw him in jail for a few days with mirchi treatment. He will automatically put himself on the no-fly list.

RCase ji,



The only recourse that he has, like anyone else in the world, is to apply for an Indian visa through official channels

The GoI is entirely justified in denying the visa without assigning any reason, if it decides to do so

there is no time bound process for this, the GoI can takes its own sweet time

Arrest is what he wants because it will make him a cause célèbre. The guys who are backing him also want such an outcome so that they can go after the "Hindutwa govt"

RCase wrote: ↑18 Jan 2025 23:27

drnayar wrote: ↑18 Jan 2025 19:17

Get him on the no-fly list next., no transit through India either !

Why not allow him to come to India and promptly arrest him on arrival. Throw him in jail for a few days with mirchi treatment. He will automatically put himself on the no-fly list.

.. indeed better

another option - do nothing. do not give visa. neither reject the visa. just keep pending for years. on inquiry just ask for more documents.
or file some private cases, and keep them pending for years (typical Indian judiciary). link the visa approval to these cases.

A Deshmukh wrote: ↑19 Jan 2025 08:46 another option - do nothing. do not give visa. neither reject the visa. just keep pending for years. on inquiry just ask for more documents.
or file some private cases, and keep them pending for years (typical Indian judiciary). link the visa approval to these cases.

A Deshmukh ji,


This is a test case to see if the judiciary bites

If they entertain the case, then a precedent is set which they will try and exploit, especially the khalistanis

the BIF had earlier tried with tavleen singh's dual voltage paki bred "son", and failed miserably despite the "civil society" pushing her case through the entrenched (since before 1947) colonially biased Indian deep state, but this time the BIF are going the "judiciary" route

my two paise

Once a person is arrested, he can go to court and get bail. It is easier for them to approach court if they are arrested. It is better to not give visa at all, and drag out the case and claim executive jurisdiction over OCI/visa issual, than issuing one

putnanja wrote: ↑19 Jan 2025 17:37 Once a person is arrested, he can go to court and get bail. It is easier for them to approach court if they are arrested. It is better to not give visa at all, and drag out the case and claim executive jurisdiction over OCI/visa issual, than issuing one

Don't have to arrest. Just detain him at border control for an extended interrogation period with the immigration guys taking their chai samosa breaks. Finally put him back on a flight back to his homeland. No court, no katcheri. It will hit him in the pocket book.

I remember way back in the 80's transiting through Malaysia was a horrible experience for Indians. For US citizens, they would provide visa on arrival immediately. For Indians, they would make you sit and wait and the immigration guys would go for their smoke and chai breaks without processing the routine transit visa for a long time.

Meanwhile : In Washington DC Today:

both these stories got clouded by Saif Ali's incident. Media just buried these news.

two stories India-haters will hate.

#kingpin of #MVA instigated sonia, rahul & uddhav to come together in 2019 & betray the assembly election verdict.

#karachi mourned the defeat of MVA in November 2024


and now, he, along with his pal, are out in the cold, bleak and desolate political darkness desperately seeking a way back in, to again become relevant in the local polity and thence onward (hopefully) to legislative influence.

while Modi ji exuded bonhomie and participated in the "pomegranate" politics organized by the erstwhile and self declared #kingpin, it was AS who brutally and clinically wielded the club, to show them their aukat

"The first trip of my new Commission will be to India. Together with Prime Minister Modi we want to upgrade the strategic partnership with the largest country and democracy in the world"

- Ursula von der Leyen,
President of the European Commission
-

It seems she is down with pneumonia but recovered just in time for Davos. She's facing court cases of corruption for buying COVID vaccines at high prices and 10x eligible population.

She and her minions tried to put lot of pressure on us re Ukraine during the G20 joint declaration and tried to scuttle it like they did in Bali which our folks did not appreciate. She can come if she wants but I'm not sure India really cares anymore.

Cyrano wrote: ↑22 Jan 2025 00:20 ..... She can come if she wants but I'm not sure India really cares anymore..

I think some body would be telling her that " it‘s Indo-Pacific," (not Asia-Pacific , see the <video>), especially when she is announcing the first trip to India.

And also it‘s the strategic goal of FTA between the EU and India, not ...upgrading the "strategic partnership"..

Amber G. wrote: ↑22 Jan 2025 22:15

Cyrano wrote: ↑22 Jan 2025 00:20 ..... She can come if she wants but I'm not sure India really cares anymore..

I think some body would be telling her that " it‘s Indo-Pacific," (not Asia-Pacific , see the <video>), especially when she is announcing the first trip to India.

And also it‘s the strategic goal of FTA between the EU and India, not ...upgrading the "strategic partnership"..

Amber G ji,

She has lost much of her credibility and authority in the EU, and with the rise of the right wing parties in europe, she might not have much of a future herself

By mentioning India and cheen in the same sentence, as indeed, in the same breath, she is hedging her bets

We don't have any future with the eu, seeing as to how they are merely a convenient gathering of ex colonial powers, some of whom are still deeply involved in the current economics and political colonization of parts of africa where they hold sway

The contempt of the rulers for the ruled, subjugated or enslaved will never change because that is human nature. That is why the puncherwallas in India tell the Hindus that we ruled over you for over a thousand years, and don't you forget it

Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen is as german as they come, and she has the genes from the same gene pool that were, not so long ago, responsible for two world wars. The advent of trump has scared the very crap out of europe, as indeed england too.

She is hoping to reboot and thus hopefully politically rejuvenate herself as she has seen at first hand the economic slide that the amrikis have forced the europeans into, with germany taking the major hit in the process.

her interests are tied to a sanitized version of colonial trade with India, where they want and need to push their wines, luxury leather goods, fashion accoutrements, agricultural products including cheese and meat products, while denying India which seeks high tech collaborations to ease the growing pains of a fast rising economy. She has been ultra careful not to piss off India in general, and Modi ji in particular......

germany and indeed much of the EU have prospered disproportionately post WWII, and continue to do so even today, because of the marshall plan and other treaties that fortuitously also reduced defense outlays and related expenditures, where the amrikis did the heavy lifting via NATO and other treaty obligations, and that, in turn, allowed the EU more money in hand to plough back into their economies

All these ungrateful b@$t@rd$ know very well that if it were not for russia, (and indeed India, where they used her troops and her money and her factories that produced a lot of war stores and her food supplies which they plundered without conscience), they would never have won the second world war

India was not given such an opportunity, instead she was deliberately partitioned, decimated by religion, divided by caste and a cancerous neo colonialism was subtly and insidiously imposed on her via traitors like neverwho, ghundhy and the commies who built a treacherous fifth column via the so called civil society, judiciary, pliant media, poisonous FFNGOs, and the padre mullah nexus that captured education, public sector organizations, nationalized banks, the smoothly transitioned ICS to IAS change over that continued to serve their newly minted brown masters and, last but not least, the alleged commie intelligentsia that flooded the universities and tinkered with the minds of the youth in the name of progress and globalism

^^^

Amber G. wrote: ↑22 Jan 2025 22:15
I think some body would be telling her that " it‘s Indo-Pacific," (not Asia-Pacific ..)

Modi/Dr JS effect...People can learn .. now some are calling it "Indo-Pacific"

chetak wrote: ↑22 Jan 2025 23:19

Amber G. wrote: ↑22 Jan 2025 22:15
I think some body would be telling her that " it‘s Indo-Pacific," (not Asia-Pacific , see the <video>), especially when she is announcing the first trip to India.

And also it‘s the strategic goal of FTA between the EU and India, not ...upgrading the "strategic partnership"..

Amber G ji,

She has lost much of her credibility and authority in the EU, and with the rise of the right wing parties in europe, she might not have much of a future herself

By mentioning India and cheen in the same sentence, as indeed, in the same breath, she is hedging her bets

We don't have any future with the eu, seeing as to how they are merely a convenient gathering of ex colonial powers, some of whom are still deeply involved in the current economics and political colonization of parts of africa where they hold sway

The contempt of the rulers for the ruled, subjugated or enslaved will never change because that is human nature. That is why the puncherwallas in India tell the Hindus that we ruled over you for over a thousand years, and don't you forget it

Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen is as german as they come, and she has the genes from the same gene pool that were, not so long ago, responsible for two world wars. The advent of trump has scared the very crap out of europe, as indeed england too.

She is hoping to reboot and thus hopefully politically rejuvenate herself as she has seen at first hand the economic slide that the amrikis have forced the europeans into, with germany taking the major hit in the process.

her interests are tied to a sanitized version of colonial trade with India, where they want and need to push their wines, luxury leather goods, fashion accoutrements, agricultural products including cheese and meat products, while denying India which seeks high tech collaborations to ease the growing pains of a fast rising economy. She has been ultra careful not to piss off India in general, and Modi ji in particular......

germany and indeed much of the EU have prospered disproportionately post WWII, and continue to do so even today, because of the marshall plan and other treaties that fortuitously also reduced defense outlays and related expenditures, where the amrikis did the heavy lifting via NATO and other treaty obligations, and that, in turn, allowed the EU more money in hand to plough back into their economies

All these ungrateful b@$t@rd$ know very well that if it were not for russia, (and indeed India, where they used her troops and her money and her factories that produced a lot of war stores and her food supplies which they plundered without conscience), they would never have won the second world war

India was not given such an opportunity, instead she was deliberately partitioned, decimated by religion, divided by caste and a cancerous neo colonialism was subtly and insidiously imposed on her via traitors like neverwho, ghundhy and the commies who built a treacherous fifth column via the so called civil society, judiciary, pliant media, poisonous FFNGOs, and the padre mullah nexus that captured education, public sector organizations, nationalized banks, the smoothly transitioned ICS to IAS change over that continued to serve their newly minted brown masters and, last but not least, the alleged commie intelligentsia that flooded the universities and tinkered with the minds of the youth in the name of progress and globalism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YTHIiPzagQ

Jan 21, 2025

In a dramatic political shift, Donald Trump has once again reasserted his dominance in American politics, leaving Ursula von der Leyen, the President of the European Commission, facing a humiliating loss of relevance on the global stage.


Trump's refusal to invite von der Leyen to his inauguration has ignited a diplomatic firestorm, symbolizing a decisive break between the United States and Europe.

This move is more than just a personal affront; it highlights a profound realignment of global power dynamics, where the EU is no longer viewed as an equal partner by the U.S.

Trump's rise has been nothing short of explosive. His "America First" rhetoric, deeply ingrained in his political philosophy, is reshaping U.S. foreign policy.

As Trump prepares for his return to the White House, Europe finds itself scrambling to maintain its influence on the global stage.

The diplomatic rift between the U.S. and EU has been exacerbated by Trump's aggressive policies, including the potential imposition of new tariffs on European goods.

These moves signify a broader strategy by Trump to establish stronger, independent alliances, particularly with nations that challenge Brussels' bureaucratic agenda.

Meanwhile, von der Leyen’s leadership in Brussels has come under intense scrutiny.

Once considered the symbol of European unity, her tenure has been marked by increasing dissatisfaction within the European Commission.

Accusations of mismanagement and an inability to steer the EU through growing internal and external challenges are now commonplace.

Critics argue that the EU’s vision of unity and democracy is unraveling, especially as populist movements gain traction in key member states like Hungary, Poland, and Italy.

This shift in power is not just political—it’s cultural.

Figures like Trump, Viktor Orbán, and Elon Musk are reshaping the political discourse, challenging the EU’s authority, and amplifying anti-EU sentiments.

As Europe's political landscape becomes more fragmented, the EU's struggle to maintain its global standing intensifies.

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“My mother came to my room and cried, because she understands power is poison,” said ⁦@RahulGandhi in January 2013 on being appointed party vice-president.

Rahul added that poison comes with power.

He was wrong. It comes even without power.

Night views of Mahakumbh 2025

Meanwhile, back at the ranch ....



the sheeshmahal saga continues to play out the facade of the aam aadmi






He is wearing a jacket worth only 25 thousand rupees and our common man is being trolled for that.

This is so wrong.

What's up with Modi Govt? No Reforms. Reforms Totally dead or what?
No economic reforms. No Police, judiciary or any other changes. The economy is stagnating. They are into freebies.
Did they lose the way? No aggression in kicking out BDs. Why such a dead spirit?

vijayk wrote: ↑25 Jan 2025 20:31 Did they lose the way? No aggression in kicking out BDs. Why such a dead spirit?

Looks like we are following different news sources.
What I can see:
- naxalites under control
- Kashmiri terrorists under control again after a spate of attacks in Jammu
- Khalistanis/farmer protests under control
- Kangladesh under pressure via Arakan rebels
- Waqf act under repeal.
- constant news of demolishing from multiple states - UP, Gujarat, Assam
- illegals being identified all over particularly the nexus of fraud documents is being rooted out.
- frequent drug hauls worth 1000s of crores!

The way I see it Govt. is silently doing a great job.

economy is stagnating - we will see much worse situation in the coming months/years, as the world economy is in doldrums.

Govt is doing pretty good in a lot of areas - building infrastructure for supply chain - freight corridors, ports, airports, metros, trains, railway tracks, highways, shipbuilding yards, PLIs - electronics, boosting temple economy, defense modernization with MII.
plenty of things to cheer about.

Justices J. S. Khehar, Madan Lokur, Kurian Joseph and Adarsh Kumar Goel had declared the 99th Amendment and NJAC Act unconstitutional while Justice Jasti Chelameswar upheld it

Today Justice Khehar gets PadmaVibhushan

"Virender Khehar (relative of a serving judge), had asked for Rs 49 crore from me. In another case Aditya Mishra (relative of another serving judge) had asked Rs 37 crore from me," said the letter. Arunachal CM suicide note.

https://www.business-standard.com/amp/a ... 036_1.html

This Kehar Singh was the person who refused to open the hindu genocide case of JK of 1989-90 saying it was too old but readily opened the same for sikh genocide of 1984.All the 3 minorities have their own ummah traditions.And this govt has the tradition of rewarding such bigots

Is there a strategy or appeasement of Sikhs or right hand doesn't know what left hand is doing or stockholm syndrome ?

x posted from the understanding US thread


Former US State Department official Mike Benz revealed that Reuters received $300 million in contracts from the Biden administration.

Reuters first targeted @elonmusk, then moved to Adani Group, running 90+ hit pieces in just a month.

Adani CFO just called this out, and rightly so.

When you follow the money, you find the agenda: Reuters is paid to attack those who don’t align with their paymasters’ interests.

@rishibagree·3h

The self-proclaimed guardians of the Constitution - LoP Rahul Gandhi and Shri Mallikarjun Kharge, Congress leader in the Rajya Sabha were notably absent from the Republic Day program.

This shows how they respect the Constitution!!

Did anyone see those 2 gentlemen at #RepublicDayParade today?

Isn't LoP Rahul Ghandy the one who roams around every day fooling people with a copy of Constitution in his pocket?

Is this the respect he holds for Constitution?

Or is Rahul conveying "Not My Constitution & Nation"?

This or something like this has happened to many of us or people known to us

This is unbelievable


Don't miss watching this, it's only 2:06 minutes long


AAP Leader explaining their political strategy for forthcoming Delhi elections


WATCH VIDEO

vijayk wrote: ↑26 Jan 2025 04:18

Justices J. S. Khehar, Madan Lokur, Kurian Joseph and Adarsh Kumar Goel had declared the 99th Amendment and NJAC Act unconstitutional while Justice Jasti Chelameswar upheld it

Today Justice Khehar gets PadmaVibhushan

"Virender Khehar (relative of a serving judge), had asked for Rs 49 crore from me. In another case Aditya Mishra (relative of another serving judge) had asked Rs 37 crore from me," said the letter. Arunachal CM suicide note.

https://www.business-standard.com/amp/a ... 036_1.html

This Kehar Singh was the person who refused to open the hindu genocide case of JK of 1989-90 saying it was too old but readily opened the same for sikh genocide of 1984.All the 3 minorities have their own ummah traditions.And this govt has the tradition of rewarding such bigots

Is there a strategy or appeasement of Sikhs or right hand doesn't know what left hand is doing or stockholm syndrome ?

Had coffee with his uncle near or about every day for 30 years. He was a complete opposite of this individuals character. Absolutely NO appeasement syndrome.