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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 13 Jul 2024 20:59
by chetak
Rakesh wrote: 13 Jul 2024 18:44 And then some posters wonder why BRF views relations with Amreeka (and American military hardware) in such a hostile manner. There is a limit to shamelessness! How much longer will folks continue to defend the indefensible?
Rakesh saar,

here is what garcetti actually said.

Notice his tone where he mocks "strategic autonomy".



Eric Garcetti says "India likes its strategic autonomy, but in times of conflict, there is no such thing as strategic autonomy

Kiski Conflict Bhai?

Your Idiotic war is not our concern.



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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 13 Jul 2024 21:58
by bala
GarShitty is one of the worst ambassadors of US to India. What conflict, when the US instigated Ukraine against Russia with Nato as its back up to get into conflict with Russia. This is the higest hyprocracy there is in terms of basic buddhi/logic. To use an American phrase GarShitty as his name implies is "polishing the turd" in public. Please go back to your demented lunatic, maniacal, self-destructive deep state and tell them to take a hike. Enough of the lectures dude! Talk with some iota of sense (brain cells) which you have none.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 13 Jul 2024 22:11
by Rakesh
https://x.com/SJha1618/status/1514114318572290050 --->

America: 'We are monitoring human rights violations in India'

Also America: 'We are deeply committed to ever greater arms sales to India'

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 13 Jul 2024 22:20
by Rakesh
A simble hug to Putin Czar causes this much takleef in Dhobi Ghat!!!

https://x.com/DrIanHall/status/1811669240107401636 --->

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 13 Jul 2024 22:21
by Rakesh
chetak wrote: 13 Jul 2024 20:59 Eric Garcetti says "India likes its strategic autonomy, but in times of conflict, there is no such thing as strategic autonomy

Kiski Conflict Bhai?

Your Idiotic war is not our concern.
https://x.com/johnstanly/status/1811810858160271666 ---> India is not a NATO member. It's not a NATO partner. It's not a treaty ally of the US. It's not even a member of the 'Indo-Pacific 4'. Then why the US is so worked up about Indian PM's bilateral visit to a friendly country? Foreign policy is not, & should not be, a zero sum game.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 13 Jul 2024 22:30
by Rakesh
The inexhaustible American MIC relies on China :lol:

Click on the link below to read the rest of the Twitter thread...

https://x.com/balajis/status/1811864350833148145 ---> Indians will never be fighting for Taiwan because *Americans* will never be fighting for Taiwan. Reason: the US military is made in China.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 14 Jul 2024 01:08
by Amber G.
Modi's trip to Russia and US's reaction - I am old enough to remember about Canadian late Prime Minister Pierre Eliot Trudeau (father of Justin) when the US President Nixon tried to Stop him from visiting Communist Nations China/Russia.

The difference is India is much different that Canada -- in terms of putting pressure..

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 14 Jul 2024 03:45
by Kedar
We should always remember the words of Henry Kissinger when he said, "to be America's enemy is dangerous. To be its friend is fatal".

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 14 Jul 2024 10:18
by uddu
Shehzad Jai Hind (Modi Ka Parivar)
@Shehzad_Ind
Islamo-Woke Left- Radicalism is the biggest threat to our existence, way of life, national ambitions & security…
https://x.com/Shehzad_Ind/status/1812339259220602905

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 14 Jul 2024 15:27
by SRajesh
Will Trump take V Ramaswamy as his running mate???
Or a Female running mate to negate the Dems! :roll:
Either way having a Indian Origin person as a running mate; has that in anyway affected the relationship.
With the potshots being taken at strategic autonomy, how will the return of Trump Presidency affect our relationship??
I mean are going to go forward on Strategic Patnership (Hmm have doubts given Trumps call Make America Great again), Client State (definitely we have moved on from their and i dont think that will happen in 100 yrs to come), Transactional Relationship ( Probably only thing to be expected given Trumps penchant of moving everthing back into America and kicking the Europeans and the Jihadi's in the Cojones)
Will he move further on QUAD or dilute with Brit and the kanedians and the Euro-Mafia??

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 14 Jul 2024 16:20
by chetak
SRajesh wrote: 14 Jul 2024 15:27 Will Trump take V Ramaswamy as his running mate???
Or a Female running mate to negate the Dems! :roll:
Either way having a Indian Origin person as a running mate; has that in anyway affected the relationship.
With the potshots being taken at strategic autonomy, how will the return of Trump Presidency affect our relationship??
I mean are going to go forward on Strategic Patnership (Hmm have doubts given Trumps call Make America Great again), Client State (definitely we have moved on from their and i dont think that will happen in 100 yrs to come), Transactional Relationship ( Probably only thing to be expected given Trumps penchant of moving everthing back into America and kicking the Europeans and the Jihadi's in the Cojones)
Will he move further on QUAD or dilute with Brit and the kanedians and the Euro-Mafia??

SRajesh ji,


trump or no trump, Under his govt, India will follow its own policies

We haven't come this far to become some white man's camp follower, taking orders and doing his bidding

If Modi is out, flied lice will become the national dish

The BIF, especially the slant eyed snakes, are using the dimwit dynast as a mir jafar to breach fortress India


Also, given the concerted push against Hindus in the west, having Ramaswamy as a running mate would put trump at a grave risk of alienating many of his fundamentalist abrahamic voters.

At best, and if he plays his cards right, Ramaswamy may wind up as part of the trump administration.

If not, this may well be Ramaswamy's last shot. Too bad because he can/could have contribute(d) immeasurably for the good of his country

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 15 Jul 2024 21:18
by Amber G.
These kind of happenings are more relevant and important to long term relationship between India and US.

Xpost from Eduction dhaga:

From today's Indian Express:

From IIT Kanpur alum ( a friend) and Oregon State University President:

(With an expanding Indian diaspora on campus, the Oregon State University (OUS) is aiming to expand its footprint in India with more collaborations with Indian institutes)

IIT Kanpur opened up a world for me; hope to collaborate more with Indian universities’: Oregon State University President
Both, IIT Kanpur and Delhi have research work going on in areas that are important to Oregon State University as well. One example is in climate science, sustainability, and environmental energy. We came with the hope of learning about what they (the IITs) are doing about it, and get opportunities for our faculty members to collaborate with Indian faculty, have joint workshops, and more.

Further, we are in conversations with IIT Delhi, Hyderabad and Madras.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 15 Jul 2024 23:40
by Rakesh
The China Factor in Modi’s Mission to Moscow
https://www.project-syndicate.org/comme ... ey-2024-07
08 July 2024
Today, India maintains deeper and broader ties with the US than with Russia, but Nixon’s China opening still haunts the bilateral relationship. With its decades-long policy of aiding China’s economic rise, the US not only created the greatest strategic adversary it has ever faced, but also saddled India with a formidable military foe that is aggressively striving for regional hegemony. One manifestation of this is the Sino-Indian military standoff in the Himalayas, which is now in its fifth year.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 15 Jul 2024 23:43
by Rakesh
https://x.com/DivaJain2/status/1812072335899341016 ---> This is sanest western take on PM Modi's Russia visit I have read so far.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 16 Jul 2024 01:41
by bala
Donald Trump announced that Sen. JD Vance, (R) Ohio, will be his running mate and vice-presidential candidate in the 2024 presidential election.

BTW his wife is Usha Chilukuri Vance.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 16 Jul 2024 02:56
by sanman
bala wrote: 16 Jul 2024 01:41 Donald Trump announced that Sen. JD Vance, (R) Ohio, will be his running mate and vice-presidential candidate in the 2024 presidential election.

BTW his wife is Usha Chilukuri Vance.
JD Vance is supposed to favour containment of China.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 16 Jul 2024 03:38
by Tanaji
bala wrote: 16 Jul 2024 01:41 Donald Trump announced that Sen. JD Vance, (R) Ohio, will be his running mate and vice-presidential candidate in the 2024 presidential election.

BTW his wife is Usha Chilukuri Vance.
These pesky Indians are everywhere…..

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 16 Jul 2024 05:04
by sanjaykumar
Yeah, but in the US these people are graduates of Yale and Cambridge.

In Canada, Trudeau’s political elites are all graduates of Moga Driving School.

Well let’s see what Poliviere brings.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 16 Jul 2024 05:06
by sanjaykumar
Err… no disrespect to truckers intended.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 16 Jul 2024 06:11
by Vayutuvan
sanman wrote: 16 Jul 2024 02:56
bala wrote: 16 Jul 2024 01:41 Donald Trump announced that Sen. JD Vance, (R) Ohio, will be his running mate and vice-presidential candidate in the 2024 presidential election.

BTW his wife is Usha Chilukuri Vance.
JD Vance is supposed to favour containment of China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usha_Vance

She is in Ohio now. She went to Cambridge on Gates Cambridge Scholarship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gates_Cam ... cholarship
Criticism of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation[edit]

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation reduced its investments in non-renewable energy in 2016, after recipients of the Gates Cambridge Scholarship had urged the Foundation's trustees to divest from fossil fuels a year earlier.[10][11]

The Foundation gave Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi its 2019 Global Goalkeeper Award for the Swachh Bharat Mission[12] and the "progress India has made in providing safe sanitation under his leadership."[13] More than 100 Gates Cambridge Scholars and alumni had condemned the Foundation's decision, following the Indian government's decision to withdraw the special status of the disputed territory of Jammu and Kashmir.[14][15]
Is she one of them who signed this letter opposing the award to Modi? Does she support or oppose the abrogation of Article 370?

These questions need to be asked and answered.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 16 Jul 2024 09:04
by sanman

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 17 Jul 2024 00:30
by Amber G.
Vayutuvan wrote: 16 Jul 2024 06:11
Criticism of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation[edit]
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[13] More than 100 Gates Cambridge Scholars and alumni had condemned t...
...Is she one of them who signed this letter ..These questions need to be asked and answered.

/sigh .. here we go again../ About Gates scholarships:/ (<link> ..<link>

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has awarded over 5,000 scholarships worth over $1.6 billion to students worldwide, including the Gates Cambridge Scholarship, Gates Scholarship for minority students in the US, and other scholarships for undergraduate, graduate, and international students, totaling over $210 million annually.
The foundation has also committed over $1.2 billion to support higher education initiatives globally, making it one of the largest private scholarship providers in the world.
The Gates Cambridge Scholarship is a postgraduate award for students to study at the University of Cambridge. It is awarded to about 80 students every year (>2000 totals since 2000)

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 17 Jul 2024 02:36
by chetak

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 17 Jul 2024 03:05
by chetak
Trump’s VP pick Vance’s wife Usha, a lawyer, is from Andhra Pradesh.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 17 Jul 2024 06:01
by Vayutuvan
@Amber G ji, it would be very simple to check whether she signed the petition or not. If she did, Indian-Americans have a right to know and demand her views on abrogation of article 370. That said, it hardly matters as VPOTUS is not in the public eye, leave alone SLOTUS.

What POTUS's (and to some extent FLOTUS's) views matter the most. Some FLsOTUS were/are influential and some were not.

I don't know why you are finding fault with request for information on potential SLOTUS.

As far as I, a voting citizen, am concerned there are no sacred political cows ... err ... Elephants or Donkeys.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 17 Jul 2024 07:21
by sanjaykumar
Great photograph of the happy couple.

If I weren’t a hippie, I’d vote Republican :wink:

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 17 Jul 2024 07:58
by sanman
chetak wrote: 17 Jul 2024 02:36
PDF Copy here: https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... MNN10KSzqZ
So India has been pursuing a goal of Multi-Polar World order, which it will benefit from, rather than continuing to suffer under US hegemony.

What your CSIS paper says is that US will seek to perpetuate its hegemony by pursuing a counter-strategy of encouraging a Multi-Polar India
(aka. Divide-&-Rule)

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 17 Jul 2024 10:47
by chetak
sanman wrote: 17 Jul 2024 07:58
chetak wrote: 17 Jul 2024 02:36
PDF Copy here: https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... MNN10KSzqZ
So India has been pursuing a goal of Multi-Polar World order, which it will benefit from, rather than continuing to suffer under US hegemony.

What your CSIS paper says is that US will seek to perpetuate its hegemony by pursuing a counter-strategy of encouraging a Multi-Polar India
(aka. Divide-&-Rule)
sanman ji,

What strikes me the most is that some conceited white punk assumes that they have the divine right to interfere in India's internal affairs and reset the local ecosystem to benefit them yet again.

They want to colonize us once more and for the very same reasons that the britshits did

They seek to plunder resources, deploy Indian boots on the ground (as in WWI & WWII), and hegemonize the native population and the fertile land

They tried and failed with the pakis and so now they are seeking to subjugate the Hindus and coopt them into their perpetually rent seeking war machine, thus hoping, on a geopolitical scale, to ensure a market for their battle tested MIC built weapons and systems.

Momentarily, they slipped off the velvet glove to give us a very brief glimpse of their rusted and corroded iron hand.

Also, the contours of the games that are being played by the eyetaalian mafia, under the tutelage of the BIF, are becoming clearer as the days go by

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 17 Jul 2024 15:15
by sanman
chetak wrote: 17 Jul 2024 10:47 sanman ji,

What strikes me the most is that some conceited white punk assumes that they have the divine right to interfere in India's internal affairs and reset the local ecosystem to benefit them yet again.

They want to colonize us once more and for the very same reasons that the britshits did

They seek to plunder resources, deploy Indian boots on the ground (as in WWI & WWII), and hegemonize the native population and the fertile land

They tried and failed with the pakis and so now they are seeking to subjugate the Hindus and coopt them into their perpetually rent seeking war machine, thus hoping, on a geopolitical scale, to ensure a market for their battle tested MIC built weapons and systems.

Momentarily, they slipped off the velvet glove to give us a very brief glimpse of their rusted and corroded iron hand.

Also, the contours of the games that are being played by the eyetaalian mafia, under the tutelage of the BIF, are becoming clearer as the days go by
Yes -- and this article promoting meddling inside India's internal politics then triggered me so sharply, that I had to think of a counter-strategy against their foreign meddling strategy of sub-nationalism inside India.

So my strategy is as follows:
We should note that certain Vote Bank present in all states across India has a natural leaning towards anti-Americanism and not just anti-BJPism. Therefore it becomes useful for nationalists to cultivate cooperation with that Vote Bank on certain issues of common concern, to make common cause with them. This would naturally involve nationalist parties leaning into anti-US rhetoric specifically during election campaigning, among other forms of outreach. The common goal would be to punish any regional parties who join hands with US foreign meddling. Furthermore, we can encourage Vote Bank to form its own party, which would take away votes from regional parties who normally chase Vote Bank votes. At that point, Vote Bank becomes a formal competitor to regional parties, and not merely their lackies.

So then we nationalists don't have to condemn Congis for saying "Osama-ji" -- instead we can all compete on who can use that honorific more. Then see how Americans like the tables being turned on them. If Americans don't like Modi visiting Russia, then I'm sure they'll have a fit if we host a visit from Iran's Khamenei while holding hands with Vote Bank (we can invite the whole goddamned Vote Bank to show up, and let's see if Congis have the guts to stay away)

In order to discourage American foreign meddling in India, we should adopt strategies that firmly demonstrate to them that this will achieve outcomes they do not like. "Poison Pill" strategy, if you will.

We must not allow theft of our sovereignty, which we hold dear.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 18 Jul 2024 01:31
by sanman
I really liked this talk -- one of the guest panelists gave a nice insider perspective, and she expressed herself very well:


Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 18 Jul 2024 03:35
by Najunamar
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 817941.cms

The new ambassador to U.S. is a seasoned diplomat

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 18 Jul 2024 06:23
by saip
She did not sign the petition. But it could be that she was not aware of the petition.

The petition

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 18 Jul 2024 06:50
by vera_k
^ Look at the dates. She was at Cambridge around 2010. Generally good imo if not too interested in Indian politics unlike the Khalistani offspring.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 18 Jul 2024 17:47
by Rakesh
Why West's Frustration Over Modi's Russia Visit Makes No Sense
https://www.ndtv.com/opinion/why-wests- ... 01-6111420
16 July 2024

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 18 Jul 2024 17:47
by Rakesh
India-US ties under Modi echo Nehru’s reluctance to commit. Hope consequences aren’t the same
https://theprint.in/opinion/india-us-ti ... e/2177528/
17 July 2024

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 18 Jul 2024 20:18
by sanman
Republican National Convention is getting more diverse

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 18 Jul 2024 20:20
by chetak
Did Pakistani journalist hint at India's involvement in Trump's assassination attempt



https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/di ... psubsc-v1a

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 19 Jul 2024 01:24
by Amber G.
sanman wrote: 18 Jul 2024 20:18 Republican National Convention is getting more diverse
MUCH MORE concerning for USA, India and most decent folks like me is that Harmeet Dhillon is aspiring to become the Attorney General if Donald Trump wins. That won't be for good anyone. She is well known (was there in 2016 giving the same kind of speech and other works in later years)n she and her Managing Partner and founder are pretty well known Khalistani supporters and support anti Indian activities. Her law firm, Dhillon Law Group boasts about taking cases for 'Sikh rights and discrimination'. (She was introduces as "Sikh" (and some times with "Punjabi" or even "South Asian" .. never as Indian American although born in Chandigarh to a Indian family n 1969)

(I am glad to see there is some mention and concern of her is Indian Media)

(Eg she has accused of India running death squad to kill Sikhs & exactly has nor provided any evidence to back up her ridiculous claim... along with many anti-hindu tweets from her (and her supporters) in her SM)..

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 19 Jul 2024 02:07
by sanman
Amber G. wrote: 19 Jul 2024 01:24
sanman wrote: 18 Jul 2024 20:18 Republican National Convention is getting more diverse
MUCH MORE concerning for USA, India and most decent folks like me is that Harmeet Dhillon is aspiring to become the Attorney General if Donald Trump wins. That won't be for good anyone. She is well known (was there in 2016 giving the same kind of speech and other works in later years)n she and her Managing Partner and founder are pretty well known Khalistani supporters and support anti Indian activities. Her law firm, Dhillon Law Group boasts about taking cases for 'Sikh rights and discrimination'. (She was introduces as "Sikh" (and some times with "Punjabi" or even "South Asian" .. never as Indian American although born in Chandigarh to a Indian family n 1969)

(I am glad to see there is some mention and concern of her is Indian Media)

(Eg she has accused of India running death squad to kill Sikhs & exactly has nor provided any evidence to back up her ridiculous claim... along with many anti-hindu tweets from her (and her supporters) in her SM)..
Yes, I'm aware. I liked her at first, but then when I saw her coming out first with opportunistic political statements, and later with blatant anti-India statements, then I used to reply to her Tweets to rebut her.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 19 Jul 2024 03:36
by sanjaykumar
Cope and seethe?

I think they may be chuckling, not seething.