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Stan_Savljevic wrote:1) Dr. Angana Chatterji, Professor, Social & Cultural Anthropology, California Institute of Integral Studies and Co-Convener, International People’s Tribunal on Human Rights and Justice in Indian-administered Kashmir.
2) Ms. Anuradha Bhasin Jamwal, Executive editor, Kashmir Times and a peace activist.
3) Mr. Gautam Navlakha, Democratic rights activist and Editorial Consultant, Economic and Political Weekly.
4) Professor. G.R Malik, Head of Department, English, Central University, Kashmir. An eminent scholar of the sub-continent, with a profound knowledge of the history of Kashmir.
4) Ms. Rita Manchanda, Program Executive of South Asia Forum for Human Rights, Co-ordinator of women, media, peace and conflict programs of SAFHR.
5) Ms. Victoria Schofield, Internationally acclaimed author and writer on Kashmir and related topics.

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President; Mehboob Makhdoomi.
They want to distribute ISI money to screw us and they want to advertise the solution given by some Indian for the money and use it for publicity. WOW! The COMMIES, ISI and ISLAMISTS are brilliant.

Based on this arrest, can we send a cease and desist order to them to prevent the contest? Any lawyers on this forum? Can we draft a letter so that we can send this to KAC?
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CNN-IBN Link pointed by Kanchan Da
Ghulam Nabi Fai quotes CNN-IBN to prove his point!

http://www.hotkashmir.com/you-views/262 ... m-nabi-fai
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The immediate effect this will have is for some Massa Netas whoever got money from any "Cashmere" org to STFU and lay low for atleast some time (or risk being accused of taking money from "Pakistani ISI who sheltered OBL"). Expect US sources of Baksheesh to dry up for Hurri-rats also.

Unkil wins this round of testimonial-squeezing.
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Rangudu wrote:It's already news re Dan Burton

Expect pro-ISI people to run for cover.
Burton has received at least $10,000 in contributions from Fai since 1990, while Ahmad has given at least $2,000. Both men may have also bundled contributions for the veteran Indiana lawmaker.
Very very cheap! Tcchi!
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Are Yanks using depleted uranium in the missiles fired from the drones in AF-Pak border? There is regular news of high incidences of brain tumour in the tribal belt affected by drone strikes.

Or is there some high explosive which is known to cause this effect?
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Any links to the reports that state that there has been an increase in incidence of brain tumours ?

It is not just the yanks, the Pawki rat people might be the ones conducting trials on the Pashtun frontier people.
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RajeshA wrote:
Virupaksha wrote:http://www.kashmiri.com/index.php?view= ... y&Itemid=9

please identify people as many as we can in the gallery from KAC, so that we know who are the masks of ISI.
One could download all the photos and save on one's hard-drive. :)
Okay, I've downloaded the website, archived it, and uploaded the archive file to megaupload.

Feel free to download and scan the gallery photos for people you can recognize. Just open index.html, and it will get you started.
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Wow!

US Judge orders remaining secret Headley/Rana documents to be unsealed

Note that it says that this was requested by the US Prosecutor who was the same guy who asked for sealing them a few months ago. Expect some more info to spill out, including ISI/LeT men's names and who spoke to whom about what.
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This isn't the first time Dan Burton's name has propped up while investigating Paki lobbyists. Apparently, in 1997 he demanded 5000$ from a Paki lobbyist who couldn't come up with the paltry sum! ( Goes to show the state of Pakis prior to Unkil Sam's generous bakshish post 9/11). Curiously, Dan Burton is married to muslim woman named Dr.Samia Tawil ( a paki perhaps? ).
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Ambar wrote: Curiously, Dan Burton is married to muslim woman named Dr.Samia Tawil ( a paki perhaps? ).
Syrian
http://www.hancockphysicians.com/physicians_burton.asp
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Danny Boy appears to be a scumbag (he called Clinton a scum bag because of extra marital affairs).
Samia Tawil is a physician and 22 years younger.

http://advanceindiana.blogspot.creal om/2006/09/is-it-right.html
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What a pleasant day! :D
Rep. Burton may have received Pakistani cash
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/ ... _cash.html

"Obama donor" Pakistani agent gave $10,000 to GOP congressman
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_ ... bama_donor

Pakistan Spy Agency Spent Millions Trying to Influence Congress
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics ... ess/40161/

Va. Man Arrested on Pakistani Spy Payroll
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article ... 40,00.html
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Meanwhile Pagals of Pakiland are doing what they do best: bad mouth India. Madman Majid (Nizami), uberRAPE and head of Nazaria-i-Pakistan which includes the Nutty Nation, addressing kids from his jihadi Nazariati Summer School:
TheNation Editor-in-Chief and Nazaria-i-Pakistan Trust Chairman Majid Nizami said here on Monday that India was conspiring to destabilise Karachi and “we should be ready to secure our country from such an aggression”.
Commenting on the deteriorating law and order situation in Karachi, Majid Nizami said that India was behind the unrest in the business hub of Pakistan and that the Israel-made weapons being used in Karachi were reaching in the biggest city of Pakistan through India. The foreign interference was not only creating unrest in Karachi, but also in Balochistan and Fata, he added
Interesting that RAPE-sponsored schools teach exactly what is taught in the Jamaat madrassahs.

http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-news ... S-students
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jrjrao wrote:Complete court filing of the criminal complaint:

US vs. Syed Ghulam Nabi Fai and Zaheer Ahmad

http://www.scribd.com/doc/60358771/Fai- ... -Affidavit
Item 18 of the affidavit shows that the FBI and Department of Justice gave the slimebag Ghulam Nabi Fai a chance to register as the agent of a foreign government, in March 2010, and instead he wrote back denying connection to any foreign government.
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saip wrote:Danny Boy appears to be a scumbag (he called Clinton a scum bag because of extra marital affairs).
Samia Tawil is a physician and 22 years younger.

http://advanceindiana.blogspot.creal om/2006/09/is-it-right.html
Burton also has fathered a son (outside wedlock) with a former state dept employee.
IIRC, he is the only member to have voted against a motion prohibiting senators from accepting gifts.

The Pakis did their homework before approaching him.
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Somewhat off-topic but maybe useful for people to know:

http://www.fara.gov/fara-faq.html#3
Excerpts:
The purpose of FARA is to insure that the U.S. Government and the people of the United States are informed of the source of information (propaganda) and the identity of persons attempting to influence U.S. public opinion, policy, and laws.
Are foreign governments the only foreign principals?

No. The term also includes foreign political parties, a person or organization outside the United States, except U.S. citizens, and any entity organized under the laws of a foreign country or having its principal place of business in a foreign country.
Does everyone who serves a foreign principal have to register?

No, there are a number of exemptions. For example, diplomats and officials of foreign governments, and their staffs, are exempt if properly recognized by the U.S. State Department. Persons whose activities are of a purely commercial nature or solely of a religious, scholastic, academic, scientific or fine arts nature are exempt. Certain soliciting or collecting of funds to be used for medical aid, or for food and clothing to relieve human suffering are also exempt. Lawyers engaged in legal representation of foreign principals in the courts or similar type proceedings, so long as the attorney does not try to influence policy at the behest of his client, are exempt. Any agent who is engaged in lobbying activities and is registered under the Lobbying Disclosure Act is exempt from registration under FARA if the representation is not on behalf of a foreign government or foreign political party.
How does the Act work?

1. The Act requires every agent of a foreign principal, not otherwise exempt, to register with the Department of Justice and file forms outlining its agreements with, income from, and expenditures on behalf of the foreign principal. These forms are public records and must be supplemented every six months.

2. The Act also requires that informational materials (formerly propaganda) be labeled with a conspicuous statement that the information is disseminated by the agents on behalf of the foreign principal. The agent must provide copies of such materials to the Attorney General.

3. Any agent testifying before a committee of Congress must furnish the committee with a copy of his most recent registration statement.

4. The agent must keep records of all his activities and permit the Attorney General to inspect them.
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It is now in NY Times as well.. FBI Arrests man said to be front for donations .

So unkil is turning the screws on the Pakis and hitting their "jaguar vein" in Cashmere! This is serious stuff. After all these years of running amok , this Fai guy is now in the slammer!
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I smell quid pro quo for India. Talks with Pakis about cashmere. Don't retaliate for Mumbais. Unkil will make sure "save Cashmere" chorus is toned downfrom the US. Or is it successful chai-biskoot by our diplomats?

It is not just Unkil squeezing Paki testimonials. There are wheels within wheels here.
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^^^^
As I recall, several years ago, some Indian-Americans talked to someone in the Indian embassy about Fai and his activities, and reported that the diplomat was not very bothered by it. This therefore would not be seen as a very big favor by India. IMO, it is mostly a squeeze on Pakistan.
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Just listened to a talk by this Victoria Schofield female. Put her in the same mould as Uneven or golimaro. Plus, she is a former fam friend of the Bhuttos, claims that the pakis are benign in afghanistan, one should give them some leverage given their historical interests yada yada and is angry with the failure of the Holbrooke mission to club fak-ap with India. Certainly belongs to the Cashmere bandwagon. Has written a book on "Cashmere give give to the pakis" and another on "afghan frontier is a hippie trail".
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RajeshA wrote:
Shrinivasan wrote:Joe on the street does not differentiate between Pakee, Tellibunnie, Alkeeda... they are all the same
In Washington D.C. policymakers still want to bed Pakistan, and videos like these help these policymakers make the case that Pakistan is only a victim of terrorism and needs to be helped.
Even this is slowly changing!
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krishnan wrote:ok, it will be ready in an hr.
Thanks a ton! I'll forward to a hundred people! Post of different forums?
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This is between Master and the slave.The Master is showing what happens if the slave does not behave the way he is suppose to.

Nothing to do with India. Don't you think India does not know about these guys??? But Uncle may definetly try use this info to get something out of India i..e if more stuff like this comes out.

With Judge suddenly ordering to unseal on Headley case, except more ... Get some pop corn and enjoy the show..

Pindi GHQ must be seeing lot of smoke inside...... :)
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vijayk wrote:I have a feeling that US finally turned the corner. They are getting ready to work on a strategy to destroy the state of TSP and its terrorist influence. They have had enough. We can get a confirmation when ISI agencts/Paki diplomats start disappearing or getting assassinated, their assets taken over and their kids start getting rejected for admissions to universities. When the US/west start turning the screws onK TSP terrorist families, the Paki facade state will beg for mercy. I hope the SD by that time finalizes the strategy to split that state.
I won't say turned a corner! This more a roundabout, will take a long time to turn or continue on course. Don't expect a shaft turn like a hair-pin bend. This process started with Obama's election! Conned with dronacharya blessings, OBL tap etc... Just last week Bruce Riedel talked about hitting RAPE/RAPELETS, the fun starts now
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Rajiv Lather wrote:Are Yanks using depleted uranium in the missiles fired from the drones in AF-Pak border? There is regular news of high incidences of brain tumour in the tribal belt affected by drone strikes.

Or is there some high explosive which is known to cause this effect?
I would not believe the story even if they were using DU. There is a convincing medical scientific explanation.

In the first place there has to be an effective "screening system" in which the existing number of brain tumors that occur per year in the area is already known. Only when that is in place can one start saying that more people are getting tumors. It will still take many years before any conclusions can be reached. Even with the best surveillance systems on the planet the countries of western Europe are still not sure whether cellphones do or do not cause more brain tumors. In the Af-Pak region? Not a chance. it is a cooked up story.
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Rajiv Lather wrote:Are Yanks using depleted uranium in the missiles fired from the drones in AF-Pak border? There is regular news of high incidences of brain tumour in the tribal belt affected by drone strikes.

Or is there some high explosive which is known to cause this effect?
Pakis have been fretting & fuming about chemical weapons, no murmur About new-clear. Pukes are silent as uncle might want to investigate and measure radiation which might expose other perfidy of the pukes.
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saip wrote:Danny Boy appears to be a scumbag (he called Clinton a scum bag because of extra marital affairs).
Samia Tawil is a physician and 22 years younger.

http://advanceindiana.blogspot.creal om/2006/09/is-it-right.html
May be she is part of the payoff!!! :((
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* Fai was in the leadership of JKJEI - J&K Jamaat-e-Islami.
* JKJEI was sponsored by Pakistan/ISI and its objective was to establish Nizam-e-Mustafa {Islamic State} and subsequent merger with Pakistan.
* JKJEI was banned between 1975-1977, before contesting and securing a few seats in the state assembly.
* In 1995, ISI convened a meeting, at Mecca; Fai attended this meeting as the Executive Director of Kashmir American Council.

* In 1993, Abdul Ghani Lone joined with Fai in their anti-India exertions.
* Lone was the founder of JKPC.
* JKPC - J & K People's conference was co-founded in 1975 by Lone.
* Lone lobbied some in US Congress and the then Administration for 'Kashmir's' secession from India.

Hawala transactions
* Circa 2003, ISI spent Rs200 crore to fuel terrorism in J&K.
* ISI directly contributed 25% of this amount.
* 40% of the amount came from other Islamic groups throughout the World.
* 1% from local sources - extortion rackets.
* Fai along with Ayub Thakur (UK) were implicated in the hawla transactions connected with terrorists groups.
* Pakistan/ISI was one of JKPC sponsors.

* In 1993, AsiaWatch, a Washington based organization, condemned Pakistan for aiding and abetting terrorism in J&K. It also accused Indian military of human rights violations.
* In 1994, Bill Clinton, as the President, wrote a 3-para letter to Fai that started a controversy and India objected to it strongly.
* On June 1 2004, Fai was one of the people to testify, in US House of Representatives, to the Sub-Committee of Human Rights & Wellness hearing on the human rights violation in J&K, Punjab etc.
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I think the US has traditionally not taken a "severe view" of Paki activities in the US that were anti-India as long as they were not anti-US and as long as US interests were served by the continuation of such activities. Britain did exactly that - and to many countries - not just India. Allowing such activities is a political-diplomatic tool.

In my view, the only "corner" that the US may have turned is a realization that an India obsession prevents Pakistan from doing what needs to be done to cooperate with the US. All these years the US believed that the India obsession was an acceptable quid pro quo in order to get Pakistan to cooperate. Now the US seems to be trying to veer Pakistan away from the India obsession - not by using direct piskological lectures (as Pakis claim) but by morally, diplomatically and financially" reducing Pakistan's ability to obsess with India. Until the US stops supplying arms to Pakistan that can be used against India one can't actually say that the US has turned the corner. IMO.

The presence of a functioning Fai in the US was an irritant - but not an overwhelming obstacle to India. But it did give the Pakis the impression that they could run riot in the US in an anti-India campaign and get away without repaying the US by doing the US's job.
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While this is somewhat pathetic schadenfreude, I cannot help smirking about the games Unkil plays when sufficiently provoked. I'm sure that TSPA apologists will prevail sooner or later but Kayani and co should learn that needling an elephant for giggles works for a while until the elephant lifts you and drops you in the mudpit.

They have been after this Fai character for years. This shows that Unkil can expose and embarass TSPA/ISI at many levels almost at will. All they need is a little motivation.
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Stan_Savljevic wrote:Just listened to a talk by this Victoria Schofield female. Put her in the same mould as Uneven or golimaro. Plus, she is a former fam friend of the Bhuttos, claims that the pakis are benign in afghanistan, one should give them some leverage given their historical interests yada yada and is angry with the failure of the Holbrooke mission to club fak-ap with India. Certainly belongs to the Cashmere bandwagon. Has written a book on "Cashmere give give to the pakis" and another on "afghan frontier is a hippie trail".
Thanks. Saved me from listening to it.
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Rangudu wrote:Awesome news!

This Syed Fai is actually the so called "Indian" Kashmiri Ghulam Nabi Fai, the man who organizes fake Kashmiri conferences in DC.

He's now been arrested as an ISI agent. Unkil knows where to hit to embarass TSP.
Absolutely big news.

So, Pasha was not very cooperative enough in the last meeting !
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SSridhar wrote:So, Pasha was not very cooperative enough in the last meeting !
Sridhar,

Could it be possible that Pasha could not deliver what he was asked for? I ask because if that's the case it could be that TSPA is not 100 per cent in control anymore. And it seems unlikely that he'd grow a pair suddenly after guboing for so long.
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amit wrote:Could it be possible that Pasha could not deliver what he was asked for? I ask because if that's the case it could be that TSPA is not 100 per cent in control anymore. And it seems unlikely that he'd grow a pair suddenly after guboing for so long.
Sec Clinton gave a list, of which Kashmiri might have been hallaled (not 400% sure still). the other Four remain. the deadline was till July end, Probably Pasha wanted more time, actionable intelligence etc...This is what he got in return for coming to DC empty handed.
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Rangudu wrote:
Awesome news!

This Syed Fai is actually the so called "Indian" Kashmiri Ghulam Nabi Fai, the man who organizes fake Kashmiri conferences in DC.

He's now been arrested as an ISI agent. Unkil knows where to hit to embarass TSP.
You made my day!!! Fai along with Burton and the whole Khalistani group in Virginia/DC area needs to be behind bars for being on the payroll of ISI and supporter of terrorism. These "silent" terrorists have caused enough grief to common democratic peaceful citizens of India.
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In 2001, the US told the ISI we are going to hit Kunduz, get your men out and dust off your deniability excuses.

In 2011 the US has again warned Pasha about the groups they are going to expose and asked him to get the denials ready.

Maybe that is all that has occurred? No real change?
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^^ But this time actual ISI assets are being unmasked and hauled up ( even the Brussels and London assets might soon be unmasked soon)!!!!!
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

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amit wrote:
SSridhar wrote:So, Pasha was not very cooperative enough in the last meeting !
Could it be possible that Pasha could not deliver what he was asked for? I ask because if that's the case it could be that TSPA is not 100 per cent in control anymore. And it seems unlikely that he'd grow a pair suddenly after guboing for so long.
Amit, when I said 'accommodative', I did not mean that the ISI became brave to shut the talks on the face of the CIA. That has not generally been the ISI tactic in dealing with the US. Lt. Gen. Pasha was helpless. I posted the following here more than a week back.
Narad, we should remember that the PA is composed of just two types of soldiers/officers: those who want to use Islam to defeat India and those who see defeat of India is a first step towards Caliphate, i.e Ghazwa-e-Hind. The former type are thinking of Strategic Depth in Afghanistan while the latter type are trying to achieve RSD (Reverse Strategic Depth) in Pakistan. This is the conflict. While top Generals of the PA are in SD-mindset, I can bet my SDRE testimonials that significant sections of the latter are in RSD-mindset. Virtually all Islamist parties and terrorist outfits subscribe to this ideology. The SD officers are therefore afraid of doing anything that may end up in unpleasant repercussions for themselves. Besides, the Punjabi Taliban and the TTP are against these officers and pretending to be as religious as them suddenly is not going to win their support. The PA is therefore marked. This is why PA may be forced to send terrorists into India again, in order to divert attention, create some unity and borrow more time from AQAM.
Now, I believe that Kayani & Pasha are in the SD-mindset and are unable to defy the diktats of the RSD-group. To me, this shows the ascendancy of Taliban-pasand Islamists within the PA.

On another note, the terror attack did happen at Mumbai. But, it is a dry run. They were testing the new technology. The PA is yet to carry out a more devastating attack on us. As the PA/ISI get fried in the US (now, the Ghulam Nabi Fai incident too), the SD & RSD groups coalesce and would have no other option but to attack us.
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