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Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 26 Jun 2024 06:53
by KL Dubey
Om Birla was an excellent LS speaker last time and has the distinction of (likely) becoming speaker for a second term.

This link has a compendium of updates on the LS speaker election:

https://www.livemint.com/politics/om-bi ... 69520.html

This will be the first vote of the 18th LS. The NDA has unanimously nominated Birla, but the cracks in INDI are already showing (e.g., TMC). It will be interesting to see who votes where, which could be a pointer to the rest of the session.

The guy fielded by the congis - K Suresh - is a known joker (which explains why he gets re-elected from gods own kandry). He is most famous for laughing along with BJP MPs during Modi's jokes about Pappu/congis.

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 26 Jun 2024 08:21
by A_Gupta
KL Dubey wrote: 26 Jun 2024 06:37
A_Gupta wrote: 25 Jun 2024 23:47 The 17th Lok Sabha performed poorly.
https://prsindia.org/files/parliament/s ... _Sabha.pdf
(PDF file)
The headline is yours, correct ? Misinformation again. The PDF is informative and doesn't say anything about "poor performance".
Actually, via Ankit Avasthi, who provided the link and discussed it here in depth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gzTg3iSRn0



I'm not going to list it all out for you, but

1. First Lok Sabha not to have a deputy speaker.
2. Lowest number of sittings.
3. Significant legislation passed when 70% of the opposition was suspended and Prime Minister did not answer any questions orally and only one in writing.
4. Only 16% of bills sent to committee for scrutiny, lowest in the last 4 Lok Sabhas
etc. etc.

Why have a Parliament at all?

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 26 Jun 2024 09:59
by KL Dubey
A_Gupta wrote: 26 Jun 2024 08:21
KL Dubey wrote: 26 Jun 2024 06:37

The headline is yours, correct ? Misinformation again. The PDF is informative and doesn't say anything about "poor performance".
Actually, via Ankit Avasthi, who provided the link and discussed it here in depth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gzTg3iSRn0

I'm not going to list it all out for you, but

1. First Lok Sabha not to have a deputy speaker.
2. Lowest number of sittings.
3. Significant legislation passed when 70% of the opposition was suspended and Prime Minister did not answer any questions orally and only one in writing.
4. Only 16% of bills sent to committee for scrutiny, lowest in the last 4 Lok Sabhas
etc. etc.

Why have a Parliament at all?
This is loony stuff, from Avasthi or whoever. I guess he did not want any of the important laws to have been passed in a timely manner and instead to be tabled or sent to some committee for nitpicking and filibustering.

The parliament's job is to make laws. The opposition performed poorly, not the parliament. If the opposition did not participate constructively, that doesn't mean the government should wait another 5 years.

In case you are not aware, sending bills back to committees isn't a distinction, its a failure or a delay tactic by the opposition.

Bharatiya sansad isn't the hillbilly Kanaddian "parliament", you know. We don't observe silence for terrorists and our head of state isn't an ocean away.

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 26 Jun 2024 22:02
by A_Gupta
Parliament did not perform per historical metrics or per design. That it was mostly opposition’s fault needs to be highlighted whenever “democracy in danger” comes up. But if Parliament isn’t going to function India might as well have a China type politburo- it will be even faster. But speed is not the point. Following a democratic process is.

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 27 Jun 2024 01:44
by chetak
Sam Pitroda, who resigned over his racist remarks about Indians during Lok Sabha elections, re-appointed as chairman of the Indian Overseas Congress

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ ... 337023.ece

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 27 Jun 2024 01:58
by Vayutuvan
Mr. Pitroda probably knows far too many secrets of the Famiglia.

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 27 Jun 2024 02:00
by Vayutuvan
A_Gupta wrote: 26 Jun 2024 22:02 But speed is not the point. Following a democratic process is.
What is the "democratic process" in this situation? What is in the constitution? (Not a challenge question but seeking information).

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 27 Jun 2024 07:46
by Pratyush
A_Gupta wrote: 26 Jun 2024 22:02 Parliament did not perform per historical metrics or per design. That it was mostly opposition’s fault needs to be highlighted whenever “democracy in danger” comes up. But if Parliament isn’t going to function India might as well have a China type politburo- it will be even faster. But speed is not the point. Following a democratic process is.


No bill or law is just presented in the parliament because the government of the day wants to pass the bill on a particular day.

The process is as follows.

The draft of the bill is shared by the government with the MP along with proposed timetable. That's done to give MPs and opportunity to study the bill and decide, if they are going to vote in favour or try to introduce ammendments to the bill. Or refer it to select committee.

The success rate of the government of the day is not only a function of its ability to brutally get the bills passed in the parliament. It's also a function of the clear and precise language of the bill. That the opposition doesn't have to introduce ammendments to the bill. Or they support the bill, but they don't want to be seen supporting the bill.

Remember that all politics is performance. The staged walk outs are a part of the performance. Because the opposition doesn't want to be seen as supporting the government. So they walk out.

It's a win win.

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 27 Jun 2024 07:49
by A_Gupta
What is the first 100 + 25 days program of the Modi Sarkar?

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 27 Jun 2024 08:06
by VinodTK
A_Gupta wrote: 27 Jun 2024 07:49 What is the first 100 + 25 days program of the Modi Sarkar?

Looks like Gone With the Wind; even if one existed
because lack of majority

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 27 Jun 2024 09:54
by bala
While we discuss Modi 3.0 we need to step back and look at the bigger picture. The Deep State (Chatam house, etc.) with trillions of mollah which funds all kinds of unsavory characters around the globe, is in some quandary. Their pappu tried hard at the game, but could not make it over the hump. Now Pappu is in opposition with the Red book in hand (Indian constitution of John Dewey prof of Ambedkar, who created Mao's red book) to cause chaos in the Indian parliament and slow down Modiji and India.

The Deep state has coralled both Japan and Australia to sign on the dotted line, so that their tottering empires don't crumble, since the Deep state moved away from China manufacture. One section of the deep state faction was ready to sign onto India and do business with the petulant unmanageable entity called the BJP and Modiji. But the other hard nosed mean faced section does not want to do business without subjugating the beast. They found their match in an adroit team of EAM and Modi who can play the game at their level and this pisses them in no small measure and the SoreAsses will keep trying with their trillions. Russia is their sworn enemy and Putin needs to be gone, but then they look at a losing Ukraine and don't have all the answers.

At the geo-political level there is a complex game on Tibet-China with EAM navigating the nuances. The deep state is iching for war between China and India so that the twin beasts can be beaten down to size. Russia is in the mix. India sold brahmos to phillipines which is scaring the B'Jesus out of China.

Modi 3.0 is not a bed of roses, it is open warfare on India and we denizens need to understand the nuances at play. We don't know the outcome of the US elections but I have a feeling it will be rigged in this 2nd round too.

Aadi Achint noted these developments, highlighting intricate global relations and their implications.


Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 27 Jun 2024 15:38
by A_Gupta
If the NDA partners of the BJP were no onboard with the Modi 100+25 day program, or most of it, that does not speak well of the coalition.

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 27 Jun 2024 16:05
by KL Dubey
bala wrote: 27 Jun 2024 09:54 While we discuss Modi 3.0 we need to step back and look at the bigger picture.
Yes. Posters need to contribute something/do some digging/write something substantive, rather than just ask random "what's the program" questions.

Of course, such posters ignore the fact that 15 days of Modi sarkar have already passed and significant work has been done (I posted a link).

Here are some details of the 100-day plan for some of the ministries:

https://www.business-standard.com/polit ... 393_1.html

I'm quoting excerpts:
Agnipath scheme may be reviewed
One key discussion likely to be added to this 100-day agenda could be about the controversial Agnipath military recruitment scheme, which the non-

Defence sector’s 100-day agenda
In the defence sector, reforms in the Defence Research and Development Organisation, defence deals with friendly foreign countries under ‘Make in India’ initiative are on the cards.

Focus on internal affairs
The Ministry of Home Affairs is likely to focus on a successful completion of the assembly polls in Jammu and Kashmir. Last month, Amit Shah said that the Centre intends to complete the process before the Supreme Court deadline of September 30.

Transport ministry’s key goals for first 100-day

The Ministry of Road Transport and Highways plans to award 3,000 km of highway projects in its first 100 days in Modi’s third term, Business Standard reported earlier. It also may operationalise 700 km of high-speed corridors. Some sources said that the execution of a scheme for cashless treatment for accident victims may also be on cards.

Digital Personal Data Protection Act may be notified

The Centre may also notify rules for the Digital Personal Data Protection Act (DPDPA) and introduce an amendment to the IT rules, Business Standard had reported earlier. The deadline to send suggestions on the draft bill ended on May 15. However, several industry experts have sought further extension of this deadline due to the Lok Sabha elections.

The skill development ministry may introduce new-age courses to suit the changing industry needs as part of its first 100-day agenda.

The proposed amendments in the Special Economic Zones law may also be in the list.

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 27 Jun 2024 16:16
by KL Dubey
Pratyush wrote: 27 Jun 2024 07:46
The process is as follows....
Yes.

Posters should specify if there was some problem in the laws as written, or whether the government did not follow the due process, etc. Otherwise it's just a fishing expedition/time wasting/flame bait.

For example, the law repealing Art 370 was discussed at length in sansad despite opposition disruptions, and then several months of supreme court litigation after it became law. The SC constitutional bench could not find a defect in the law.

Finally, how dare foreign posters falsely interpret our democratic parliamentary process. This is a form of attempting foreign interference/propaganda. The mods should keep a tab on this, I am noticing significant "activism" from Kanadda walas on Bharat's internal processes.

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 27 Jun 2024 17:29
by SRajesh
^^Dubeyji
I totally agree.
The suggestion for referral to Select committee is just for filibustering or delaying tactics or More Importantly to get advice from Overseas Masters just how to dilute the bill by introducing clauses which then defeats the whole purpose of the bill.
Yes there can some bills that can loooked into closely.
Lets face its half of the lawmakers apart from signing their monickers would not be able to make head or tail of the bill let alone undertanding the legal jargon!! They rely upon their minions to explian it to them or give their emails passwords to some Yokel sitting in Teepee and smoking peace pipe to type in queries!!
And on a Lighter note I am proper Kannadiga :D and I hope you meant Kanedian Wallah!! :rotfl: :rotfl:

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 27 Jun 2024 18:06
by KL Dubey
SRajesh wrote: 27 Jun 2024 17:29 And on a Lighter note I am proper Kannadiga :D and I hope you meant Kanedian Wallah!! :rotfl: :rotfl:
Yes, Kanadda as in the land of turdwater.

As for yourself, you can be proud that USA has its first Kannada-American governor. One Kempe Byranna has been elected few years ago as governor of Georgia, adding to the two Punjabi-Americans Jindal and Randhawa.

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 27 Jun 2024 20:08
by bala
Modi Jaishankar New Foreign Policy: India Russia Sign Major Agreement

This is major since India signs with Russia a logistics agreement, including their 19+ military bases and India can use them. Tis very similar to the other 4 defence logistics agreements with USA, Australia, Japan.

Igla and AL-41 engine is being considered for India. Also in the civil nuclear field, Russia wants to increase the tie-up and increase output.



India is pursuing independent agreements with each nation, which is good. The deep state does not like this one bit and they are fuming big time.

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 27 Jun 2024 21:25
by chetak
A_Gupta wrote: 27 Jun 2024 15:38 If the NDA partners of the BJP were no onboard with the Modi 100+25 day program, or most of it, that does not speak well of the coalition.

Gupta ji,

Both guys are malsi pasand and depend on their votes, which may or may not come, but they have to keep their commitment to the jihadis because state elections make it vital for these two to dabble in sickular waters, if they are looking to strengthening their own positions in their own states and hence the need for a dominant showing in their own fiefdoms

Both have higher ambitions and are known habitual backstabbers, awaiting their main chance and that genie has been out of the bottle for a long time now

Both guys have no option but to keep their "secular" halos well burnished, just in case their current investment goes south bigtime

Damned if they do and damned if they don't ....

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 28 Jun 2024 00:50
by Amber G.
Meanwhile: UN report lauds India's Investment climate. Cites India's Business Responsibility and Sustainability Reporting initiative that makes it mandatory for businesses to promote human rights and protect the environment.
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Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 28 Jun 2024 01:43
by Vayutuvan
@KL Dubey gaaru, what does the following mean?
Business Standard wrote: Some sources said that the execution of a scheme for cashless treatment for accident victims may also be on cards.
Accident victims will be treated first. They will be billed after the treatment by the health provider, right?

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 28 Jun 2024 01:47
by Vayutuvan
KL Dubey wrote: 27 Jun 2024 16:16 I am noticing significant "activism" from Kanadda walas on Bharat's internal processes.
Some are actually in the thrall of Bidenwa. :twisted: That is bleeding into taking pot shots at Modi govt. Don't you know, right wing is on the rise across the world?!!! :P

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 28 Jun 2024 01:54
by Vayutuvan
bala wrote: 27 Jun 2024 09:54 While we discuss Modi 3.0 we need to step back and look at the bigger picture. The Deep State (Chatam house, etc.)
Some posters are don't really believe in The Deep State as per their definition of that entity. Their definition is that this entity has to have some kind of reification at least in a website of sorts. :rotfl:

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 28 Jun 2024 03:03
by chetak
Vayutuvan wrote: 28 Jun 2024 01:43 @KL Dubey gaaru, what does the following mean?
Business Standard wrote: Some sources said that the execution of a scheme for cashless treatment for accident victims may also be on cards.
Accident victims will be treated first. They will be billed after the treatment by the health provider, right?



Vayutuvan ji,

The mughal sultanate regimes of khujliwal and the dravidiyan republic in the south come to mind

soon this scheme will morph into cashfull treatment of victims of no accident.

Unless the rules and documentation requirements are made fool proof, this is the seed being sown for another serious scam in the making ....

the babooze will ensure & insure that there are enough loopholes built in and left there to be exploited

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 28 Jun 2024 05:36
by Amber G.
India’s rising visibility in the @timeshighered world rankings is remarkable, driven by Modi’s internationalisation reforms. A record 133 Indian universities have submitted to the 2025 rankings - up from 42 in 2017 - making India the 4th best represented in the world.
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Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 28 Jun 2024 05:44
by Amber G.
Picture of the day:
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Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 28 Jun 2024 06:19
by bala
Vayutuvan wrote: 28 Jun 2024 01:54 Some posters are don't really believe in The Deep State as per their definition of that entity. Their definition is that this entity has to have some kind of reification at least in a website of sorts.
Vayu Garu, the entity called the Deep State cannot be pinned to one person, website or building. These people don't figure in the Forbes wealthiest list either, but they control trillions. Money obtained by worldwide loot of resources (including India under BritshitRaj) and they run all illicit trades - colonialism, drugs, slavery, human trafficing, gambling, etc. They have their agents all over the place and the wealthy ones are roped into their schemes. Their agenda is simple, wordlwide control of money supply. Their earnings far outweigh many nation's GDP and they plough say 1-2% of their profits (just 1-2% profit runs into 100 Billions!) into causing worldwide chaos and control of leadership, money institutes and more. Most leaders of nations are under their thumb since the political class is out to make money under the table beyond the limelight and publicity. The deep state arranges for such outcomes provided they dance to their overall goal of money supply control. The returns from this strategy: heads I win, tails I win!.

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 28 Jun 2024 09:04
by Sachin
bala wrote: 28 Jun 2024 06:19 [Money obtained by worldwide loot of resources (including India under BritshitRaj) and they run all illicit trades - colonialism, drugs, slavery, human trafficing, gambling, etc. They have their agents all over the place and the wealthy ones are roped into their schemes. Their agenda is simple, wordlwide control of money supply.
Nice explanation. I am reminded of Prof. Moriarty of Sherlock Holmes stories.

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 28 Jun 2024 13:45
by A_Gupta
There are the six Cabinet decisions that I posted on June 19, reposted here, and nothing since.

https://pib.gov.in/PMContents/PMContent ... RegionId=3

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 28 Jun 2024 13:48
by A_Gupta
Chetak ji, there is potentially a lot on the economic policy, education policy, financial expansion to MSME, etc., that don’t depend on sickularism. The 25 days for youth programs also don’t depend on sickularism. I hope that in the next few weeks there will be a spate of announcements.

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 28 Jun 2024 19:42
by chetak
A_Gupta wrote: 28 Jun 2024 13:48 Chetak ji, there is potentially a lot on the economic policy, education policy, financial expansion to MSME, etc., that don’t depend on sickularism. The 25 days for youth programs also don’t depend on sickularism. I hope that in the next few weeks there will be a spate of announcements.

Gupta ji,


Let's hope that you are right.

we need to exit the colonial maze imposed on us by the departing britshits and find the way out of the minefields that were not only sown, but also tended, by the collaborating commies to perpetuate that colonial narrative that have been bogging us, and dragging us down for past several tens of decades

we naively trusted the wrong people and foolishly compounded that grievous error by repeatedly voting to keep those traitorous crooks in power

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 28 Jun 2024 20:05
by Hriday
The three most exciting programs for Modi 3.0 that can happen in the near future are
1. 6-month window for the Rajya Sabha majority from now to pass major reforms that require constitutional amendments as Amber G. pointed out earlier.
2. Nitin Gadkari's announcement of phasing out of petrol, diesel vehicles by 2034.
3. Modi's statement that RBI officers will have heavy duty work soon after the third term for BJP govt.

Anything else that is as spectacular as above?

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 29 Jun 2024 04:05
by A_Gupta
“ According to sources, Finance Minister Nirmala Sitharaman will present the full Budget for FY25 on July 23 or 24, coinciding with the Monsoon Session of the Parliament.”

— something to look forward to.

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 29 Jun 2024 05:42
by A_Gupta
This is at the Reasi railway station in Jammu. I am posting it here because of the initial minutes - the smiles of accomplishment. Everyday in some or other district of India may this be repeated for some significant achievement.

https://youtu.be/952Lgt32YvI?si=3ADsRmrry8lVf0By

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 29 Jun 2024 07:28
by Vayutuvan
Hriday wrote: 28 Jun 2024 20:05 ...
2. Nitin Gadkari's announcement of phasing out of petrol, diesel vehicles by 2034.
...
Anything else that is as spectacular as above?
That is not well-thought out. It is going to be a spectacular failure. Gadkari is dreaming.

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 29 Jun 2024 07:50
by NRao
Vayutuvan wrote: 29 Jun 2024 07:28
Hriday wrote: 28 Jun 2024 20:05 ...
2. Nitin Gadkari's announcement of phasing out of petrol, diesel vehicles by 2034.
...
Anything else that is as spectacular as above?
That is not well-thought out. It is going to be a spectacular failure. Gadkari is dreaming.
FYI
Gadkari expressed confidence, stating, "One hundred per cent. It is difficult but not impossible. This is my vision," he told PTI

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 29 Jun 2024 08:55
by A Deshmukh
Vayutuvan wrote: 29 Jun 2024 07:28 That is not well-thought out.
+1
We need to diversify. petrol, electric vehicles, hydrogen, ethanol blends.
100% elimination will mean dependency on another technology - particularly when we have no control over Li mines nor are we pioneers in battery tech.

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 29 Jun 2024 09:04
by Amber G.
Meanwhile: Modi congratulates António Costa for becoming the president of the European Council. Costa, Fmr PM of Portugal, is of Indian Heritage & traces his ancestry to Goa from his father's side. He is an OCI card holder (and travel visa free travel to 🇮🇳 :)
https://x.com/narendramodi/status/1806698271508664812

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 29 Jun 2024 10:38
by hanumadu
Vayutuvan wrote: 29 Jun 2024 07:28
Hriday wrote: 28 Jun 2024 20:05 ...
2. Nitin Gadkari's announcement of phasing out of petrol, diesel vehicles by 2034.
...
Anything else that is as spectacular as above?
That is not well-thought out. It is going to be a spectacular failure. Gadkari is dreaming.
These type of statements can be used to keep oil producing countries and oil prices in check. He issued a similar statement earlier saying that India will have 100% electric vehicles by 2030 and then scaled them down to 30%. It will happen when it will happen, IMO

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 29 Jun 2024 11:16
by A_Gupta
"Last month, Nitin Gadkari proposed cuts in the taxes on hybrid cars to promote their growth. He stated that the 43% (28% GST + Cess) on hybrids is quite unfair as hybrids, though not as clean as EVs, are better than ICE engines in this aspect. Going further, he urged the finance minister to discuss this issue at the next GST council meeting. Nitin Gadkari Ji wants GST to be reduced to 12% as it will help make hybrid cars more affordable."

Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Posted: 29 Jun 2024 12:47
by Hriday
Hriday wrote: 28 Jun 2024 20:05 The three most exciting programs for Modi 3.0 that can happen in the near future are
1. 6-month window for the Rajya Sabha majority from now to pass major reforms that require constitutional amendments as Amber G. pointed out earlier.
2. Nitin Gadkari's announcement of phasing out of petrol, diesel vehicles by 2034.
3. Modi's statement that RBI officers will have heavy duty work soon after the third term for BJP govt.

Anything else that is as spectacular as above?
Few more..
4. Zero electricity bill with PM Surya Ghar Yojana.

5. Piped gas to every house as stated in the BJP manifesto.

If anyone knows the rest please state it.

These are not only spectacular but the common man sees the benefits directly. Dhruv Rathee is now attacking the mega infrastructure projects including highways saying they are for the few upper middle class people. Now that house, toilet, water, and electricity connections are nearing completion in this term what will be the next projects?

Saw suggestions that the BJP needs to adopt Shivraj Singh Chauhan's model of direct money transfer, especially in the context of the coming UP elections. Is that a sound economic policy?

Deans pointed out here that with a very low agriculture growth rate, you can't win elections continuously.