Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29th May 2012

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With Pakeezahs, Pakis will soon mint money!

Too bad, the Army has not yet integrated this lucrative business model in their business empire. Just a matter of time!
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Pak embassy in US biggest spender among missions
ISLAMABAD: The Pakistan embassy in Washington leads in terms of annual expenditures among all 121 foreign missions which the country maintains throughout the world, the National Assembly was informed on Thursday.
In reply to a question by Mr Muhammad Ali Khan, the lower house of the parliament came to know that during 2009-2010, the Pakistan embassy in Washington spent Rs775.172 million.

These figures show that despite Pakistan`s stop-start relationship with the United States, the Foreign Office has a substantial presence in that country. And their annual expenditures prove that the country`s diplomats in the US have busy lives.
An official of the Foreign Office defended the heavy presence in the US, saying the large Pakistani community benefited from it.

The prime minister is the competent authority to appoint ambassadors from among officers of the Foreign office of BS-20 and above depending upon their seniority and suitability for posting under consideration.
The money in Aid comes back in this way to USA.

This is free flow Pak lobby spending worldwide.
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Did you note their cadre designation?

They have so many levels of BS! Above BS-20.
Must be very concentrated above that to be chosen few.
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RajeshA wrote:
With Pakeezahs, Pakis will soon mint money!
Too bad, the Army has not yet integrated this lucrative business model in their business empire. Just a matter of time!
PA should take the advise on Jihad footing and devise the way to promote this parading of Paoqries in front of rich kaffirs. Operation Poaq For Thoak will make every Indian shiver the quiver in Dhoti like Sotti.
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Jhujar wrote:As predicted, For money Sake ,Pakistani are parading their women in front of Kuffar men

Pakistani Fashion Show in New York wins high praise
"Far from being confined within geographical borders, Pakistan Fashion Islamic Terrorism has gone global, leaving its distinct mark on almost every major culture in the world."[/b]
Worldwide, people are beginning to understand the distinctive Pakistani involvement (state, non-state and every other type of actor)in nefarious activities all over. Every culture in the world has been the recipient of Pakistaniyat, even obscure places like Timbuktu.

Wonder if the fashion show had designer burkhas, niqabs, hijabs and (suicide) vests!
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ISLAMABAD: The Pakistan embassy in Washington leads in terms of annual expenditures among all 121 foreign missions which the country maintains throughout the world, the National Assembly was informed on Thursday.
In reply to a question by Mr Muhammad Ali Khan, the lower house of the parliament came to know that during 2009-2010, the Pakistan embassy in Washington spent Rs775.172 million.


Sure, you have to spend money to make beg for money in style.
These figures show that despite Pakistan`s stop-start relationship with the United States, the Foreign Office has a substantial presence in that country. And their annual expenditures prove that the country`s diplomats in the US have busy lives.
An official of the Foreign Office defended the heavy presence in the US, saying the large Pakistani community benefited from it.
Yeah, the large Pakistani community ... all of 180+ million of them are purportedly the beneficiaries .
The prime minister is the competent authority to appoint ambassadors from among officers of the Foreign office of BS-20 and above depending upon their seniority and suitability for posting under consideration.
The cadre designations 'BS' is for Bhikari Shitistanis. The higher the designations, the higher the denominations in which they accept money.
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RajeshA wrote:
With Pakeezahs, Pakis will soon mint money!

Too bad, the Army has not yet integrated this lucrative business model in their business empire. Just a matter of time!
Rajeshji, how could you be so sure? The Paki Fauj owns the country! The faujis are neck deep in every kind of business and nefarious activity - Cereals, logistics, cement, real estate, drugs, weapons, money laundering, kidnappings, murders, extortion etc. Could it not be possible that the fauj is already involved in the Pakeezah business? At worst, there must be a non-state-actor regiment that is involved.
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RCase ji,

Pakeezah model goes beyond simple prostitution. If you wish to read about it, you may start here.
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Jhujar wrote:Blasphemy accused severely beaten by infuriated mob
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/pakis ... y/964397/#
The principal and staff of Pakistan's first college of arts are facing accusations of blasphemy for including paintings and a feature that allegedly support homosexuality and ridicule Islamic values in the institution's annual journal. An additional district and sessions judge on Tuesday directed the chief of Old Anarkali police station to act in accordance with law on an application seeking the registration of a criminal case against the administration of the National College of Arts in Lahore. The application filed with police contended that the college's principal and staff had published paintings and a feature that "favoured homosexuality" and ridiculed Islamic values in the annual journal "Sohbat". Judge Sajjad Ahmad issued the order in response to a petition filed by a man named Abad Ali and directed the police station chief to lodge an FIR if any cognizable offence was made out against the respondents. The petitioner's counsel Mumtaz Ahmad Mangat argued that the college's principal and other members of its administration were liable to be prosecuted for disgracing the Quran and ridiculing Islam. He asked the court to direct police to register a case against the respondents under the blasphemy law and the Anti-Terrorism Act. :rotfl:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-new ... 81693.aspx
Pakistan's first arts college's editorial board has been dissolved and two other departments have been closed, weeks after the institution's annual journal was accused of publishing material that supported homosexuality and ridiculed Islamic values. {they should be thankful for losing just their jobs and not their lives}

"I have dissolved the editorial board, closed down the research and publication and architecture wings :rotfl: {What is a homosexual architecture? Does it have long columns and no domes? :mrgreen:} and suspended the director for research and publication," Kausar told reporters.
The accompanying photo proves that they taught only art in the college and not literature (or spelling or grammar)
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US yields to new terms of engagement :roll:
( Czeck Hillary's picture with folded hand)

[Poakdelusionfusionconfusion/ Finally Pakistan wins its first Battle
ISLAMABAD: The United States has accepted the new terms of engagement with Pakistan covering all aspects of bilateral ties between the two countries as enumerated by Islamabad, possibly bringing to an end the acrimonious relationship between the two countries created in the wake of the Salala attack last November.Pakistan accepted the set of proposals handed to it by the high-powered US mission during the two-day talks that ended here on Monday evening.The draft of the understanding will come up for formal approval in the meeting of the Defence Committee of the Cabinet (DCC) that is scheduled for today (Tuesday) with Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf in the chair, following which the federal cabinet will endorse the decisions of the DCC tomorrow (Wednesday).US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will call her counterpart in Islamabad Hina Rabbani Khar and will convey the apology for the Salala incident after which the remaining issues will be settled one after the other as the ground lines of communication (G-LOC) are reopened.The route will be strictly used only for non-lethal goods for the troops combating in Afghanistan. The passage fee per container would be charged according to its size and the stuff carried would be subject to scrutiny as no weapon or ammunition would be allowed to be transported.The US has assured Pakistan that it would respect Pakistan’s sovereignty and intelligence sharing will guide the use of drones in difficult terrain of the tribal areas.
In the meantime, highly-placed diplomatic sources told The News that Washington had assured Islamabad that it would release half of the payment equaling $400 million under the Coalition Support Fund (CSF) next week while the rest would be released within this year.The United States had pledged that it would pay Pakistan $800 million in the year 2011 for providing assistance in the ‘war on terror’ but tension in ties came in the way of payment according to the stipulated time. The US is bound to pay Pakistan an amount of 2.5 billion US dollars.The United States will also discuss at the appropriate level the realisation of funds under the Kerry-Lugar law which will help improve the balance of payment and allow the government to fulfill the fiscal commitment it had made in the budget for the next year with its people. With this, the military cooperation between the two defence establishments would also be restored to the normal scale, sources maintained.The sources said that Finance Minister Senator Hafeez Shaikh, who led Pakistan in talks with visiting US Undersecretary of State Thomas Nydes, has reported to Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf about the outcome of the negotiations on Monday evening. Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar was also present.
Pakistan’s Ambassador in the United States Sherry Rehman has arrived here in the wee hours of Tuesday. She will also attend the DCC on special invitation.Miyan Gilani will teceive her at the airport with open hands.
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http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... r-violence
Ashraf Afghanistan,Ajlaaf Pakistan clash over border violence

( One Afghan Soldier is equal to 100 Pakjabi Poaqoldier)
Pakistani officials accused up to 60 Afghan soldiers on Monday of crossing into Pakistani territory and sparking clashes that killed two tribesman.It was the latest in a series of escalating cross-border attacks reported in Afghanistan and Pakistan that are inflaming tensions along the porous border as NATO prepares to end its combat mission against the Taliban in 2014.Both countries blame each other for harbouring Taliban fighters active on both sides of their 2,400 kilometre (1,500 mile) border, fanning distrust between Kabul and Islamabad, and complicating a peace process in Afghanistan.Kabul threatened to report Islamabad to the UN Security Council over what it alleges is the shelling of villages, while Islamabad said it would protest formally to Kabul against the latest incursion."If our bilateral discussions regarding this issue brings no result, we will refer this issue to the United Nations Security Council," Afghan foreign ministry spokesman Faramarz Tamana told AFP.In Pakistan's semi-autonomous tribal belt, security officials said two tribesmen were killed in Upper Kurram district in clashes with 60 Afghan army soldiers.Another tribesman was also wounded "after they traded fire with Afghan army soldiers on seeing them inside Pakistani territory," a senior official told AFP on condition of anonymity.The clashes lasted for more than 90 minutes after which security forces were sent to the area on the Afghan border, he said.Local residents said the Afghans were pursuing attackers fleeing Shehar-e-Nau village in Paktia province.Afghan defence officials denied the alleged incursion."We are not aware of such an operation by ANA (Afghan National Army) in that area," Daulat Wazir spokesman for the Ministry of Defence said.Colonel Ahmad Jan, spokesman for army corps 203 in southeastern Afghanistan said: "It is not true, our forces have not entered Pakistan. We have not had any operations near the border recently."A spokesman for Afghanistan's National Directorate of Security intelligence agency said cross-border fire had killed four people, including a woman and a child, and wounded six others, in the last week.Afghans and Americans blame Pakistan for not doing more to eliminate havens on its soil, which are used as launch pads for attacks across the border.Last month, the US commander of NATO in Afghanistan blamed the Pakistan-based Haqqani network for a siege on a lakeside hotel in Kabul that killed 18 people.
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Editorial in the New York Times devoted to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Crippled, Chaotic-Pakistan
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Jhujar wrote:US yields to new terms of engagement :roll:
US yields to new terms of engagement
^^The US is also coordinating its press releases to sell the impending deal.
Pakistan route cut-off costs billions- US

In a related article ...
Before the November attack, Pakistan was charging the U.S. $250 per truck. Afterward, Pakistan demanded $5,000 and the U.S. countered with $500. It's unclear where the deal stands now.
The U.S. has compensated for the closed route by using a much longer, more expensive supply line that runs into Afghanistan through Central Asia. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has said the route is costing an extra $100 million a month now and could grow as the U.S. starts to withdraw equipment in advance of the 2014 troop drawdown in Afghanistan.

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The U.S. has sought to finesse the issue by providing a list of senior officials who have expressed regret over the incident , including President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, said the senior American official on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the discussions.
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Providing a list of those who have expressed regret is no good.
I extend my full support for the Paki demand of an unconditional apology by GOTUS in writing (in triplicate) and then readout in front of press.
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arun wrote:Editorial in the New York Times devoted to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Crippled, Chaotic-Pakistan
Has anybody noticed that apart from the missile test there is no news about Pak military posture or mil ex in the last one year or so. No major news about any large scale mil ex. With no money they are left with only testing their stock of missiles
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A keen Paki watcher told me recently that Mush stepped down just to fix the system from outside.

An elaborate plan is being out in to fix the system in Pakistan. Mushy is working to get support from all major countries and to stop or keep the impending civil war within small region. The civil war will tear the nation apart and mil will also be affected. Mushy is the chosen one to bring order after the chaos.
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What's Mush seeking? Civil war?
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Lilo wrote:[
Can any expert explain how a mere callback can clone an entire SIM ....?
Does this mean that the whole paki wireless network is compromised at some critical level...?
It would be nice if other countries come together and agree to ban incoming and outgoing pak ISD calls.
I answered 1 such +92 call and am worried (person claimed to be from Airtel and spoke in a Urdu /Hindi mix). I got suspicious and hung up. Got 2 more calls after that from different +92numbers.
So far my phone has not been misused. Can someone throw more light please.
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^^^ I work in communications, and I have some limited understanding of the GSM/3G standards. I am researching more into how this could end up happening. Seems very complicated to read local storage of the SIM, but then if its Chinese equipment all that may be possible.

Cloning a SIM, simply means there would be two physical SIMs with the same IMSI floating around. So an intruder can receive the calls you get and also make calls from your number. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMSI). Note that two different SIMs with the same IMSI can have different local storage, i.e. the numbers you have stored in your SIM will not be necessarily "cloned". But at the same time since the intruder can receive your calls he or she can make a log of numbers you receive calls from.

Off the top of my head, The only way a "complete" clone (with even the local SIM data cloned) can happen is if the cellphone OEM manufacturer has provided some way for an "over the air" transfer of SIM information by using an "easter bunny" code that violates the standards by using some loophole in the GSM/3G standards to transmit this data over to the receiver.

The cell towers store certain subset of SIM information, if the cell towers are compromised then the caller could call using a special hacked up mobile that could capture information from the cell tower. (That may or may not have complete info to clone physical data in the SIM). Note that cell towers usually store only the IMSI, so the user can clone a SIM and make calls, but wont get an idea of what is locally stored.

The other option is that the cell towers from Bakistan and India are made by the same manufacturer, and hence have special modes that could enable hijack/hacking.

With the proliferation of Chinese network equipment, hijacked cell towers with hijacked cellphones are a distinct possibility.

GOI (and Indians) better start watching our Musharrafs.
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So he admits racism in Pakis is worse than 1860 southern states of USA when commanches were shot for 3 dollars. Paki Army treats its citizens in aworse manner??
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There I fixed it with what is really happening!

He is hunting for Vampire Djinns deep in his musharraf after all the GUBOing done before Unkil and the rest of the goons. Who knows what he will find now.
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Musharaf makes the following claims in this video: -

1. On being asked that what is responsible for the condition of Pakistan, which today looks like a terminally ill patient, man who just got laid off etc etc. Is this the Paki stan Jinnah had envisaged? Mush ducks the question and instead claims all Paki military dictators including him are just like Abraham Lincoln. :rotfl: They saved the state by doing coups in order to protect the constitution.

2. The moderator asks could there be people in ISI actively supporting terrorism against A'stan, Mush says I can't be 100% sure at the tactical level, there may be some elements :lol: but at the strategic level Pakistan doesn't encourage attacks on US troops inside A'stan.

3. The moderator presses hard and asks if you were having drinks with a jairnail in Islamabad and question came up about Pakistani state support to terrorists based in the tribal areas, would you have an honest conversation about it or that would be shocking question to all of you?

Mush fumes and blames India for creating an anti-Pakistan A'stan which is forcing the innocent Pakjabi mohammedan jairnals to fend for themselves by supporting the Pakhtoons against India's likely support of Northern Alliance.

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Cross post from Intelligence & National Security Discussion

Planned to attack Nashik Defence Academy after 26/11, says Abu Jundal | NDTV
New Delhi: Abu Jundal has reportedly told interrogators that after 26/11, the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) had shortlisted the Nashik Police Academy in Maharashtra as a terror target. The plan was to emulate the attack on the police training academy in Lahore in 2009 - terrorists entered the school with grenades and rockets; at least 10 people were killed over nearly eight hours as Pakistani officials fought back.
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26/11: Abu Jundal names same Pak army officers as Headley did | TOI
MUMBAI: The statements of American jihadi David Headley and alleged 26/11 handler Zabihuddin Ansari, alias Abu Jundal, match in one key respect: they have both named the same three Pakistani officials as being involved in the planning and execution of the 26/11 attacks. Sources in the Maharashtra Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS), which is keeping tabs on the developments in Delhi, where Jundal is being interrogated, said Jundal has named Major Iqbal, Major Sameer Ali and Colonel Shah of the Pakistani army.

Jundal is believed to have told interrogators that Major Iqbal provided Rs 25 lakh for the boat that was initially purchased for the 2008 attacks. However, the terrorists' first attempt to reach Mumbai by sea was thwarted due to bad weather. "Prior to November 2008, the ISI had sailed a weapons-laden boat towards Mumbai, but the boat rammed into rocks and the attack was postponed," said an officer in Mumbai on condition of anonymity.

Mumbai officers are being kept abreast of developments in Delhi by central investigating agencies. The revelation continues to put pressure on Pakistan, which has been denying any role in the attacks.

Pakistani-American Headley named the same three Pakistani army officials, according to a National Investigation Agency report on his statement. Headley had said that these three Pakistani army officials were among the architects of the 26/11 attacks. Investigators will reportedly compare the statements of Jundal and Headley.

Headley also told the American FBI that Jamaat-ud-Dawa chief Hafeez Saeed was in the loop at each and every stage of the planning and execution of the attacks. Jundal has told investigators that Abu Kaahfa, Abu Al Qama, Muzzamil ,Sajid Majeed, Abu Anas and Abu Hamza were present in the control room from where instructions were given to the 26/11 terrorists.

Jundal, who was in the Lashkar-e-Taiba's (LeT) 26/11 control room, was deported last month from Saudi Arabia. He was a Simi member before he joined the outlawed terror outfit Indian Mujaheedin (IM), which is accused of perpetrating blasts throughout the country. Jundal is also accused in the 2006 Aurangabad arms haul. Jundal allegedly played a key role in bringing the LeT and IM together for their common cause: spreading terror in the name of jihad in India.

The LeT has secretly orchestrated and financed several blasts in the country since 2000, including the 2003 twin blasts and 2006 serial train blasts. Security agencies learnt about the LeT-IM link only after the Mumbai Crime Branch busted an IM module with members that had perpetrated blasts since 2005.

Jundal's name also cropped up in the 2010 Pune German Bakery blast, which left 17 dead and 65 wounded. The police discovered that Jundal sent Rs 6 lakh through hawala channels for the blast.
Also, check out video titled "Jundal's passport exposes Pak lies" which shows the Puki passport that this pig had in his possession on whose basis ISI wanted him extradited to Jihaidstan. I'm unable to find an exclusive link to that video.
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I think Most of the world has been fooled into India=Pakistan thingy. With the Afghans braving up, in Popular Opinion, A New Image of Afghanistan= Pakistan is being Formed. We should support this Whole Heartedly. With Increasing Indian Industrialization, the old Myth will diminish fast from the public view and Pakis would be brought to their senses of where their Aukat stands even below the Feet of the Pathans. With Pathans invading Pakistan and slaughtering Pakjabis everyday.

We should make an Afghan Version of Gadar where a Pathan takes away a Pakjabi Girl killing Hundreds of Pakjabis on the way. This will give confidence to the Pathans to get back their Territory and Kick the Ass of Pakistanis. Also Pakjabi Mahilyas being mad for Pathanis should be promoted.
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@laxmikanth
What if the SIM card is made in PRC and an embedded Trojan s/w is built on which could be remotely activated?

What if the missed call is dialed and a background process is activated as soon as the connection is made.
What if an answering machine kicks in when the missed call is returned and the message is embedded with viral / trojan
Recall that virus software has been developed that is encrypted into image pixels ( illegal / ***** site video and pictures)
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Roperia wrote:Cross post from Intelligence & National Security Discussion

Planned to attack Nashik Defence Academy after 26/11, says Abu Jundal | NDTV
New Delhi: Abu Jundal has reportedly told interrogators that after 26/11, the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) had shortlisted the Nashik Police Academy in Maharashtra as a terror target. The plan was to emulate the attack on the police training academy in Lahore in 2009 - terrorists entered the school with grenades and rockets; at least 10 people were killed over nearly eight hours as Pakistani officials fought back.
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This reminds. Shiv, do you have that picture of two paki cadets crying like baby and hugging each other after the attack? please please can you post it again? I want to cherish that moment :D
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3 things

> A. Mush talks about Pashtun manority == Afghan Taliban as if Karzai is a Tajik. B. Mush a 'proud' 'mohajir' who remembers his train journey to Pakistan because THEY could not live with the majority, and then again was part of THE institution that had HUGE problems in handing over legitmate power to the majority party in its history, is banding out this argument of majority must have its way, as a blackmail.

> Second is "We are willing to accept the reality of Israel if the Israeli-Palestinian dispute is resolved." This is classic Musharraf speak. 

A. So "acceptance of reality" is made conditional, or else he/they are going to be in a fantasy land. Good luck with that. B. Once Israeli-Palestenians dispute is settled, what are the ones living on the Muslim Planet going to do? not accept it?

> Thirrd, Musharraf, The person who convincing the West (when he was in power) that he doesn't see how Iran could be stopped from making a nuclear weapon.(They have the blueprint, I don't see how they a determined nation can be stopped, interview), was on a mission to Iran among other things, to convince Iran as to not to build the bomb. Incredible.

(And what is Aspen 2012,dumb and dumber?)
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Acharya wrote:When did they start exporting pros*utes
:roll:
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By the way,

Stanley Mchrystal was also part of "Aspen".
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Everyone with a few working brain cells knows what an utterly contemptible liar this Masharrat is, yet the Western media keeps interviewing him, the West invites him to events like "Aspen Ideas". Surely the West has a purpose in doing this. Is it perhaps because he's so corrupt that the West "trusts" him (you can always buy his cooperation)? I have to say that I simply can not bear to listen to Musharrat (or indeed other people like him, people who are utterly disingenuous, without any true self respect), I haven't got the time or stamina. So what is the game the West is playing with Musharrat?
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Multatuli wrote:Everyone with a few working brain cells knows what an utterly contemptible liar this Masharrat is, yet the Western media keeps interviewing him, the West invites him to events like "Aspen Ideas". Surely the West has a purpose in doing this. Is it perhaps because he's so corrupt that the West "trusts" him (you can always buy his cooperation)? I have to say that I simply can not bear to listen to Musharrat (or indeed other people like him, people who are utterly disingenuous, without any true self respect), I haven't got the time or stamina. So what is the game the West is playing with Musharrat?
It is the paid lobby which allows Mushy to be 'present' in events like "Aspen Ideas". Most probably money from KSA.

Pakistan is at a cross hair now and it needs to have a plan for the future.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29th May

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Why Muslims and Chinese hate Pakistan

July 3, 2012
Rakesh Krishnan Simha

Pakistanis evoke highly negative emotions worldwide, including in Muslim majority countries, says a US survey. Not just the elites but the common Pakistani too is culpable in the country’s spectacular failure.

It has never been easy being a Pakistani. Pick a terrorist act committed anywhere in the world and chances are it has Pakistani fingerprints all over it. In many places, the word ‘Pakistani’ is a four-letter word.

So it must be a nasty kick in the guts for the Pakistanis to learn that their only allies, the Chinese, as well as the majority populations of several Muslim countries, including Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan and Lebanon, see them as a bunch of baddies.

A survey of 21 countries released on June 27, 2012 by the United States-based Pew Research Center suggests that Pakistan is not only a universally disliked country but the Pakistanis themselves have learnt nothing from their history, continuing to support the very actors who are responsible for their country’s negative image. ………………..

This is a snapshot of Pakistani society where the arrow of time is travelling backwards, taking it into a spiral of medieval madness. Where the death of a terrorist merely means he will be instantly replaced by a hundred clones.

Is it any wonder that Paki is a four-letter word?

Clicky
For those who may have somehow missed the Pew Report of June 27,2012 on the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

74% Call America an Enemy: Pakistani Public Opinion Ever More Critical of U.S.
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Acharya wrote:
Multatuli wrote:Everyone with a few working brain cells knows what an utterly contemptible liar this Masharrat is, yet the Western media keeps interviewing him, the West invites him to events like "Aspen Ideas". Surely the West has a purpose in doing this. Is it perhaps because he's so corrupt that the West "trusts" him (you can always buy his cooperation)? I have to say that I simply can not bear to listen to Musharrat (or indeed other people like him, people who are utterly disingenuous, without any true self respect), I haven't got the time or stamina. So what is the game the West is playing with Musharrat?
It is the paid lobby which allows Mushy to be 'present' in events like "Aspen Ideas". Most probably money from KSA.

Pakistan is at a cross hair now and it needs to have a plan for the future.
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Remember the mouse who could jump more than the ordinary mouse? musharrat is that mouse.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29th May

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What that Aspen interlude mean is "Mushy is the back to future for TSP!" and he has backing of some elements in US for that.

The fellow should be arrested for 911.
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Maulaners, I have a important question: Paki's consider Turks to be one of their four or five (Turks, Persians, Arabs, Afghans and Aryans (meaning white people in this case)) forefathers, and the Turks consider the Uighurs to be one of their forefathers, doesn't that make the Uighurs one of the grandfathers of Paki's?

Having established this much, why then are Paki's silent on the treatment of Uighurs by the Chinese?

Muslim states 'silent' on Uighurs

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-paci ... 98672.html

Strangers in their own Land

Beijing has branded them part of the "Bin Laden Clique," making human rights monitors worry that China is stepping up repression of its own Muslim minority. But Uighurs say things in the distant Wild West remain unchanged, meaning miserable and hopeless.

http://www.gluckman.com/UighurTerror.html

Maulaners, isn't this again a case of hypocrisy of the Pakistani Mohammedan?

Here is another case of hypocrisy:
Jhujar wrote:

As predicted, For money Sake ,Pakistani are parading their women in front of Kuffar men
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Hillary apparently said some words to Hina that the Pakis are spinning as "apology" and "yielding" by US.

Pakis are going to become even more insufferable. Watch for some nasty behavior in the foreign secretary talks in Delhi, not excluding paki "demands" relating to Jhant-all.
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I had posted some time back
Anujan wrote:Apparently Pakis are willing to reopen NATO routes. A vague apology-non apology joint statement will be issued for salala attack and atleast some of the drone attacks will be replaced by fizzleya F16 attacks (expect Pakis to demand BVR missiles to defeat taliban air force).
If you read Hillary's statement, she has said "Mrs. Clinton said the two officials agreed that mistakes were made on both sides that led to the fatal airstrike." so she has used the "There are extremists on both sides" Judo move :rotfl:

Also includes statements like “We are committed to working closely with Pakistan and Afghanistan to prevent this from ever happening again.”

So H&D saving move for Pakistan, which I am sure will be taught in all their school textbooks as a great victory over the world's sole superpower.
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open supply routes for free
Might be to loot as much as possible if NATO falls for routes exclusively thinking its all free.

Taliban already warn of attacks 'all over' etc. (link)
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http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2012/07/194502.htm
In addition, I am pleased that Foreign Minister Khar has informed me that the ground supply lines (GLOC) into Afghanistan are opening. Pakistan will continue not to charge any transit fee in the larger interest of peace and security in Afghanistan and the region.
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