Ya that is true. Thats why still commerce is still in high demand. In the above three colleges if you want to get a seat in B.Com., one should need more than 90% in HSC examination. Most of these students will join either in morning or evening college and in the other part they are preparing for there CA examination and about MCC yes it is good old Madras Christioan College...SwamyG wrote: If there are enough high paying jobs in the science and arts stream, people will pick these readily.
Not so easy to do all this in just 4 yrs. It is better to provide for an integrated MS spread over 5 years with the last semester or two having very advanced level courses and project work. The three year degree does not do much justice, it is a leftover from the days when a BSc was required for admission to BE and MBBS courses.SwamyG wrote: There are certain areas in physics that interested me more than others. But I had to take all the prescribed courses and the system is badly set up.
I would prefer a 4-yr course over the 3-yr system. First six months, a review of physics, chemistry and biology from 9th-12th class material. Next 1.5 yrs introductory classes covering next level of physics. Till now, all courses would be mandatory. Then next and final two years ought to be more flexible with advanced level of material. Students with interest in certain areas would be able to take courses and continue to maintain interest.
Now that is a gross exaggeration"Half of Silicon Valley is owned by my batchmates from IIT, Kanpur.
The Kakodkar committee, formed to suggest a road map for the IITs’ autonomy and growth, will submit its report on Friday at a meeting of the IIT Council, the apex body that decides matters relating to the institutes.
The committee believes that increasing the undergraduate fees would make the IITs more self-sufficient and pave the way for more autonomy. The institutes will no longer depend on government grants for their recurring expenses, and would be able to create faculty and non-faculty posts on their own without having to seek government clearance.
If the government grants that the IITs receive to run their undergraduate courses are divided among the 10,000-plus students, every student will have to pay around Rs 2.5 lakh a year.
In February 2010, IIT Kanpur had proposed raising the tuition fee, suggesting a gradual hike to Rs 4 lakh a year over a period of 10 years. The government had not accepted the report.
The Kakodkar committee is expected to cite the IIM fee structure while pitching its fee-hike formula for the IITs.
Nalanda was violently destroyed in an Afghan attack, led by the ruthless conqueror, Bakhtiyar Khilji, in 1193, shortly after the beginning of Oxford University and shortly before the initiation of Cambridge. Nalanda university, an internationally renowned centre of higher education in India, which was established in the early fifth century, was ending its continuous existence of more than seven hundred years as Oxford and Cambridge were being founded, and even compared with the oldest European university, Bologna, Nalanda was more than six hundred years old, when Bologna was born. Had it not been destroyed and had it managed to survive to our time, Nalanda would be, by a long margin, the oldest university in the world. Another distinguished university, which did not stay in existence continuously either, viz. Al-Azhar University in Cairo, with which Nalanda is often compared, was established at a time, 970 AD, when Nalanda was already more than five hundred years old.
The university is being re-started right now, and since I happen to have the difficult task of chairing its interim governing body, I am finding out how hard it is to re-establish a university after an 800 year hiatus. But we are getting there. This meeting here gives me an opportunity to recollect the pursuit of science in old Nalanda which will inspire and guide our long-run efforts in new Nalanda. I say long run, because mainly for cost reasons — indeed entirely for cost reasons — we cannot start the science faculties immediately (physical and biological sciences cost much more money than the humanities and the social sciences do). The recollection — and more challengingly, assessment — of the scientific tradition in old Nalanda are important right now, partly because we have to start thinking about the long run (even as we try to raise money for initiation and expansion), but also because a scientific attitude and disciplined thought are important for the entire conception of new Nalanda, including the teaching of — and research in — humanities (such as history, languages and linguistics, and comparative religion), as well as the social sciences and the world of practice (such as international relations, management and development, and information technology).
Well, Nalanda was an old centre of learning that attracted students from many countries in the world, particularly China and Tibet, Korea and Japan, and the rest of Asia, but a few also from as far in the west as Turkey.......Incidentally, Nalanda is the only non-Chinese institution in which any Chinese scholar was educated in the history of ancient China.
It is also important to recognise that while Nalanda was very special, it was still a part of a larger tradition of organised higher education that developed in that period in India — in Bihar in particular. In addition to Nalanda, there were in the vicinity other such institutions, such as Vikramshila and Odantapuri. Indeed, Xuangzang wrote about them too, even though he himself studied in Nalanda. There was a larger social culture to which Nalanda belonged, and this is important to recollect in thinking about the tradition of Nalanda.
A third question concerns the subjects that were actually taught in Nalanda. Here we do have a problem, since the documents in Nalanda were indiscriminatingly burnt by Bakhtiyar and his conquering army. We have to rely therefore of the accounts of students of Nalanda who wrote about what they had seen, and given the reticence of Indians to write about history (a subject of interest in itself), we have to rely mostly on the accounts of outsiders who did not share that reticence, such as Xuangzang and Yi Jing. We do know that among the subjects taught, and on which there was on-going research, were medicine, public health, architecture, sculpture, and astronomy, in addition to religion, history, law and linguistics.
There may have been others, in India or China or elsewhere, from Nalanda who were involved in mathematics (a subject that was flourishing in India in this period) and whose documents have been lost.
I end with two final remarks. The first one concerns an aspect of the intellectual life of Nalanda that emerges powerfully from the accounts we do actually have about Nalanda from Chinese as well as Indian scholars. The faculty and the students in Nalanda loved to argue, and very often held argumentative encounters. I have discussed elsewhere how deep this argumentativeness is in Indian intellectual history, but I want to add here that it is a part of the scientific tradition as well, to seek arguments and defences, refusing to accept positions and claims on grounds of faith.
The mysterious decline in enrolment of more than 10 lakh children in class I to V in Uttar Pradesh alone over a year has pulled down India's primary admission by over nine lakh in 2009-10 as compared to 2008-09.
However, there has been an increase in enrolment of Muslim children both at primary (class I-V) level at 13.48% in 2009-10 from 11.03% in 2008-09, and upper primary (class VI-VIII) level 11.89% in 2009-10 from 9.13% in 2008-09.
Karnataka has shown a big improvement from 14.67% in 2008-09 to 35.52% in 2009-10. Muslim girls form nearly 50% of the community's enrolment at both primary/upper primary level. Enrolment of children belonging to Scheduled Caste, Scheduled Tribe, Other Backward Class has seen a marginal decline.
Mid-day meal is being provided in 87.45% schools. Karnataka fared poorly on this count, where the coverage extended to only 45.87% schools.
While Uttar Pradesh made the maximum contribution, marginal decline was noticed in Uttarakhand, Bihar, Chhattisgarh, Orissa and a few other states. While maintaining that decline in UP is a cause for concern, experts in NUEPA attribute the marginal decline to stabilization in enrolment at primary level, but point to parallel increase in upper primary (VI-VIII) admissions. "Enrolment at primary level has almost become constant nationally at 1.34/1.33 crore, but at upper primary it will go on increasing," said Arun Mehta of NUEPA.
Bihar and Lakshwadeep have almost 100% enrolment in government schools.
Long way to go, but definitely signs of improvement.Between 2002-03 and 2009-10, the government added 1.32 lakh primary and 58,720 upper primary schools. More than 40% primary schools have pupil-teacher ratio of more than 30:1 and 33.17% upper primary schools have pupil-teacher ratio of more than 35:1. Survey also showed that 14 days were lost on account of teachers being asked to perform non-teaching jobs.
Seriously which Madrassa is this which offers Phrench, Spanish for 2nd language from grade I. Is it that Dilli "Public" School ?Singha wrote:I was at grade-I pre admission counselling at my son's school yesterday. various things like ICSE courses were being talked of. someone asked what 2nd language do you teach. they said "hindi, kannada and french with spanish and mandarin planned for sometime in future".
one chi chi parent asked "why not german also"?
.Yeah. That was the reasons we focused exclusively on the schools in South Bangalore.Singha wrote:kumaran's should work nicely for you given your upcoming apartment.
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and from what I get to hear from a current batch in a KV it continues to be a high scoring subject. 
Four higher primary schools at Bichchali, Talamari and Tungabhadra villages of Raichur taluk have overcome their resource handicap, putting to use networking technology. It’s a common sight these days in these schools of students in classes VI, VII and VIII wishing their teachers and conversing among themselves in English.
Networking major Cisco, which has built 1,000 homes out of the 3,750 it had promised for the flood-affected in the taluk, has now come forward to build the lives of the underprivileged children, under Project Samudaya as part of its Cisco Education Enabled Development (CEED) programme, launched on August 27, 2010.
The programme aims at providing quality healthcare facilities for the children, besides state-of-the-art education facilities. Cisco volunteers have installed computers, besides a projector, a web camera, audio speaker and microphone in each of the 11 schools that it has adopted in five villages.
The company has taken on board teachers of Evronn educational institution in Chennai, who teach the rudimentaries of English, through Kannada, to the children from Chennai.
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Aravind Seetharaman of Cisco told Deccan Herald that the firm had plans to extend this project to other parts of the State.
Discussions were on with the government on plans to train teachers.
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If Sanskrit is not high scoring subject people will stop taking even those rudimentary lessons in Sanskrit. I have also heard that the people who teach Sanskrit give generous marks to encourage more people take Sanskrit classes.negi wrote:RB that was the case in our times, CBSE's Sanskrit was KG level
Was surprised to see similarities between Latin and Sanskrit when we were taught Latin by a visiting Oxbridge fella during one of our Sanskrit classes.Good job. Especially some sort of certification to allow credit.Now, study engineering sitting at home
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New Delhi, February 9
You no longer need to be a student of a private or government technical institute to access courses and lectures delivered at the said institutes, including the premier Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs).
In a major leap forward in the use of ICT (information, communication and technology) in education, the IITs have, in collaboration with the Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore, have developed 135 video and 125 web-based courses (in technology, engineering and sciences) that comprehensively cover the curricula being taught at all the AICTE-approved institutions. Each such course comprises 40 hours of lectures delivered by the IIT and IISc faculty.
Close to 1,000 courses will be added to the pool by 2010. Already available for free downloads at http://www.nptel.ac.in are the courses in the following branches - civil, computer science, electrical, electronics, mechanical, ocean, biotechnology, mining, and metallurgy. Anyone, from among students, faculty or industry, can access these contents, the largest such repository of virtual knowledge in the world. So far, certain such courses were available for downloads from You Tube and Google, but the IITs now have their own server located at the IIT, Madras, from where free downloads are possible. Copies of courses are also available in CDs, DVDs etc at a cost of Rs 200 per course (40 hours of lectures).
The effort is part of the National Programme on Technology-Enhanced Learning initiative launched across India under the National Mission on Education through ICT today. Gradually, the IITs and the IISs will work with the HRD Ministry to develop 150 virtual laboratories across India to allow students accessing courses to also have practical training and do experiments. “We are moving towards a virtual university system where we will try to ensure that every student accessing our contents gets some sort of certification after taking a certain examination,” IIT Roorkee’s Professor Bikas Mohanty said. The website already has 4.9 million hits.
Losers wasting thier life joing a course where supply is aldready too High.dinakar wrote:Ya that is true. Thats why still commerce is still in high demand. In the above three colleges if you want to get a seat in B.Com., one should need more than 90% in HSC examination. Most of these students will join either in morning or evening college and in the other part they are preparing for there CA examination and about MCC yes it is good old Madras Christioan College...SwamyG wrote: If there are enough high paying jobs in the science and arts stream, people will pick these readily.
Aditya_V wrote:Losers wasting thier life joing a course where supply is aldready too High.
. Is this true? At least during my graduation days Chartered Accountancy was a much desired profession. And the wide spread belief was that the exams were too tough, and only the strong and mighty can get through that (and if he can pass in the very first chance, he should be God!). Took an extra year to complete CA, passed when I was 24, even today the CA's get treated in the market, it is not career option I would advise to anyone. If can do CA after School and use it for getting into IIM, XLRI etc. and be one of those Highly paid MBA execs , only then this course would be very useful to you.Sachin wrote:quote="Aditya_V"]Losers wasting thier life joing a course where supply is aldready too High./quote]
At least in my college, the trend was:-
1. Folks interested in science, or planning to write Engineering/Medical entrances go for the B.Sc stuff.
2. Folks who are generally good in studies, but prefer a non-technical line, goes for the commerce batch. And within the first year, they slowly started getting a all-mighty attitude, since all of them planned to become CAs.
3. Then there are the B.A types. Not too brilliant, many of them plan to write the PSC exams to get into government jobs. Most of the upcoming politicians (student unions etc.) take up such courses. And some of them go for MA, or LLB. But one thing I noticed was that since these people dont have high hopes of becoming a CA or a Doctor or Engineer, they have their course pretty much set.
Among the #2 group mentioned, the hopes slowly start shattering when they repeateadly start flunking in these exams. I know folks who slogged along for 3-5 years. The all-mighty attitude too goes for a rapid change, and then they have no recourse but to follow the foot steps of #3.
Without getting into personal specifics, CAs are pretty well regarded in the industry...The "accounting industry" itself is now huge - the big 4 firms, plus a few more international firms employ literally thousands of CAs..Enough senior bankers I know are also CAs...I would recommend it for anyone with a knack for accountancy...Aditya_V wrote:Took an extra year to complete CA, passed when I was 24, even today the CA's get treated in the market, it is not career option I would advise to anyone. If can do CA after School and use it for getting into IIM, XLRI etc. and be one of those Highly paid MBA execs , only then this course would be very useful to you.
This is generally the case for any profession within India. Too many people chasing the few organised sector jobs. The dynamics mentioned in the interview below are true for every other field.Aditya_V wrote:Took an extra year to complete CA, passed when I was 24, even today the CA's get treated in the market, it is not career option I would advise to anyone. If can do CA after School and use it for getting into IIM, XLRI etc. and be one of those Highly paid MBA execs , only then this course would be very useful to you.
NEW DELHI—The Indian government plans to spend 21% more this year on science and technology, Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee announced today. But some scientists think the government, which finances about 80% of the country's investment in research and development, should take advantage of a booming economy to enact even larger increases.
The allocation for the Indian Ministry of Science and Technology goes up by 17% over last year's total of $1.42 billion. The newly created National Science and Engineering Board will receive $75 million to support basic research following the model of the U.S. National Science Foundation, while the Indian Council of Agricultural Research will launch a $38 million project to continue developing climate resilient crops.
In contrast, India's human space program has been cut by one-third, to $25 million. And funding for Chandrayaan-2, a collaboration with Russia for a moon lander and rover in 2013, has shrunk by $5 million. Officials at the Indian Space Research Organization, which receives a 14% increase over its current budget of $1.4 billion, declined comment on the reductions.
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"I am not very happy with these small increases' says C. N. R. Rao, a chemist at Jawaharlal Nehru Centre for Advanced Scientific Research in Bangalore and science adviser to the prime minister. The new science board needs at least $250 million to get up and running, says Rao, who promises to lobby for a large increase in the next budget. "It seems science is generally not respected in this country," he says. "India just can't grow without doing good science."