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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 30 Aug 2024 21:12
by sanman
Mort Walker wrote: 30 Aug 2024 19:56 Both parties know that inflation can only be controlled by Chinese slave labor because the US doesn’t want an economy that is building consumer goods. High end integrated circuits/SOCs/embedded sw+fw, bespoke pharma products, aerospace & defense is where share holders profits are. The rest of the world becomes a slave to the Chinese & US.

This is why the establishment is so against Trump when he threatens tariffs.
US isn't capable of mass-producing consumer goods at prices its consumers can afford. Therefore they need some foreign source of slave labour.

But China isn't going to buy US treasuries only to see their value confiscated by a US which has weaponized its dollar.

US is already bailing from WTO with its various sanctions on China, including the latest ones on EVs.

US is anxious to not see its treasuries auctions fail in the absence of the traditional Chinese buyer, which would force it to heavily hike the yields for those treasuries. This would result in significantly higher debt servicing costs for the US.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 30 Aug 2024 21:27
by sanman
US ambassadors are all increasingly rubbing host nations the wrong way, as they resort to unprecedented levels of meddling in their affairs


Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 30 Aug 2024 22:29
by Mort Walker
sanman,

Most >75% of US Treasuries are sold in the US, typically the big banks who get bailouts & beneficiaries of quantitative easing. Countries may hold on to cash USD, but fewer outside the US are holding US T bills. Many of these external holders are private entities and less governments.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 31 Aug 2024 00:40
by Rakesh
Mort Walker wrote: 30 Aug 2024 19:56
Rakesh wrote: 30 Aug 2024 00:06 https://x.com/sreemoytalukdar/status/18 ... 5383117025 ---> Washington has been hard at work for a G2 'lite'. Advantage China, because Beijing understands that the urgency for a 'compact' lies more on the other side. This reinforces the fundamental unrealiability of the U.S. as a strategic partner.

The inside story of the secret backchannel between the US and China
https://www.ft.com/content/c62ca855-c70 ... d2a0020c16
25 August 2024
Both parties know that inflation can only be controlled by Chinese slave labor because the US doesn’t want an economy that is building consumer goods. High end integrated circuits/SOCs/embedded sw+fw, bespoke pharma products, aerospace & defense is where share holders profits are. The rest of the world becomes a slave to the Chinese & US.

This is why the establishment is so against Trump when he threatens tariffs.
Bingo! Well said.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 31 Aug 2024 00:47
by sanman
Mort Walker wrote: 30 Aug 2024 22:29 sanman,

Most >75% of US Treasuries are sold in the US, typically the big banks who get bailouts & beneficiaries of quantitative easing. Countries may hold on to cash USD, but fewer outside the US are holding US T bills. Many of these external holders are private entities and less governments.
Sir, for a long time now export-oriented economies like Japan & China have been main buyers of US treasuries in order to keep down the value of their currencies and keep their export engines running smoothly. That arrangement is clearly falling apart, due to weaponization of US Dollar to confiscate US assets from Russia. Everyone from Russia to China to Saudi are absolutely up in arms against this weaponization, which effectively destroys the credibility of the US Dollar. US cannot survive without foreign markets to purchase its debt.
Listen to voices like Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan, who is continually warning about US debt-servicing risks.

Meanwhile, we need to talk about the sudden Bangladesh move to order lots of weapons from Pakistan.
I feel this is being orchestrated from Washington.
They want to effectively resurrect a Unified Pakistan, since they know that West Pakistan on its own is too shaky to use for containing India.
So Washington is trying to orchestrate a "wealth transfer" -- ie. have Bangla bail out Pakistan with a sudden spate of weapons purchases.
These moves again demonstrate the increasing desperation of the ruling clique in Washington, as the November elections draw near.
They are now lashing out in increasingly desperate and unpredictable ways, because they know that if they lose power in November, then they could face prison - or worse.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 31 Aug 2024 03:50
by KL Dubey
Rakesh wrote: 31 Aug 2024 00:40 Bingo! Well said.
Trump and tariffs are a constant joke. He claimed to implement all sorts of tough measures "against China" in 2016, but there was very little useful action nor benefit. The DOJ filed some cases against chinese companies, researchers etc but nothing much came of this.

This wiki explains the issues quite well, instead of relying on motivated posts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_tariffs

The economic effects were strongly negative:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_tariffs#Economic

Other countries won't play ball either. Examples from Trump's prior attempts:
The tariffs angered trading partners, who implemented retaliatory tariffs on U.S. goods.[7] In June 2018, India planned to recoup trade penalties of $241 million on $1.2 billion worth of Indian steel and aluminum,[8] but attempted talks delayed these until June 2019 when India imposed retaliatory tariffs on $240 million worth of U.S. goods.[9] Canada imposed matching retaliatory tariffs on July 1, 2018.[10][11] China implemented retaliatory tariffs equivalent to the $34 billion tariff imposed on it by the U.S.[12]
Tariffs can be temporarily useful for advancing local manufacturing. But the US has very little capability (beyond a few niches) to manufacture at the scale of Asia, and tariffs will not have any lasting impact.

The current state of the Republican party is basically that of a Trump family-run outfit. It's interesting that we berate our desi "parivar-vadi" family business parties, but can't recognize the same phenomenon happening in the US. His latest plan is to provide tax breaks for large businesses and "the rich" while imposing tariffs that will end up increasing the cost of living for most people. All this is just a simple ploy to enrich himself/his family's business dealings and also control the donor cash flow (which will open opportunities for his offspring to gain public offices after him).

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 31 Aug 2024 05:31
by sanman
KL Dubey wrote: 31 Aug 2024 03:50 Trump and tariffs are a constant joke. He claimed to implement all sorts of tough measures "against China" in 2016, but there was very little useful action nor benefit. The DOJ filed some cases against chinese companies, researchers etc but nothing much came of this.

This wiki explains the issues quite well, instead of relying on motivated posts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_tariffs

The economic effects were strongly negative:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_tariffs#Economic
Sir, I would caution that Wikipedia is a notoriously Left-biased platform, and has even been renounced by its original creators who confirm that Leftists have taken it over. So you'll never see anything objective from Wikipedia on Trump or Modi, etc.
Other countries won't play ball either. Examples from Trump's prior attempts:
The tariffs angered trading partners, who implemented retaliatory tariffs on U.S. goods.[7] In June 2018, India planned to recoup trade penalties of $241 million on $1.2 billion worth of Indian steel and aluminum,[8] but attempted talks delayed these until June 2019 when India imposed retaliatory tariffs on $240 million worth of U.S. goods.[9] Canada imposed matching retaliatory tariffs on July 1, 2018.[10][11] China implemented retaliatory tariffs equivalent to the $34 billion tariff imposed on it by the U.S.[12]
Tariffs can be temporarily useful for advancing local manufacturing. But the US has very little capability (beyond a few niches) to manufacture at the scale of Asia, and tariffs will not have any lasting impact.

The current state of the Republican party is basically that of a Trump family-run outfit. It's interesting that we berate our desi "parivar-vadi" family business parties, but can't recognize the same phenomenon happening in the US. His latest plan is to provide tax breaks for large businesses and "the rich" while imposing tariffs that will end up increasing the cost of living for most people. All this is just a simple ploy to enrich himself/his family's business dealings and also control the donor cash flow (which will open opportunities for his offspring to gain public offices after him).
Trump does have the MAGA base -- which to be fair, he built up through his own efforts. Much of the rest of the Republican Party are just RINOs (Republicans in Name Only). They may occasionally pay lip-service to conservatism, but they're all addicted to donor money from a Globalist Leftist donor establishment. These so-called "Republicans" always inevitably sign onto debt-ceiling hikes and other pork-barrel spending. They just don't care anymore, and have sold out to monied interests.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 31 Aug 2024 07:20
by ramana
sanman wrote: 30 Aug 2024 21:27 US ambassadors are all increasingly rubbing host nations the wrong way, as they resort to unprecedented levels of meddling in their affairs

Blinken is doing his last dance of ineptitude.
Burning down bridges so his successor has hard work.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 31 Aug 2024 07:31
by sanman
ramana wrote: 31 Aug 2024 07:20 Blinken is doing his last dance of ineptitude.
Burning down bridges so his successor has hard work.
NeoCons have more glandular impulse than sense.

They are also busy foisting their will on the American people too. They look down upon their own citizenry, seeing the vast swathes of MIddle America as merely "flyover America"

Such schemers will only end up reviled by all.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 31 Aug 2024 08:08
by bala
Lots of fairy tales are being bandied by Dumbocrats about Donald John Trump. The facts are far from actual truth. DJT won against Hillary who was projected to be the darling choice of the Deep State, CIA/FBI/Judiciary/US Babucracy and more. The shock on her face for losing to DJT was priceless to say the least. When DJT took charge, the ISIS was running rampant and Radical Islamic terror was ruling the middle east and the world. DJT unloaded 50 tomahawks upon ISIS and that was the end of the Obummer/Hillary cultivated ISIS. That simple act put the fear of B'Jesus into many. Next the haughty Eurotards tried their uppitiness with DJT and he told them to pay for NATO. Next came the Chinese who tried to act smart but DJT being "art of the deal" author put them into a box, which meant they had to cut a deal with DJT. Border immigrant crossing from Mexico was stopped overnight because DJT told them that there would be tariffs on Mexico if they did not stop immigrants at the border. Mexico complied immediately. DJT opened up oil drilling in Alaska Anwr region and in fact he sold crude to India of all nations!

DJT was his own boss because he did not take money from anyone for his campaign. He wasn't beholden to anyone, period. The Deep State could not manipulate him so they went after him and came up with all kinds of ridiculous charges, impeachment and so forth. DJT is a business man and he wanted deals and peace throughout the world. Deals have hidden terms/conditions that many are not aware of and never is published anywhere. He says that nukes are a curse for mankind and any brinkmanship would be a mistake. While DJT was president there were no wars (which the Deep state hates, since they want chaos in the world to profit from). Contrast this with Obummer who came and lectured India with his farticle prescriptions. Obummer was a disaster for the US deficit he effectively doubled it during his 2 terms. He started the islamic faction within Dems. US, under the Dems, is headed into another UK disaster in terms of Islamic takeover. Now the Dems are effectively ruled by the Deep State with plastic smiles of State Dept Blinken and other shady, devious folks in US Admin.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 31 Aug 2024 09:26
by Dasari
Very explosive video of American Deep State which we all are aware of it for a very long time.

Now he made it open what their plans are for India along the lines of BD. India made a monumental blunder in the fractured mandate they gave in June 2024.

[youtube]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gWlBixXCgR0[/youtube]

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 31 Aug 2024 15:10
by sanman
California passes law to give illegal aliens $150K each, to put toward buying their own home

Since illegal aliens don't pay taxes, it will be taxpayers footing that bill.


Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 31 Aug 2024 21:41
by saip
I went outside and checked. The sky is NOT falling in California. My house insurance or auto insurance did NOT go up by FIFTY percent. I do not know whose did. That 150k is for ALL first time home buyers except the immigration status can not be the reason for refusal as long as they have Social Security numbers (probably under DACA). It is not being 'given' . It is a loan albeit without interest and has to be paid back along with 20% of increase in house value if the house is sold.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 31 Aug 2024 22:06
by sanman
saip wrote: 31 Aug 2024 21:41 I went outside and checked. The sky is NOT falling in California. My house insurance or auto insurance did NOT go up by FIFTY percent. I do not know whose did. That 150k is for ALL first time home buyers except the immigration status can not be the reason for refusal as long as they have Social Security numbers (probably under DACA). It is not being 'given' . It is a loan albeit without interest and has to be paid back along with 20% of increase in house value if the house is sold.
Sir -- saying that $150K for non-taxpaying home-buyers is innocuous, is like saying there should be insurance payouts for non-policy-holders who don't even pay premiums. Non-citizens are being given all the trappings of citizenship, when they don't even submit to all the obligations of citizenship.
Such sops are de-valuing the benefits of citizenship by treating citizen & non-citizen equally.

Who is subsidizing these interest-free loans? The taxpayers are. The law-abiding people. The suckers. The chumps.

It's well known that conservatives/Republicans can't even get elected in Commiefornia anymore.
It's well known that there is an exodus from the state happening.
Even worse, there is a ripple effect where the social parasitism is spreading outward to adjacent states. Even Colorado and Oregon have been contaminated by the wave of outward bound Commiefornians. Nearby Arizona and New Mexico are now being called purple states.

The Lefties know how to play their demographic game well, and are banking on its irreversibility.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 31 Aug 2024 22:52
by saip
My point is that the law (when passed and signed by Newsom - may or may not happen) when it is applicable to ALL Californians who are first time homebuyers but highlighting only undocumented immigrants, who may not be that many, is not called for. Calling it a grant when it is a loan is also wrong. Why not stick to facts?

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 31 Aug 2024 22:59
by chetak
Vivek Ramaswamy@VivekGRamaswamy

Kamala’s interview last night was a reminder that we’re not running against a candidate.

We’re running against a *system*.

They require a candidate they can control, which means having original ideas is a disqualification.

That’s exactly why we get Biden, then Kamala, and so on.



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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 31 Aug 2024 23:12
by chetak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G1jTMK5a1E



'The Five' reacts to Kamala Harris' CNN interview






‘The Five’ co-hosts discuss how Vice President Kamala Harris defended her changing positions during her first interview since becoming Democrats' 2024 candidate.


India will take major hits during her presidency, if maami is elected


trumpwa will do the same but may inflict lesser damage

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 31 Aug 2024 23:56
by sanman
saip wrote: 31 Aug 2024 22:52 My point is that the law (when passed and signed by Newsom - may or may not happen) when it is applicable to ALL Californians who are first time homebuyers but highlighting only undocumented immigrants, who may not be that many, is not called for. Calling it a grant when it is a loan is also wrong. Why not stick to facts?
Sir -- the way this word "undocumented" is used -- it's like me shoplifting and calling myself an "undocumented shopper"
("I'm not stealing, I'm just doing some undocumented shopping!")
This ugly language has also quickly leaked into Indian lexicon, since our monkey-see-monkey-do Leftists love to reflexively ape & parrot whatever they've heard from other Leftists elsewhere.
"Illegal aliens from Bangla are just doing the jobs that Indians refuse to do!" (as if there are no homegrown job-seeking poor in India) :roll:

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 01 Sep 2024 03:26
by Vayutuvan
saip wrote: 31 Aug 2024 22:52 ... highlighting only undocumented immigrants, who may not be that many, is not called for. Calling it a grant when it is a loan is also wrong. Why not stick to facts?
Others are guessing just like you. You are guessing that they may not be that many while others are guessing that "they may be a whole lot". Nobidy is sticking to the facts. What is a fact is that CA has turned into a socialist state freely distributing public money to everyone who comes there with a katora. Those who have some money are priced out of the RE market and had to leave the state. Let me restate this again - the AA population of SF has gone down to 5% from 10% after enormous gentrification that took place in that city. South bay areas folks are far from the Oakland and SF market street dirt and squalor or so they hope. They will start putting walls and have gated communities RSN to keep those "barbarains" far from their homes. But eventually the "barbarians" will be at the gates and break through to wreak havoc on these elitists.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 01 Sep 2024 03:33
by Vayutuvan
saip wrote: 31 Aug 2024 21:41 I went outside and checked. The sky is NOT falling in California.
Probably you sir, are living in the Apple distortion field which projects deep fakes on the ceiling of the silicon bubble under which you are living. :mrgreen:

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 01 Sep 2024 05:25
by sanman
Analysis of Kamala's body language



(imho, she seems to be channeling her mother - weak upbringing)

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 01 Sep 2024 07:39
by sanman
Strong words from Ohio congressman Dennis Kucinich - worth a listen:


Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 02 Sep 2024 00:07
by bala
The Hidden Relationship between USA and China I US China Future I Aadi

Aadi Achint says that US Pharma is secretly conducting trials with PLA by using guinea pigs from Xinjiang region. Rep Neal Dunn, Anna Eshoo, Molenaar, Raja Krishnamurthy are seeking answers from US FDA. The former NIH Chief Fauci lied about joint research with the Chinese on bio-weapon technology, Covid leaked out from the Chinese inadvertantly and infected the world with KungFlu. Covid is still infecting people in the US.



// I know Tis Understanding US thread. However this involves some covert nonsense between the US and Chinese. Can be moved to appropriate thread.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 02 Sep 2024 04:15
by sanman
bala wrote: 02 Sep 2024 00:07 The Hidden Relationship between USA and China I US China Future I Aadi

Aadi Achint says that US Pharma is secretly conducting trials with PLA by using guinea pigs from Xinjiang region. Rep Neal Dunn, Anna Eshoo, Molenaar, Raja Krishnamurthy are seeking answers from US FDA. The former NIH Chief Fauci lied about joint research with the Chinese on bio-weapon technology, Covid leaked out from the Chinese inadvertantly and infected the world with KungFlu. Covid is still infecting people in the US.
...
// I know Tis Understanding US thread. However this involves some covert nonsense between the US and Chinese. Can be moved to appropriate thread.
I do wonder why India doesn't get Global South to collectively demand some accountability from USA & China on the over 7 million COVID deaths that occurred worldwide. Even many Americans want these answers.

Whether or not US & China cooperate is less important than the pressure of embarrassment that can be put on them - especially when so many Americans also have misgivings about it.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 02 Sep 2024 09:31
by sanman

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 05 Sep 2024 20:15
by Cybaru
Reasonable thread that breaks down the justice department 200 page election interference document.

https://x.com/MarkHertling/status/1831436684237426829
"On a daily basis during my time in command of Army forces in Europe, every day the intelligence "black book" would provide more information on Putin's Russia attempts at malign influence against the west...and especially against the US.

Today, the
@TheJusticeDept
has taken action...but because of current divisions in the US, many Americans will have questions.

So let's talk about it...
1/2"

Here is an interesting link from this thread, the full 200 page document is also available for everyone to go through - Image

This will put a lot of Content creators that are on Russian dime out of business or face jail time...

Can this happen in India, it probably does, how can India ensure that such things are minimized.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 05 Sep 2024 22:17
by Cybaru
Oooof - the shit is falling apart.. Are they getting charged with treason?
More content creators to fall who are on Russian payroll...

https://x.com/Timcast/status/1831679367086301673
Tim Pool 🇺🇦 🇮🇱

@Timcast
·
3h
Upon reflection I now understand that Ukraine is our Greatest ally

As the breadbasket of Europe and a peace loving people we cannot allow the Fascist Russians to continue their crimes against humanity

We must redouble our efforts and provide an additional $200b at once

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 05 Sep 2024 22:42
by Tanaji
So in US talking about inflation and overspend marks you as a Russian agent as per this….

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 05 Sep 2024 22:48
by Mort Walker
Cybaru-ji,

I wonder how many are on the Ukrainian & US deep state payroll? Dems have raised a lot of money for doling out to SM influencers. How many in India is indeed a great question.

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Now some super comprehension logic individuals will say US reserves the right to meet with Indian political leaders.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 06 Sep 2024 00:33
by Cybaru
I think there needs to be a law like Logan act in India, where non ruling party members cannot meet foreign delegates or work on foreign policy. It needs teeth though unlike Logan act.. There is no need for US to meet with opposition parties, unless there is a sanctioned agreement in place.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 06 Sep 2024 01:53
by Mort Walker
I think Modi needs to visit with Trump & his team in Mar-a-Lago after meeting the Harris-Biden people later this month. Maybe a photo op with India promising $17B in arms deals by 2030 in return for Trump & future presidents keeping out of Indian subcontinent politics. Trump can also recommit to his promise of last year committed to a Hindu Holocaust memorial in Washington DC.

Modi should also visit Texas to encourage them exercise their rights to secession should Harris & jehadis win in November. India will provide moral & diplomatic support to Texas. The independent company BhraMos Aerospace will commit to supply Bhramos-ER self defense units to Texas and the entire SEC after winning the NCAA championship in January 2025.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 06 Sep 2024 02:06
by KL Dubey
saip wrote: 31 Aug 2024 21:41 I went outside and checked. The sky is NOT falling in California. My house insurance or auto insurance did NOT go up by FIFTY percent. I do not know whose did. That 150k is for ALL first time home buyers except the immigration status can not be the reason for refusal as long as they have Social Security numbers (probably under DACA). It is not being 'given'. It is a loan albeit without interest and has to be paid back along with 20% of increase in house value if the house is sold.
Yes. These threads are now almost completely taken over by garbage posts unloading what is essentially propaganda without taking a closer look first. A sad state of affairs for BRF, regrettably.

The CA home loan program exists already and the proposed amendment would allow certain illegal immigrants to also apply for the loan, assuming they meet all the other qualifying conditions for a loan that a citizen/legal immigrant would have to meet.

A large number of illegal immigrants do pay taxes using an IRS-issued ITIN number, and are allowed to stay in the US under various specific programs. In CA, I believe more than $10 billion/yr total taxes (of which around $4 billion/yr are state and local taxes, and the rest federal) are paid by illegal immigrants although they do not get eligibility for many government social services.

Illegal immigration must carry a penalty at the end of the day. I don't believe in the "no human is illegal" slogans often found in CA. But given that such labor has become essential in much of the US, the state of CA is grappling with ways to provide basic services to such people who are a productive part of society (and are not engaged in "peacefool" activities).

This is not the same situation as in Bharat. We have no shortage of domestic labor. Our border states are a result of giving away land in 1947, and not because we took it from some other country. All illegals in Bharat need to be deported unless they were escaping religious persecution in the neighboring countries.

As for this Sree Iyer fellow, I have stopped watching most of his programs since he mostly spouts BS. I sometimes watch his Monday program with journalist Rajagopalan - who has credible information ("scoops") to share and is connected to government sources in New Delhi.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 06 Sep 2024 02:28
by KL Dubey
Cybaru wrote: 06 Sep 2024 00:33 I think there needs to be a law like Logan act in India, where non ruling party members cannot meet foreign delegates or work on foreign policy. It needs teeth though unlike Logan act.. There is no need for US to meet with opposition parties, unless there is a sanctioned agreement in place.
Not workable.

Logan Act is a very specific legislation that prevents unauthorized US citizens from negotiating disputes between the US and foreign governments.

Other than that there is a vast spectrum of interactions between US officials of all kinds (from county to federal, both Dem and Rep) and foreign representatives.

Not to mention the 1000+ foreign principals that pay lobbyists: https://www.opensecrets.org/fara

There is no bar either in US or India for "discussing foreign policy issues", so long as any actionable proposals/matters are channeled only through the central/federal government in a transparent manner.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 06 Sep 2024 04:39
by ricky_v
Cybaru wrote: 05 Sep 2024 22:17 Oooof - the shit is falling apart.. Are they getting charged with treason?
More content creators to fall who are on Russian payroll...

https://x.com/Timcast/status/1831679367086301673
Tim Pool 🇺🇦 🇮🇱

@Timcast
·
3h
Upon reflection I now understand that Ukraine is our Greatest ally

As the breadbasket of Europe and a peace loving people we cannot allow the Fascist Russians to continue their crimes against humanity

We must redouble our efforts and provide an additional $200b at once

:lol: :lol: :lol: do you understand internet culture? The phrase "greatest ally" is always used to mock the phrase greatest ally that older fossilised scholars use unironically whenever they discuss Israel and need a tissue to wipe their tears and their excitement

If the phrase greatest ally is mentioned in a study, that is serious, if it is mentioned in internet posts, then it is most likely a shtpost, the online discourse has been this way ever since the us bombed the ever-loving crap out of the middle east for it's greatest ally

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 06 Sep 2024 05:13
by Cybaru
ricky_v wrote: 06 Sep 2024 04:39
Cybaru wrote: 05 Sep 2024 22:17 Oooof - the shit is falling apart.. Are they getting charged with treason?
More content creators to fall who are on Russian payroll...

https://x.com/Timcast/status/1831679367086301673

:lol: :lol: :lol: do you understand internet culture? The phrase "greatest ally" is always used to mock the phrase greatest ally that older fossilised scholars use unironically whenever they discuss Israel and need a tissue to wipe their tears and their excitement

If the phrase greatest ally is mentioned in a study, that is serious, if it is mentioned in internet posts, then it is most likely a shtpost, the online discourse has been this way ever since the us bombed the ever-loving crap out of the middle east for it's greatest ally

Oooh making it personal? Why? Just unnecessary...

I am just reporting news that may be useful to folks here...

U.S. Officials Allege Russian Operatives Illegally Provided $10 Million to Fund Videos by American Right-Wing Social Media Stars
https://variety.com/2024/digital/news/t ... 236131583/
Pool, also writing on X, said in part, “Should these allegations prove true, I as well as the other personalities and commentators were deceived and are victims.
:shrug:


According to the DOJ indictment, one of Tenet Media's producers didn’t want to post Tucker Carlson's grocery store trip in Russia because they thought it was not subtle enough for a Russian influence operation: “It just feels like overt shilling"

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Why is the DOJ calling them founder-1 and founder-2, are they co-operating witnesses?

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 06 Sep 2024 05:17
by Mort Walker
These threads are now almost completely taken over by garbage posts unloading what is essentially propaganda without taking a closer look first. A sad state of affairs for BRF, regrettably.
Tsk, tsk, <tounge clicking>. Stupid US policies are being called out for what they are & people can’t handle it. They can leave & good riddance.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 06 Sep 2024 05:21
by Mort Walker
Cybaru-ji,

Tim Pool is engaging in sarcasm. The Russia collusion, even if it’s true, merits scepticism based on past actions by the current regime.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 06 Sep 2024 06:21
by sanman
KL Dubey wrote: 06 Sep 2024 02:06 Yes. These threads are now almost completely taken over by garbage posts unloading what is essentially propaganda without taking a closer look first. A sad state of affairs for BRF, regrettably.

The CA home loan program exists already and the proposed amendment would allow certain illegal immigrants to also apply for the loan, assuming they meet all the other qualifying conditions for a loan that a citizen/legal immigrant would have to meet.

A large number of illegal immigrants do pay taxes using an IRS-issued ITIN number, and are allowed to stay in the US under various specific programs. In CA, I believe more than $10 billion/yr total taxes (of which around $4 billion/yr are state and local taxes, and the rest federal) are paid by illegal immigrants although they do not get eligibility for many government social services.
Illegal immigration is illegal and unwanted.

Illegal immigration must carry a penalty at the end of the day. I don't believe in the "no human is illegal" slogans often found in CA. But given that such labor has become essential in much of the US, the state of CA is grappling with ways to provide basic services to such people who are a productive part of society (and are not engaged in "peacefool" activities).
This is a human-trafficking game. National sovereignty is being eroded by profiteers - both political and economic profiteers.
This is not the same situation as in Bharat. We have no shortage of domestic labor. Our border states are a result of giving away land in 1947, and not because we took it from some other country. All illegals in Bharat need to be deported unless they were escaping religious persecution in the neighboring countries.
Laws need to be reflect that reality, so that these persecuted people will no longer be categorized as illegal.
Also, it's probably safer to impose some kind of initial residency quotas, so that they don't excessively concentrate in just one place and destabilize it. They should be distributed across a region that's near where they came from, but not all in one spot. Those quota alotments can be in proportion to existing native population levels. Each district can take in a share of the refugees based on that district's pre-existing population level.
As for this Sree Iyer fellow, I have stopped watching most of his programs since he mostly spouts BS. I sometimes watch his Monday program with journalist Rajagopalan - who has credible information ("scoops") to share and is connected to government sources in New Delhi.
Yeah, I like Rajagopalan too, but there are plenty of other good guests.

I watch Sree Iyer on PGurus, Aadi Achint on DEF Talks, Sanjay Dixit on Jaipur Dialoagues, General P R Shankar on Gunner Shot, Major Guarav Arya on Chanakya Dialogues, Sham Sharma Show, Vikrant Joshi on Review Master Vikrant, Alpha Defense

I also like Judge Napolitano, Alex Christoforou, John Mearsheimer, Scott Ritter, Col. Douglas MacGregor, Col Daniel Davis, among others.

Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 07 Sep 2024 00:08
by Cybaru
Is this deep state? Wired always has good coverage and analysis. The "Good Old USA plan" - Worth a read. How do we ensure this isn't happening / does not happen in India? It seems like a well thought through plan and parts of this have been active since 2016 election.

DOJ: Russia Aimed Propaganda at Gamers, Minorities to Swing 2024 Election
https://www.wired.com/story/project-goo ... -election/
In the conference room, Gambashidze was laying out his plans for a new target: Along with his colleagues, he began drafting what would become known as the Good Old USA Project. The project was supposed to influence the outcome of the US presidential election in favor of former president Donald Trump, specifically targeting certain minorities, swing-state residents, and online gamers, among others, in a scheme that included a full-time team dedicated to the cause.
Today’s announcement exposes the scope of the Russian government’s influence operations and their reliance on cutting-edge AI to sow disinformation,” FBI director Christopher Wray said in a statement. “Companies operating at the direction of the Russian government created websites to trick Americans into unwittingly consuming Russian propaganda.”
The documents show that the orchestrators of the campaign targeted existing divisions within US society, using racist stereotypes and far-right conspiracies to target supporters of former president Donald Trump.

​​"They are afraid of losing the American way of life and the ‘American dream,’” Gambashidze writes in one document outlining his “guerrilla media” plan. “It is these sentiments that should be exploited in the course of an information campaign in/for the United States.”
And the goal of the campaign, from the beginning, was crystal clear: “To secure victory for [Donald Trump],” Gambashidze wrote in the Good Old USA Project planning document.
The affidavit references one document maintained by the Social Design Agency, which is not included in the unsealed court documents, that contains a list of more than 2,800 people identified as influencers.
The Social Design Agency also maintains another list, again not included in the court documents, that tracks over 1,900 “anti-influencers” from 52 different countries, with US-based accounts
In order for this work to be effective, you need to use a minimum of fake news and a maximum of realistic information,” the document’s authors wrote. “At the same time, you should continuously repeat that this is what is really happening, but the official media will never tell you about it or show it to you.

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Re: Understanding the US - Again

Posted: 07 Sep 2024 00:36
by bala
Most of the articles in the US are opinions passed of as some pseudo truth according to which side you belong. Every nation in the world will be trying to interfere in other nation's elections. The Chinese, Russians, Iranians, ethiopians, guam, Indians, Germans, Swedes, Timbuktu, etc., will try to get their favorite candidate and also use counter favorites just to confuse the heck out. Didn't US interfere in Indian elections, in BD elections, that is the Dumbocrats in charge in 2024. Why is this some great gyan? The US is drenched with this BS about Russia, Russians are coming, russians are nasty, russians are bad and so on. The only truth is Hillary Clinton created a canard about DJT & Russia using Britshit agent and eventually she was involved in destroyed computers/storage/etc with some IT Puke dude. And being the sick demented sex crazed obsessed nation that the US is they came up with juicy stories to cover their pathetic asses. These are facts not opinions. All the rest are farts in the wind by all and sundry who wake up any day and spew forth nonsense.