Two-G (2G) Spectrum Scam Tapes and follow-up

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 02 Jun 2011 22:50

Sushupti wrote:SRK says he's not with Baba Ramdev

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/srk-s ... dev-109799

No surprise given Bollywood is probably at the forefront of money laundering, tax evasion and stashing funds offshore.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Jun 2011 23:22

It can be understood that not supporting Ramdev or Hazare is also an agenda. Wonder if he supports Rahul Bhatt in his encounters with Agent Deadly.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 03 Jun 2011 01:36

PP guy has a Jamwal like 2G-scenario on BR.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Jun 2011 02:52

Guess Anna Hazare realised he will get marginalized. So better join Ramdev. Recall he hijacked Ramdev's agitation and led it astray.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 703051.cms

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 03 Jun 2011 05:28

Videos of Arnab's show as promised.

http://www.timesnow.tv/videoshow/4374888.cms
http://www.timesnow.tv/videoshow/4374889.cms

dnivas · Post by **dnivas** » 03 Jun 2011 06:16

Sushupti wrote:Videos of Arnab's show as promised.

http://www.timesnow.tv/videoshow/4374888.cms
http://www.timesnow.tv/videoshow/4374889.cms

Thanks.. man some of these ppl are just so damm naive.

Anupam Kher gave them a good one.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 03 Jun 2011 07:54

ramana wrote:Guess Anna Hazare realised he will get marginalized. So better join Ramdev. Recall he hijacked Ramdev's agitation and led it astray.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 703051.cms

But what exactly is sri Ramdev's incentive to allow Hazare another hijack attempt? The lifafa media, chatteratti, pseudos and cryptos are all anyway against Sri Ramdev. Letting Anna in is a mistake, IMHO.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 03 Jun 2011 08:22

But he cannot be petty, right. That is the weakness of Bharat. Only a few like Sri Krishna and Chanakya could avoid such people without them realizing it. A test for Sri BR perhaps...

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Jun 2011 09:33

He has to make Anna Hazare follow his agenda and not hijack again.

if he sends him away he will look petty. The image will get weakened. The AH backers want that.

Chankaya would have taken care of this one.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 03 Jun 2011 10:09

AH knows better that people started knowing him at the place other than in Maharashtra because RD made him popular by including him in his campaign.

IMHO, what RD could not apprehend was congress's game of proping up AH to dilute his aggressive stance. Pro AH media brought out congi's gameplan in open. Work of RD is very widespread and well accepted all over india and abroad while AH was even not known in North India till he climbed RD's shoulder. Appeal of AH is still limited while RD has done tremendous groundwork. Look at the way the fasting is organized, his ayurvedi hospitals functions, dispensaries and stores are run. Very methodical and meticulously planned awakening of deshi medical system, yoga and value system. compare this to sponsored agitation of AH.

RD till date has maintained a straight forward policy and followed Swami Dayanand Saraswati's teaching - you dont have to remove negatives, just increase the span of positives, be proactive and negatives will be insignificant.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Jun 2011 10:14

Eventually negatives have to be removed. reason is they become lurking dangers and grow out of sight to devour the positives. Live and let die should be guiding principle.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 03 Jun 2011 10:19

krishnan wrote:Dunno what all scam this guy is doing in textile now

Recently visited Coimbatore on business, heard stories how our hero has collected tons of money from people in the textile town of Tirupur. Joker has also lapped up a very large acreage in Hosur.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 03 Jun 2011 11:51

ramana wrote:Eventually negatives have to be removed. reason is they become lurking dangers and grow out of sight to devour the positives. Live and let die should be guiding principle.

Yes.

RD's stance is to take everyone in the flow to create more and more positives and he believes that by doing yoga and living right one will automatically become postive. side by side, he is very sarcastic about 'management' of enemies and diseases. He says diseases and enemies of this nation do not have right to live. thats why he has propsed to punish the wrongdoers especially corrupt people and rapists with death sentnce. Taunts govt : Bharat ke netrutva mein se shaurya aur parakram adrashya ho gaya hai. It is also well known that once he sort of threatened china when he visited tawang and other place of AP - Mansarovar bhi hamara hai, woh bhi hum le ke rahenge. He perhaps knows the art of taking war to enemies' camp.

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Added later:
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/corrupt-shou ... 470-3.html

Manishw · Post by **Manishw** » 03 Jun 2011 13:31

The Govt is now threatening RD that the venue where his satyagraha is going to take place does not have that license and as such is illegal as such will be dealt in a suitable manner unless an agreement is reached.

update: permission granted by the municipal corporation of delhi (MCD)

News Courtesy of Aaj tak

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 03 Jun 2011 13:38

RamaY wrote:PP guy has a Jamwal like 2G-scenario on BR.

Errr what?

More light please.

jaibhim · Post by **jaibhim** » 03 Jun 2011 16:26

Thanks for posting about the arnab show! No wonder social science monopolised by activists in India is bereft of analytical power and is enslaved to hallucinations of such people who are activists and peaceniks, and will remain stunted, delhi centric and of little use of active results in the policy domain, shut them up and feed 10 poor slum brethren instead! The chattering elites, Barhkha that's not fair as a louis wooton attired activist with a big bindi would squeal JNU peace activists are all up in arms now, we are liberated na, come Nita,come let us share our love as saris unfold to recreate new age tantra, imagining a sequence from the movie Fire ! It is true that many of these god man including a man who has acres of land in kanakapura road and the man who had serious accusations of child molestation against him and the equally suspicious; such as the vhp and other sanghi outfits are to be subject to investigation about the source of their funds. But as Anupam Kher said the public the read idiotic stupid public which the social scientists, economists, twice born india international centre crusaders of justice in saauth[sauthekai mele chutny] asia[guradian starbuck drinking 1800£ mac users and activists of delhi civil society would fail to realise, are desperate[George Ritzer's McDonaldisation thesis is a must for any learner of strategy and how systems are supported by apparent protest] and would follow anyone who could at least turn the first sod against corruption. Civil society activists, delhi based subaltern bhadralok indian social scientist struggling with local languages, must go to ilakala and bijapura taulka under the baking sun and be fed menasinkai soppu and jolada rotti once a day, drink from water along with goats from the borewell, till the land with a dalit sharecropper and fast bereft of comfortable cocktails, luxury soft egyptian cotton sheets made from the toil of poor workmen[on which they lie down, do their experiments towards liberation, write polemics on thier macs,praise comrade stalin] apart from having to descend like stars to conflict zones of sauth asia for a guardian piece! As Anupam Kher said action speaks louder than words.
Many ordinary people, not activists or ideologues are just sick of corruption, this is sentiment based on ordinary conversation amongst ordinary people from Tiptur to Maradanahalli!
Fantastic revelations just updating member friends even if some of them might know - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhU7MZgf2RA

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 03 Jun 2011 17:09

Sanku wrote:
RamaY wrote:PP guy has a Jamwal like 2G-scenario on BR.
Errr what? More light please.

http://politicsparty.com/MONEY_PANIC.php

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 03 Jun 2011 19:28

This is one chance to move completely against corruption.

The govt is going to take this fight head on and has activated all its agents - Diggi is saying Ramdev is part of RSS conspirajey, celebs joining in saying Baba Ramdev doesn't have their support (as if we could give a hoot about their support anyway).

Its the time for people to rise against corruption. This is a part of our growth phase and needs to be done. If there is enough show of force, I think Madam will have to start making concessions which will result in some bigwigs going into jail on corruption charges - they'll protect them and force a resignation first to see if that is enough to satisfy demands, then Madam will have to get the govt to press charges.

Ultimately people would like to see Anti corruption cells to be strengthened, CVC to have greater teeth and power. Stronger jail terms etc. India is just moving to the next phase.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Jun 2011 19:38

X-Post from Nukkad....

Singha wrote:todays mystery - why is GOI so scared of a hunger strike by a saffron clad Sadhu that it has to send 3 ministers to negotiate with him to curtail the fast?

INC is different kind of politicial party. When ever there is opposition, it will adopt/join the opposition movement in order to stay in power by coopting it. Subsequently the differeence between opposition and themselves will disappear and kill the opposition movement.

This is the Modus Operandi since Independence.

It took me some time to understand this but they have understood Quigley's laws of evolution of civilizations with a twist.

If the change doesn't have numbers kill it outright. Otherwise embrace the change and kill it.

Quigley says surviving civilizations embrace change and confrom to the change. INC breaks that paradigm.

Dont know how long all the people can get fooled all the time.

Manishw · Post by **Manishw** » 03 Jun 2011 19:49

Indians, contrary to popular perception, never won their freedom, it was a transfer of power hence our politicos are called the brown sahibs who have replaced the white sahibs in name only.The real string pullers behind the stage are the same.Anybody like IG etc. who tried to break free met a horrific end.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Jun 2011 19:54

Another image to understand INC is they are the puppets and the puppeteers all rolled into one.

Let me clarify. They are the puppets of the business interests: old and new and same time they control those interests with the vast govt machinery at their disposal.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 03 Jun 2011 19:58

^^ Similar to Amriki noo? Oil lobby etc?

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 03 Jun 2011 19:59

In the scheme of things that are happening in terms of fraud in India, I don't think what Dayanidhi Maran did could be even considered as corruption. It is just a case of conflict of interest and he did not defraud the nation. However, Times Now is hell bent of destroying Maran. DMK to be completely destroyed is the agenda being pursued. I don't know what could be the real gameplan.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Jun 2011 20:16

shyamd wrote:^^ Similar to Amriki noo? Oil lobby etc?

There are checks and balances in US and the two party system ensures some balance.

INC is the sole monopoly party in India just as East India Company (EIC) was before the British Crown took over after 1857.

This prespective allows understand the inherent drive in INC to topple opposition parties in states by any means since 1956 when Kerala govt was toppled.

See the unprecedented five times trust govt that BSY govt had to prove in Karnataka.

Tamang · Post by **Tamang** » 03 Jun 2011 20:19

Muppalla wrote:In the scheme of things that are happening in terms of fraud in India, I don't think what Dayanidhi Maran did could be even considered as corruption. It is just a case of conflict of interest and he did not defraud the nation. However, Times Now is hell bent of destroying Maran. DMK to be completely destroyed is the agenda being pursued. I don't know what could be the real gameplan.

It was much worse than corruption. It was a blatant loot of national resources.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 03 Jun 2011 20:22

Tamang wrote:
Muppalla wrote:In the scheme of things that are happening in terms of fraud in India, I don't think what Dayanidhi Maran did could be even considered as corruption. It is just a case of conflict of interest and he did not defraud the nation. However, Times Now is hell bent of destroying Maran. DMK to be completely destroyed is the agenda being pursued. I don't know what could be the real gameplan.
It was much worse than corruption. It was a blatant loot of national resources.

I did not get it then. What exactly did Maran did? As I understand, his brother used name of Maran in getting good share values to a Telecom company. Using that money they expanded into Telecom. Based on their reach they were able to get licences. Shareholeders and they all made money and consumers got cheaper telephones.

Anything else?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Jun 2011 20:26

Muppalla garu, Dayanidhi Maran was the pathfinder for DMK's Central Govt loot campaign. He showed how to loot using Central office and filled his family coffers adn defy MK's goonda sons. This caused the MK family to decide to get their share from Center.
He needs to pay the price for his misdeeds. When he first came on national sceen in NDA ministry he was the face of new modern India. Turned out it was the same corrupt body of a looter/robber baron.

What he did was parley official permits/licenses for outright transfer of funds (under guise of investment) to his family's company.

Vashishtha · Post by **Vashishtha** » 03 Jun 2011 20:40

guys, any prediction on where ramdev's fast will go? Will it follow anna hazare's way? i.e, call of the fast on some 'assurance' and then do chai-biskoot.....

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Jun 2011 20:51

Vashishtha, At a minimum it will draw out lurkers like SRk and Slaman Khan who try to discredit or impugn Baba Ramdev.

Meanwhile our R Vaidya has written

Baba Here is a Dummy's guide to Black Money & Tax havens

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 03 Jun 2011 21:13

Always wondered where they got the money for deal-nodeal , gold hunt kind of games. Deal-nodeal could have easily costed them around close to 50 crore if they had actually given away the money

Manishw · Post by **Manishw** » 03 Jun 2011 22:06

Srk, Sk and Digvijay singh are totally exposed.They have nothing better than to say that only people who are in politics have a right to protest against corruption nobody else.People are starting to find out the real villains of our motherland.Hopefully many more skeletons will tumble.Keeping my fingers crossed.

Tamang · Post by **Tamang** » 03 Jun 2011 23:23

Muppalla wrote:I did not get it then. What exactly did Maran did? As I understand, his brother used name of Maran in getting good share values to a Telecom company. Using that money they expanded into Telecom. Based on their reach they were able to get licences. Shareholeders and they all made money and consumers got cheaper telephones.

Anything else?

kmkraoind wrote:Not related directly to 2G scam, but its of telecom in nature and it deserves to be posted in full.

Minister steals a telephone exchange, loots BSNL

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 03 Jun 2011 23:33

http://politicsparty.com/MONEY_PANIC.php

latest from PP guy. Raul is out of country to relocate something.

Tamang · Post by **Tamang** » 03 Jun 2011 23:34

Manishw wrote:Srk, Sk and Digvijay singh are totally exposed.They have nothing better than to say that only people who are in politics have a right to protest against corruption nobody else.People are starting to find out the real villains of our motherland.Hopefully many more skeletons will tumble.Keeping my fingers crossed.

SK?

Rajdeep/Bhupen were trying there level best to dig up dirt on Ramdev, they had likes of Shabnam Hashmi, Digvijay etc as supporting cast. Hashmi kept referring to Ramdev supporters as goons.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Jun 2011 23:40

Manishw wrote:Srk, Sk and Digvijay singh are totally exposed.They have nothing better than to say that only people who are in politics have a right to protest against corruption nobody else.People are starting to find out the real villains of our motherland.Hopefully many more skeletons will tumble.Keeping my fingers crossed.

here you go!!!!!

SRK swims against Baba tide

Note the subtle haedline. When you oppose anyone you are taking a stand.

June 2: On a day many were bending over backwards to either dissuade yoga guru Baba Ramdev from launching an indefinite fast from Saturday or stand by him, actor Shah Rukh Khan did not mince any words.

“Koi support nahin karunga... unka agenda hai... jaise hi koi neta ho jata hai... voh yeh sab karne lagta hai (I will not support him... he’s got an agenda... as soon as one becomes a leader... one resorts to such agitations),” the actor told reporters in Indore in reply to a question.

His plainspeak came as the UPA government intensified efforts to turn Ramdev around and the BJP declared support for him ( ).

Shah Rukh, who shares a good rapport with the Nehru-Gandhi family but had stayed off the campaign trail during the general elections of 2004 and 2009, explained why he disliked the patronising attitude towards politics and politicians.

“Jo jiska kam ho, usko voh karna chahiye… agar koi neta ban kar karna chahta hai to that is not the right way to raise an issue (One should do what is appropriate for him or her. If someone tries to slip into the shoes of a politician, that is not the right way to do it),” he said.

{Shouldnt he stick to acting?}

Tweeters also made their presence felt, though some tweets were less reverential of the yoga guru than those Anna Hazare had evoked when he went on a fast. Among the yoga guru’s corruption-buster demands are withdrawal of currency notes of Rs 500 and Rs 1,000 and introduction of Hindi as a medium of instruction in medical and technical colleges.

“Imagine, just imagine the millions McDonalds would pay if Baba broke his fast with a McAlooTikki and said ‘I’m loving it’. Jokes apart, anything that shakes this smug govt on corruption may help. You go Baba,” tweeted author Chetan Bhagat.

“I wanna be a private jet flying Baba too. Any followers?” asked a tweet attributed to Abhinav Bindra.

Actor Anupam Kher, a vocal supporter of Hazare, tweeted: “I liked Baba Ramdev’s body language on TV, walking to private jet. He looked focused and determined. Bheegha hua aadmi baarish se nahi darta.”

In Indore to promote his movie Ra.One, Shah Rukh took the opportunity to appeal to youths not to fall prey to corruption. Without mentioning either the 2G or the Commonwealth Games scandals, he said current instances of corruption in public life had saddened him. Shah Rukh’s associate and event manager Karim Morani is currently in jail in connection with the 2G scam.

Asked if he wanted to become a politician, the actor said: “Why do you think I am joining politics, why don’t you imagine a neta joining the film industry?”

However, Shah Rukh soon proved why he can give any politician stiff competition. Asked whether he would again pair up with Salman Khan in a movie, the actor said: “You should ask me whether I will be seen with female actresses like Katrina Kaif, Kareena Kapoor, etc.… Why do you want to fix me with a male actor?”

So who thinks he is just a filmi type!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Jun 2011 00:12

Baba Ramdev's fast is really shaking up UPA govt. They are pulling all stops to dissuade him. I guess they have analyzed TN results and understood the impact of corruption in the election outcome.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Jun 2011 00:14

PP has a preview of the UPA chaos.

http://www.politicsparty.com/MONEY_PANIC.php

So the glitterati campaign on twitter, interviews is all part of trying to discredit Ramdev's fast.

Is Anna Hazare still joining him or what?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 04 Jun 2011 00:22

Every corrupt systme is afraid of an honest man.
Rajguru Ramdev Baba's success will reverse both Deracination and Corruption. He is a man on a mission and it scare all RNIs. IMHO, he is the first man to connect with the soul of India since 47.The oppertunities and prospects are infinte in taking the Desh back from the Corrupt Congressi crooks and put on the right cvilizational path of progress and properity. Whole world is watching.

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 04 Jun 2011 00:26

Prem ji,

Dont put all your hopes on one person.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Jun 2011 00:45

The Maran scam per Tehelka

http://www.tehelka.com/story_main49.asp ... rstory.asp

Looks quite deep extortion and racketeering.
They made an independent businessman sell his company to their family!