US Election Watch Thread 2024

[Leonard]

Now that the Election thingie is "Done & Dusted" -- but as per OBAMMER -- it is not and will take Days ....

1. BRF is way ahead of the Curve as usual about blatant Cheating in Non-Voter id states ... See the link/map below:

https://x.com/ElonMuskAOC/status/185422 ... 09/photo/1

2. 2024 Elections- Kom-a-lie got 60 Million Votes - but in 2020 "Buy-Them" -- got 80 Million Votes -- Did the US population lose 20 Million folks from COVID or some plague ?

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Dinesh D'Souza
@DineshDSouza
Kamala got 60 million votes in 2024. Does anyone really believe Biden got 80 million in 2020? Where did those 20 million Democratic voters go? The truth is, they never existed. I think we can put the lie about Biden’s 80 million votes to rest once and for all

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3. Photo Optics, Splashy front page / back page pics of Religious Moment's/Celebrations, Bhangra Dances, Painting Black faces, like Turd-eau are like "lap dances" at a stag-nite in a nudie bar ...

These are not signs of well-planned "economic & strategic" connection between nation-states ..

Warning signs ...

Sudden release of IMF funds for n'hood terrorists
Sudden amping up of Khalistani rhetoric
USCIRF publishing crap because of Evangelists being cut-out
Delay in release of 200+ GE Engines when contract was signed
US SD blaming GOI for crushing Pannun cockroach -- What about David Headley, T Rana - why no extradition ?
US still buying Uranium ore from Russia - while buying OIL is a no-no ..

Yes -- The Tarifs and other Economic changes will be "painful" -- Who will be affected more ?

PRC - $551 Billion
The main products that China exported to United States were Broadcasting Equipment ($59.3B), Computers ($51.9B), and Office Machine Parts ($17.2B).

India - 83 Billion
Exported to the US were: Diamonds ($9.75 billion), Packaged medicaments ($7.54 billion), and Refined petroleum ($4.87 billion).

[hanumadu]

S. Jaishanker on Trump's win. He seems to suggest he is not expecting any favours from Trump ("We should be analyzing them rather than project our preferred outcomes or expectations on them").

[Mort Walker]

From AIM:
“The first calls Trump had were with Bibi, Modi & MBS. Not Euro-Schmucks who think they’re the centre of the Universe. Fun times ahead”

[hanumadu]

Trump may be able to stop middle east war but Ukraine war will not be easy. Putin gives two f*cks about anybody. He has to get Donbas.

[bala]

This business of voter id / photo id not required is being used by the Dumbocrats to rig the election result requires further follow up and scrutiny.

I want to highlight those states that are pretty close (< 5%) but went to Dumbocrats from (https://www.google.com/search?q=U.S+Election ):

Minnesota 4.3% 10 electoral votes around 139,382 votes
New Hamshire 3% 4 electoral votes around 23, 516 votes

14 electoral votes fudged?

[Cyrano]

Trump did not name - Vivek and Tulsi in his speech today.
I thought they played stellar role in getting young generation and Democrat fencesitters to vote Trump respectively.

Vivek as Ambassador will be sidelining him.... His campaign was to go after DS & bureaucracy.
that will go into cold storage post elections.

Too early to read so much into it.

[Leonard]

The number 1 concern for the Trumpist's is the the Deep State Shenanigans ...

View on X - x-change comments between Ron Paul & Elon Musk -- about Pompeo --

Someone has already started floating rumors & set up plans in motion to install Deep state moles like Pompeo, Bolton ....

If that happens -- it be deja vu or ground hog day all over again ...

Having Vivek, Elon and perhaps a few other's could help keep these in check ...

As far as Ukraine ...

Full on NATO spec-ops from all are present in various capacities are in Ukraine, Putin has gamed this already and has also invited the "soldats" from PRC, North Koreans, Mercs from countries like Nepal, Africa --

It's a full blown NATO vs Russia conflict minus the Nukes at the moment ...

Its not easy to use Swarm drone tech / satellite guided kamikaze drones without hands on mentoring ...

The Big question is - how close are we / were we to WW3 before Trump's win ...

[Vayutuvan]

It may be down to the wire, or not.

[Vayutuvan]

... control Trump, especially since he is vulnerable from the legal front.

That is a spent weapon now. Trump will shut down everything.

[Vayutuvan]

But with the end of war in Europe where will India export all its rotten FCI godown wheat

and where can it get cheap crude? Right now we are getting it from Russia who needs cash.

[Vayutuvan]

If one were to believe the SM, more than 81% of the non degree holding whites voted for him

Non-degree holding women who several people right here on this forum called stupid, not very decent, yadda yadda yadda. He also made big strides in black men, latino, young voters (18-30 age group) across the board. This is very significant going forward. Democrats were dealt a great blow. They have to remake their party from the ground up. They need to do a lot of soul searching as to why they lost some of the deep blue votebase.

This is the second time they lost due to hubris and elitism. Both the times it was woman candidates - 2020 and 2024.

[Vayutuvan]

His MAGA base is ape sh*t racist bible thumpers.

They are fringe and small in number.

[Vayutuvan]

but India has no real gains with looming tariffs.

What tariffs?

[Vayutuvan]

Good thing about Trump is that he is not a career politician and is not from inside the beltway (similar to Lutyens group in Delhi of Congress) and is open to the new ideas. Republicans have won the Senate while House is still narrowly under democrats.

Very good point. Mami got 90%+ vote in DC. Had she won and got control of the senate, Dems were planning to turn DC and Puerto Rico into states thus gaining 4 senators in two new "deep blue" states.

[Najunamar]

A lot of Rhona Dhona from the lefties will continue - in fact some are trying to still steal the White House by trying to start a petition on how DJT is a “convicted felon”. I expect the Dhimmies to not learn anything and continue in their path of destroying their party similar to the RaGa crowd. The media rags will continue to do articles showing how magnificent Demented Joe and Komali Devi were, how DJT is bringing about apocalypse.

[chetak]

If one were to believe the SM, more than 81% of the non degree holding whites voted for him

Non-degree holding women who several people right here on this forum called stupid, not very decent, yadda yadda yadda. He also made big strides in black men, latino, young voters (18-30 age group) across the board. This is very significant going forward. Democrats were dealt a great blow. They have to remake their party from the ground up. They need to do a lot of soul searching as to why they lost some of the deep blue votebase.

This is the second time they lost due to hubris and elitism. Both the times it was woman candidates - 2020 and 2024.

Vayutuvan ji,

obummer, shillary and the entire woke commie, cultish and destructive DIE infected extended soreass tribes are not only blackhearted but also soulless

so where do the demmies start, if at all

the chilling realization that the mylapore maami 's avatar as "president" would actually be obummer's 4th term in office was, IMVHO, the deal breaker

the massive illegal border crossings actively engineered and encouraged by the biden (obummer shillary) has put the fear of god knows what into the black community as a whole, a very real fear they they would become irrelevant and thus ignored and eventually disenfranchised, losing their political clout and demographic identity

the same fear that is also now beginning to engulf the abrahamic desert cult that is flocking to the US, aus and kaneda

Don't you forget that both the women candidates were politically decimated by trump.

[Vayutuvan]

TBH potus is pretty much a rubber stamp nowadays. Bureaucracy and special interest groups rule the nation

Only difference between Trump and democrat candidates is that he doesn't need money. He has enough. He would have enough even if loses 90% of his putative 2.5 billion wealth. That is still 4x what Obamas are worth. Certainly lot more wealthier than Biden, Harris, and Pelosi. The only grifter couple who got close to a billion are Clintons.

[Vayutuvan]

Vivek as Ambassador will be sidelining him.... His campaign was to go after DS & bureaucracy.
that will go into cold storage post elections.

Vivek already said he will be contesting in Ohio gubernatorial primaries. He may not be effective in the administration right now as he doesn't have any political experience and is also very young. Now Tulsi G. is a different matter. That is somewhat unexpected.

[Vayutuvan]

Wake up call for all the brown people who worship DT. MAGA is for white folks only.

Dems are no good either. Obama and Biden both gave positions to anti-India PIOs.

[Vayutuvan]

...
Have these communists no real imagination!

Every GOP presidential candidate since Nixon had been called a fascist, nazi, going to become a dictator, democracy backsliding, and so on.

[Vayutuvan]

Trump may be able to stop middle east war but Ukraine war will not be easy. Putin gives two f*cks about anybody. He has to get Donbas.

I think it is exactly the other way around. Elensky will be asked to bend his knee to Putin and stop loss of further territory. He will also force NATO to make statement (taquiya maybe but there is nothing permanent about borders of countries outside of the NA) not to induct Ukraine into

He will turn a blind eye to Isarel's excesses (as per the eyrabs/iranians/etc.) on Gazans. A low level conflict will continue for a long time.

[Y. Kanan]

The election of Trump could mean peace in Ukraine but even more war in the Middle East. That mostly suits Indian interests just fine, but the destruction or destabilization of Iran is definitely a negative for us.

[hanumadu]

Trump may be able to stop middle east war but Ukraine war will not be easy. Putin gives two f*cks about anybody. He has to get Donbas.

I think it is exactly the other way around. Elensky will be asked to bend his knee to Putin and stop loss of further territory. He will also force NATO to make statement (taquiya maybe but there is nothing permanent about borders of countries outside of the NA) not to induct Ukraine into

He will turn a blind eye to Isarel's excesses (as per the eyrabs/iranians/etc.) on Gazans. A low level conflict will continue for a long time.

Isreal is dependent on US weapons, Russia is not. Without taking Donbas completely, this war would be a wasted effort. Putin will want his pound of flesh to stop the war which will be unacceptable to Ukraine.

[hanumadu]

I hope Trump will not hold back and provide as much entertainment as he did in the first term.

[sanman]

Some people really deserve to be awarded style points for their mental breakdowns

[Vayutuvan]

The election of Trump could mean peace in Ukraine but even more war in the Middle East. That mostly suits Indian interests just fine, but the destruction or destabilization of Iran is definitely a negative for us.

But do we want another "peaceful" nuclear power in our neighborhood? We already have that pesky pest in our west.

[Manish_P]

... control Trump, especially since he is vulnerable from the legal front.

That is a spent weapon now. Trump will shut down everything.

Anything which is shut can be restarted. But he is in a much stronger position now. And his strength and support increases when he is attacked. But he won't be eligible for another term.

If the opposition has sense they could just play out the next 5 rounds and work on projecting a new leader with some acceptance in the red areas and who can dominate in the swing areas.

Seems like the current lot have just too much hubris to do it.

[Manish_P]

The election of Trump could mean peace in Ukraine but even more war in the Middle East. That mostly suits Indian interests just fine, but the destruction or destabilization of Iran is definitely a negative for us.

But do we want another "peaceful" nuclear power in our neighborhood? We already have that pesky pest in our west.

Russia, aided by China, will try very hard not to let Eyeran fall. It is as much or more important than Syria.

We are going to have to do fine balancing there but there is a good probability that the Persian conflict can get us more time to become stronger as well as a good opportunity to earn just like the Ukraine war.

[Vayutuvan]

Anything which is shut can be restarted.

In four years a lot of water would have flown under the Teddy Roosevelt Bridge in the Duplicity. It is even possible that Trump's AG will start investigations into some of the congress critters - Schiff, Swalwell, Raskin come to mind. I am sure I am missing many others.

That would be used as leverage to not restart legal action against him or his family. Vance is smart, so he will be a formidable opponent for anyone Dems are going to put up, including Newsom and Shapiro. If they bring Michelle Obama, then they would lose once again. The old guard are finished - Clintons, Obamas, Bidens, Pelosi, Schumer, and Harris.

[Mort Walker]

Kamala Harris ended $20 million in debt.
This was a campaign that raised over $1 billion.

It wasn't a campaign, it was a massive pyramid scheme.

[bala]

Former president and projected winner of the 2024 election Donald J. Trump spoke to a large crowd celebrating his victory over Kamala Harris.



// there is a transcript available with YT.
// note: Trump's son by Melania is all grown up, tall and good looking like a potential leader in years to come.

[sanman]

NeoCon David Frum asks

Trump Won. Now What?
The United States is about to become a different kind of country.

By David Frum

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... iyxsrJYODU

[chetak]

vi@WA

In the meanwhile, Melania Trump makes history of her own:

Third wife, for the Second time, becomes the First lady

[chetak]

TBH potus is pretty much a rubber stamp nowadays. Bureaucracy and special interest groups rule the nation

Only difference between Trump and democrat candidates is that he doesn't need money. He has enough. He would have enough even if loses 90% of his putative 2.5 billion wealth. That is still 4x what Obamas are worth. Certainly lot more wealthier than Biden, Harris, and Pelosi. The only grifter couple who got close to a billion are Clintons.

Vayutuvan ji,

It would be more than enlightening for anyone to see how the blint0ns managed their l0ot

[A Deshmukh]

somehow the win is feeling like an anti-climax.
no nail-biting finish, no mid-nite jump in numbers, no counting controversies, no court cases, no agitations.
what happened? did DT make a deal with DS?

If so, some war will happen
either Israel gets a free hand with Iran
or China-Taiwan gets triggered.
or both
Ukraine war will shutdown. Its not going anywhere for US.

What to expect in the next 4 years:
Trump or Kamala, US still has massive $36T debt. That cannot be solved magically.
So, reset of $ into Bitcoin-based digital currency will be on the cards.
Only US will have ability to create these bitcoins.

Trade wars, currency wars, trying to cut down China, India, and Russia to size.

All these are speculations.
our leaders are to have game planned scenarios.
we can wait and watch before getting clarity on how it evolves.

[chetak]

somehow the win is feeling like an anti-climax.
no nail-biting finish, no mid-nite jump in numbers, no counting controversies, no court cases, no agitations.
what happened?

Deshmukh ji,


What happened was this: After being gypped out out a victory the last time around, and as planned, Trump's volunteers and a huge battery of lawyers in every location kept closely monitoring the situation and watching the proceedings like hawks.

This game plan was the primary reason that the amazon guy backed out and bolted for safety with some of the other media owners following suit.

with musk not under control, other SM variants went into a deep dive and refrained from much of their previous antics where they had run a deeply biased, poisonous, and divisive narrative against trump with no fear of repercussions.

with the amriki aam jantha aware of the DS antics, the obummer brigades had little to no elbow room to maneuver, distort and manipulate the public discourse in any meaningful manner. Trump is not a forgiving sort of guy.

Most importantly, this time around, the winds of change were blowing from a different direction and the vast majority of influencers had sensed it, along with a great many voters who were sitting on the fence

Thereafter, it was just like musk tweeted: "Game set and match"

This single tweet went viral and snowballed with 99.5M Views

Elon Musk@elonmusk

Game, set and match

9:02 AM · Nov 6, 2024·99.5M Views

obummer and his cohorts seem to have gone into hiding

[bala]

US still has massive $36T debt

Deep State Gehra Rajya has 300+ T which is not on the books, they went into capatilizing all western banks and the US. In the US it is collectively controlled by the Federal Reserve bank. Just the returns on 300 T is around 30 T and if needed that debt can disappear just like that. But no, that will not happen since the US public will be milked to that tune. Debt financing is a strange beast since it is based on some nebulous "trust" in the system. Yes, it is that shaky, no trust and the vultures will descend quickly. As long as the US is #1 in the world this "trust" is sufficient. The debt pile up will eventually eat up the US if the spend is not reigned in at some point. This will cause upheavals in the system with undetermined results. All US politicos are just kicking the football down the alley.

[Cyrano]

They can't get off that tiger called debt irrespective of who is in office. The only way out is a massive global upheaval ie WW3 (now we start understanding why NaMo keeps saying this is not an era of war) or a bigger bubble that can swallow the current one and burp ie crypto currency.

With the Dems we were heading towards the former, with Trump it's probably the latter.

[Manish_P]

...
with musk not under control, other SM variants went into a deep dive and refrained from much of their previous antics where they had run a deeply biased, poisonous, and divisive narrative against trump with no fear of repercussions.
...

Chetak sir, What about that other WMD (weapon of mass deception) FB and it's warlord Shri Zuckerberg?

Is FB no longer the thing it was in the US... I myself rarely go to FB. Maybe once a month - mostly to check out the upcoming birthdays.

[chetak]

...
with musk not under control, other SM variants went into a deep dive and refrained from much of their previous antics where they had run a deeply biased, poisonous, and divisive narrative against trump with no fear of repercussions.
...

Chetak sir, What about that other WMD (weapon of mass deception) FB and it's warlord Shri Zuckerberg?

Is FB no longer the thing it was in the US... I myself rarely go to FB. Maybe once a month - mostly to check out the upcoming birthdays.

Manish ji,


these guys have a new mantra of late, especially after they were caught butt nekkid with their pants down when they last interfered with a presidential election and currently, most wokes regard trump with a very healthy sense of fear


discretion is the better part of valor