China Military Watch - Jan 11, 2011

member_23370 · Post by **member_23370** » 12 Oct 2012 20:40

Wow the quality of chinese products sucks but you would think they could master photoshop by now.

Sushants · Post by **Sushants** » 12 Oct 2012 21:31

Don,
a free advise, plz dont post propaganda here, the more you and likes post, more mockery you make of china. and if you are a good chini and you can understand what I mean to say then go and earn your 50 cents on some pakistani forum where rabid pigs enjoy propaganda

Indranil · Post by **Indranil** » 12 Oct 2012 22:08

It could be a touch and go

Kanson · Post by **Kanson** » 12 Oct 2012 22:36

Touch and go usually happens on the angled deck.

SKrishna · Post by **SKrishna** » 12 Oct 2012 22:46

To me this looks more like fish-eye lens induced distortion. The distortion is more pronounced around the edges while the aircraft which at the centre is mostly free of any distortion effects. Though I could be wrong, but the way the rivets on the deck on the bottom right corner curves it indicates fish eye distortion. Notice also the horizon also curves with the deck.

nakul · Post by **nakul** » 12 Oct 2012 23:56

Yawn

IN has been doing this when my glandpa had black hair

Shrinivasan · Post by **Shrinivasan** » 13 Oct 2012 00:54

nakul wrote:Yawn

IN has been doing this when my glandpa had black hair

I like it...

Both the picture and your comment...
Is that an Alize taking on in the picture?

Indranil · Post by **Indranil** » 13 Oct 2012 04:10

Kanson wrote:Touch and go usually happens on the angled deck.

It is from the angled deck ... that distortion(angle) is from the use of a fisheye lens

ashi · Post by **ashi** » 13 Oct 2012 08:44

Sushants wrote:Don,
a free advise, plz dont post propaganda here, the more you and likes post, more mockery you make of china. and if you are a good chini and you can understand what I mean to say then go and earn your 50 cents on some pakistani forum where rabid pigs enjoy propaganda

I am sure Don can take a few mockeries, after all the mockeries more reflects your psych. Can you take a few pictures/news or the so called propganda? If yes, then let's move on.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 13 Oct 2012 12:22

^^^

Gents, just one piece of advice. Don't feed the trolls.

Don · Post by **Don** » 13 Oct 2012 16:27

KJ 200

nakul · Post by **nakul** » 13 Oct 2012 16:33

^^^

Please post additional info. Pics without context do not tell us anything about its capabilities.

wong · Post by **wong** » 13 Oct 2012 21:03

nakul wrote:Yawn

IN has been doing this when my glandpa had black hair

LOL. Except for the mass of Indians in that picture, not one thing on that deck is Indian in origin.

I'm sure that difference completely escapes you, but we'll remind when it's war time.

nakul · Post by **nakul** » 13 Oct 2012 21:36

LOL. Except for the mass of Indians in that picture, not one thing on that deck is Indian in origin.

I'm sure that difference completely escapes you, but we'll remind when it's war time.

50 yrs ago, Chinese indigenous fishing boats were using Chinese fishing nets to gather Chinese fish from the Yellow sea

Fast forward to 2012, Chinese pilots are unable to land Russian plane clones on a Soviet carrier having an American numbering system.

We don't care if Chinese weapons are used during war. I pity the men that use them.

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 13 Oct 2012 22:14

Wong:

LOL. Except for the mass of Indians in that picture, not one thing on that deck is Indian in origin.

I'm sure that difference completely escapes you, but we'll remind when it's war time.

At least it wasn't stolen. It is wong to steal. But then China is full of wongs

And in war, you guys will use a lot of wongs as cannon fodder as you did in 62.

Too many wongs dont make a right.

kish · Post by **kish** » 13 Oct 2012 22:22

wong wrote:
nakul wrote:Yawn

IN has been doing this when my glandpa had black hair
LOL. Except for the mass of Indians in that picture, not one thing on that deck is Indian in origin.

I'm sure that difference completely escapes you, but we'll remind when it's war time.

^^^ha ha ha.. You guys are really funny.

The point nakul trying to illustrate is simple. May be let me try to explain it the communist party of china way.

The glorious PLAAN with rich experience operating Aircraft carriers since 2012.

The relatively inexperienced Indian Navy started operating Aircraft carriers since 1960s.

not one thing on that deck is Indian in origin

haha... Varyag is definitely chinese.

but we'll remind when it's war time

Your predictions are insignificant and irrelevant to topic at hand. Let me reiterate what others have said countless times, please maintain sanctity of the thread.

These "Flame Baits" are juvenile stuff. Don't ridicule yourselves stooping so low.

D Roy · Post by **D Roy** » 13 Oct 2012 22:29

But But .. the Varyag and the Su-33 are obviously of Chinese origin.

DavidD · Post by **DavidD** » 13 Oct 2012 22:55

SKrishna wrote:To me this looks more like fish-eye lens induced distortion. The distortion is more pronounced around the edges while the aircraft which at the centre is mostly free of any distortion effects. Though I could be wrong, but the way the rivets on the deck on the bottom right corner curves it indicates fish eye distortion. Notice also the horizon also curves with the deck.

Right, just a touch and go, with some fish-eye lens distortion.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 13 Oct 2012 22:58

Don't forget decimal numerals too Mr Wong. I wonder if the Chinese use the decimal numerals in manuals otherwise it would be pretty cryptic for use.

The red orange yellow colors give a nice colorful zing too.

pralay · Post by **pralay** » 14 Oct 2012 01:52

Don wrote:http://centurychina.com/plaboard/upload ... 758063.jpg

DavidD wrote:
SKrishna wrote:To me this looks more like fish-eye lens induced distortion. The distortion is more pronounced around the edges while the aircraft which at the centre is mostly free of any distortion effects. Though I could be wrong, but the way the rivets on the deck on the bottom right corner curves it indicates fish eye distortion. Notice also the horizon also curves with the deck.
Right, just a touch and go, with some fish-eye lens distortion.

Guys you missed the sea level in the image, it is made in China

Time is now ripe to start a Chenis thread

like the Benis thread

What say?

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 14 Oct 2012 03:25

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/in ... epage=true
In dubious battle at heaven’s gate

We seem to have learned nothing as a country from the Indian Army’s defeat and dishonour in 1962

asprinzl · Post by **asprinzl** » 14 Oct 2012 04:52

The AWACS plane pic above is a photoshop............look at the sunlight/shadow on the plane and compare it with the rest in general.............

member_23858 · Post by **member_23858** » 14 Oct 2012 09:52

^^^ My guess exactly....also so close to ground the ailerons should not be in neutral position, should they....????
For such consistent commitment to photoshop, cheenis should give out Adobe Blavely awards....

member_23858 · Post by **member_23858** » 14 Oct 2012 09:53

BTW does anyone remember the incident with KJ200 in around 2006 in china?????

Don · Post by **Don** » 14 Oct 2012 10:18

Here are more KJ-200 pics

D Roy · Post by **D Roy** » 14 Oct 2012 11:37

Okay I have a question,

does this thread serve any other purpose apart from the following:

1. give chicom drones free bandwidth for jpeg chicomgiri. because all I see is pictures of chicom hardware being posted without any real discussion on their purported capabilities, impact, numbers etc.

2. Threats by chicom drones against India.

3. Occasional Snake oil about the Chinese economy.

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 14 Oct 2012 14:00

^^^I second the assertion.

None of the Chinese posters ever present analysis about weapon systems or their views on the same. The pics/topics are used more to show how 'great' the Chinese are and we then end up in a downward spiral. Chinese posters need to be advised on clear purpose of this thread...in case they already don't.

sarabpal.s · Post by **sarabpal.s** » 14 Oct 2012 14:33

Hey anybody notice that 5 picutre shown above of Chines AWACS,
but in 1 pics AWACS (3rd pics with multiple AWACS in shades) is photoshoped 100%
How? just checked the rear pylon supporting the radar Modules you can seeeee four pylon support.

but in all other four pics Rear pylon is supported by another fifth pylon supporting modules in between two.

Nailed? please confirm

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 14 Oct 2012 18:26

centurychina goes into my iggy bin

sarabpal.s · Post by **sarabpal.s** » 14 Oct 2012 18:57

Technically they may be operating 1 AWACS K200 as test bed. not 4 or 5.

Chines play mind games well but caught always

nash · Post by **nash** » 14 Oct 2012 20:41

in the II Pic of KJ200 i think they have used Photoshop to hide serial number.... why would anyone do that..

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 14 Oct 2012 21:35

D Roy wrote:Okay I have a question,

does this thread serve any other purpose apart from the following:

1. give chicom drones free bandwidth for jpeg chicomgiri. because all I see is pictures of chicom hardware being posted without any real discussion on their purported capabilities, impact, numbers etc.

2. Threats by chicom drones against India.

3. Occasional Snake oil about the Chinese economy.

Add Photoshop to that list. Bet even that product is stolen.

sarabpal.s · Post by **sarabpal.s** » 14 Oct 2012 21:40

nash wrote:in the II Pic of KJ200 i think they have used Photoshop to hide serial number.... why would anyone do that..

no serial no count just sea of photos and talk of big quantity but in actully it just single flying prototype.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 14 Oct 2012 21:41

sarabpal.s wrote:
nash wrote:in the II Pic of KJ200 i think they have used Photoshop to hide serial number.... why would anyone do that..
no serial no count just sea of photos and talk of big quantity but in actully it just single flying ~~prototype~~ phototype.

member_23370 · Post by **member_23370** » 14 Oct 2012 21:45

You want to know the quality of these products you just need to ask pakis whose relatives are in PAF/PN. They are desperate to get western equipment but are forced to go for these mediocre chinese ones. PN went around everywhere looking for subs before they realized they would have to settle for qing. The F-22 was another desperate buy when they realized US will not provide 5-6 OHP's and could't outbid chile for type-23's.

nash · Post by **nash** » 14 Oct 2012 22:51

As per wiki,PLAAF have 5 KJ-2000, which is AWACS and much bigger and may be more complicated than Kj-200, a AEW&C.
It is quite interesting the they are able to develop difficult one but facing tough time in developing the relatively easy one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Peopl ... -200_crash

asprinzl · Post by **asprinzl** » 15 Oct 2012 03:36

In the pic that I mentioned above, a plane on the ground has been put up in the air to look like it is flying.

Don · Post by **Don** » 15 Oct 2012 19:13

I love you guys.

Here are more pics

D Roy · Post by **D Roy** » 15 Oct 2012 19:59

Are you trying to mock us by posting large photoshopped inline images when that is clearly against forum rules?

I am reporting your post.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 15 Oct 2012 20:08

why exactly have the pakis been fobbed off with the round dish thing while PLAAF is presumably going to use KJ200 as their std low end solution?