Sorry but couldn't notice this anger of his...where the Prime Minister was this upset over Pakistan.
The Sangh has overruled the objections raised against Gadkari by L.K. Advani and Murli Manohar Joshi, saying the financial allegations against his company were levelled by a media lobby they suspected was “put up” by Gadkari’s BJP rivals.
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As the Advani era that had reached its zenith during the Ayodhya movement of the late ’80s and early ’90s appears set to end, the only BJP leader who now seems to “matter” to the Sangh is Modi, a BJP source said.
Armed with Modi’s consent, Sangh chief Mohanrao Bhagwat and his team are confident of seeing Gadkari through.
All eyes will be on the organisational revamp Gadkari effects after his election. What’s of immediate interest is whether he inducts Modi into the central parliamentary board and central election committee, the party’s highest policy and decision-making panels.
If he does, it will signal the beginning of Modi’s shift from Gandhinagar to Delhi to assume the mantle of party leadership in 2014.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130121/j ... PyCmh0Tg44
vishvak wrote:Some tidbits from a seminar organized by "Samagra Vikasa Trust" per link
Arun jeitly and Ravi Shankar Prasad in a twitter meet in Bangaluru
linklink"In twitter there is an element of political unilateralism but it is not preferred in political collectivism" - A Jaitely #twittermeetlink".. Using a grp of ultra-leftist economists European socialist model is wht Mrs. Gandhi wanted to follow .." - A Jaitely #twittermeetlink"Congress is a crowd arnd the family..In name f reform thy carried out big ticket exhibitionism & in prcess Ind sufferd" - AJ #twittermeetlink"... European socialist model what Mrs. Gandhi wanted to follow " (read sarcasm) -link" .. retail in India was always community centric .." - Arun Jaitley #twittermeetlink.reforms cant be wht Americans decide as reforms..but v accept thr definition of refrms & our pink papers propogate themlink..Howvr thr is only good job creation in Srvcs but not mass job creation. Mass job creation only in manufacturinglink..Global econmy moving twrds low cost economy.. Demographic dividend is most misused termlink..to tackle this -substitute discretion completely with stated public policy or auctions ..link" .. and SEND A LOT MORE PEOPLE TO JAIL .. shake the conscious of society ..good for country .."link"..two of India's biggest success stories - Telecom & Highways - both slowed down becos of corruption"link..the whole concept of Swadeshi is you must do what suits your national economy .. "link..u see Pakistan has 3 clear thngs - u hav the military & ISI, the civillian govt & the Terrorist (applause)..linku r dealin wth rogue state..negotiatin space is vry limitd&complusions of Pak poltcs wl not allw resolution of issuelink..at such positioning & various optns, redlines as use the word mst all b avlble ..China I think is more serious prblmlinku r dealin wth rogue state..negotiatin space is vry limitd&complusions of Pak poltcs wl not allw resolution of issuelinkArun Jaitley : The Chinese think that they've arrived. So they keep the Arunachal issue alivelinkArun Jaitley : A law is not like a wine that if it's old, it becomes tastierArun Jaitley : In democracy, governance is a serious policy
linklinkArun Jaitley : The real worth of Indian democracy will not be realised unless we get rid of dynasties.linkRavi Shankar Prasad : Shinde's only claim to fame is Soniaji has appointed a Dalit leader as country's Home MinisterlinkRavi Shankar Prasad : Legacy of UPA is a suffering India and an insecure India.linkRavi Shankar Prasad : Growth rate of Karnataka under the BJP Government is 8.5%Wordings can differ with person so better to look at ideas even if this looks like direct quote. These are parts of views from opposition party which gets no media space in democracy, while the ruling party gets most of media space even in debates.Ravi Shankar Prasad : Do not be too much worried about MSM. Had MSM been important, NaMo would never have won any elections.
urban india will still vote for kangress. I saw this in my family yesterday it self. With people saying give RG a chance in 14.Arjun wrote:Urban India will definitely vote for a leader who is self-made...Rahul's hopes lie with the great unwashed masses.
Arjun ji, as pointed out by Muppalla bhai, the long term trend is definitely downward for Kongis and their acolytes. I did risk my neck in the Predictions thread to state that Rahul will never be the PM. But then Kongis do not have to get into the power themselves they have new Jinnahs to do their bidding for them. And Kongis have learnt from the masters of dogalebazzi. Kongis already have successfully controlled the third front types both by propping them up and acting from behind the scenes and by blackmailing them to keep themselves in power.Arjun wrote: I don't discount that a lot of smart campaigning needs to be put in...Urban India went largely with Congress in last Lok Sabha elections - but the situation now I think is more conducive to Modi than to the Dynasty.
Lets wait to see what the independent surveys say in a few months....they usually nowadays sample across the class divide. They were not off the mark in Gujarat.
Share exact tweet please. Meanwhile I am amused to note that the same people who were bad mouthing Gadakari a while back as a supporter of the mythical D4 are now pitting them against him.Sushupti wrote:Who could be these " rivals" in BJP?. Prof Vaidya tweeted that Sangha's insistence for Gadkari is only to dis-empower D4.
ravi_g, to the best of my knowledge, Gadakari is the epitome of the organizational man, platoon before self, company before platoon etc. His turn around of Nashik as corporater (?) is legendary (some stuff you wont hear) --> a very nuts and bolts person, and completely "communal" and "capitalistic" to boot.ravi_g wrote:Sanku ji, correct me if I am wrong, Gadkari bhaiji came in only because nobody wanted the then central leadership to mess up things with their personal competition.
Interesting, RG causes stirrings in Shashi Tharoor and it takes a 50 cr. girlfriend to quieten it.Sushupti wrote:
Just to clarify that (i don't know which post you have in your mind) i don't agree with the Goel and his group's (Ram Swarup, Elst etc) criticism of Sangh for lack of intellectualism. Infact i agree with your observation on Sangha regarding building organization and rest will follow automatically approach. My problem is with sleeper cell elements in BJP. I wouldn't have agreed with Goel even on Windbag if i hadn't come across many empirical data and insiders telling their experiences. For example: Goel talks about Windbag enjoying company of communists more than his own partymen (in 70s) and ex-commie Sudheendra Kulkarni acting as speech writer and strategist(in 2000s).Sanku wrote:ravi_g, to the best of my knowledge, Gadakari is the epitome of the organizational man, platoon before self, company before platoon etc. His turn around of Nashik as corporater (?) is legendary (some stuff you wont hear) --> a very nuts and bolts person, and completely "communal" and "capitalistic" to boot.ravi_g wrote:Sanku ji, correct me if I am wrong, Gadkari bhaiji came in only because nobody wanted the then central leadership to mess up things with their personal competition.
RSS needed some one like that for the organizational building that BJP sorely needed, the 1999 wins were frankly "luck", BJP as a organization was in no shape to actually contest and manage a country wide op at that point of time. A combination of RJM and congress not being its most venal self, took BJP to national power.
However to be consistently present, they have to do a lot of nitty gritty work (Kkta for example is only half Sangh, the rest half of the org is poached from JDS/Congress etc)
Gadakari was brought in as some one who can do this -- Also as has been posted by others before (sushupti posted S R Goels commenting on it in a negative way) -- RSS and the Sangh are obsessed with the organization, they think that the ideology will win if they can build a strong organization like they want. For them, those values take precedence over other skills.
Narayana Rao wrote: They need to think it thourgh and I am afraid they may not have till 2014 and elections may be after March 2013 budget.
I am referring to a post from S R Goel's book on his experiences where he says that the Sangh is obsessed with organization and he thinks that it is stupid.Sushupti wrote: Just to clarify that (i don't know which post you have in your mind)
ravi_g wrote: What I have noticed is that you tend to believe that Gadkari has not got a fair chance.
ravi_g, interesting. My handle was chosen for the Sanskrit sanku (as in tri-sanku, something I get to hear from Mahdi all the time 
)Big deal. I already know what I am, I want to know what they are.Sushupti wrote:...For example: Goel talks about Windbag enjoying company of communists more than his own partymen (in 70s) and ex-commie Sudheendra Kulkarni acting as speech writer and strategist(in 2000s).
BJP leaders including party president Nitin Gadkari, Varun Gandhi, Murli Manohar Joshi, Kalraj Mishra, Rajnath Singh and many others will be seen at the rally today. The party leaders will blow the poll bugle for the 2014 Lok Sabha elections .
Uma Bharti has networked with Gadkari to bring back Kalyan Singh and cement the one-time OBC vote bank with the larger Hindutva support base.
Why all of sudden so much of attention on these two secular brothers?.MIM chief Asaduddin Owaisi surrenders in 2005 case
http://zeenews.india.com/news/andhra-pr ... 24178.html
. Remember how the agitation over the township in Noida was used by one of Maya's own people. But unlike him Sangh should avoid disturbing the residential areas. But the Dehati people have a lot of time in their hands. Somebody has got to figure out a way to use that fruitfully.sum wrote:As expected, honarary PA to RG, Sheela Bhatt, brings in Madam Priyanka to show how it was a family show:
Exclusive: Priyanka tweaked Rahul's speech
Standing ovation for this moving family drama!!ahul Gandhi's speech on Sunday moved the scores of Congress leaders present at the party's Chintan Shivir on Sunday and startled even hardened members of the media.
But what most people don't know is that the emotional flourishes and notes, the memories about Rahul's father Rajiv Gandhi [ Images ] and grandmother Indira Gandhi [ Images ], the point about his mother Sonia coming into his room late on Saturday night and weeping, in the speech were added by his sister Priyanka Gandhi [ Images ].
It was Priyanka who inspired Rahul and tweaked his speech. Rahul is known to use Priyanka as his sounding board before he makes important speeches and Sunday was no different.
Priyanka flew into Jaipur [ Images ] on Sunday and was closeted with her brother in a room on the first floor of the Birla Auditorium where the Chintan Shivir was held this weekend.
Both brother and sister then worked on the speech through the day, burnishing it till it shone and was sure to make the impact it did finally.
Priyanka was anxious not to be seen by the media and wanted to leave as soon as she could. A request was then made to Congress leaders to trim their speeches, so that Rahul could deliver his speech.
No sooner had Rahul delivered the last line in his speech, an address which received a standing ovation, its emotional architect had left the venue for Jaipur airport, on the way home to her family.
. Besides yes Kalyan has some voters spreadout but they are there under the radar. Kalyan is a good addition but not the key.BJP’s nationwide protest over Shinde remarks
Posted on: 21 Jan 2013, 04:10 PM
http://post.jagran.com/bjps-nationwide- ... 1358764598
Ravi ji, I think you are implying that Modi needs to get into some major wheeling-dealing...would agree he needs to do what it takes - but I think we also need to be conscious of redlines. If the nature of wheeling-dealing requires him to dilute Moditva, then I think it is reasonable to pause and step back and ask whether it is ideology or winning that is more important at this stage.ravi_g wrote:Basically I am with you on the opportunities part but not on the executions part. NM for example can talk to the state satraps where BJP is setting itself up for a loss and sell some of his own ideation in cooperation with like minded leaders in Sangh.
Winning is the most important thing and everything is secondary. Ideology does not bring wins but only acts as catalysts. After winning, you can implement the ideology. Otherwise another generation losesArjun wrote:Ravi ji, I think you are implying that Modi needs to get into some major wheeling-dealing...would agree he needs to do what it takes - but I think we also need to be conscious of redlines. If the nature of wheeling-dealing requires him to dilute Moditva, then I think it is reasonable to pause and step back and ask whether it is ideology or winning that is more important at this stage.ravi_g wrote:Basically I am with you on the opportunities part but not on the executions part. NM for example can talk to the state satraps where BJP is setting itself up for a loss and sell some of his own ideation in cooperation with like minded leaders in Sangh.
There were some similar thoughts expressed I think by Yogendra and others on the Modi thread a few weeks back.
Following the incident of rape in Delhi, which left a 23-year-old physiotherapy student dead, the struggle for women’s rights and safety has gathered momentum in the country. While one would like to think that women across the country echo the same feelings and are probably equally restless about the patriarchal structure around which they have to arrange their lives, the RSS women’s wing seems to be a study in contradictions.
Participants in a camp organised by the RSS women’s wing. AFP.
One one hand they encourage women to come out of their homes to join a political organisation and organise camps to encourage sports on the other hand they keep reiterating that a woman’s primary duty is towards her family and its well-being.
An Outlook article by Neha Dixit, explores the amusing mechanisms within the women’s section of the party, called the Rashtra Sevika Samiti.
The article traces how the pracharikas or the workers of the group take pride in the fact that they are not backing or demanding women’s rights. Rather, they seem to be content with the fact that they are working towards the creation of a ‘Hindu’ nation. The women’s wing, which has close to 55,000 branches across the country also seem skeptical of the feminist movements working their way against patriarchal domination in the country.
Gandhi should have been holding Nehru in the above cartoon...Sushupti wrote:
Arjun wrote:ravi_g wrote:Ravi ji, I think you are implying that Modi needs to get into some major wheeling-dealing...would agree he needs to do what it takes - but I think we also need to be conscious of redlines. If the nature of wheeling-dealing requires him to dilute Moditva, then I think it is reasonable to pause and step back and ask whether it is ideology or winning that is more important at this stage.
There were some similar thoughts expressed I think by Yogendra and others on the Modi thread a few weeks back.
