Bharat Rakshak

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Cmde.Mao is way too senior to be doing test flights. After several years on the Tejas, he's now working on NLCA. How about the next cohort taking over actual flight testing To be a long-term test pilot for R&D in IAF/IN means forfeiting promotions. Those who stay with the test flight program re...

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Work happens in parallel. Official sanctioning (i.e. funding) apart, R&D is a multi-year effort over many aspects that go on to become an end product like Netra or AWACS-I. Pieces build upon previous gains.

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I think it’s for gun shield. Gun is located around that area.

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What role will naval tejas serve if it is inducted? With navy wanting 57 twin engine MRCA in the form of mig 29k, f-18, naval raf, even if naval tejas is inducted in limited numbers of say 20 aircraft, how will it be used? As a fleet air defense fighter. Or will it replace the jag maritime strike a...

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Karan M wrote:By "Indian industry" - gives an opportunity for all pvt vendors to break into the 125mm tank ammo market, hitherto the preserve of OFB.

Positive move. Unlike OFB, private entities, like VEM, go on to improve upon often “bulky” DRDO products. Innovation takes off.

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Sources conrm that the landing speed of NP-1 was at 132 knots and the sink rate at 4.4 m/s while the arrester hook load was about 37 tonnes. Before carrier landings, we will see 5.6m+ sink rates achieved. ... LCA-N engineers and pilots need to be confident that the fighter can slam down onto the de...

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^^^ https://twitter.com/SandeepUnnithan/status/1172437989303046147?s=20 https://www.devdiscourse.com/remote.axd?https://devdiscourse.blob.core.windows.net/devnews/13_09_2019_09_04_28_7733087.jpg?width=1280 DRDO, ADA successfully execute first-ever arrested landing of LCA (Navy) DRDO and ADA today su...

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In the interim, get those 2 Phalcons (total 5 IAF) and 3 Netras (total 5 IAF + 1 DRDO). Allows for coverage of two areas 250-400km radius continuously. Use Phalcons for defensive role while Netras for offensive support.

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They missed the second order in their report.

* 2 squadrons (I think these were Gwalior and Pune)

* 6 squadrons (some were deployed NE)

* 6-7 squadrons (current order in process)

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Why would anyone want to operate F-15's when you already have Su-30's and are getting Rafales? What is the huge advantage could you get from it that offsets the problems of adding yet another type to the zoo? Not going to happen. Having said that, a fantasy would be to pick up a handful for a TADCE...

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^^^ The seeker can be added as part of an upgrade to Mk1. Same missile Mk1 and Mk1S. We may see partial Mk1S upgrades and remaining retained as Mk1 for a combo mix. May offer some advantages to a battery with mixed missiles in two guidance modes (command and active). Mk1 efficacy is well proven. NG ...

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Rs. 45,000 crore orders for 83 LCA fighter means Rs. 542.17 crore each. HAL initially asked for around Rs. 450 crore each...

Getting comic with all these totals being thrown around

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What we don’t know is what the original quote included/excluded? And how the quote was brought down by excluding what inclusions?

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So they wasted 2-years just to reduce the price by Rs 5,000 crore [from Rs 50,000 crore to Rs 45,000 crore] :roll: Incorrect. AON benchmark and approval was 50,000. Price quoted by HAL was much higher. Hence the delay. Kindly check this thread carefully. Disappointing that it is hard to get cut thr...

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By all indications, Astra Mk1 is ready for induction and has been accepted by the end user. But the orders have not come forth. Hence, your point about being stuck in #3. You need larger orders to scale the industry and provide optimal support. Low orders in piecemeal fashion ain’t gonna do that.

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https://twitter.com/hvtiaf/status/1170137621332283392?s=21 LCA Mk-1A; "Wings will be made by L&T, front fuselage by Dynamatic Technolologies, the middle section by VEM & rear section by Alpha Design" @SPsAviation A new age of collaborative working, away from traditional mindsets. ...

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The Acceptance of Necessity given by the Defence Ministry over two years ago was Rs 50,000 crore but the price determined by the ministry's cost committee was reduced to around Rs 45,000 crore. So they wasted 2-years just to reduce the price by Rs 5,000 crore [from Rs 50,000 crore to Rs 45,000 cror...

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^^^ Agree. 50 —> so called “production” setup 100 —> labeled as “initial” order ??? —> ??? Even though in the article it states: The extensive and rigorous trials have successfully validated the Astra missile’s warhead capability, its maximum launch ranges against both head-on and manoeuvring target...

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The Astra Mark 1, which successfully completed the trials recently, has a maximum head-on launch range of 100 km , a speed of 4.5 Mach and is cleared for launch up to an altitude of 20 km (66,000 ft). Original: 80km head-on https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQ29jBxHGmYuoqUPJpr7...

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That fact that HAL went ahead with HTT 40 without any ready purchaser (i.e. IAF) showing any interest and out of their own funds is very good thing. Hope they take such efforts in future also. Not if GOI suck them dry totally, like they have done it now. money not paid for more than 1 yrs deliverie...

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Support contract is mandatory if we don’t want to see hanger queens. We have heard it often enough complaints from end users about domestic products “low” serviceability rates. The broken system doesn’t allow for timely procurement of spares. End users don’t necessarily budget adequately for support...

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Don’t be surprised when the “support package” addition brings the final acquisition closer to the original quoted price

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Now they are going to discuss “support package”

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I have never seen anyone other than IAF classify LCA as a less than 4th Gen aircraft.

Three-legged Cheetah
MiG-21++

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He may be 1 Officer but was representing the IAF in court as a senior most exec i.e. AVM.

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... 3. It is still a 4+ generation design (no LO) with avionics and other tech which was cutting edge as of 2005, but now we are in 2020 (think AESA, fusion, AA weapons (like meteor), towed decoys etc.) ... According to the court testimony given by senior IAF officers recently, they had classified ...

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Makes sense to be honest. Then why would the IAF agree to buy only 12 more Su-30 MKIs? Here a SU-30MKI is better than upgraded M2K in both WVR and BVR!!! They like the under-powered Jags? Parrikar had asked similar questions as to why not Su-30MKIs instead of MMRCA. Main reason seems to be operatio...

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Matra-BAe AIM-132 ASRAAM - The RAAF's New WVR AAM Some interesting tidbits ... The AIM-132 ASRAAM - A Technical Perspective The ASRAAM is radically different in many respects from other established and development missiles designed for WVR combat. The missile is heavily optimised for best possible ...

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^^^ All these cost comparisons are for nothing if we don’t know the details of what is included/ excluded. Going by Rafael deal, 50%-60% of the costs are non-airframe related. But to prove a point from unnamed “sources”, you could selectively pick and chose your numbers to make something look good o...

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https://www-nextbigfuture-com.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/www.nextbigfuture.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/amca1-1.jpg https://alchetron.com/cdn/hal-amca-3bce65bb-3223-4939-94cc-78bad9b0c32-resize-750.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hwyIJgs.png https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTkL60Oa4pyCA...

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Cybaru wrote:
Kartik wrote:Apparently there is a tender out for pylon mounted MAWS sensors for the Tejas Mk1A. Read this on another forum.

Front and Rear? what does it look like?

DARE version maybe?

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The current trend in customer expectation seems to be that HAL funds its own R&D/integration without any guarantees. Then haggle on final costs on purchase/integration into the fleet. Seeing this across multiple programs.

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Not doubting your calculations, but how did you arrive at the +-10% number? No serious calculations behind it, just intuition. In terms of refinement in aerodynamics they are both pushing the ceiling which is not going to move much unless we find out better ways of generating lift and thrust. There...

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... 12 Su 30 addition will take the total buy to 284 nos of which 9 have crashed. Will result in 14.5 sq @ 18/sq. ... 13.5 squadrons including reserves https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/iaf-planning-to-order-8-new-su-30mki-combat-aircraft-from-hal/articleshow/67600926.cms ... Sources said th...

srai · Re: Indian Missiles News & Discussions - 17 Dec 2018 ^^^ A Desi MICA IR/RF

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A Desi MICA IR/RF

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Not heard of it yet.

If this twin CCM/SPJ combo is possible, then a BVR missile weight-wise shouldn’t be a problem.

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I would add 3-years to the timelines given. The Indian aerospace industry (and the end users) are still not mature enough to deliver in the optimistic/ideal timeframes. Problems will be encountered in a complex program. From other Indian programs, we can see risk aversion as a crash means a setback ...

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^^^ Someone needs to get the breakdown of the deal as to what was included/excluded. If we look at Rafale purchase, around 50-60% of the costs were for things like PBL, weapons, infrastructure, training and customization. These costs are either paid for as part of the original contract, or under ser...

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My guess is that most likely HAL took out 5-year type of PBL support (as seen with Rafale, C-17, C-130, etc) from the Mk1A contract to reduce those initial prices. More closer to just the fly-away unit prices. GoI/IAF will end up paying those support costs eventually while operating the fleet. Rs 25...

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Wasn't that last year deal. The 32 Jags per rumor are not fly away units but used for spares (it would be good if we can fly them). The 2 M2K are flyaway and per rumor they will get upgraded to 2000i standards. As the MiG-29, Jaguar and Mirage-2000 era come to a gradual end world over in the next 1...

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