From: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiap ... ary.fight/After bin Laden was killed by the Navy SEALs at the compound, his body was flown back to Afghanistan, and then to the Carl Vinson where he was buried at sea. Admiral Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, placed a phone call to his counterpart General Ashfaq Kiyani asking for U.S. aircraft to re-enter Pakistani airspace -- several hours after the raid -- so the body could be flown out to the Vinson.
Maybe the TSP officials hacked out the column and timed its publication.......
We saw US President Barack Obama announcing the mission to find and kill bin Laden a little before the midnight of Sunday and Monday, Washington time.
Lo and behold! Zardari’s column on the subject was up on the ‘Washington Post’ website barely 24 hours later. In the time space between an event and a column on it, Zardari perhaps has clocked one of the fastest sprints.
One would have thought Zardari would have a lot to chew on last Monday than write a column. After all Barack Obama had just called to inform him that US Navy Seals had violated Pakistan’s territorial sovereignty to attack and kill Osama bin Laden deep inside Pakistan’s territory.
As the ‘commander in chief’ of Pakistan’s armed forces, Zardari should have been posing tough questions to the ISI and the Pak Army on what bin Laden was doing in Abbottabad for so many years and how Washington could get away with raiding and killing him. Instead Zardari the hack was hammering out a column trying to confuse the issues....
For comparison purposes, here is an actual entry in Zardari's handwriting in a guestbook. The farticle in WaPo was clearly a plant.Gagan wrote:Asif Ali Zardari is barely literate.
Ask him to write a sentence in english and he won't be able to do it with proper grammar and spelling.
But right at the outset, let us disabuse ourselves of the silly notion of India being able to carry out a similar operation to nab Dawood Ibrahim or others wanted for their complicity in the 26/11 Mumbai terror attack. The Indian State does not have the will and therefore has not created the wherewithal to carry out such a strike. Indian civil society is frivolous on matters concerning national security and wedded to phoney non-violence of the weak.
We have not taken basic steps like confiscating Dawood's property and cracking down on his illegal business -- this would make him virtually redundant. It is futile to talk of nabbing him in Karachi. About the 26/11 perpetrators, we are shy to hang the murderer in our custody and have already diluted our stand vis-a-vis talks with Pakistan. If Indian soldiers were to carry out an operation similar to the Americans, they may have to stand trial for having killed an 'unarmed terrorist'.
Our NGOs hounded AS Sandhu, an honest police officer in Punjab who fought the terrorists, and forced him to commit suicide!
It has also emerged that the Central Intelligence Agency had people on the ground who were keeping a close watch on the compound. This has so far not been denied by anyone. If that was the case, then switching off electricity during the operation is child's play.
There is also the mystery about the crash of a Pakistani helicopter on May 2, according to a report carried by the prestigious The News daily of Pakistan.
This helicopter may well have been a last minute effort by the Pakistanis to take away Osama; through ground reports they may well have come to know about the American operation. One can blind radars but good old human observers may well have provided a warning to the Pakistanis. While the latter claim that the helicopter crashed due to a technical fault, it is more likely that the chopper was shot down by the Americans.
Another clinching evidence that this was a purely American operation with Pakistan completely in the dark is the classic photograph that the US authorities have released of President Barack Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other decision-makers watching the operation 'live' in the White House situation room.
If this was a joint operation and Pakistan was in the loop, then the kind of anxiety and suspense that one sees in that photograph would be totally unnecessary. If this was a fake drama (as the Pakistani master conspiracy theorists are so fond of calling it) then President Obama deserves an Oscar for acting!
It is also being questioned as to how the CIA, which has a heavy presence in Pakistan, missed out on noticing Osama. The answer to that lies in the fact that he was sheltered in a virtual military town, and the Americans were either naive enough to trust Pakistanis or under the ground rules, the Pakistani army areas were a 'no go' zone for the CIA.
It seems certain that Americans must have prepared a plan B and plan C in case anything went wrong. This author's guess is that the first contingency plan must have been that should for some reason the helicopters fail to reach Abbottabad, then as an alternative the American fighters would launch an attack from the air, using stealth fighters to destroy the compound and kill Osama. The option of using drones or a cruise missile would have been ruled out as too risky! A near-miss may well have hit the Pakistani Military Academy, barely 800 metres away.
The most difficult part of any commando raid is exfiltration. There is every chance that the enemy may well have detected the raiding party and a reaction is expected. There was a possibility that alerted by the noise of helicopters, the nearby Pakistani military units (though not from the military academy as cadets under training are not capable of this) or even a scratch team from the training staff at the academy could arrive at the scene of action. Military logic says the Americans must have prepared themselves to deal with this reaction by fighting against such Pakistani unit.
Even more plausibly, the nearby airfields may well have launched a Pakistani fighter aircraft to intercept the retreating helicopters. To guard against this possibility, the American fighter aircrafts must have been hovering over the area of operations.
It is not known when or if at all America warned India about the impending operation. This is crucial since in the fog of war, if the American aircraft had engaged the Pakistani air force, the Pakistanis may well have come to the wrong conclusion that it was an attack from India and launched retaliatory raids against us.
Were we prepared for such an eventuality? What if that retaliation was with nuclear weapons? After all, Abbottabad is very close to the Pakistani nuclear complex.
The Abbottabad raid has raised many disturbing questions and the Indian armed forces must find answers to them.
Historically, this is the closest that the Americans have come to getting involved in a combat in the Indian subcontinent. The last such occasion was during the 1971 India-Pakistan when during the Indian army's attack on Shakkargarh town, an American adviser was on the verge of being captured by the attacking Indian army. From that close a relationship to nearly clashing with the Pakistan army is indeed a long journey for the US.
The hounding of Guj cops in the Sohrabuddyin and Ishraat cases is also looking ominous. Jabki INC deputed encounter specialists in MH aren't under any lens at all. /Sorry for the OT.Our NGOs hounded AS Sandhu, an honest police officer in Punjab who fought the terrorists, and forced him to commit suicide!
+1sum wrote:^^ We have ~10-12 IPS officers of all levels in jail for bumping off 2 known anti-nationals ( who were with Pakis when bumped off). With such a situation, can hardly expect anyone in Desh to volunteer for Abbottabad type search and destroy raids..
Premal ji,Premal wrote:ah finally realization !
Mother of all embarrassments
At times, al-Qaida has explicitly asked its affiliates for financial support. In 2005, bin Laden's deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, sent a letter to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, then the head of al-Qaida in Iraq. In the letter, which was intercepted by the U.S. government and subsequently declassified, Zawahiri asked Zarqawi for 100,000 (without specifying a currency), noting that "many lines [of support] had been cut off."
More recently, al-Qaida has received assistance from Lashkar e-Taiba (LeT), its powerful and dangerous affiliate in South Asia. In July 2009, the U.S. Treasury Department designated Arif Qasmani, whom it described as the "chief coordinator" for the group's dealings with other terrorist organizations. According to Treasury, Qasmani has provided a wide variety of financial and other support to al-Qaida since 2001, including facilitating al-Qaida members' travel and providing supplies and weapons. In exchange, al-Qaida provided Qasmani with operatives that helped LeT carry out the 2006 train bombing in Mumbai, India, and the 2007 attack on the Samjhauta Express in Panipat, India.
The Abbottabad files may help analysts better understand the current nature of the financial relationship, if any, between al-Qaida core and its regional franchises.
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/pm-ru ... tan-105313Asked if India would adopt the type of operation that the US carried out to eliminate the Al Qaeda chief, in order to get Pak-based terrorists wanted by it, Singh began by saying "these are sensitive issues and we don't discuss strategies on terror in press conferences".
Exactly what many of us have been saying. They are either:Premal wrote:ah finally realization !
Mother of all embarrassments
Also, till recently, the LeT/JuD was receiving funds directly allocated from the budget of the Punjab state government. In Pakistan, following such trails of money directly leads to state-actors.More recently, al-Qaida has received assistance from Lashkar e-Taiba (LeT), its powerful and dangerous affiliate in South Asia.
The Department of Defense is looking into ways to "pump up the security" for the team of Navy SEALs who helped kill Osama bin Laden after the commandos expressed concern for their safety and the safety of their families, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Thursday.
Gates made the comment in response to a question at a town hall meeting at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. A Marine asked what measures were being taken to protect "the identities and the lives" of the SEALs involved in the takedown of bin Laden in Pakistan a week ago, as well as other troops deployed in the region, from the threat of retaliation.
"We are very concerned about the security of our families – of your families and our troops, and also these elite units that are engaged in things like that. And without getting into any details ... I would tell you that when I met with the team last Thursday, they expressed a concern about that, and particularly with respect to their families," Gates told the audience.
The Marine's question underscored sentiment among military and intelligence communities that identification of the team signified an unprecedented breach of confidentiality.
Gates acknowledged the threat of retaliation against Team 6 and troops deployed in the region.
very soon some RAA agint might start this debate....kmkraoind wrote:When are Papis are going to rename Abbottabad as Osamabad.
Omar bin Laden, right, and his British-born wife Jane Felix-Brown, now known as Zaina Alsabah
Yesterday, the al Qaeda leader's sons denounced what they called their father's "arbitrary killing." Meanwhile, Pakistani officials believe one of bin Laden's sons--perhaps one known as "the Crown Prince of Terror"--may be missing after escaping from the U.S. raid.
In a statement, bin Laden's sons questioned why their father "was not arrested and tried in a court of law so that the truth is revealed to the people of the world." It is not known how many of bin Laden's numerous sons (there are believed to be as many as 17) endorsed the statement.
"We maintain that arbitrary killing is not a solution to political problems," the statement continued, adding that "justice must be seen to be done."
President Obama has rejected suggestions that the killing was improper, telling "60 Minutes" that anyone who questioned whether bin Laden deserved his fate "needs to have their head examined."
Omar bin Laden, a metals trader who has been living in Cairo, appears at pains to disassociate himself from his father's belief in political violence. "We want to remind the world that Omar bin Laden, the fourth-born son of our father, always disagreed with our father regarding any violence and always sent messages to our father, that he must change his ways and that no civilians should be attacked under any circumstances," the statement said.
It continued: "Despite the difficulty of publicly disagreeing with our father, he never hesitated to condemn any violent attacks made by anyone, and expressed sorrow for the victims of any and all attacks."
one of bin Laden's wives, who was captured in the U.S. raid, has told Pakistani investigators that one of the terror leader's sons escaped and is missing. Pakistani officials are said to have done a head count, and to believe it's true, though U.S. officials say they're confident no one escaped during or after the raid.
"Out of 21, one person is not accounted for," a Pakistani intelligence official told ABC. "I believe that's the son."
Pakistani investigators are probing whether the son could be 22-year-old Hamza bin Laden, known as "The Crown Prince of Terror." Hamza was credited with writing a poem praising the 2005 London bombings, and was accused by Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto of attempting to assassinate her.
In fact, no skull caps, no hiding behind full burkhas or nakab, no Osama beard (not even a goatee), no kneeling down and showing musharrafs to the East in public and no wearing shalwars even in your backyard on a lazy Sunday afternoon. All this within 100 miles of a US military facility.jrjrao wrote:To all the US based Paklurks visiting this thread here, especially those of the Shehzad Tanweer and Faisal Shahzad variety, please take care to note that you might want to seriously stay away from any US military facility in the coming weeks.
Because first this:
SEAL-spotting becomes local sport in Virginia Beach after bin Laden raid
and then this, the latest:
Gates: SEALs who killed bin Laden concerned for their safetyThe Department of Defense is looking into ways to "pump up the security" for the team of Navy SEALs who helped kill Osama bin Laden after the commandos expressed concern for their safety and the safety of their families, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Thursday.
Gates made the comment in response to a question at a town hall meeting at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. A Marine asked what measures were being taken to protect "the identities and the lives" of the SEALs involved in the takedown of bin Laden in Pakistan a week ago, as well as other troops deployed in the region, from the threat of retaliation.
"We are very concerned about the security of our families – of your families and our troops, and also these elite units that are engaged in things like that. And without getting into any details ... I would tell you that when I met with the team last Thursday, they expressed a concern about that, and particularly with respect to their families," Gates told the audience.
The Marine's question underscored sentiment among military and intelligence communities that identification of the team signified an unprecedented breach of confidentiality.
Gates acknowledged the threat of retaliation against Team 6 and troops deployed in the region.
The same applies to all the 'Indian Muslims wanna be Pakis' in the US.Let me do some math...one Taliban whack job kills himself & eighty Paki military scumbags. Hmmmmm...I double dog dare the Taliban to do it again...and again...and again...
Eventually they'll run out of whack job suicide bombers or run out of Pakis to blew up.
Either way, the world wins.
