AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 30 Jul 2013 22:22

viv wrote:
ramana wrote:
The original reasons for AP formation was to remove the non-Telugu speaking areas from the Nizamiat. It was sold as unifying the Telugu people. A bad fruit.

Hope Andhra Pradesh and Telangana can become two havens for Telugu speaking people just as the North Indian states are havens for Hindi speakers.
Ramana: can you elaborate. Isnt current AP in itself haven for Telugu speakers? Why/how would it change with two states? I did not understand.
Also, how were the non-Telugu folks removed?

without 42 seats they have no leverage.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Jul 2013 22:30

The non-Telugu folks were sent off to Maharastra, Karnataka etc.

I want both the states to become havens not just one as in now AP.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 30 Jul 2013 22:33

will the new AP seek a share in all civilian and military r&d shops as well? hyderabad is pricey to let it go.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 30 Jul 2013 22:35

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/BEUQOP ... ngana.html

Hyderabad, which is located in the Telangana region, will be joint capital of Andhra Pradesh and the would-be state for 10 years, Congress general secretary Ajay Maken told reporters.

Are they planning make HYD as another state after 10 years? Will T has to find another city for capital?

ashashi · Post by **ashashi** » 30 Jul 2013 22:36

ramana wrote:So Kurnool and Anathapur in Telangana was a red herring?

I think KCR will not merge his party till everything is really completed.

Chidu must be khush like Magambo.
But then it unleashes Vengi which was tied down so far.

KCR merging his party with INC is a precondition to T state. Congress has no benefit if that doesn't happen. Over the next two months KCR and congress will negotiate the terms. If KCR is not sidelined in this deal, there wont be t state.

BJPs dreams are screwed if KCR merges with INC.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 30 Jul 2013 22:50

Chandragupta wrote:
Manish_Sharma wrote:Are these population %age figures correct for Andhra Pradesh:

http://www.apsmfc.com/ministry-population-cenus.html

Total Population : 7,62,10,007

Hindu Population : 6,78,36,651 = 89.01%

Muslim Population : 69,86,856 = 9.17%

Christian Population : 11,81,917 = 1.55%
___________________________________________

Then how come YSR, Jagan & current CM also a christians were/are carrying Bible to public meetings, having cross in the office?

Making a christian head of Tirupathi Balaji temple & looting funds for EJism.

What would be the real percentage?
An important post that got lost in the discussion. Any pointers to this?

That was 2001 census, much before the neo-conversion tsunami started.

Yayavar · Post by **Yayavar** » 30 Jul 2013 22:51

^^what is the 2011 update ?

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 30 Jul 2013 22:53

They are not releasing the census findings, especially religion based data.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 30 Jul 2013 22:54

viv wrote:^^what is the 2011 update ?

It depends upon whom you are asking. If you ask fear mongerers they will say the new Andhrapradesh is Hindu minority state. Reality is in new AP state Christians+Muslims will be about 15%

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 30 Jul 2013 22:59

Will Telangana be stronger than the new Andhra in sports? kirrikat to start with? IPL would be another fixing. BTW, How do I address people of telangana now? telangan/telanganavadu/telanganite?

SandeepA · Post by **SandeepA** » 30 Jul 2013 23:00

Will there be financial assistance to build a new capital or will this be lost in the din? AP will be $crewed in 10yrs time when it has to surrender HYD if it doesnt recieve the fund

saip · Post by **saip** » 30 Jul 2013 23:06

SaiK wrote:Will Telangana be stronger than the new Andhra in sports? kirrikat to start with? IPL would be another fixing. BTW, How do I address people of telangana now? telangan/telanganavadu/telanganite?

Did Andhra Pradesh ever have single cricket team? It used to be Andhra and Hyderabad teams when I lived there.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 30 Jul 2013 23:07

ShyamSP wrote:
RamaY wrote:PsyQ ji,

IF you can buy land anywhere in Coastal Andhra, do so without any hesitation. It is worth it irrespective of all these political nonsense. Currently an acre land goes from Rs 10L to 1Cr+

I dont know much about Rayalaseema so cannot comment.
Property in Hyderabad (except prime place) for last 7 years has gone down by 20% but prime places including zones where there is new Metro Rail is going through may have gone up by 100-200%.

In Telangana, Warangal has gone up but I don't know much about growth in other areas.

Property in Coastal has gone up by 2-5 times (i.e 200-500%). In Rayalaseema, same case in Tirupati and Kurnool surroundings.

Weaker parts in Rayalaseema and UA may have gone up only by inflation %.

* BTW, these increases are besides inflation considerations. Inflation naturally increases asset prices anyway.

Frankly iam flabbergasted with this property discussion in the AP splitting thread. Forgive me if is sound bitter or harsh but i see this obsessive speculation on land as nothing but the bane of the telugus . From Satyam to CBN .

Just as an example does anyone remember CBN , with his endless wail on the land allotments to Obulapuram project - AFAIK he harped on this nonissue for 2 years in the assembly and outside while forgetting real issues like farm distress, lack of electricity , jobs or general stench of corruption prevalent in the congress regime from road laying to dam construction. Lost 50+ by-elections in the bargain. The actually important question of AP state division was left to the likes of realtors like Lagadapati etc on one side and KCR and his goons (the goto land settlement mafia in Hyd since long) and their expletive ridden public slangmatches. When future generations pullback and analyse this sequence leading to AP state division they will see nothing but this ugly fight between two sets of realtors in public.

Now what good is it if people start with the same mindset in rest of Andhra ?

We should atleast now learn from TN,Maha etc, with their focus on textile sectors, auto industry, education sector strongly linked to the needs of the industries operating in the state, along with the ITES and engineering services (SMEs) .

In contrast AP made some early gains in ITES in the beginning of the decade and instead of reinvesting the gains people reverted to the old addiction of land speculation. Go to any gettogether the discussion inevitably veered towards plots, current estimation of plot value based on speculative guesses of current cost per square yard, new projects coming up and how they effect the land prices,group deals,combo deals... and what not. Hopefully with the division of Andhra such useless streaks in our character will be curtailed and money will be invested in real greenfield industry projects utilizing the port connectivity and energy linkages.

In another story the leeches in coaching industry too (Chaitanya-Narayana ,TIME etc) are currently struggling to remain relevant with the changed weightage (one really have to give credit to kapilsibal for stopping this coaching industry frenzy by changing weightages in JEE and CAT) ,couple this with the empty and teacher-less engineering colleges - expose AP education sector to be nothing but a hollow shell lacking pith.

The only industries now left in AP in which it has a lead compared to other states inspite of 9 years of Telangana speculation is the Pharma industry (in education aspect, the recently mushroomed pharma colleges are well integrated to pharma clusters in Hyderabad - and are good pointer to how education should organically grow by cartering to the needs of the industry in the region) and the Agri biz (coming up in costa and interior pockets).

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 30 Jul 2013 23:09

Looks like Hyderabad status is still ambiguous.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 30 Jul 2013 23:10

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Jul 2013 23:11

Kurnool was supposed to be location of Andhra capital and Guntur was the High Court location. When AP was formed in 1956 they said take the Hyderabad Legislative Assy and High Court for the new state.

After the 2G loot at Centre I dont think there are any funds for new capital. It has to come from State revenues only. Besides it could be named Rajiv Gandhibad or Nagar in honor of the 2G decision.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 30 Jul 2013 23:13

17 Lok sabha seats in Telangana while 25 Loksabha sets in rest of the Andhra Pradesh. Total seats before in Andhra were 42.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 30 Jul 2013 23:20

SaiK wrote:UT?

My fear is that 10 years is too long. They may ask newAP to have Ongle and T to have Warangal.

I have a fear that INC may have succumbed to the Industy's request of excluding HYD from Telangana. In addition, law enforcement and other defense establishments also had expressed apprehensions.

KCR is right in asking for clarification. Livemint's description is bothersome.

Just about few weeks ago, AP governemnt added 23 more villages to Hyd admin from surrounding reasons.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 30 Jul 2013 23:27

SBajwa wrote:17 Lok sabha seats in Telangana while 25 Loksabha sets in rest of the Andhra Pradesh. Total seats before in Andhra were 42.

Telangana is still larger than many small states. AP is still equal to states like Gujarat (two Lions are from here) and Rajasthan. Slightly less than Karnataka (28 seats). The new AP will be very rich state. (all the property value losses rhetoric is going to be junk in no time).

member_27444 · Post by **member_27444** » 30 Jul 2013 23:31

The title of thread needs to be bifurcated, its no more AP its TP+AP
Telugus are unique the only people speaking same language but different states, like US and Britain?

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 30 Jul 2013 23:33

Amyrao wrote:The title of thread needs to be bifurcated, its no more AP its TP+AP
Telugus are unique the only people speaking same language but different states, like US and Britain?

Kya bakwaas. US and Britain are two countries.

AP and T are two Telugu speaking states just like UP, Rajathan, MP are Hindi speaking states.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 30 Jul 2013 23:37

Telugus are unique the only people speaking same language but different states, like US and Britain?

King George of Britain use to Rule USA that people from USA kick them out.

member_27444 · Post by **member_27444** » 30 Jul 2013 23:44

I feel Britain is 51 state of US no?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Jul 2013 23:50

Status of Hyd can is being kicked to ten years later.

If KCR merges without clarification then he is fooled again.

I would rather have Telangana have Hyd than it become UT for Center to loot or rule.

Right now INC took a decision and got the others to go along. It is possible to make it UT again unilaterally ten years down the road and the others will go along.

Most likely it will be Priyanka's children running the show then.

---
Amy Rao lets stick to topic.

Thanks,
ramana

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Jul 2013 23:57

IBN Spin on the situation:

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/telangana-se ... 2-127.html

Looking back both Andhra and Telangana lost out in the 1956 merger in terms of geography.

James B · Post by **James B** » 30 Jul 2013 23:58

If one goes by population density, it is UP, Bihar & WB which are to be divided further into small states.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 31 Jul 2013 00:28

Lilo wrote:Frankly iam flabbergasted with this property discussion in the AP splitting thread. Forgive me if is sound bitter or harsh but i see this obsessive speculation on land as nothing but the bane of the telugus . From Satyam to CBN .

Just as an example does anyone remember CBN , with his endless wail on the land allotments to Obulapuram project - AFAIK he harped on this nonissue for 2 years in the assembly and outside while forgetting real issues like farm distress, lack of electricity , jobs or general stench of corruption prevalent in the congress regime from road laying to dam construction. Lost 50+ by-elections in the bargain. The actually important question of AP state division was left to the likes of realtors like Lagadapati etc on one side and KCR and his goons (the goto land settlement mafia in Hyd since long) and their expletive ridden public slangmatches. When future generations pullback and analyse this sequence leading to AP state division they will see nothing but this ugly fight between two sets of realtors in public.

Now what good is it if people start with the same mindset in rest of Andhra ?

We should atleast now learn from TN,Maha etc, with their focus on textile sectors, auto industry, education sector strongly linked to the needs of the industries operating in the state, along with the ITES and engineering services (SMEs) .

In contrast AP made some early gains in ITES in the beginning of the decade and instead of reinvesting the gains people reverted to the old addiction of land speculation. Go to any gettogether the discussion inevitably veered towards plots, current estimation of plot value based on speculative guesses of current cost per square yard, new projects coming up and how they effect the land prices,group deals,combo deals... and what not. Hopefully with the division of Andhra such useless streaks in our character will be curtailed and money will be invested in real greenfield industry projects utilizing the port connectivity and energy linkages.

In another story the leeches in coaching industry too (Chaitanya-Narayana ,TIME etc) are currently struggling to remain relevant with the changed weightage (one really have to give credit to kapilsibal for stopping this coaching industry frenzy by changing weightages in JEE and CAT) ,couple this with the empty and teacher-less engineering colleges - expose AP education sector to be nothing but a hollow shell lacking pith.

The only industries now left in AP in which it has a lead compared to other states inspite of 9 years of Telangana speculation is the Pharma industry (in education aspect, the recently mushroomed pharma colleges are well integrated to pharma clusters in Hyderabad - and are good pointer to how education should organically grow by cartering to the needs of the industry in the region) and the Agri biz (coming up in costa and interior pockets).

We're not talking about corruption money and how government money is looted. Telugus may be more corrupt than Tamils and Maharastrians in that case. That issue is different.

Investment Money (whether from government, banks, people) will be essence for new state. Some points.

* At people level, there have been huge investments (few thousands to crores) by every day people into Hyderabad, to move the money to their new places and new investments will have huge implications. If a guy sold property and went to Hyderabad and invested there and that guy has to return now, he can't afford same property he sold.

* If Center doesn't give money, where is the money going to come from for employment growth. Do you think big companies from Hyderabad will shift to Vijayawada? Government has to do more to get same vigor of investments it used to get for Hyderabad.

* Bank money, esp from private investment banks, will be expensive than before as most are new ventures only. This has to be included in money calculations as recovery of investments may be decades now in new state.

* How much money new state can suck from Hyderabad during sharing time is also issue now. Only things will come out now as to how much real revenues are there to share.

Bade · Post by **Bade** » 31 Jul 2013 01:00

The irony is the new state (since name change) gets to keep Hyderabad for itself most likely in the long run, whereas the remnants of the old state will need to build up Vizag to the level of Hyderabad.

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 31 Jul 2013 01:09

I think the Telangana decision opens up a great opportunity for CBN in New Andhra for the 2014 elections. He can go around campaigning that if you guys had voted for TDP and not for Congress in the last elections, this bifurcation would not have happened. He can lay a guilt trip on people and turn them against both Congress and YSRC.

member_27444 · Post by **member_27444** » 31 Jul 2013 01:14

Lilo is spot on
Scheeming and back stabbing is the bane of Inidan polictics, be it Shatru, LK, SG, KSR CBN, Pawar, Mulayam, Chiddu.....
Its quite repelling to even read Indian news other than here and there a creative blurb...

Soon the map will resemble the British Raj

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 31 Jul 2013 01:16

I tend to agree with Ramanaji and Muppala garu on Hyd.

If Hyd remains as combined capital for too long, there is a fair chance that this monster can morph into a UT demand at the end of 10 years, because the mercantile interests are too strong for either or both states to control. There are too many non-telugu interests in Hyderabad.

This is the bread I am worried will be stolen by the monkey from the two quarreling cats. This the Mohini I hope mandhara puts in kaikeyi's ears for congress bhasmasura.

member_27444 · Post by **member_27444** » 31 Jul 2013 01:31

yes MCA to M Pharm M Clinical studies is the new wave

James B · Post by **James B** » 31 Jul 2013 01:52

Kakkaji wrote:I think the Telangana decision opens up a great opportunity for CBN in New Andhra for the 2014 elections. He can go around campaigning that if you guys had voted for TDP and not for Congress in the last elections, this bifurcation would not have happened. He can lay a guilt trip on people and turn them against both Congress and YSRC.

He can do that provided he makes his stance clear. He has been so far neither here nor there on Telangana issue (remember he had alliance with TRS previosuly). If he has to win seemandhra he has to make his stance on T-state clear that he was against bifurcation, otherwise people will not vote him with majority.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 31 Jul 2013 01:57

slowly the depth of the deed are being talked about

TOI
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 495459.cms

NEW DELHI: The Congress leadership bit the Telangana bullet on Tuesday. It decided to bifurcate Andhra Pradesh to create a separate state of Telangana — a move that will be a loss to the politically muscular state but will be a gain for the Congress as it's expected to revive the party's fortunes in the state ahead of the 2014 Lok Sabha election.

As reported by TOI on July 29, Hyderabad will remain the common capital of the splintered states for 10 years — a balancing act that recognizes Telangana's claim on the city but seeks to soften the blow to the opponents who were also concerned about the investments of coastal Andhra businesses in the capital. The Centre will help AP build a new capital.

There are indications that a mechanism will be created to vest the governor with oversight of law and order in the city: an arrangement that falls short of turning the city into a Union Territory but reassures those worried about a sudden change in its character.

The call on whether to include two districts of Rayalseema region, Ananthpur and Kurnool, will be taken later. The Congress leadership favours the idea but is wary of committing itself before fully assessing the fallout.

The desire to do well in the Telangana region appears to be the main driver behind Tuesday's decision. While announcing the CWC's decision, Congress general secretary Digvijay Singh triggered speculation of a merger of TRS with the Congress. Singh recalled TRS chief K Chandrashekhar Rao's declaration that he would merge his party with the Congress if the latter created Telangana.

Pieces of the puzzle were fast falling in place when TRS chief Chandrashekhar Rao said that he was a man of his word.

Political circles estimate that the Congress calculation is to sweep the Telangana region, which has 17 Lok Sabha seats, in alliance with the TRS. The numbers of Lok Sabha seats which the party can hope to win will swell to 21 if the districts of Ananthpur and Kurnool are clubbed with Telangana: a huge improvement for the party which had appeared to be a washout in the state.

Giving its nod to the division of AP after consultations with UPA partners, the CWC said that the Centre should take steps to form a separate state of Telangana. It further said that the Centre should institute a mechanism "to address the concerns of Andhra and Rayalseema on sharing of river waters, power and security of citizens". The CWC also said that the Polavaram Irrigation Project should be declared a national project.

The Congress is expected to act expeditiously in order to reap the goodwill in the Telangana region. There are indications that the Union Cabinet may decide on Thursday to request the President to ask the Andhra Pradesh legislature to adopt a resolution spelling out where it stands on the issue of bifurcation.

The resolution of the state assembly will not be binding. Under the Constitution, the power to create new states and alter the boundaries of existing ones rests solely with Parliament. With the Congress firm on the creation of Telangana, the fate of the resolution may have little bearing on the outcome.

The Congress's anxiety to clinch the issue swiftly was evident from the way AICC general secretaries Digvijay Singh and Ajay Maken sought to showcase steps taken by their party for the creation of Telangana. These included, the announcement of December 9, 2009, something which the party had virtually dumped in the face of resentment from the anti-Telangana camp.

Although Congress leaders concede that the breakaway faction led by Jagan Mohan will remain the dominant formation in coastal and Rayalseema regions, they are banking on his professed desire to keep a distance from the BJP as well as legal troubles to hope that the Reddy Jr will not be averse to doing business post-poll.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 31 Jul 2013 02:02

ShyamSP wrote:
We're not talking about corruption money and how government money is looted. Telugus may be more corrupt than Tamils and Maharastrians in that case. That issue is different.

Investment Money (whether from government, banks, people) will be essence for new state. Some points.

* At people level, there have been huge investments (few thousands to crores) by every day people into Hyderabad, to move the money to their new places and new investments will have huge implications. If a guy sold property and went to Hyderabad and invested there and that guy has to return now, he can't afford same property he sold.

* If Center doesn't give money, where is the money going to come from for employment growth. Do you think big companies from Hyderabad will shift to Vijayawada? Government has to do more to get same vigor of investments it used to get for Hyderabad.

* Bank money, esp from private investment banks, will be expensive than before as most are new ventures only. This has to be included in money calculations as recovery of investments may be decades now in new state.

* How much money new state can suck from Hyderabad during sharing time is also issue now. Only things will come out now as to how much real revenues are there to share.

SSP ji,
my views are,
>The money invested in Hyd realestate beyond the price levels of 2004-2007 is virtually vaporware in 2013 terms.
>So even if people want to liquidate their investments it is a given that they have to take on huge losses , because Hyd is worth only when it was the focus of the investments from an united AP. Current Hyd with just Telangana as base cannot demand the pricelevels of erst while Hyd in an United AP.
>So telangana elites who want to purchase the lands being liquidated by seemandhra's can only pay so much in comparison to the original purchase price.
>Ergo this real estate investment "boom" is actually a big bust as it turned out - with all players loosing the game - kinda like the nash equilibrium predicted state but with seemandhras loosing more .
>Now the question arises regarding the reinvestment of monies released from lossy liquidations of Hyd land by Seemandhra guys.
>They can again choose to gamble in real estate, this time in Seemandhra or some outside state based on speculations (of this project coming up or that project getting sanctioned by govt or what not)
> Or they can learn from their mistakes and start getting back to the basics - that land is just one factor of production and other factors required have to be brought together for production to actually happen. Else all investment sunk becomes vaporware.
>There is real potential in coastal AP to develop as a continuous agglomeration something akin to US eastern seaboard. Its not without reason that centers like masulipatnam grew up in ancient times.
>Even today lot of import export biz is still going on but on a very limited scale compared to potential.
>This has to be taken to the next level with actual value addition beginning to happen onshore.
>Kosta has been unfairly bracketed just as a agri bowl of south - its educated and literate manpower and its access to raw materials coal,ores etc from australia , indonesia and geographic position to carter to the whole southeast asian markets (as well as india- Chennai,Kolkata,Hyd etc) place it in a unique position to become a manufacturing hub.
>If iam the Govt of Seemandhra, atleast now ill take care that highly fertile agricultural land is not purchased for the sake of resale but for the sake of actual developmental activity. By enacting very high registration charges - passed on to some investment fund of the Municipal board of that area, this can be done.
>Forget haggling over lumpsums from central govt or revenues from Hyd(which will be in dumps for a while) and which will be swaha in no time by the politicos. Instead demand and get a Central Tax holiday for 15 years to large swathes of Investment zones on the coast. Also central govt must prioritise Rail and Port projects in Seemandhra (especially Rayalaseema). People dont remember when was the last time AP got some thing from the Railway budget now Seema should get the benefit of this past hold out. New rail lines , better ports - that should be expected.

This IMO is fair renumeration for the loss of Hyd.
Expect CBN to strike such a deal with NaMo post election for his support.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 31 Jul 2013 02:21

Lilo, Good thinking. And most likely as Center is bankrupt or on anemaic status, teh CST holiday might be alatable in lieu of giving any funds which they dont have.
BTW most polticial commentators are saying that INC basically wrote off Andhra Pradesh and hence decide to recoup Telangana. Although all the conditions and clauses (Hyd status ten yeas later, meantime quasi-UT status with Governor responsible for law and order!) they are attaching make it doubful.

Hence if INC comes to power at Center its very doubtful they will give any incentives to AP for development. They think it will be YSRC that will come to power and they can be coerced to cooperate along with psec media campaign will ensure that.

Meatime an article from Ind Exp on the property owners of Hyderabad.

What Andhra minus Hyderabad means

What Andhra minus Hyderabad means

The people of Telangana will count themselves winners after five-decade-long struggle, but many of their neighbours will be crestfallen. The reason is the eventual severance of Hyderabad from Andhra Pradesh. The capital is the jewel in the crown, an information technology hub and a city that hosts the vibrant Telugu film industry.
Politicians, industrialists and realtors from Andhra Pradesh's two other regions, and those in the film industry, are among those who will be disappointed. They have a lot at stake in and around Hyderabad, and their fear is that the Telangana government will seek to take their properties over or cancel the acquisitions. Many of the properties in Hyderabad are alleged to have been acquired dubiously, or at throwaway prices because of government largesse.

The list of those who own prime property and have invested hugely in Hyderabad includes Congress, TDP and YSR Congress MPs and MLAs, film stars, bankers, hoteliers, doctors, academicians and builders.

TDP chief N Chandrababu Naidu and his family own the Heritage Foods chain with many outlets and properties in Hyderabad. Y S Jagan Mohan Reddy owns property all over the city and its outskirts, including buildings and printing presses and studios of the Sakshi Telugu newspaper and channel. The Congress MP from Vijayawada, Lagadapati Rajagopal, owns huge plots in Hyderabad and on its fringes, including in Lanco Hills where he has a high-end housing project. He said recently he stands to lose a lot if Telangana is formed.

The owners of Narayana Group and Chaitanya Group have invested heavily in infrastructure and educational projects all over Hyderabad and other Telangana districts.

Film star-turned-union minsiter K Chiranjeevi and his family own a number of properties in and around Banjara Hills. Actor Akkineni Nagarjuna and his family own Annapurna Studios. Ramoji Film City belongs to Ramoji Rao, from Krishna.

The film industry is dominated by actors and directors from Coastal Andhra. The Telugu film industry produces the highest number of films in a regional language by any state.

G M Rao,chairman of the GMR Group that built the Rajiv Gandhi International Airport at Shamshabad, hails from Srikakulam. And Reddy Labs, Apollo Hospitals and Kamineni Hospitals are all owned by people from the two other regions.

From Coastal Andhra come the entrepreneurs, small businessmen, real estate agents, engineers and farmers, backed by the earnings from agriculture, and from Rayalaseema come the mining magnates. They have invested in the IT infrastructure.

Hyderabad also has over two dozen national institutes, including Sardar Vallabhbhai National Police Academy, National Institute of Nutrition, and National Institute of Rural Development.

"Telangana agitations have repeatedly attacked properties owned by non-Telangana people," says K S Prasad, who owns animation studios in Hyderabad. "Their leaders may deny any threat to non-Telangana people and their properties, but the situation may turn out to be scary."

Of the 4 lakh people working in IT in Hyderabad, over 60 per cent are from non-Telangana regions. "When the agitation started, many techies opted to work in places closer to their home districts rather than Hyderabad. The concern for the IT industry is whether the same good work and investment climate will continue in Hyderabad," an official with Software Technology Parks of India says.

"In the new state, Telangana's people will have all the opportunities that had so been far available to others," pledges Telangana Rashtra Samiti president K Chandrasekhara Rao.

THE DISTRIBUTION AFTER THE SPLIT

How Telangana compares with the rest of Andhra Pradesh, politically and economically

SIZE

1.14 lakh sq km, out of undivided Andhra Pradesh's 2.75 lakh sq km

3.44 cr population (undivided AP has 8.46 crore);
12.5% of Telangana's population is Muslim

10 districts (including Hyderabad), 13 in rest of Andhra Pradesh

FORWARD & BACKWARD

7.5 %/yr All 10 districts have grown at least that much for the past 12 years
5 of the 10 districts qualify for Backward Regions Grant Fund
52 Infant mortality ratio in Telangana;
AP average is 43 (2011)

Legislators

17 Lok Sabha MPs (12 Congress, 2

TDP, 2 TRS, 1 MIM); rest of AP has 25

119 MLAs, 15 are ministers (including Dy CM

C Damodar Rajanarasimha); rest of AP has 175; 295th member is nominated (Anglo-Indian)

MLAs partywise

party telangana rest of ap

Cong 51 95

TDP 37 42

17 TRS (Telangana), 17 YSR Cong (rest of AP), 16 vacant , rest others

RESOURCES

Coal: GSI estimates 22 bn tonnes reserves in Godavari Valley, 8% of India's total. Singareni Collieries Company Ltd has 8,791 mn tonnes

Minerals: Bauxite, chromite, precious stones, iron ore. 5 of the 10 districts have been classified by mines ministry among India's 61 high- or medium-mineral-potential districts

INFRASTRUCTURE

Airports: International, Hyderabad. Domestic, Nizamabad and Karimnagar, to be developed

Engg colleges: 350 (out of 780, undivided AP)

National Highways: 15% of AP's 4,537km

Rail network: 35 % of AP total

Companies: 60% of AP's registered companies

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 31 Jul 2013 02:24

Losing a big developed city like Hyd is not a joke! I don't see efforts to build one like or better than hyd.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 31 Jul 2013 02:29

In ten years you will see what will be done.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 31 Jul 2013 02:35

I will say again. Instead of dealing with one monster, they have created two monsters from a wealthy and cut-throat biz community. The richest state with all the resources needed for a modern economy still the size of Gujarat and a tad smaller than Karnataka. They will create at least two more Hyderabads and the politcal vengence is not going to die (this is not bad).

Short term feeling of someone manipulated us just like British and Nizam did to us in the past history will haunt for a while.

ramana garu, TOI article is all false stuff. Good pump up from INC supporters.

Bade · Post by **Bade** » 31 Jul 2013 02:36

That is why I said most big cities need to be made UTs. I know it will not fly. But central govt resources have mainly built them, or migrants from all over the country. That was the logic behind it. Dilli, Cal, Mumbai, Madras would not have become what they are solely based on local inputs. Now add Bangalore, Hyderabad, Pune and a few others too to the list.