
In Telangana as days progress and political realignment occurs, BJP and TDP will go as a coalition and will sweep HYD surroundings. The state is pregnant with new political allignments as the uncertainity is over.
Government has been inviting every one to come and invest in Hyderabad since at least 1970. It is like those evil chit funds, collect money from people and disappear.Lilo wrote: SSP ji,
my views are,
>The money invested in Hyd realestate beyond the price levels of 2004-2007 is virtually vaporware in 2013 terms.
>So even if people want to liquidate their investments it is a given that they have to take on huge losses , because Hyd is worth only when it was the focus of the investments from an united AP. Current Hyd with just Telangana as base cannot demand the pricelevels of erst while Hyd in an United AP.
I told in another discussion to not to pay Central taxes for next 50 years and use the tax funds for development. Hope leaders get that clue in bargaining packages.>Forget haggling over lumpsums from central govt or revenues from Hyd(which will be in dumps for a while) and which will be swaha in no time by the politicos. Instead demand and get a Central Tax holiday for 15 years to large swathes of Investment zones on the coast. Also central govt must prioritise Rail and Port projects in Seemandhra (especially Rayalaseema). People dont remember when was the last time AP got some thing from the Railway budget now Seema should get the benefit of this past hold out. New rail lines , better ports - that should be expected.
This IMO is fair renumeration for the loss of Hyd.
Expect CBN to strike such a deal with NaMo post election for his support.
Saik ji,SaiK wrote:Losing a big developed city like Hyd is not a joke! I don't see efforts to build one like or better than hyd.
Given the Tax/GDP of 10% GoI can use the $90-100B to focus on only national aspects of governance and leave the states to focus on other governance areas.Ahmedabad $49B
Bangalore $69B
Chennai $79B
Delhi $167B
Hyderabad $60B
Jaipur $24B
Kanpur $26B
Kolkata $104B
Lucknow $22B
Mumbai $254B
Pune $48B
Surat $36B
TOTAL $938B
It need not be the party, but the voting support groups.Atri wrote:YSRC!!! Why? what good will aligning with EJ's bring for BJP?
Bade wrote:That is why I said most big cities need to be made UTs. I know it will not fly. But central govt resources have mainly built them, or migrants from all over the country. That was the logic behind it. Dilli, Cal, Mumbai, Madras would not have become what they are solely based on local inputs. Now add Bangalore, Hyderabad, Pune and a few others too to the list.
What good did it do for AP for giving 39 to Congress ?VikasRaina wrote:So AP power also goes down in parliament. Instead we will see the 2 states fighting like Haryana and Punjab over resources and capital.
The leaves only UP to drive the whole country with its sheer number of seats and casteist/communal politics.
AP got the First Non-Dynasty Congress PM ever outside the Gangetic belt.Lilo wrote:What good did it do for AP for giving 39 to Congress ?VikasRaina wrote:So AP power also goes down in parliament. Instead we will see the 2 states fighting like Haryana and Punjab over resources and capital.
The leaves only UP to drive the whole country with its sheer number of seats and casteist/communal politics.
Atleast MuKa or JJ know how to extort the center for the support (always external) they give - which is why TN achieved such focused growth in key industries .
In contrast AP CMs (KKR , Rosaiah etc) always had to camp outside madam's house for weeks at a stretch to get a Darshan.
The factionalism in AP politics especially in state congress is legendary - YSR just made us believe that it was not there - but the truth was that it was always simmering below ready to explode.
TDP case it is reverse, if CBN continues with his tight lid current style every 10 years people like KCR will intermittently explode to change the equation.
not "commentary". look at my above post. talking about political scenario on both sides.Lilo wrote:^^
Devesh ji what good will commenting by any side on the other side achieve at this point ?
Both highway and rail networks are far smaller (when normalized) in telangANa than kottha AP. Lilo was proposing more rail in kothha AP. Au contraire, their development in T has to be taken up urgently if the center wants T's support.ramana wrote:Lilo, Good thinking. And most likely as Center is bankrupt or on anemaic status, teh CST holiday might be alatable in lieu of giving any funds which they dont have.
BTW most polticial commentators are saying that INC basically wrote off Andhra Pradesh and hence decide to recoup Telangana. Although all the conditions and clauses (Hyd status ten yeas later, meantime quasi-UT status with Governor responsible for law and order!) they are attaching make it doubful.
Hence if INC comes to power at Center its very doubtful they will give any incentives to AP for development. They think it will be YSRC that will come to power and they can be coerced to cooperate along with psec media campaign will ensure that.
Meatime an article from Ind Exp on the property owners of Hyderabad.
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National Highways: 15% of AP's 4,537km
Rail network: 35 % of AP total
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Because there's history here.... In the past T-hotheads have tried to physcially 'facilitate' Andhraite exodus from the city. Instead of using 'em razakar-lite tactics on the razakar-pasands in old city, they danced madness in new city for a brief while only... sheesh. talk about self-goials...Atri wrote:There was no such trouble and exodus when they made Chhattisgarh, jharkhand, uttarakhand et al... why should there be any trouble now?
that is pathetic!abhishek_sharma wrote:What Andhra minus Hyderabad means
"Telangana agitations have repeatedly attacked properties owned by non-Telangana people," says K S Prasad, who owns animation studios in Hyderabad. "Their leaders may deny any threat to non-Telangana people and their properties, but the situation may turn out to be scary."
With seed money from Hyderabad and Center and peoples' entrepreneurial mindset, Destination AP indeed!SaiK wrote:mupalla et al are making me excited about this.. now I know, I would not be retiring with no job in hand. I am sure, I will work my last days working like hell. more cities being planned, means more jobs.
destination AP!.. (eat & drink at yamar's place as guest)
btw, the truck mafia and interstate tax/octrois actually reduces commerce & increases bribery/corruption.. that should be removed as we move towards USI model.
Needless scare mongering. Who is this man anyways? Why is he trying to rile up people and play with sentiments?SaiK wrote:that is pathetic!abhishek_sharma wrote:What Andhra minus Hyderabad means
"Telangana agitations have repeatedly attacked properties owned by non-Telangana people," says K S Prasad, who owns animation studios in Hyderabad. "Their leaders may deny any threat to non-Telangana people and their properties, but the situation may turn out to be scary."
There are so many timings that needs to be calculated. The UPA has to do this very swiftly and with super speed and also go for an early election. Otherwise all that they are planning cannot happen.devesh wrote:YSRC will not sweep Andhra. TDP's recent performance in Andhra looks pretty good. I would say they might end up getting the most seats, but still not majority, and hence not able to form govt.
in Telangana, all depends on when TRS merges with INC. If KCR and INC are smart, then they will contest together (seat-sharing), and merge after elections. Just like they did with Chiranjeevi. together, INC and TRS will probably sweep Telangana with heavy margins in every district. I would be really surprised if they didn't.
but the above scenario doesn't bother me. TRS should merge. as long as TRS remains, there is chance that Telangana politics will transform into the same kind as AP's. INC vs Regional-party. so, it's good that TRS/KCR are thinking of merging with Congress.
My comments on your prediction.RamaY wrote: So I think for next 10 years I predict -
1/ Hitech industry, jobs and talent will remain in Hyderabad and might settle there forever.
2/ civil, electrical and infra related jobs, talent and basic traders will move back to Andhra side as soon as the new capital city is finalized.
3/ higher education sector will stay back in Hyderabad (10 yrs is at least 5 generations of higher education - 5 batches)
4/ high chance that professors and teachers will move to Andhra (as soon as new opportunities come)
5/ Telangana people will enter only entry/mid level jobs in hyderabad (new jobs) high-end jobs will remain same.
6/ as rural Andhra population gets into entry/mid level industry jobs (civil and infra projects), the Agri-sector becomes heavily mechanized.
7/ after initial jubilation, there will be more and more Andhra people buying Agri land in Telangana.
After 10 years, hyderabad will be at least double the economy it is (7% growth for 10 years)
On the other hand Andhra side will grow at least 8-10% doubling its economy in next 8-9 years.