Lovely!Anujan wrote:India should urge restraint, ask US to not jump to conclusions and offer to play the part of a intermediary where we can talk to Pakistan and arrange some sort of a joint Pakistan-US investigation to establish who the culprits were. US should also hand over any evidence it has to Pakistan so that Pakistani courts can prosecute the culprits. Ultimately US should realize that it is making the Af-Pak border a nuclear flashpoint.
I think it would end up somewhere between present day Somalia and Syria.US bomb warning to Pakistan ignored
He warned that Pakistan was heading towards international isolation. "If it keeps going like this, it could end up like Syria – before the Arab spring."
Beware! He will pick out a Portuguese or Icelandic statement to read.Altair wrote:SM Krishna can read any dumb ass statements given to him.
Altair
Unlike during the Cold War when Pakistan was able to exploit U.S.-Soviet rivalry to maintain its position against India, Pakistan is looking very isolated right now. In the anti-Soviet jihad in Afghanistan in the 1980s it had American and Saudi support. This time around it is hard to find any country which will help it.
In Afghanistan ordinary people are opening blaming the ISI for the country’s troubles. Russia is worried about instability in Afghanistan spilling over into the former Soviet Central Asia and about drug smuggling pushing up the numbers of heroin addicts whose growth is already gnawing away at its economy. Moscow has been more resistant even than the United States to the idea of taking former Taliban off a UN sanctions list to create a better climate for talks. Relations with neighbouring Iran tend to go up and down, but are not helped by a spate of killings of Shi’ites by Sunni extremists in Pakistan. China is interested only in stability and securing its access through Pakistan to oil supplies and raw materials. For all Pakistan’s “deeper than the oceans” faith in Chinese friendship, it is unlikely to ride to its rescue in a confrontation with the United States over Afghanistan.
Ironically, India is being projected as a way out of the quagmire with the prospect of regional trade offered as a solution to Pakistan’s deepening economic gloom. But India – indeed far more than the United States – has tended to be more suspicious of the Pakistan military and the government has justified to its domestic critics the current peace process as a way of supporting civilian democracy in Pakistan.
Wonder if Desh also has been having chai biskoot with balochis or this has been outsourced to Unkil to handle?>>Some Americans are in contact with some Balochis since the Osama raid and subsequent developments.
They have been in contact for a long time now. So has Auntie's people... Several top Baloch leaders are esconced in Londonistan. No surprise there of course.
Friends Must adjust a little bit here & there, a little uneasy thats it.The WHO said that a strain of WPV1 polio in China’s western Xinjiang province has been genetically linked with the type currently circulating in Pakistan...
Chinese authorities have started a countrywide investigation into the matter, with a mass vaccination campaign being launched in Xinjiang.
The UN health agency said it rates as 'high' the risk of further international spread of WPV from Pakistan, particularly given the expected largescale population movements associated with Umrah and the upcoming Haj pilgrimage in the coming months.
Pakistan is affected by nationwide transmission of WPV1, and is the location of the only wild poliovirus type 3 (WPV3) case in Asia in 2011, the WHO said.
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"As per recommendations outlined in WHO's international travel and health, travellers to and from Pakistan should be fully protected by vaccination," it said. Travellers to Pakistan who have in the past received three or more doses of OPV should be offered another dose of polio vaccine before departure, the WHO said.
Some polio-free countries may also require travellers from Pakistan to be immunized against polio in order to obtain an entry visa, the WHO said.
shiv wrote:Beware! He will pick out a Portuguese or Icelandic statement to read.Altair wrote:SM Krishna can read any dumb ass statements given to him.
Altair
Also, the business networks of their targets. Eg: Gen. A has a sugar factory at location Alpha with godowns at location beta,his partners are Major B and Col.C who also have textile mills @ location gamma and delta respectively.. they have their stocks arriving on jumma day..JE Menon wrote:>>Wonder if Desh also has been having chai biskoot with balochis or this has been outsourced to Unkil to handle?
Only moral and diplomatic support, of the kind that the Pakisatans used to give the Kashmiris in the 1990s.
. No wonder Indiands follow US debatesd more passionately than they do their own political debtes.). . And all that Newt Gingrich could say was that TSP poses an important problem.CRamSCRamS wrote: This in turn means that Pentagon/CIA boses through their media mouthpieces have not diseminated TSP perfidy to the joe six pack to elicit any strong support for some tough action against TSP.
Thus, despite the public tough-talking posture from 1500-star general Mullen, I don't expect any escalation. Looks like CIA/Pentagon strategists still have an open line of communication with Kiyani and there is still trust in him to deliver. India should better watch out. As Kiyani gives in, in return for US delivering on India which is Kiyani's main objective, US could very well be working on the Perkovich, Fair bimbo formula with willing collaboraters in New Delhi.
Rick Perry made the comment here :- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0T1GFV0 ... age#t=231sPerry stumbles in debate on Taliban nukes question
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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - Front-runner Rick Perry stumbled during the Republican presidential candidates' debate on Thursday when asked what he would do if he got a 3 a.m. call alerting him that the Taliban had gotten nuclear weapons from Pakistan.
"Well obviously, before you ever get to that point you have to build a relationship in that region. That's one of the things that this administration has not done," the Texas governor replied at the debate in Orlando, Florida.
Perry made a reference to recent U.S. military accusations that Pakistan's intelligence service was backing Afghanistan's Haqqani insurgent group in carrying out attacks against U.S. targets, including the American Embassy in Afghanistan.
Then he talked about the importance of improving relations with India, Pakistan's neighbor and nuclear rival.
"So to have a relationship with India, to make sure that India knows that they are an ally of the United States. For instance when we had the opportunity to sell India the upgraded F-16s, we chose not to do that ... The point is, our allies need to understand clearly that we are their friends, we will be standing by there with them," Perry replied.
"Today, we don't have those allies in that region that can assist us if that situation that you talked about were to become a reality."
The answer raised doubts about Perry's foreign policy expertise in the region where the United States has been at war for a decade.
Candidate Rick Santorum, who has gained little traction in the race for the Republican nomination to challenge President Barack Obama in 2012, said Perry had failed to answer the question about the Taliban obtaining nuclear weapons.
"Working with allies at that point is the last thing we want to do. We want to work in that country to make sure the problem is defused," Santorum said.
Shouldn't it be kept a secret?? God Forbid if some unwanted people are lurking here, might as well bring trouble to some poor people!Altair wrote: There is a huge underground moment against TSPA and right now they are not organized but they however outnumber TSPArmy manytimes over. There is huge anger against Army and it is growing everyday as more people disappear. It is only a matter of time before a complete breakdown happens.
Although it cannot be verified it can be assumed that Arms are being supplied to Balochis.
CRamSCRamS wrote:Altair,
I know that, but usually disay cutters are preceeded by hot air demates and self righteous pontifications about US victimhood, doing God's own work, the white man's burden etc. Noting of the sort seems to be on the horizon. So, yes, CIA/Pentagon bosses maybe planning some covert action, but in the covert game, given the terrain, suicidal Islam etc, I feel ISI is more endowed than CIA/RAW combined.
sabotageLalmohan wrote:if the US were to undertake sustained and heavy airstrikes against the haqqani operating locations
what can TSPA/F actually do?
They would try to take out a few targets, get some kills in dogfight, bomb some nearby bases etc etc, when they run out of A/Cs and supplies and are severely damaged/destroyed, they would fire their missiles at anything and everything that they can think of leading to destruction of a few in the region. Then the Paki elite will flee to safe asylums and from such safe havens, would watch the show of total annihilation of the nation!Lalmohan wrote:if the US were to undertake sustained and heavy airstrikes against the haqqani operating locations
what can TSPA/F actually do?
Sorry, I hadn't noticed the Haqqani network. I was thinking air strikes against TSP itself. All airstrikes will be based on intel and US is lacking in HUMINT and TECHINT of Haqqanis, as a report suggested! I guess PA will try to hide the Haqqanis from such strikes as much as possible and if push comes to shove, might give them up, after all, there is an abundance of haqqanis in Pakiland. How long would it take to raise another group up!Lalmohan wrote:tspa is not stupid enough to actually fight anyone
And ever since forever, War is a sure shot means of lifting an economy out of the basement. It is just a lot of deficit spending, but it works. And really, the US has not had a worthy oponent in either Iraq or Afghanistan. The paki will do a little mbetter than those two - well, atleast better than the Afghan's taliban.They do not have time to prepare their nation for a surgical attack on Pakistan as it takes lot of time for the message to trickle down and their economy is doing no better
Only if he can recall why he stood up in the first place - ie whether it was to read or go to the loo or what.harbans wrote: Expect SMK to read lifafa's claiming how illegal it is of the US to be bombing our brothers in the region type of statement..
Threaten to help?Lalmohan wrote:if the US were to undertake sustained and heavy airstrikes against the haqqani operating locations
what can TSPA/F actually do?
JE Menon wrote:Threaten to help?Lalmohan wrote:if the US were to undertake sustained and heavy airstrikes against the haqqani operating locations
what can TSPA/F actually do?
Just stay on sidelines and watch diwali. Tempting to say it but silly to say so.Hari Seldon wrote:Brilliant, sir.Anujan wrote:India should urge restraint, ask US to not jump to conclusions and offer to play the part of a intermediary where we can talk to Pakistan and arrange some sort of a joint Pakistan-US investigation to establish who the culprits were. US should also hand over any evidence it has to Pakistan so that Pakistani courts can prosecute the culprits. Ultimately US should realize that it is making the Af-Pak border a nuclear flashpoint.
They probably are already moving haqqanis away from their known locations. Expect million dollars missile to take out empty "operating locations"Lalmohan wrote:
if the US were to undertake sustained and heavy airstrikes against the haqqani operating locations
what can TSPA/F actually do?
The Express Tribune correspondent Shehzad Baloch said that those killed were coal miners belonging to the Hazara Shia community.
The armed men forced the passengers off the van and after identifying three men as ethnic Hazara Shia, shot them dead.
Rather than the Haqqani Network, it would be more appropriate to call this the Waziristan Militant Complex.
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The bottom line is that the militants in Waziristan depend on the jihad for their survival and thus have to oppose any settlement.
Rezhasan Rezaul Hasan Laskar
Adm Mullen "knows fully well which all countries are in contact with Haqqanis. Singling out Pakistan is neither fair nor productive: Kayani.
When I spoke to a former head of the ISI, General Asad Durrani, on the programme last night, he went even further: Pakistan should be supporting the anti-US opposition in Afghanistan, he said. If the US insists on launching drone strikes against targets in Pakistan, sometimes killing innocent Pakistani civilians, then the US and Pakistan are in a state of what he called "low-intensity conflict".