Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 11 Aug 2012 17:15

AWOL soldier plotting Fort Hood attack sentenced to life

Army Pfc. Naser Jason Abdo was AWOL from Fort Campbell, Ky., when he was arrested with bomb-making materials on July 27, 2011, at America’s Best Value Inn and Suites in Killeen, Texas, near Fort Hood.

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According to the criminal complaint, Abdo had smokeless gunpowder, pressure cookers, clocks, shotgun shells and other components that could be used to build "destructive devices," and an article titled “Make a bomb in the kitchen of your Mom.” He also had obtained a military uniform with Fort Hood patches.

In a recorded police interview, Abdo said he was planning to pull off an attack in the Fort Hood area "because I don't appreciate what my unit did in Afghanistan," according to an Associated Press report.

Defense attorneys argued for acquittal on grounds Abdo's plot did not go past the planning stage.

Abdo joined the army in April 2009.

But in 2010, he refused to deploy to Afghanistan with his unit, telling reporters at the time that he had come to believe it was at odds with his Muslim faith.

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 11 Aug 2012 19:13

^^^

Abdo was granted conscientious objector status, but the Army put his discharge on hold after they allegedly discovered child ***** on Abdo’s computer. The private disappeared shortly after that case was referred to a general court-martial.

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 12 Aug 2012 12:37

Just from the from the last few weeks....

Christians in Gaza protesting forced conversions

Pakistan: Massive Outrage over Hindu Girls forced Conversion

Egypt: US professor says Coptic Girls being Kidnapped and forced into servitude in Egypt

Am sure, that there'll be more examples from Bangladesh, if we google.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 12 Aug 2012 19:11

look at how "massive outrage" is according to ToI. what is the situation on ground in Pak, nobody knows. but Indian media conveniently says it's "massive outrage".

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 12 Aug 2012 19:41

Anindya wrote:Just from the from the last few weeks....

Christians in Gaza protesting forced conversions

Pakistan: Massive Outrage over Hindu Girls forced Conversion

Egypt: US professor says Coptic Girls being Kidnapped and forced into servitude in Egypt

Am sure, that there'll be more examples from Bangladesh, if we google.

The Coptic women have been targeted before - on the excuse and example of Mariam. One of the problems is that the English language media fails to pick up regional language mullah fulminations. Its not just Christians, the Jews too have now been targeted for their women. Mullahcracy everywhere demand that the non-Muslim must give up their land, property, and women and leave - if they want to be alive - and it is done on the claim of precedence by the founder. I have been given transcripts of the religious meetings campaigns from BD and Egypt. Of course it could be dismissed as psy-ops by vilifiers of the religion. But at least for some of the material, I can check out the videos myself - as the material coming from Sylhet.

arun · Post by **arun** » 13 Aug 2012 07:06

Protest during the Ramadan / Ramazan month by Mohammaddens in support of alien co-religionists namely Bangladeshi Muslims in Assam and Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar, turns violent in Mumbai and leaves two dead:

Indian police probe violence in Muslim protest in Mumbai

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 14 Aug 2012 02:20

MB linked Moroccan Minister: Sometimes the marriage of a Raped girl to her rapist, does not really harm her

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 14 Aug 2012 02:49

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/08/13/2 ... -with.html
Romney’s Israel claim fits in with GOP’s Muslim ‘Southern Strategy

When Mitt Romney claimed that Israel’s “culture” is responsible for its economic superiority, he was recycling the “Southern Strategy”— this time with Muslims and Arabs added to the mix.
The GOP devised the Southern Strategy in the 1960s and ’70s as a way to win over white voters with subtle racial messages about crime and welfare. African-American men were coded as criminals to be locked up, and poverty was presented as a product of “black culture” not to be encouraged through government “handouts.” Romney’s backhanded hailing of Palestinian “culture” fits this framework.
The election of President Obama in 2008 — and Democratic victories in states like Virginia and North Carolina that year — signaled a blow to the traditional Southern Strategy. Yet if Obama’s African-American roots were no longer going to be as useful, his Muslim familial connections would quickly rise to prominence. Obama was “accused” during his campaign of being a “secret Muslim,” a charge that would come back again and again. Amazingly, even today 17 percent of the public believes he’s Muslim. A whopping 34 percent of conservative GOP voters identify him as Muslim, more than twice the level during his presidential campaign in 2008.The new GOP Southern Strategy highlights Muslims and Arabs as the key threats to national security and “law and order,” even while the old strategy persists.
Muslims and Arabs have been incorporated into the Southern Strategy, and Islamophobia will continue to thrive this election season unless people of conscience speak out.Deepa Kumar is the author of the new book “Islamophobia and the Politics of Empire.”

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 14 Aug 2012 04:51

Deepa Kumar, from Bangalore Univ, has managed to tap the Islamophobia market and build herself some footprint...

Fighting Islamophobia: A Response to Critics by Deepa Kumar

Challenging Islamophobia: An Assessment of the "Ground Zero Mosque" Debate by Deepa Kumar

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 14 Aug 2012 06:38

"Let me throw a few more atrocities into the mix: Islamic fundamentalists have murdered and tortured religious minorities just as they have traumatized Muslim men and women with their ultra-orthodox practices; Hindu fundamentalist killed thousands of Muslims in a vicious pogroms against Muslims in the state of Gujarat; the Nazis killed six million Jews, and today Neo-Nazis in Europe have threatened to massacre Muslims at the upcoming World Cup in Germany.

What conclusions do we draw from this? That fundamentalists and fascists have often relied on particular interpretations of the world's major religions to justify their actions. Yet, it is only Islam that apparently needs to be scrutinized."

http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2006/kumar030406.html

== onlee. we've been on the receiving end of islam's bullsh*t. Muslims are a truly hopeless lot. Just sit around and do nothing like their brethren in the middle east and soak up tax money. The good ones aren't really muslim. Ms Kumar will change her mind when she is wearing the burqa and being slapped around by religious police for espousing the same secular nonsense.

arun · Post by **arun** » 14 Aug 2012 07:10

The Mohammadden holy month of Ramadan / Ramazan / Ramzan brings forth a cornucopia of pious action in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the “Land of the Pure”, with the more pure seeking to ram Islamic piety down the throats of the less pure:

No dance parties but dars allowed, rules DHA

Stop uploading songs on mobile phones, warns Taliban pamphlet

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 14 Aug 2012 10:00

RoyG, see INC needs to build a constant sense of victimhood in the community to get thier votes en masse, Deepa Kumar, A Roy, Meena Kandasawamy etc etc are all for this purpose.

All these secularists have an escape visa plan when the shit hits the fan.

Friday violence is just the begining, its gone too far now, we just have to brace for the consequences.

I suggets hope the seculars get the rough end of the stick for the actions they have done.

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 14 Aug 2012 21:56

^^ This Meena has been spewing so much hate against the Hindus...And she is also now a strong proponent of AIT based on "her research" ... She is also actively trying to create a Dalit-Muslim nexus

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 14 Aug 2012 22:00

kshatriya wrote:^^ This Meena has been spewing so much hate against the Hindus...And she is also now a strong proponent of AIT based on "her research" ... She is also actively trying to create a Dalit-Muslim nexus

it is not true. it all exists in your feverish mind, which is full of delusional fantasies. some would even say that it is a symptom of being a parasitic ingrate. and yet some others will warn you that speaking of such things results in a 'fair game' on your life.

on a more serious note, there have to be consequences for such behavior. if you insist on propagating blind hatred of Hindus, then there has to be a counter institutional architecture which delegitimizes it by various actions which also act as incentives to not do the same in future.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 14 Aug 2012 23:33

SION announces Sikh/Hindu coalition

In the wake of the neo-Nazi murder of six Sikhs at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, the international human rights organization Stop Islamization of Nations (SION), recognizing the need to protect Sikhs and Hindus and stand up for their rights, has formed an international coalition with Sikh and Hindu organizations.

The objective of this first-of-its-kind workshop is to develop media-related mechanisms to address the smear campaigns. It will also address the media's double standard regarding Islam and other religions.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 14 Aug 2012 23:39

Aryan Nations: Islam is our ally

America's homegrown terrorists, the Aryan Nations, have allied themselves with the Islamic jihadists.

Further, seeing the errors of the past, we have taken this approach with alliances to Islamic adherents, because we find their standards of morality to be nearly analogous to our own

The dots are now connected. Terror has not converged under one platform.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 14 Aug 2012 23:46

good! they belong with each other.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 15 Aug 2012 00:19

^^^This is pretty old - from the time of Malcolm X. White supremacists openly expressed solidarity with Nation of Islam. That should be one more indicator as to who handles both the faces simultaneously.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 15 Aug 2012 00:28

brihaspati wrote:^^^This is pretty old - from the time of Malcolm X. White supremacists openly expressed solidarity with Nation of Islam. That should be one more indicator as to who handles both the faces simultaneously.

Naziz were openly collaborating with the Islamists during WWII. Similarity of views and all.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 15 Aug 2012 00:48

Naziz were openly collaborating with the Islamists during WWII. Similarity of views and all.

They both were heretics of Christ.
WWII was also a religious war despite the secular spin on it.

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 15 Aug 2012 01:15

SION announces Sikh/Hindu coalition

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/08/sion- ... ition.html

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 15 Aug 2012 01:15

All wars are religious

ranjbe · Post by **ranjbe** » 15 Aug 2012 07:41

English chess hit by race row over 'abuse of young Muslim players'
A race row has engulfed the normally cerebral world of English chess after claims that three young Muslim players suffered abuse from parents of other competitors

White female converts to Islam are worse than those born into ROP!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/ches ... ayers.html

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 15 Aug 2012 09:06

ranjbe wrote:English chess hit by race row over 'abuse of young Muslim players'

Mr Rahman, from Marshland St James, Norfolk, said the problems started when the hotel where they were staying failed to provide his family with halal food or serve meals at times so that his wife and eldest son could observe Ramadan.

So there you have it. Special treatment and entitlement was not given when demanded.

arun · Post by **arun** » 15 Aug 2012 09:51

anupmisra wrote:
ranjbe wrote:English chess hit by race row over 'abuse of young Muslim players'

Mr Rahman, from Marshland St James, Norfolk, said the problems started when the hotel where they were staying failed to provide his family with halal food or serve meals at times so that his wife and eldest son could observe Ramadan.

So there you have it. Special treatment and entitlement was not given when demanded.

The palpable sense of Mohammadden entitlement that is evident in this particular case seems to be entirely misplaced. Going by the report published in 2009 by the UK based group, Civitas, I understand that in the first place Mohammaddenim prohibited the playing of Chess and this prohibition was based on what the Prophet of that religion had to say:

‘the Holy Prophet… stated the person who plays chess, is like the one who dips his hands in the blood of a swine (pig)’,

Extract from here:

Music, Chess and other Sins: Segregation, Integration, and Muslim Schools in Britain

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Aug 2012 00:49

What could be the rationale for such a comparison!

Meanwhile Nightwatch reports:

Tunisia: For the record. Islamist extremists have targeted two Tunisian Olympic medalists for behavior and dress seen as un-Islamic. On social media networks they called on the government to strip Habiba Ghribi, the first Tunisian woman to win an Olympic medal, of her nationality because her running outfit was too revealing.

What did she do?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 16 Aug 2012 03:39

Jail bharo

Men should be allowed sex slaves and female prisoners could do the job - and all this from a WOMAN politician from Kuwait

A Kuwaiti woman who once ran for parliament has called for sex slavery to be legalised - and suggested that non-Muslim prisoners from war-torn countries would make suitable concubines.

Salwa al Mutairi argued buying a sex-slave would protect decent, devout and 'virile' Kuwaiti men from adultery because buying an imported sex partner would be tantamount to marriage.

And she even had an idea of where to 'purchase' these sex-salves - browsing through female prisoners of war in other countries.

The political activist and TV host even suggested that it would be a better life for women in warring countries as the might die of starvation.

Mutairi claimed: 'There was no shame in it and it is not haram' (forbidden) under Islamic Sharia law.'
She gave the example of Haroun al-Rashid, an 8th century Muslim leader who ruled over an area covered by modern-day Iran, Iraq and Syria and was rumoured to have 2,000 concubines.

Mutairi recommended that offices could be opened to run the sex trade in the same way that recruitment agencies provide housemaids.

She suggested shopping for prisoners of war so as to protect Kuwaiti men from being tempted to commit adultery or being seduced by other women's beauty.

'For example, in the Chechnyan war, surely there are female Russian captives,' she said.

'So go and buy those and sell them here in Kuwait. Better than to have our men engage in forbidden sexual relations.'

Her unbelievable argument for her plan was that ‘captives’ might 'just die of hunger over there'.

She insisted, 'I don’t see any problem in this, no problem at all'.

In an attempt to consider the woman's feelings in the arrangement, Mutari conceded that the enslaved women, however, should be at least 15.

Mutairi said free women must be married with a contract but with concubines 'the man just buys her and that’s it. That’s enough to serve as marriage.'

Her remarks, made in a video posted on YouTube last month and carried by newspapers in the Gulf states in recent days, have sparked outrage in cyber-space from fellow Kuwaitis and others in the wider region.

'Wonder how Salwa al Mutairi would’ve felt if during the occupation (of Kuwait) by Iraqi forces, she was sold as ‘war booty’ as she advocates for Chechen women,' tweeted Mona Eltahawy.

Another tweeter, Shireen Qudosi, told Mutairi 'you’re a disgrace to women everywhere'.

For Muna Khan, an editor at the Saudi-owned Al Arabiya television station, the 'icing on the cake' of Mutairi’s 'preposterous views' was her assertion that her suggestions do not conflict with the tenets of Islam.

Mutairi said that during a recent visit to Mecca, she asked Saudi muftis – Muslim religious scholars – what the Islamic ruling was on owning sex slaves. They are said to have told her that it is not haram.

The ruling was confirmed by 'specialized people of the faith' in Kuwait, she claimed.

'They said, that’s right, the only solution for a decent man who has the means, who is overpowered by desire and who does not want to commit fornication, is to acquire jawari.' Jawari is the plural of the Arabic term jariya, meaning 'concubine' or 'sex slave'.

One Saudi mufti supposedly told Mutairi: 'The context must be that of a Muslim nation conquering a non-Muslim nation, so these jawari have to be prisoners of war.' ((How very convenient to have such cooperative clergy ))

Concubines, she argued, would suit Muslim men who fear being 'seduced or tempted into immoral behaviour by the beauty of their female servants'.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Aug 2012 04:13

^ shows how Muslim women view other non-Muslim women.

Thinking that somehow a Muslim women develops a different world view after exposed to Islam compared to a Muslim man is incorrect.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 16 Aug 2012 04:57

Do you think BDSM enthusiasts only grace the decadent hereticlands?

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 16 Aug 2012 05:29

Hamburg signs historic deal with Muslims

These community groups, representing the Hamburg's 120,000 Muslims, have agreed to recognize the "basic values of constitutional order," to reject "violence and discrimination based on origin, sexual orientation, and faith" and "religious and political viewpoints," and to recognize "equality between genders."

In exchange, Hamburg city authorities will declare Eid al-Adha ("Festival of Sacrifice"), Eid ul-Fitr (the end of Ramadan), and the Day of Ashura ("Day of Mourning"), officially recognised holidays.

Is this a good premise?

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 16 Aug 2012 05:34

Shades of Mumbai....

French rioters from France's Muslim former colonies

At least three drivers were pulled from their cars, which were used, along with dozens of dustbins, to form barricades. About a dozen other vehicles were burnt in the violence, which follows months of tension in a city otherwise known best for its 13th-century cathedral. Police responded by firing flashballs and teargas at the rioters.

“The confrontations were very, very violent,” said Gilles Demailly, the Mayor of Amiens.

A farmer who lives in a village a mile from the estates described the shock as rural France came face to face with urban anger. “It felt like we were in a Western,” said the cereal producer, who asked not to be named. “There was shooting all over the place and the smell of burning rubber everywhere.

“I went out when I heard people driving up to the farm at about midnight. I thought they were local folk, but then I saw they had masks covering their faces. I got into my tractor to get away, but they threw iron bars at the windows, which exploded.”

Sylvie Ramet, the head teacher at Voltaire primary school, was stunned to discover the blackened remains of the building after the night's violence. “There are no words to describe what I feel. I'm weak at the knees. The place where I work has just been annihilated. It's just senseless to attack a school in this way. It's incomprehensible.”

A blog posted on a French website, apparently by one of the rioters, who called himself 8Z, included a video that showed dozens of youths cheering as they set fire to dustbins.

The blog portrayed the council estates of Amiens as the setting for high unemployment and “oppression by fascist police” - a familiar complaint from immigrant community youths, who say that they are targeted under stop-and-search policies.

It described the rioters as “the opposition” and ran through the list of the mostly Muslim former French colonies from which it said they were from: “Algerians, Tunisians, Moroccans, Gabonese, Malians and Cameroonians, we are all here and we are opposing.”

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 16 Aug 2012 07:31

Anindya wrote:Hamburg signs historic deal with Muslims

These community groups, representing the Hamburg's 120,000 Muslims, have agreed to recognize the "basic values of constitutional order," to reject "violence and discrimination based on origin, sexual orientation, and faith" and "religious and political viewpoints," and to recognize "equality between genders."

In exchange, Hamburg city authorities will declare Eid al-Adha ("Festival of Sacrifice"), Eid ul-Fitr (the end of Ramadan), and the Day of Ashura ("Day of Mourning"), officially recognised holidays.
Is this a good premise?

Perhaps not. Each of these days have specific connotations of gradual assertion of power in the early foundations of Islam. They were all started as specifically Muslim rituals i[even if the first two are traceable to a mix of Judaic and pre-Islamic Arab practices] in the founding days in particularly interesting circumstances : this was specifically the time when the small founding group was trying to establish itself at Jewish controlled Yathrib after moving out from Mecca. The tone at this stage was conciliatory, and of "compromise".

In later literature this period is explained as a tactical stage of getting accepted and neutralizing suspicion. Yathrib Jews would not have given them permission to settle around the oasis network, if Muslims did not show an eagerness to adopt "Judaic" memes. The strategy of allying with most factions of Jews around yathrib, to eliminate an isolated faction fo Jews started after some 2-3 years here. The target of the Muslims as shown by the resulting consequences - was the fertile oasis lands, young Jewish women, and wealth the jews had accumulated working the land. It was a cleanout operation over the next 10 years, after which it was renamed Medina.

Skanda · Post by **Skanda** » 16 Aug 2012 14:54

Saudi woman’s historic bow over in 82 seconds

The teenager has only been practising judo for two years and has a blue belt. If not for her special invitation, she would never have qualified for the Olympics.

AoA indeed.

Skanda · Post by **Skanda** » 16 Aug 2012 15:00

Sons sell off mother for Rs30,000

"My husband belongs to the Shiekh clan and my sons had threatened to kill me if I remarried. That was why they sold me," says Bashiraan Bibi.

HAFIZABAD: Two men sold their mother for Rs30,000 to a man who kept her tied up and raped her for three days. The accused have been arrested by police officials.

Mohalla Saghar Hafizabad resident Bashiraan Bibi said that she had nine sons and daughters and her husband had died four years ago.

Bashiraan said that her older sons Ansar and Ghazanfar used to abuse her frequently. A few days ago, the men sold her to village Mehdiabad resident Abbas for Rs30,000. “Abbas tied me up for three days and tortured me. He raped me several times,” she told the police. Bashiraan said that she escaped Abbas’s custody after four days and reached the residence of one of her relatives.

Bashiraan then married Hafiz Bashir in the court of civil judge Iftikharul Nabi.

“My husband belongs to the Shiekh clan and my sons had threatened to kill me if I remarried. That was why they sold me,” she said. Bashiraan has sought police protection from her sons and said that she wanted police officials to arrest them. On her application, City Police have registered cases against Ansar, Ghazanfar and Abbas. City Police Station House Officer (SHO) Syed Airf Hussain Shah said that the police had arrested Ansar and Ghazanfar and were still investigating the whereabouts of Abbas.

sum · Post by **sum** » 16 Aug 2012 15:35

^^ Truely a new meaning to the phrase : "will even sell their mother for money"

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Aug 2012 15:45

^ why this surprise? Is it because the victim is a Muslim woman? Just few posts above a female MP of Kuwait was asking the govt to BUY non-Muslim woman as Jawari and somehow it went uncommented ...

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 16 Aug 2012 21:21

These NYCY, San Francisco public-transit ads imply Muslims are "savages

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... s-mta-muni

arun · Post by **arun** » 16 Aug 2012 21:50

RamaY wrote:^ why this surprise? Is it because the victim is a Muslim woman? Just few posts above a female MP of Kuwait was asking the govt to BUY non-Muslim woman as Jawari and somehow it went uncommented ...

May have gone uncommented because the story of the female Kuwaiti legislator recommending Non Mohammadden sex slaves for Mohammadden males was old hat.

Check out Page 11 of this very thread at the post here.

And then check out, again on this very thread also on page 11 this other post

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Aug 2012 23:16

^ my observation is that the M-woman think somehow they are more pious than non-M woman. Another fact is that they think it a sacrifice for the sake of love/lover when they transgress, but call it to be adultery and immorality when non-M woman transgress.

They also think it is ok for their husbands to have more than one wife and even zawaria. But when they observe same behavior in non-M males, they say the non-M are immoral. They feel comfortable with the fact that many muslim rulers and even the prophet had large harems but they complain about hindu gods and Sri Krishna being immoral.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Aug 2012 23:27

^^^
Monogamy is a Christian differentiator in ancient Middle East.

Both Abraham and Muhammad were polygamists.

The whole Mormon question depends on this.