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by mandrake
30 Nov 2006 21:56
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India tests Prithvi based ABM-2
Replies: 324
Views: 109546

Can someone tell me which company actually designed the seeker of Arrow 2?
by mandrake
30 Nov 2006 21:54
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India tests Prithvi based ABM-2
Replies: 324
Views: 109546

This could be a spin off from Talbott-Jaswant talks? ABM against TSP and China may limit the Indian arsenal to K. Subramaniam advocated numbers than the Bharat karnad numbers-thereby still consistent with DND and CMD? Pure speculation on my part-but could be true. Yes, That is why Uncle encourages ...
by mandrake
30 Nov 2006 21:45
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India tests Prithvi based ABM-2
Replies: 324
Views: 109546

Can someone tell me which company manufactures the seekers of Arrow 2? just wondering.
by mandrake
30 Nov 2006 11:34
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India tests Prithvi based ABM-2
Replies: 324
Views: 109546

Yups Rishi, I've posted thisearlier though.
a simple googling reveals this.
by mandrake
30 Nov 2006 01:59
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India tests Prithvi based ABM-2
Replies: 324
Views: 109546

Dont worry Russians will never give chinese "their best".
They have their own security issue as they had border dispute and chinas govt has this odd obsession of annexxation.
by mandrake
30 Nov 2006 01:12
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India tests Prithvi based ABM-2
Replies: 324
Views: 109546

The one thing though is that China can purchase ABM technology from Russia. Thinking about it, if there is this Sino-Russia alliance that is brewing, wouldn't it be in Russia's interest to give China the S-300 technology? This in turn can then be given to Pakistan at their request in a "joint ...
by mandrake
29 Nov 2006 23:46
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India tests Prithvi based ABM-2
Replies: 324
Views: 109546

Even if we develop an effective system, how long a bill are the babus willing to foot? What could be the possible objectives of this program.... does MOD want to cover only the metros and some other strategic locations, do they want to protect every state-capital or provide a complete missile shiel...
by mandrake
29 Nov 2006 16:46
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India tests Prithvi based ABM-2
Replies: 324
Views: 109546

Title: India to design ABM on US lines: Kalam Author: Publication: The Times of India Date: 1/5/2000 URL: http://www.timesofindia.com/050100/05home5.htm Contact: editor@timesofindia.com PUNE: India is to design a state-of-the-art anti-ballistic missile (ABM) system on the lines of the US Star-Wars s...
by mandrake
29 Nov 2006 04:32
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India tests Prithvi based ABM-2
Replies: 324
Views: 109546

Joey son, that logic "He is from..." is an appeal to false reason. He might be a janitor from xxxx who picked up stuff from around the water cooler. And no one who works on such stuff will admit to it. So there. Actually Sunil knows him, hes long in WAB "highsea" and he is worke...
by mandrake
29 Nov 2006 04:26
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India tests Prithvi based ABM-2
Replies: 324
Views: 109546

Relax joey. Just because fanne is joking about his mythical conference call does not make the EAIS/PADE a fake. Your bet is that the EAIS/PADE is real and not any Arrow. I told you I would pay half the 100 bucks. So same holds true even now. Fanne just summarized the many posts in this and previous...
by mandrake
29 Nov 2006 03:42
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India tests Prithvi based ABM-2
Replies: 324
Views: 109546

John why are you giving those links? are you also among those who thinks this is Arrow 2?[which has been proven wrong]
just asking, but those links are pretty informative.
by mandrake
29 Nov 2006 03:32
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India tests Prithvi based ABM-2
Replies: 324
Views: 109546

DRDO and its scientists have far too much to lose by either claiming a foreign product as homegrown or falsifying tests. The foreign arms lobbies have delivered their liafas and all the media knives are out for the DRDO. Problem the critics face is that this ABM interception is a big deal.. really ...
by mandrake
29 Nov 2006 03:17
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India tests Prithvi based ABM-2
Replies: 324
Views: 109546

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MISSILES/Prithvi.html Prithvi-II missile typically reaches a maximum altitude of approximately 80 km (Mach 4), thus spending most of the flight time in the upper reaches of the atmosphere. The large delta wings and body lift is used to generate additional lift during a...
by mandrake
29 Nov 2006 03:14
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India tests Prithvi based ABM-2
Replies: 324
Views: 109546

crapette, burnout speed for Prithvi is reported to be in the range 4 mach. How much more you want ? :) Kanson, where did you get this incorrect information? :twisted: Dude you didnt explained what i said, you know if your from other nation i dont have a problem but talk with facts in hand. I can pr...
by mandrake
29 Nov 2006 03:01
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India tests Prithvi based ABM-2
Replies: 324
Views: 109546

Re: Holy crap !!!.

This Prithvi exercise is only a technology demonstrator. To demonstrate the technology, all Companies or Agencies use controlled enviroments, implying that it is always a SUCCESS !!! So don't believe any crap anybody throws at you - THIS IS NOT AN ABM SYSTEM. In reality, Prithvi-X is not the weapon...
by mandrake
29 Nov 2006 01:21
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

I'm not getting dileep's sarcasm or whatever.

All i want this is damn home grown missile and if someone says "i know indians capability", it simply pisses the hell out of me.

hopefully after some years pic will come and hopefully fannes post was not a joke.

there is money on bet.
by mandrake
29 Nov 2006 00:21
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

Children: Baan=Tir=Arrow Kamaan=Dhanush=Bow I am finding it very difficult to read this thread from exile. Some of you otherwise smart jingos/oraclites think that without you quoting the the ENTIRE FRIGGING post you are replying to (for a one line reply off course) it just wont do. Off course its j...
by mandrake
28 Nov 2006 23:38
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

Humm had a brief chat with the 5th uncle of fourth nice first grandmother's...you get the drift (called many of these actually on a conference call) , so here is what is happening , please keep this transcript secret No1 (DRDO Scientist - Mr Cryptic) said - Didn't you read the news, it was Prithvi....
by mandrake
28 Nov 2006 22:58
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

VijayJ Radar was not used in this test. Like I said programmed intercept, you tell the missiles where to go and then make them meet in mid air. Are you really sure? TSR in Hindu did say a radar was used and the vehicle had 'active' sensors on board. For example IR is passive sensor. Kanson, If you ...
by mandrake
28 Nov 2006 22:55
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

I dealed a 25$ one :P
by mandrake
28 Nov 2006 22:52
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

Ramanna should i agree to the 100 bucks thing its too much though lol.
by mandrake
28 Nov 2006 22:48
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

ramana wrote:joey, Agree to the 100 bucks part. Will give you fifty if you loose.
100 bucks part where?
by mandrake
28 Nov 2006 22:44
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

The problem is even our people called it first as "baan" (hindi equivalent of Arrow). Eventhough it is could be for fun, it exacerbates indian mentality of relying on others products to sell their own. This is called brand loyalty :wink: :lol: for gods sake someone go there and atleast cl...
by mandrake
28 Nov 2006 22:36
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

I got a question...... has India ever bought technology or for that matter any gadget that it did not acknowledge? Every nut and bolt bought from outside requires $ something DRDO hasnt got.... DDM screams like hell about the $2billion used for LCA and thats about the same budget Israelis allocated...
by mandrake
28 Nov 2006 22:33
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

I know...I will hitting my head against the brick if i started to say something like this... I am doing it for someone, Atleast, who may think about it with the information available before jumping on the bandwagon of "It is Arrow, It is Arrow" For naysayers, only foreigners have brain, I...
by mandrake
28 Nov 2006 22:23
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

In some forum peoples are saying its Arrow 2 given by israel :( oh well. Hopefully it wont be Arrow 2. If someone saying it is Arrow-2, tell them.. Arrow-2 length is 7m whereas AXO length is more than 10m or ~12m. Max range of flight for arrow-2 is 90km and for AXO is more than 100km (I think it is...
by mandrake
28 Nov 2006 21:59
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

shiv wrote:I bet my ass that it wasn't a "Prithvi" that intercepted another one - but some other "Baan" that they have decided to call Prthvi for public consumption.
In some forum peoples are saying its Arrow 2 given by israel :( oh well.

Hopefully it wont be Arrow 2.
by mandrake
28 Nov 2006 19:43
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

Shankar why we just dont ask the DRDO community in orkut, if it was Arrow 2 or not.
just ask if it was arrow 2 or not.
by that noone is revaling anything, and we are making sure its not arrow 2.
by mandrake
28 Nov 2006 18:26
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

Shankar It WAS not Arrow 2 for sure. dude they have developed all the things bit by bit for this, the dimension can be of arrow 2 check the solid rocket motor dia. anyways have you checked one thing? when the missile was intercepted no ground peoples eye was shown. then it was from ground and smoke ...
by mandrake
28 Nov 2006 01:49
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

Kanson wrote:
joey wrote: But thats the most important thing, isnt it?
so we dont have that?
We are working on this..we will have it in future..
Thanks,
I was so damn excited the whole day forgot to take dinner lol took it later though.
just too much enthusiastic about india.
Jai Hind.
by mandrake
28 Nov 2006 01:38
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

Joey, Boost phase IR detection means, detecting the launch and calculating the trajectory by detecting Rocket flame (i,e boost phase) using satellites. In boost phase interception, the interceptor may have IR detector (or visible or Near Ultraviolet detector) which guides the interceptor to the roc...
by mandrake
28 Nov 2006 01:03
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

Ramanna sir,
I asked
Ok but what does "boost phase IR detection means then".
doesnt it means while the missile is going up...?
by mandrake
28 Nov 2006 00:58
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

joey, look at Prithvi vehicle design. It doesnt re-enter. It is called aero-ballistic missile. How can it get hot for an IR sensor to work? You can have your opinions but till it gets proofed in this mode its not useful. BTW radar sensor can also work on reentry vehicles. Ok but what does "boo...
by mandrake
28 Nov 2006 00:43
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

We can guess the type of seeker used. Prithvi is an atmospheric missile and does not re-enter. So IR based sensor is ruled out. Hence a radar based sensor was used. There were old reports of active radar sensors being developed for interception role by DRDO. The next type of ABM would have IR based...
by mandrake
27 Nov 2006 18:05
Forum: Mil-Tech Archive
Topic: India Tests Prithvi based ABM
Replies: 334
Views: 100626

Folks, it would be interesting to see the following tests in the future. 1. Akash against Prithivi or Agni. 2. Agni II (ABM version) against Agni I/II/III or IV. 3. Trisul/Barak II against Klub or Sagarika or Harpooniski or Dhanush. 4. Akash against Klub or Sagarika or Harpooniski or Dhanush. Is it...
by mandrake
14 Nov 2006 12:11
Forum: Military Issues & History Forum
Topic: Siachen News & Discussion
Replies: 3050
Views: 512253

By no means we should give away Sicahen. thats a vital point. heard chinese foreign ministers comment "arunachal pradesh belongs to china" The basic thing that we can do if we leave siachen is make a SAM site like guns of neveda type of, hgh surveillance kits then only leave, not other wis...
by mandrake
03 Nov 2006 14:46
Forum: Military Scenarios Archive
Topic: Possible Indian Military Scenarios - Part VI
Replies: 323
Views: 194627

pradeepe wrote:
VijayV wrote:I came across this Blog (Scenario) on web-Rediff, May be some of members will like it.

http://kashmirdiary.rediffiland.com/scr ... y_view.php

This is quite something!
Tell you guys what? this xanadu name is extremely familiar.
I've seen it either in WAB or Keypub for sure.