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RCase wrote: 08 Jun 2024 07:28 Does CISF have a court martial process? It is despicable for a person in uniform to conduct themselves like this. She is deserving of the harshest punishment.
May be not court martial, as CISF is not a military force. But there would be the Punishment Rules (under the relevant CRPF Act), which explains the procedure and the punishments. Dismissal is for the worst cases, but reduction in rank, loss of increment (cumulative & non cumulative) etc are all available.
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I don't think I've seen a bigger difference between expert/world opinion of a cabinet minister's performance and the common public's as it is for Nirmala Sitharaman.

Overall India's fiscal policies have been highly regarded and successful in both maintaing growth trajectory, controlling fiscal deficit and not going overboard on post covid money printing however from some statements and hard control over freebies and tax benefits the public seems to have completely alienated her,

Now that would have been fine in a 350+ BJP but now.... Who knows


Compare that to Gadkari who has done a similarly good job but is extremely popular due to his more affable speeches and pro common man talk ( Even though highway and expressway tolls have risen sharply)
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Sachin wrote: 09 Jun 2024 20:01 ...
May be not court martial, as CISF is not a military force. But there would be the Punishment Rules (under the relevant CRPF Act), which explains the procedure and the punishments. Dismissal is for the worst cases, but reduction in rank, loss of increment (cumulative & non cumulative) etc are all available.
The CYA has begun

Kulwinder apologetic, realises damage to CISF, says DIG
A day after the slapping incident involving Mandi MP Kangana Ranaut and CISF constable Kulwinder Kaur at SBSI Airport, Chandigarh, the CISF top officer Vinay Kajla, who is the DIG, CISF, Airports (North Sector), said, “Kulwinder acted due to rush of blood, remembering the statements made by the MP in the past. Kulwinder is apologetic now. She now realises the extent of damage she has done to the organisation.”
Madam has perhaps realised the loss of pension might happen. All the worthies may give her a few lakhs for now but her sarkaari job is likely toast.

Then of course there is the saviour of democracy, social justice, gender equality,... and expert on all things under the sun to which she can appeal. That institution is answerable to no one except itself.
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Sambuka was not killed for being a "low caste man" . Just like Ravana wass not killed for being a Brahmin. Caste did not matter here, but actions did.

But Amberdkarites are hell bent on putting a caste lens to everything. This is one of the things that should be strictly dealt with, if we want to to strengthen unity among Indians
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AkshaySG wrote: 09 Jun 2024 20:50 I don't think I've seen a bigger difference between expert/world opinion of a cabinet minister's performance and the common public's as it is for Nirmala Sitharaman.

Overall India's fiscal policies have been highly regarded and successful in both maintaing growth trajectory, controlling fiscal deficit and not going overboard on post covid money printing however from some statements and hard control over freebies and tax benefits the public seems to have completely alienated her,

Now that would have been fine in a 350+ BJP but now.... Who knows


Compare that to Gadkari who has done a similarly good job but is extremely popular due to his more affable speeches and pro common man talk ( Even though highway and expressway tolls have risen sharply)

AkshaySG ji,


What hurt the MCPs the most was the fact that not only did she not succumb to their bullying but she also gave it back to them

She worked to a strict financial plan that was already known to all the states which still made outrageous demands and she made no exceptions because the circumstances permitted no deviations because well managed states would have suffered for their efficiency, while the badly mismanaged states would have been rewarded for their wanton profligacy

She always did the right thing and that mostly hurt the woke commie thugs the most

and now, she's back again 8)
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BIG disclosure by DIG of CISF investigating Kangana Ranaut assault case, exposes propaganda of confrontation during frisking

-Constable came out of an adjacent frisking booth intentionally to the MP. She acted against the ethos & core values of Force
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Curious Case of Western Deep State and The Indian Elections




Commander Sandeep Dhawan (Veteran)
JUNE 9, 2024

Disclaimer: This article is in no way trying to absolve the present dispensation of any social mistake or administrative overreach they have displayed during their tenure but to demonstrate how vulnerable India or any democratic nation is while dealing with the deep state. This article cannot be reproduced in any form without written approval from the writer.

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Coming 15 June would mark the fourth anniversary of the Galwan Valley backstabbing by China. That date is significant because not only did the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) get humiliated and lose a significant number of soldiers, but the Galwan Valley clash also accelerated many dormant border infrastructure projects in India, infuriating China. On the other hand, the Western deep state was unable to digest India’s improved relationships with major powers in the West, the Middle East, East, and Southeast Asia. Both China and the Western deep state saw India’s rise as a major world power and the promise of the world’s leading GDP contributor, as a threat to their agendas. Sabotaging the Indian general elections was the only way to stop the unstoppable India.

The Story Begins

Soon after the colossal loss in the general elections, in 2015 Indian National Congress (INC) Vice President Rahul Gandhi went away to Southeast Asia for 60 days. He was mocked by the Bhartiya Janta Party (BJP) for running away from the election loss. It was an immature assumption. While away, most significant parts of his stays were spent in two China-friendly countries, Myanmar — 21 days and Cambodia — 11 days.

Myanmar is completely under the Chinese grip while in Cambodia they threw out the United States (US) military proving the mettle of Chinese influence in the region. There is no record of who Rahul Gandhi was meeting and discussing with, in those countries. Despite being an SPG (Special Protection Group) protectee he allowed the SPG to accompany him only to Bangkok. This further proves that INC didn’t want his schedule and activities to be disclosed through any source.

In June 2015 he visited the United Kingdom (UK) and in September 2015 the US and the UK. In June 2016 he visited Turkey and in September 2016 once again the UK. In March 2017 he visited Italy and in July 2017 the UK. Between 2015 to 2019 Rahul Gandhi made 257 trips to foreign lands while the IT cells of BJP were busy making memes and videos to make him look unfit for Prime Ministership. Even his mother Mrs. Sonia Gandhi made 27 foreign trips to undisclosed destinations during the same period. Modus Operandi was similar, SPG was notified just 5-6 hours before the departure making it impossible for them to provide the cover.

However, finally, the Indian security agencies got alarmed when Rahul Gandhi met with Chinese envoy Luo Zhaohui in July 2017, forcing the BJP to question his intentions. What was their matter of discussion? This meeting took place at the peak of the India-China Doklam standoff. Soon thereafter Rahul Gandhi met the Bhutanese envoy. What did he convey to him is anyone’s guess?

In March 2023 Rahul Gandhi visited the UK and launched a vicious attack on the BJP. He also urged the US and the UK to intervene in restoring democracy in India. He spoke with students from the University of Cambridge and held meetings at the Grand Committee Room of the House of Commons painting India in a bad light. This infuriated the ruling party in India. On the contrary, after getting thrown out of power Rahul Gandhi’s grandmother and India’s former prime minister, Indira Gandhi also visited the UK in November 1978. She was frustrated but remained much more responsible and avoided painting India in a bad light in a foreign land.

In May 2023 Rahul Gandhi once again visited the US. In September 2023 he visited the European Union’s headquarters in Brussels followed by France and Norway. In October 2023 he visited Uzbekistan. Even in December 2023, just months before the general elections Rahul Gandhi was planning to visit Brunei, Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia, and Vietnam. The trip was canceled at the last moment, but the question remains, what was the urgency?

The Narrative Building

The above-mentioned hundreds of foreign jaunts were not all public gatherings. Rather, most of them were closed-door meetings. Every visit was followed by a barrage of anti-India articles across the world but especially in the West. Articles with similar agenda:

“Will the outcome of India’s election increase intolerance” – Deutsche Welle

“Modification of India is almost complete” – TIME Magazine

“India’s election: fixing a win by outlawing dissent damages democracy” – UK Guardian

“Is India’s BJP the world’s most ruthlessly efficient political party?” – Financial Times

“Narendra Modi Is Preparing New Attacks on Democratic Rights” – Jacobin Magazine

“With democracy under threat in Narendra Modi’s India, how free and fair will this year’s election be?” – The Conversation, Australian Research Council

“Progressive South Is Rejecting Modi” – Bloomberg

“Billionaire Raj Is Pushing India Toward Autocracy” – Bloomberg

“India’s Voting Machines Are Raising Too Many Questions” – Bloomberg

“Modi’s Sledgehammer Politics Are Battering Indian Democracy” – Bloomberg

“The ‘mother of democracy’ is not in good shape” – Financial Times

“Modi’s Temple of Lies” – New York Times

After Rahul Gandhi’s March 2023 visit to the UK, the BBC came out with a documentary where it was depicted as if there was a Muslim genocide taking place in India. The documentary referred to the Gujarat riots that took place 21 years ago and had no relevance to the present governance. The frustrated government, unable to stop such anti-India propaganda made the cardinal sin of sending Central agencies to investigate the BBC India offices, adding fuel to the fire.

Foreign media understands the fault lines in Indian society. Therefore, exploiting the history of communal riots and division in society in India was a soft target. While at the topic, let us have a look at the exploitation of this fault line by the British colonizers. Following is a comprehensive list of riots under the British Raj: Mumbai 1832, Mumbai 1851, Broach & Mumbai 1857, 1874, Salem 1882, Peshawar 1910, Shahabad 1917, Saharanpur 1918, Malabar 1920-21, Bengal, Punjab, Multan 1921-22, Kohat 1924, North India 1924-25, Kolkata, Mumbai, Gujarat 1925-26, Delhi, Bengal, Mumbai 1926-27, North India 1927-28, Nagpur 1927, Mumbai & Punjab 1928-29, Mumbai 1929-30, Bengal & Mumbai 1930-31, Kanpur 1931-32, Varanasi, Kanpur, Lahore 1933-34, Firozabad 1936, Panipat 1936, Varanasi & Kanpur 1939, and Bengal 1946.

Out of the above-mentioned list most disturbing was the Malabar rebellion of 1920-21, where the forcible Hindu conversion and genocide took place. The genocide killed over ten thousand, displaced over a lakh while hundreds of women were raped. From the above, it is also evident that there was nonstop communal tension in India and the British Raj was the sole benefactor of those riots.

In independent India under the Congress government, over ten major communal riots took place. Ahmedabad 1969 (512 deaths), Jalgaon 1970 (100), Moradabad 1980 (1500), Bhiwandi 1984 (146), Delhi 1984 (2733), Ahmedabad 1985 (300), Bhagalpur 1989 (1161), Delhi 1990 (100), Hyderabad 1990 (365), Surat 1992 (152), and Mumbai 1993 (872). Three major disturbances took place under the President’s rule while the Congress party was ruling at the center — Assam 1983 (1819), Kanpur 1992 (254), and Bhopal 1992 (143).

Compared to this under BJP’s ten-year rule, only the Northeast Delhi riots took place in 2020 when US President Donald Trump was visiting India. 54 people lost lives in the anti-CAA (Citizenship Amendment Act) protests-related riots. Who instigated those riots during a foreign dignitary’s visit is another topic altogether. However, this allowed the Western media to publish a barrage of articles on how under the fascist Indian government humanity was under threat.

However, the same publications were mum on Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, and Oman, who never accept any refugees. They were mum on the role of Poland, Hungary, and the Czech Republic who outright refused asylum seekers on the grounds of threat to law and order. They were mum on China where state-sponsored genocide was taking place in Tibet and Xinjiang, under the guise of re-education. The media refused to talk about how in 2023 Australians had roundly rejected greater rights for Indigenous citizens and in New Zealand how 180 years old dozen policies that provide for Māori were under threat. Above all none of the publications talked about the genocide of Indigenous people of Canada.

The Great Game

While the term ‘Great Game’ was coined by a British Indian Army officer focusing on the British and Russian rivalry in the 20th century, the rise of India has renewed focus on this term. The coming decades would see rising competition between the West, India, and China. China being a dictatorship could physically insulate itself from the external world using harsh national security laws. The Great Firewall of China isolates its populace from the influence of external media inputs. That leaves India, a democracy and an open society, vulnerable to attacks from the vested interests in the West and China.

But why India? After all magazines like German ‘Der Spiegel’ paint India as overcrowded and underdeveloped. The reason is economic. As per the World Economic Forum, India could be the world’s third-largest economy anytime between 2027-29. A Bloomberg study reveals that India could become the world’s number-one GDP contributor as early as 2028, overtaking China. With 142.86 crore population India is also the world’s most populous country and a huge market for western goods. As the developed world’s population is shrinking, India would be the world’s leading source of skilled and disciplined manpower. Therefore, an amenable, malleable, and inexperienced leader in India would be an ideal candidate to further the Western agenda.

This aspect was very well summarized by the late former President of India Pranab Mukherjee’s daughter Sharmistha Mukherjee in her book ‘Pranab, My Father’. In the book, she states how her father was disappointed in Rahul Gandhi. He found Rahul incapable of running the Prime Minister’s office (PMO), anytime soon. He wanted Rahul to join the cabinet and gain experience in governance. But his advice was ignored.

Therefore, Rahul Gandhi, or a person of similar capabilities becomes the most suitable candidate to take forward the Western agenda. This becomes the sole reason behind foreign governments and organizations jumping into the fray to present a distorted image of India to the world and an avalanche of propaganda within India.

The Europe-based Disinfo Lab has published an 85-page analysis of foreign influence in the Indian general elections 2024 — The Invisible Hand. Among many the report blames two organizations and one individual in particular for peddling a specific narrative — the US-based Henry Luce Foundation (HLF), George Soros’ Open Society Foundation (OSF), and the French Indologist and political scientist Christophe Jaffrelot. As per the report, the propaganda peaked in the six months leading up to the 44-day-long general elections.

It is no surprise that Christophe Jaffrelot’s brainchild ‘Caste Census’ in India was part of the Congress Party’s election manifesto. Both Congress and Christophe Jaffrelot exploited the fault lines in the Indian society and Indians fell for it. Christophe Jaffrelot’s other project was ‘Muslims in a Time of Hindu Majoritarianism’. In addition to others, Christophe Jaffrelot was being funded by HLF.

HLF also funded many other anti-India projects to paint India in a bad light — ‘Hindu Nationalism: From Ethnic Identity to Authoritarian Repression’, ‘Religion, Citizenship, and Belonging in India’, ‘Religion-as-Ethnicity and the Emerging Hindu Vote in India’, are some of their funded anti-India projects. Among many anti-India writers California-based activists Angana P. Chatterji and Rutgers academic Audrey Truschke are prominent in spreading the anti-India narrative and are funded by HLF.

Billionaire George Soros’ OSF also funded many anti-India foundations and individuals. Prominent among them are Canadian activist Ricken Patel’s Namati Foundation and Delhi-based Centre for Policy Research (CPR) in addition to the usual culprit Christophe Jaffrelot.

It Is Not Over Yet

After the BJP’s subpower performance in the general elections, the Chinese media professional Hu Xijin commented on the diminished powers of the Indian Prime Minister — “Indian Prime Minister claimed victory for the third term, but it seems more like a loss. Once Modi becomes weak, Washington may assess his long-term value. The election marks a turning point for Modi from strong to weak”.

To an untrained eye, it might look like a statement of jubilation, but in reality, this statement displays frustration and disappointment over the partly successful attempt. After all, billions were spent to create an anti-India and anti-Modi narrative.

Most suitable way to bring in illicit funds into India is using the hawala route. Another effective method is donations to legitimate but unscrupulous entities in India by multinational companies. As per an estimate, a decade ago Indian exchequer was losing over ₹10 lakh crore every year due to Hawala. Today the amount in question would be much bigger. These funds are used to spread civil unrest, to aid terrorism, or to disrupt elections. The disturbed peace in Northeast India and Punjab in the recent past was part of this game plan. But the big question is would India be lucky the next time?

In the era of the internet, social media, and deep fakes, going forward would be tough. If India doesn’t safeguard itself from these visible internal and invisible external forces today, a new wave of colonization is not a distant reality.


https://insightful.co.in/2024/06/09/cur ... elections/
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Any idea of the Portfolios
And Chatakji you called it right : no major changes in the cabinet at the top decsion making body AS, Rajnath, Jaishankar, Nirmala, Piyush, Ashwini are all back
NaMo is not backing off regardless of the coalition.
Carl Gustav's will roar again regardless of the BIF's antic.
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No shuffling in top cabinet posts either
AS back as Home Minister, Rajnath Singh keeps defence, Gadkari keeps Roads and Hwy, Nirmala S keeps finance, Jaishankar as FM

Shivraj SC now Minister of Agriculture and Kissan Kalyan, TDP gets Civil Aviation, Chirag Paswan gets Sports and Youth

https://x.com/ShivAroor/status/1800162881809285202
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CCS - Remains same

Mansukh Mandaviya - Sport, Labor
Nadda - Health
Scindia - Telecom
CR Patil - Jal sakti
Dharmendra Pradhan - HRD
Shivraj Singh Chouhan - Agri, Rural Development
Piyush Goyal - Commerce
Ashwini - Railways and I&B
Jitan Ram Manjhi - MSME
Giriraj - Textile
Prahalad Joshi - Food & Consumer Affairs
Bhupendra Yadav - Environment
HD Kumaraswamy - Heavy Industry & Steel
Sonowal - Port, Shipping
Chirag Paswan - Food Processing

-Ankit
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MP Amit Shah has retained the Home Ministry

Lucknow MP Rajnath Singh is set to return as the Defence Minister

Senior BJP leader and Nagpur MP Nitin Gadkari has retained the Ministry for Road Transport & Highways.

Former Railways Minister Ashwini Vaishnaw will return in the newly formed NDA government as the Information and Broadcasting Minister, a position previously held by Hamirpur MP Anurag Singh Thakur.

Former Madhya Pradesh chief minister Shivraj Singh Chouhan will be the new Agriculture minister

Ex-Haryana CM Manohar Lal Khattar will now head the Ministry of Power.

Senior BJP leaders C R Paatil and Dharmendra Pradhan will head the Jal Shakti and Education ministries respectively.

Lok Janshakti Party (Ram Vilas) chief Chirag Paswan is all set to become the new Minister of Youth Affairs and Sports.

anata Dal (Secular) leader and former Karnataka CM H D Kumaraswamy will head the Ministry of Steel

Telugu Desam Party’s Kinjarapu Ram Mohan Naidu will be the new Civil Aviation minister, a post previously held by Jyotiraditya Scindia.

Ravneet Singh Bittu, who lost the Ludhiana seat in the Lok Sabha elections, will head the Ministry of Minority Affairs.

Former Earth Sciences Minister Kiren Rijiju will now be in charge of the Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs.

Jodhpur MP Gajendra Singh Shekhawat will now be the Minister of Culture and Tourism,

BJP national president J P Nadda will head the Ministry of Health.

Annapurna Devi, one of the two women Cabinet Ministers, will head the Ministry of Women and Child Development.
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Not too happy with Rajnath Singh continuing as DM. We need a change at this ministry in order to accelerate the reforms and push harder for indigenous products.
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hgupta wrote: 10 Jun 2024 19:58 Not too happy with Rajnath Singh continuing as DM. We need a change at this ministry in order to accelerate the reforms and push harder for indigenous products.
Rajnath Singh will remain till some of the carry over programs from the previous administration are complete.

Reforms and harder push for indigenous products will occur regardless of who is at the helm of the MoD. It is a misnomer to believe that someone like General VK Singh or Air Chief Marshal RKS Bhadauria can wave a magic wand, if they are appointed as the Raksha Mantri.
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Rakesh wrote: 10 Jun 2024 20:33
hgupta wrote: 10 Jun 2024 19:58 Not too happy with Rajnath Singh continuing as DM. We need a change at this ministry in order to accelerate the reforms and push harder for indigenous products.
Rajnath Singh will remain till some of the carry over programs from the previous administration are complete.

Reforms and harder push for indigenous products will occur regardless of who is at the helm of the MoD. It is a misnomer to believe that someone like General VK Singh or Air Chief Marshal RKS Bhadauria can wave a magic wand, if they are appointed as the Raksha Mantri.
Actually the type of person we need is not a general but an industrialist type of person who understands how defense industry works and what it takes to achieve 100% self reliance.
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hgupta wrote: 10 Jun 2024 20:35 Actually the type of person we need is not a general but an industrialist type of person who understands how defense industry works and what it takes to achieve 100% self reliance.
Whatever reforms put in place will extend beyond a govt's term of five years. The planning and execution itself will take that long. Verifiable and measurable results will take a length of time to become publicly visible. The CDS announcement was made by Prime Minister Modi on 15 August 2019 and we are just beginning to see the first set of reforms (i.e. theaterisation) being put into place in 2024. Welcome to Bharat :)

Secondly, in politics and within political parties, you have to cater to a number of individuals who have to be accommodated. This is just the reality of politics. That does not mean you cannot get a retired officer or an industrialist to execute on reforms, but that individual will have to partner with the Raksha Mantri in that task.

Thirdly, there are some key projects (i.e. 110kN turbofan JV for AMCA) that Rajnath Singh is fully aware of and has been briefed on. Appointing another Raksha Mantri - at this juncture - will result in a delay that can be avoided. There are other programs/projects in the pipeline that could share a similar fate, if Rajnath Singh is reassigned to some other ministry. Same reason why the Finance Ministry, Foreign Affairs Ministry, Home Ministry, etc are still with the same key BJP players.

Finance, Home, Defence and External Affairs are symbiotic. Each needs the other.
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Despite a below average showing and several scandals Dharmendra Pradhan retains education ministry.

And then people are surprised about the internalized anger against some BJP members/policies
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By the way, who is selected as the Lok Sabha Speaker??
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Retaining Dharmendra Pradhan means that Modi 3.0 is going to continue the disastrous policy of the Commie textbooks being read for 5 more years by our children. An entire generation brainwashed by the C-system to hate themselves - thanks to Modi Sarkar not changing a single line in history books

Sigh. This means they still don't have a bloody clue about the civilizational war that's going on

Jyotiranditya Scindia was doing a good job as Civil Aviation Minister. We saw a quantum jump in new airports, routes, capacity expansion etc under him. Not happy to see him shunted elsewhere, due to coalition compulsions

The core ministries are fine. But hope they perform better (Rajnath Singh, Nirmala Sitharaman, Amit Shah etc). Except for Jaishankar, none of them were an A+. They were B or B+ at best
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With coalition in tow, the BJP needs to step on the accelerator, no more timidness, no more log kya kahenge type outlook. In defense area, there are many pending decisions to take AtmaNirbhata to the next phase. Hope to see a flurry of indigenous equipment being inducted at break-neck speed. In Finance, Nirmala S has been steady with no big breakthroughs - I am expecting rationalizing the GST rates to more saner levels (currently too high). Getting more people in the tax net is very important including the rich farmers and shady businessmen. With big data processing there is umpteen data to bring in those who are not paying taxes into the tax net. Once the tax base is enlarged, the rates on income tax can be brought down, the middle class with TDS are bearing the brunt of tax. I would like to see a complete stop in importing goods from China - the nation is doing one big garage sale dumping their products on the world at large. Many unscrupulous banias are buying them and repackaging it as "made in India". Enough incentives should be given to those who can start the manufacturing process for supply chain parts/products. The manufacturing clout of India requires more attention. Machines needed for manufacture are another area that India requires some thought and energy towards. Wholesale import from other nations is self defeating. Indian railways requires some more shake up and change. Too many old decrepit stations and railway gear - coaches, engines, tracks, bridges, signaling, etc. Average speed of trains is abysmal. Vande bharat is first step and the speeds need to be improved over time. The rate of production is slow and babus love it that way. Gadkari, retained in roads and highways is good. He can now concentrate on providing more features for the road network - better furniture (signs) for highways, amenities for road travel like rest areas, dining, fuel stations and more. Improving bottlenecks is another area to speed up average time taken. Sad to see Scindia away from Civil aviation, he was good. However I would like India to start manufacture of civil passenger aircrafts - it is consumer of large quantities and it is a shame they are imported from videsh. When will HAL become a passenger civil aircraft manufacturer and designer?

In this term Modiji has to implement judicial and administrative reforms. Just these two items can improve GDP by 2-4 % a year.
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x posted from the Exit Polls & Results thread


This guy tells you why the Modi 3.0 govt is here to stay.

The reasoning is short, sweet, and logical and very few could have explained it better



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qboucd8l-lI


Ab Uttar Chahiye: मोदी 3.0 का तेवर, पहले ही दिन दिखाया ट्रेलर!





This video is 11:41 minutes long
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For the next five years the NDA should pulverise rahul gandhi and the congi party on a daily basis with their non delivery on the Rs 8,500/= per month khatakhat promise when poor burqa clad women who have been cheated by the congis, are lining up in front of the congi offices demanding the fulfillment of the publicly proclaimed rahul's guarantee of the promised monthly khatakhat payment





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5kEqAzdKn8


Congress Suffers Defeat In LS Polls Despite Tall Promises; 'Khata-Khat Model' Backfires?





The video is about 11:52 minutes long


Despite all efforts, I.N.D.I.A bloc-led by the Congress party could not succeed in forming government at the Centre.

I.N.D.I.A bloc won 234 seats out of 543. Meanwhile, hundreds of women lined up outside the Congress party for Rs 8,500 per month which Rahul Gandhi had promised to give them after forming the government.

The question here arises is - Whether 'Khata-Khat Model' Backfired?
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bala wrote: 10 Jun 2024 23:57 With coalition in tow, the BJP needs to step on the accelerator, no more timidness, no more log kya kahenge type outlook. reforms.
I am not holding on to a lot of hope, They may push for 1-2 big ticket items across the 3-4 yrs but the ruthlessness doesn't seem to be there

Why did Nadda get a cabinet spot after a poor showing in the polls, Why are cabinet ministers retained despite below average performances, If nothing else at least rotate and shuffle them to show some change

The first decision post taking power was giving more money to the Kisan yojana showing that votes will get more freebies
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AkshaySG wrote:Why are cabinet ministers retained despite below average performances, If nothing else at least rotate and shuffle them to show some change
There are pros and cons on shuffle. Keeping them there ensures that they know the ministry to affect the necessary change. You have to live with the gausian curve (some good some bad some okay politicos). BTW change is mainly opposed by the Babucracy and Judiciary. These two behemoths are the stumbling blocks for progress of the nation. This is where you get the bang for the buck so to speak. I would throw out the entire current working paradigm of both Babucracy and Judiciary. Why in the age of digital work flow management, automated decision making (including judgements) do we need a bloated useless britshit hangover system.

Babucracy needs specialists for each sector not generalist who pretend to know everything. What does it take to grow at say 10% in each dept. You get hold of relevant metrics, look at the bottlenecks (and remove them diligently), provide timely decisions (head nodding) with a BPM (business process mgmt) tool and monitor and watch the growth. A specialist would know this like the back of their hand. The entire lot in babucracy hardly does a honest day of work, they are ace BSers who watch the politicos and sway the way they want them to sway. I can guarantee that there is no IAS babu who knows any subject in depth, they are all wishy washy in knowledge and con artists par excellence.

Judges need to strictly uphold laws instead shoving their opinion (irrelevant) on judgements. 90% of cases are straightforward and a good AI program with Gen AI can provide judgements, don't need your honor to provide any judgement. Courts and Judges can be reduced to a small office with full digital automation. The feedback from the AI programs can be given to the politicos to tweak vague and ambiguous laws and the amended laws are passed quickly.

Oh, I did forget that other crucial group - the police. This is crying for reforms, proper ethics, discipline and toughness. I don't when the cadre will reform under an able Home minister.
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AkshaySG wrote: 09 Jun 2024 20:50 I don't think I've seen a bigger difference between expert/world opinion of a cabinet minister's performance and the common public's as it is for Nirmala Sitharaman.

Now that would have been fine in a 350+ BJP but now.... Who knows
Guess it's good enough to continue although I will say that I haven't seen so much frustration over choices Cabinet ministers since 2014-15 days of early BJP

Even pro BJP/pro development type handles are regularly posting about the annoyance of the common man over NS's tax regime or the standard of passenger railway under AV

Goes to show that even with progress and improvement in macro fundamentals (which is true for both economy and railways) you still need to throw the folks a bone once in a while.
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AkshaySG wrote: 11 Jun 2024 07:52
Guess it's good enough to continue although I will say that I haven't seen so much frustration over choices Cabinet ministers since 2014-15 days of early BJP

Even pro BJP/pro development type handles are regularly posting about the annoyance of the common man over NS's tax regime or the standard of passenger railway under AV

Goes to show that even with progress and improvement in macro fundamentals (which is true for both economy and railways) you still need to throw the folks a bone once in a while.
Just as inflation and price rise have been the top 2 concerns of people in every survey since independence, there is no instance of the common
man ever being happy with any FMs tax policy - even those that don't pay tax, but would prefer lower taxes and accept inflation.
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Prem Kumar wrote: 10 Jun 2024 22:40 Retaining Dharmendra Pradhan means that Modi 3.0 is going to continue the disastrous policy of the Commie textbooks being read for 5 more years by our children. An entire generation brainwashed by the C-system to hate themselves - thanks to Modi Sarkar not changing a single line in history books

Sigh. This means they still don't have a bloody clue about the civilizational war that's going on

Jyotiranditya Scindia was doing a good job as Civil Aviation Minister. We saw a quantum jump in new airports, routes, capacity expansion etc under him. Not happy to see him shunted elsewhere, due to coalition compulsions

The core ministries are fine. But hope they perform better (Rajnath Singh, Nirmala Sitharaman, Amit Shah etc). Except for Jaishankar, none of them were an A+. They were B or B+ at best
This goes to the heart of what I've ranted about in the exit poll thread. Namely that but for a few good ministers, most of the 70+ ministers
do not have the autonomy to take the big decisions (and probably don't have the ability). Far too much is driven by the PMO.

How many education ministers have we had since 2014 ? Why is skill development separate from education ?
Civil Aviation is complex - I was in a senior position in the industry. Just as Hardeep Puri was coming to grips with the job, he was replaced with
Jyoti Scindia, who has now been replaced with a non entity. Telecom is similarly complex. Why has Jyoti, as the new telecom minister,
been given an additional charge of the north East, when we have 2 ministers from the North East ?
Rajeev Chandrashekar could have continued in Telecom for which he is well suited (and a reward for giving a tough fight to Tharoor), rather than
the Minister from Kerala reportedly saying he did not even want to be a minister.
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The state is being run by two snake oil salesmen who are using the excuse of "dissention" to try and wriggle out of their pappu imposed "guarantee schemes" that are rapidly dragging down fortunes of the state.

If this continues, then very soon, FDI will start to avoid and bypass these ill managed states

The dire financial situation in states like WB, KER, KAR, TN etc and the fallout and consequences of the wilful profligacy that is used for jihadi vote bank management, diversion of and disappearance of development funds sourced from the center, the constant confrontation and friction with the center for "additional" funds which will not be forthcoming because NS is a stickler for rules

NS has performed very well as per her mandate. Her alleged "unpopularity" stems from the fact that these financial clowns are unable to digest the fact that she is more qualified than them and will not allow these MCPs to over ride her authority. Her incorruptible nature is another huge barrier that negates their thieving shenanigans.

do any of these clowns have the testimonials to go up against a gori aging chamadi from europe ..... if not, why not .. The answer is self evident


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmJrm8mwNpw


M Lakshmana, a Congress leader who lost the Lok Sabha Elections from Mysuru, has called upon CM Siddaramaiah to reassess and reevaluate the guarantee schemes being run by the government in Karnataka.





The video is 4:07 minutes long
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AkshaySG wrote: 11 Jun 2024 03:47
bala wrote: 10 Jun 2024 23:57 With coalition in tow, the BJP needs to step on the accelerator, no more timidness, no more log kya kahenge type outlook. reforms.
I am not holding on to a lot of hope, They may push for 1-2 big ticket items across the 3-4 yrs but the ruthlessness doesn't seem to be there

Why did Nadda get a cabinet spot after a poor showing in the polls, Why are cabinet ministers retained despite below average performances, If nothing else at least rotate and shuffle them to show some change

The first decision post taking power was giving more money to the Kisan yojana showing that votes will get more freebies
Any other party would have announced this just before the polls.

By the time next parliamentary polls are due, beneficiaries would have forgotten.

The new government is in panic mode.
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bala wrote: 11 Jun 2024 04:18
AkshaySG wrote:Why are cabinet ministers retained despite below average performances, If nothing else at least rotate and shuffle them to show some change
There are pros and cons on shuffle. Keeping them there ensures that they know the ministry to affect the necessary change. You have to live with the gausian curve (some good some bad some okay politicos). BTW change is mainly opposed by the Babucracy and Judiciary. These two behemoths are the stumbling blocks for progress of the nation. This is where you get the bang for the buck so to speak. I would throw out the entire current working paradigm of both Babucracy and Judiciary. Why in the age of digital work flow management, automated decision making (including judgements) do we need a bloated useless britshit hangover system.

Babucracy needs specialists for each sector not generalist who pretend to know everything. What does it take to grow at say 10% in each dept. You get hold of relevant metrics, look at the bottlenecks (and remove them diligently), provide timely decisions (head nodding) with a BPM (business process mgmt) tool and monitor and watch the growth. A specialist would know this like the back of their hand. The entire lot in babucracy hardly does a honest day of work, they are ace BSers who watch the politicos and sway the way they want them to sway. I can guarantee that there is no IAS babu who knows any subject in depth, they are all wishy washy in knowledge and con artists par excellence.

Judges need to strictly uphold laws instead shoving their opinion (irrelevant) on judgements. 90% of cases are straightforward and a good AI program with Gen AI can provide judgements, don't need your honor to provide any judgement. Courts and Judges can be reduced to a small office with full digital automation. The feedback from the AI programs can be given to the politicos to tweak vague and ambiguous laws and the amended laws are passed quickly.

Oh, I did forget that other crucial group - the police. This is crying for reforms, proper ethics, discipline and toughness. I don't when the cadre will reform under an able Home minister.
Namo needs to make sure the Indi party thugs are exposed first. That has become a do or die priority now. If these corrupt, thieving Anti-nationals have their way to the government next election, we are done for centuries to come.
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chetak wrote: 11 Jun 2024 01:05
The question here arises is - Whether 'Khata-Khat Model' Backfired?
https://www.youtube.com/live/Eq_rgcaEPA ... 1pq0R0GX0a
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triank wrote: 11 Jun 2024 17:04
chetak wrote: 11 Jun 2024 01:05
The question here arises is - Whether 'Khata-Khat Model' Backfired?
https://www.youtube.com/live/Eq_rgcaEPA ... 1pq0R0GX0a
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Do it in TN, KA, MH, HP, TG, Delhi and UP too in front CON offices
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A samudhayak which is capable of deciding the outcome of many a parliament or state legislature seat, in locations across the country, how is it a "minority"


We are one really confused country, hell bent on self destruction



vi@ WA

While speaking at the India Today Conclave 2022, Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi, the then Minority Affairs minister, stated on record that out of 2.45 crores houses given under PM Awas Yojana, 31.3% went to minorities, particularly Muslims.

This isn't 'sabka saath, sabka vikas' but 'kuch ka saath, kuch ka vikas aur unka zyada vikas jinka milta nahi saath'.

Now, the Cabinet has decided to further expand the Awas Yojana and construct an additional 3 crore houses.

My only request is to ensure equitable allotment, at least this time.

At times, poor general category people have to run from pillar to post to get houses while others get them easily because the system is skewed.
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Prem Kumar wrote: 10 Jun 2024 22:40 Retaining Dharmendra Pradhan means that Modi 3.0 is going to continue the disastrous policy of the Commie textbooks being read for 5 more years by our children. An entire generation brainwashed by the C-system to hate themselves - thanks to Modi Sarkar not changing a single line in history books

Sigh. This means they still don't have a bloody clue about the civilizational war that's going on
There have been enough changes - I know because of involvement in a few IITs - Indian knowledge system based courseware, changes in leadership of colleges/Universities more sympathetic to Govt line have all happened. Most private colleges where social media highlights instance of BIF gangs are routinely brought under pressure to reign in the wild horses.. Just check the profiles of IIT Diros appointed in his watch...
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PM Modi to steer India's space dreams: What lies ahead in Modi 3.0?
As has been the tradition, the Prime Minister will oversee the functioning of the department, under which the Indian Space Research Organisation (Isro) operates, the day-to-day work will continue to be handled by Dr. Jitnedra Singh as the Minister of State.
With the advent of Artificial Intelligence (AI) and enhanced development in the field of quantum communications and computing, the sector is hopeful that the new government will push further in these avenues in the next five years.

"We expect the government to continue its robust support for scientific R&D through initiatives like the National Research Foundation. This includes enhanced financial support for research in artificial intelligence, machine learning, quantum technologies, and green energy solutions,
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sinha wrote: 11 Jun 2024 20:23
Prem Kumar wrote: 10 Jun 2024 22:40 Retaining Dharmendra Pradhan means that Modi 3.0 is going to continue the disastrous policy of the Commie textbooks being read for 5 more years by our children. An entire generation brainwashed by the C-system to hate themselves - thanks to Modi Sarkar not changing a single line in history books

Sigh. This means they still don't have a bloody clue about the civilizational war that's going on
There have been enough changes - I know because of involvement in a few IITs - Indian knowledge system based courseware, changes in leadership of colleges/Universities more sympathetic to Govt line have all happened. Most private colleges where social media highlights instance of BIF gangs are routinely brought under pressure to reign in the wild horses.. Just check the profiles of IIT Diros appointed in his watch...
I am *really* impressed by the amount of material in digital library of Indian texts (Veda's, astronomy, etc) in easily accessible form - from original text to many Indian languages etc)..I like it because for Math (which I have interest) i can easily find rare resources..
This is only going to be bigger..


For example at IIT a sample includes:
The IIT collection of Sanskrit texts includes:

Gita supersite
Brahmasutra
Ramacharitmanas
Upanishads
Complete works of Shankaracharya
Vedic Reserve (index)
Nirukta, Rigveda, shatapatha brAhmaNa
Stutimandal collection
Pandanus Sanskrit e-Texts
Gaudiya granthamandira
Research site on Sanskrit texts for Somadeva Vasudeva
Shri Vasudevananda Saraswati's Complete Works
Sripedia project as a part of Million Book Project
Shri Satya Sai Pratishthan
Gleanings from Sanskrit Literature by Shri P. R. Ramamurthy
Stotras in Telugu Transcripts
Collected Works of Vasistha Kavyakantha Ganapati Muni in 12 Volumes
.. list goes on..
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sinha wrote: 11 Jun 2024 20:23
Prem Kumar wrote: 10 Jun 2024 22:40 Retaining Dharmendra Pradhan means that Modi 3.0 is going to continue the disastrous policy of the Commie textbooks being read for 5 more years by our children. An entire generation brainwashed by the C-system to hate themselves - thanks to Modi Sarkar not changing a single line in history books

Sigh. This means they still don't have a bloody clue about the civilizational war that's going on
There have been enough changes - I know because of involvement in a few IITs - Indian knowledge system based courseware, changes in leadership of colleges/Universities more sympathetic to Govt line have all happened. Most private colleges where social media highlights instance of BIF gangs are routinely brought under pressure to reign in the wild horses.. Just check the profiles of IIT Diros appointed in his watch...
What we need is a change at school level curriculum. IITs are technical institutions, the real BiG scums are in the social sciences departments of every educational institutions from NCERT to universities like JNU.
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hgupta wrote: 10 Jun 2024 20:35 Actually the type of person we need is not a general but an industrialist type of person who understands how defense industry works and what it takes to achieve 100% self reliance.
I'd like some industrialist type as well, but the conflict of interest would not allow for search a person. Otherwise Baba Kalyani would have rocked.

Alternatively we can have some good DPSU/DRDO head that led/revived tech cooperation with pvt sector. They'd know how to handle bureaucracy as well.

Also, Gen VK Singh will do great IMO despite not having the industrial background. Upright leader who can get things done.

ACM Bhaduria is the kind of person who ticks almost all the boxes, and would have been my top pick. It is strange that he wasn't tried for at least MoS Defence
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vimal wrote: 11 Jun 2024 21:37
What we need is a change at school level curriculum. The real BiG scums are in the social sciences departments of every educational institutions from NCERT to universities like JNU.
Catching them young is the key. Currently all school level curriculum is filled with half-truths, blatant lies (like Aryan Invasion Theory nonsense, Darwin's screwed up logic of evolution and so on). We have to start with medium of instruction (not Angrez) change. Sanskrit and other native languages are needed. It is quite amazing to watch kids learn and they can absorb incredible amount of knowledge in a short span of time. Every thing taught in school needs complete revamp. We need asynch approach to learning instead of rote boring classes. Kids need to learn by doing things and thereby these concepts are ingrained into their thinking. Different learning in different areas simultaneously, no exams as such, rather useful projects are embarked upon. A final exam should test the student in areas they are good at and you kind of differentiate them at that point of time. Getting to college level and beyond is special areas of focus which is in synch with the student's aptitude.
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Prem Kumar wrote: 10 Jun 2024 22:40 Retaining Dharmendra Pradhan means that Modi 3.0 is going to continue the disastrous policy of the Commie textbooks being read for 5 more years by our children. An entire generation brainwashed by the C-system to hate themselves - thanks to Modi Sarkar not changing a single line in history books

Sigh. This means they still don't have a bloody clue about the civilizational war that's going on

Jyotiranditya Scindia was doing a good job as Civil Aviation Minister. We saw a quantum jump in new airports, routes, capacity expansion etc under him. Not happy to see him shunted elsewhere, due to coalition compulsions

The core ministries are fine. But hope they perform better (Rajnath Singh, Nirmala Sitharaman, Amit Shah etc). Except for Jaishankar, none of them were an A+. They were B or B+ at best
Repeatedly raising the same old "have you stopped beating your wife?" strawman rants with ill-informed presumptions will not have any effect.

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You can decide which route you want to go.

Cabinet portfolios: The election is a democratic exercise, but cabinet formation is not. There are always reasons - best known to the PM - for selection of the cabinet.

In UPA/prior Congi regimes, accomplishment was rarely a criterion for a cabinet position. In NDA, the fact is that accomplishment is usually a key criterion, and there have been periodic reviews and replacements as needed.

Dharmendra Pradhan: He has done a good job implementing the New Education Policy, which Javadekar had started but did not complete properly. Indian education has many issues needing to be fixed. Textbook/curriculum revision is one of them.

Significant changes have occurred in textbooks. The fact that the usual suspects: commies/BIFs/NGOs/"historians" are deeply angered about these changes, is a good indication. Are you an Indian education expert, or knowledgeable about it? If so, be more specific why Pradhan failed in his job.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ncert-h ... rt-5379850

https://theworld.org/stories/2023/04/28 ... -textbooks

https://pen.org/press-release/india-rew ... worldview/

https://carnegieendowment.org/posts/201 ... rs?lang=en
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sinha wrote: 11 Jun 2024 20:23
Prem Kumar wrote: 10 Jun 2024 22:40 Retaining Dharmendra Pradhan means that Modi 3.0 is going to continue the disastrous policy of the Commie textbooks being read for 5 more years by our children. An entire generation brainwashed by the C-system to hate themselves - thanks to Modi Sarkar not changing a single line in history books

Sigh. This means they still don't have a bloody clue about the civilizational war that's going on
There have been enough changes - I know because of involvement in a few IITs - Indian knowledge system based courseware, changes in leadership of colleges/Universities more sympathetic to Govt line have all happened. Most private colleges where social media highlights instance of BIF gangs are routinely brought under pressure to reign in the wild horses.. Just check the profiles of IIT Diros appointed in his watch...
Disregard these substance-free posts/posters.

They have actually no interest in Indian civilization or school curriculum revisions - their objective is to bait the Modi sarkar while appearing to have the country's best interests at heart. Another subtle form of anti-India propaganda, i.e. "gaslighting" to make nationalists believe that they have been hoodwinked by Modi.

If they really had an interest in the school curriculum, then they would do some elementary reading on the topic and what has been done in the last several years. The Indian education system has so many challenges as you point out - a number of which the NEP introduced by Pradhan (and based on Javadekar's earlier work) tries to address.

I have posted several links that debunk the "not a single line changed in history textbooks" claims. It appears the prior education minister Javadekar had made this statement - in the context that the policies/changes were still being worked out and it was too early for the usual BIFs/NGOs to criticize the sarkar. These phaltu posters are still hanging on to Javadekar's old statements and think Pradhan has done nothing in the last few years, yet got a renewal term.
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