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by Prem Kumar
23 Oct 2020 11:54
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

In Nirbhay's case, I can understand the reasons for delay in induction. It took a while for ADE to get its act together. And now its a new engine & so failures are expected. NAG/Namica is a case of sheer apathy on the part of armed forces. Hopefully, this time around, their attitude will be diff...
by Prem Kumar
22 Oct 2020 20:27
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5260
Views: 564309

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Good catch. But its an important data point in favor of OIT & I hadn't seen before now
by Prem Kumar
22 Oct 2020 20:26
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

A so-called SANT test was done a few days back, but with no official acknowledgement. Now this. Maybe these tests are related
by Prem Kumar
22 Oct 2020 12:39
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5260
Views: 564309

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

The evidence for OIT is coming thick & fast!! New paper by Gyaneshwar Chaubey & others. They analyzed ancient-mtDNA from Mesopotamia and demonstrate that these are descendants of people from the Indian Subcontinent. The aDNA is from samples ranging from 2500 BCE till 500 AD. The authors also...
by Prem Kumar
21 Oct 2020 14:30
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5260
Views: 564309

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Another blow to AIT & support for OIT Researcher Chakraborthy confirms pervasive milk-product-usage in the Indus Valley Civilization from at least as far back as 2500 BCE !! Its interesting to note that the earliest lactase-persistence in Europe was discovered in an individual there between 2450...
by Prem Kumar
18 Oct 2020 14:55
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Yep - something cooking. Maybe it was the ER version. It was against a live target. The reports also say that it performed very complex maneuvers.
by Prem Kumar
18 Oct 2020 12:43
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

A few nuggets from Rout's article on the Prithvi-2 test: 1) 350Km range, with a 1 tonne warhead. Wiki says Prithvi-2 is a 250Km range missile - not true. Hope they also test (if they haven't already) an extended range Prithvi-2 with a 500Kg warhead 2) Maneuvering trajectory with a single digit CEP 3...
by Prem Kumar
16 Oct 2020 16:28
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Look, it appears that you don't post here regularly. If you are going to offer your opinion, back it up with some data. Everyone benefits. Otherwise, you're wasting forum bandwidth
by Prem Kumar
16 Oct 2020 16:03
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

lakshmanM wrote:Puhlease, look at the typical flight altitude and separation velocity of both missiles.
Subsonic, sea-skimming missile, released from a slow platform vs high altitude, supersonic missile, released from a fast aircraft


Are you privy to these details? If so, please share.
by Prem Kumar
16 Oct 2020 13:04
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2
Replies: 2357
Views: 386528

Re: India's Border Security with China and Pakistan-2020 - Part 2

Anyone could have built a few dams and IITs Even this myth has been busted. It was not Bandit Nehru but some other gentleman who was responsible for the setting up of IITs. There was a spate of articles on this a few months ago. Seems to be another myth-building attempt by the Congress over the las...
by Prem Kumar
16 Oct 2020 13:00
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Much-needed boost, but some of these specs seem completely off:

A 55Km range missile weighting 380Kg but a 270 Km range missile has a 200Kg weight. Even if we assume that the warheads are of different classes, these numbers seem very odd
by Prem Kumar
14 Oct 2020 18:04
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Military Helicopters
Replies: 5148
Views: 1045238

Re: Indian Military Helicopters

Its evident that everyone (even someone as pro-indigenous as IN) has their pet-peeves and an inability to shed past baggage, however justified they might have been at that time. But national objectives go beyond such peeves. Its clear that the ex-HAL chairman is making a commitment the they will del...
by Prem Kumar
12 Oct 2020 15:01
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Though I am not a fan of the ADE, if the Nirbhay test failed because we rushed with the testing, I look at that as a positive. It means that the labs are working on a war-footing! Our too-cautious & must-never-fail approach was one of the reasons why the Tejas took as long as it did. Failure wit...
by Prem Kumar
12 Oct 2020 11:00
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion
Replies: 3473
Views: 723809

Re: Airborne Early Warning & Control: News & Discussion

2020 seems to be the year of wisdom. May our dreams come true & IAF orders more Netras!
by Prem Kumar
11 Oct 2020 14:48
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: UAVs, Drones, Remote Surveillance Tech
Replies: 2401
Views: 513449

Re: UAVs, Drones, Remote Surveillance Tech

Agree with fanne: 1) We have built complex, world-class flying machines like the Tejas 2) We have cutting edge electro-optical payloads, thanks to advances by ISRO in Cartosat, plus DRDO's efforts in LORROS etc 3) We had a 2 decade head-start with Nishant & Lakshya 4) Tech for Satcoms, ODLs etc ...
by Prem Kumar
11 Oct 2020 14:34
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Not sure the need for Pralay when there is Shaurya, much rather focus the effort on Prahar which will serve our need for a cheap tactical ballistic missile. Prahaar & Pralay give extended artillery reach beyond 155mm and Pinaka to the IA. The Shaurya, in our infinite wisdom, is under SFC (even ...
by Prem Kumar
10 Oct 2020 13:28
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Small Armaments & Infantry Equipment - News & Discussion
Replies: 842
Views: 177211

Re: Small Armaments & Infantry Equipment - News & Discussion

So y’all have a 800yd rifle kitted out with a holosun sight good for 50yd at best and used for cqc ? Noice. Speaks volumes. On the flip side you have a white light on before the muzzle which makes a lot of sense. But no nods or n enabled eqpt. Still living in the good ole nam era. Rs_singh: I see a...
by Prem Kumar
10 Oct 2020 13:22
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: UAVs, Drones, Remote Surveillance Tech
Replies: 2401
Views: 513449

Re: UAVs, Drones, Remote Surveillance Tech

Some forward movement on Rustom-2. DRDO is on a roll! https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/drdo-s-rustom-2-drone-flight-tested-india-goes-for-armed-heron-uavs/story-CZ5jd9tRo6Ph2jcq2HOpmM.html Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO) on Friday flight tested the Rustom-2 medium altit...
by Prem Kumar
10 Oct 2020 11:25
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Saurav Jha's DDR claimed in one of their earlier NGARM schematic that the missile has a MMW seeker, so that it can seek & destroy the target even if the target stops emitting. The latest reports post-test make no mention of an MMW seeker (in addition to the passive homing seeker). Does anyone ha...
by Prem Kumar
09 Oct 2020 22:29
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

JTull wrote:


In this video, there is a very visible wobble when it free falls & before the booster ignites. Is this normal?

I think the air-launched Brahmos separation was quite clean, if memory serves me right
by Prem Kumar
09 Oct 2020 18:32
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

This is a scorching pace by DRDO!! TOI report has many interesting nuggets: 1) Range is 100Km to 200 Km !! (the original article said "beyond" 200 Km. It has since been edited to say "upto" 200 Km) 2) Speed of launch can be Mach 0.6 to Mach 2 3) Pre-programmable against a wide ba...
by Prem Kumar
09 Oct 2020 11:37
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

tsarkar: thanks for the wonderful post about TAL, ALWT etc. Delightful read! But I don't understand your insistence about the unsuitability of SMART with anything other than SOSUS arrays. I can envisage various scenarios (& others have pointed them out as well): 1) Sea denial of subs from the co...
by Prem Kumar
08 Oct 2020 11:22
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

A UVLS at its basic, seem to be a square cross-section tube with wirings for various diagnostic/weapon programming/launch connectors, as well as venting mechanisms if it supports a hot launch. Probably has some shock and spall-proof armour to prevent ammo-cookoff during a missle strike nearby. If t...
by Prem Kumar
07 Oct 2020 21:51
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: UAVs, Drones, Remote Surveillance Tech
Replies: 2401
Views: 513449

Re: UAVs, Drones, Remote Surveillance Tech

Question for ADE; what's going on with Rustom? Why aren't even non-weaponized versions flying? Given that countries like Armenia, Azerbaijan, Iran and Turkey are deploying armed drones in battle, its a shame that we don't have even 1 home-grown UAV in service. Especially considering that Nishant &am...
by Prem Kumar
07 Oct 2020 19:28
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Dimensions Nirbhay: length 6m, dia 0.5m Brahmos: length 8.4m, dia 0.6m Shaurya/K15/B05: length 10m, dia 0.74m So, I am not sure if a Universal VLS is possible to accommodate all of the above. Unless you build one to accommodate Shaurya and there is a provision for sleeves to snugly hold the smaller...
by Prem Kumar
06 Oct 2020 14:04
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

There's been some discussion about ASBM in the previous page. DRDO has a dedicated ASBM project. Some key requirements for an ASBM that's different from SMART: 1) Longer ranger. Must be 1500 Km+ at least 2) The missile must have a seeker. For SMART, that's taken care of by the sub-munition, i.e. the...
by Prem Kumar
06 Oct 2020 13:54
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

tsarkar: can a sub out-dive a torpedo? Example: TAL's max depth is 540m. What's the max-depth of ALWT, if you know?
by Prem Kumar
06 Oct 2020 12:23
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Slightly different PoV here: 1) The MoD report was referring to engagements "far beyond torpedo range (50-650 km)"; I read that as a typical HWT torpedo ranges being 50-65 Km (650 being a typo because HWTs will only go so far) 2) It is cutting edge technology FOR US . We didn't have somet...
by Prem Kumar
06 Oct 2020 00:39
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

That isn't necessarily true in all possible concepts of employment. There is some utility in being fast and then going slow. The former provides great time to target and bypasses many mid-and terminal course defenses. The latter allows the unleashing potential sensors and sensor/shooters that offer...
by Prem Kumar
06 Oct 2020 00:26
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

As Saurav Jha says, for once, we are not the "5th country to develop this capability". We are the first country to have such a game-changing, standoff ASW capability. We can build doctrines & networking capabilities that will take advantage of such a weapon. And SMART was developed in ...
by Prem Kumar
06 Oct 2020 00:21
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Yep, we can have land based ALH, Coast Guard ALH, Dornier etc all acting as sensors. Not to mention UAVs. It just opens up a whole range of possibilities
by Prem Kumar
06 Oct 2020 00:19
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Can it be deployed on ships? Range has hopefully been minimized because of it is entirely shore based, more range would be of great help. India's own sub AND carrier killer? 1) From the pics, it looks like the carrier missile is based on Shaurya. The 650 Km range also corroborates this 2) If its Sh...
by Prem Kumar
05 Oct 2020 23:03
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

For those questioning the 650 Km range, its clearly mentioned in the MoD 2018-2019 annual report. Thanks to "The Week"'s article that Swarajya republished, that had this reference https://www.mod.gov.in/sites/default/files/MoDAR2018.pdf Check page 105 Supersonic Missile Assisted Release of...
by Prem Kumar
05 Oct 2020 22:08
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

The main thing that SMART achieves is the sensor-shooter separation. Sensors (today & future) P8I Sonobuoys ASW Helis (with or without torpedoes) ASW corvettes & other ships Coast Guard vessels UAVs like Sea Guardians & unarmed UAVs UUVs Future SOSUS like arrays Shooters Ships Land-based...
by Prem Kumar
05 Oct 2020 13:34
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5260
Views: 564309

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

Request you to kindly remove the link. Let's link Talageri's response, which is sure to come as you mention. Witzel is a long-in-the-tooth joker. No need for us to give publicity to his garbage All these years, Western Indologists were afraid of taking on Talageri because of his rigor. So, they pret...
by Prem Kumar
05 Oct 2020 00:10
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Light Combat Helicopter: News & Discussion: 10 August 2020
Replies: 141
Views: 31029

Re: Light Combat Helicopter: News & Discussion: 10 August 2020

Since the powers-that-be, seem to be accelerating the testing/induction of armaments these past few weeks (maybe they're reading BRF), here's a plug:

1) Hope a big order for LCH is placed ASAP, cutting through the red tape
2) Rapid testing/induction of Helina mated with LCH/Rudra
by Prem Kumar
05 Oct 2020 00:04
Forum: Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum
Topic: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2
Replies: 5260
Views: 564309

Re: Out-of-India - From Theory to Truth: Part 2

An excellent article that talks about the missing link between Harappan civilication and the Vedic people. Provides good evidence about how the fire altars at Kalibangan etc were really Vedic altars. Also debunks claims by charlatans like Anthony who tried to make Kurgan burials look like Ashwamedha...
by Prem Kumar
04 Oct 2020 15:17
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

Even if Shourya was not inducted, about which there is a question mark, there could be good reason why. Why spend the money if plain-old Agnis will do the job? The range means its a Pakistan specific missile when based on land. Its trump card is non-ballistic, low altitude (40km) trajectory. Its ve...
by Prem Kumar
03 Oct 2020 16:49
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

I am not sure whether to lungi-dance or grind my teeth. On the one hand, we see our dreams come true - proven desi weapons getting through a rapid testing/induction cycle. OTOH, it points to a systemic failure of imagination & planning that such systems aren't already in service. 1) Dev trials c...
by Prem Kumar
03 Oct 2020 16:42
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018
Replies: 3639
Views: 1018802

Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018

We badly need conventionally armed BMs, CMs and BGRVs available to the IA to strike back. Keeping Shaurya & Prithvi solely under the SFC doesn't make any sense. Hope the ANI report is wrong.

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