Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 25 Jan 2014 01:17

jamwal wrote:
jagga wrote:Ok, this is what I heard from Delhiwalas.
Lot of anger against the Africans (Nigerians) in many localities. Reason, because of the criminal activities some Africans are involved in. Overstaying the visa is rampant, but people are not one bit bothered about that. The biggest blame goes to the police, for the deterioration of relation between the indian and african communities. People do complaint to police about the criminal activities, but police never takes the action. Police may be hand in hand with the criminals.

People have accepted the reality/fact that Africans will be here permanently. Many of them have started there businesses and doing jobs, they are not here for temporary stay. And, there is nothing wrong in that.

People "DO BELIEVE" that its mostly "NIGERIANS", who are involved in criminal activities. They "DO NOT" paint all African nationals with the same brush.

Personally, We have given our property on rent in delhi to many foreigner's (both africans and Goras, mostly NGO types) in the past, and have never faced any problems. Always have had positive relations with them.
Talking about generalisations, most Dilli wallas (and most Indians) are a bunch of racist a$$holes themselves. North-eastern Indians and African are prostitutes and drug smugglers for them. Whites are "easy". UP Bihar wallhas are uncouth bhaiyas. South Indians are all Madrasis and so on. Based upon my interactions with native Dilli-NCR population, I'd rather not put much trust in to what delusions these people have for anyone.

To be more specific the punjabi (even more specific punjabi hindu) Dilli-NCR population, they think of the rest of india as some africa when all they do is grow fat eating the taxpayer money that flows in from the rest of India.

About 5-6 years back when moi was going out with a Dilli based punjabi girl, her whole thought process was as if Dilli was india and rest of india was like some place she would rather not even visit. I think this attitude is quiet prevalent among the NAC jholawalas and some of the new breed congress politicians.

nawabs · Post by **nawabs** » 25 Jan 2014 01:57

This Daily Pioneer report is being quoted a lot:

http://www.dailypioneer.com/todays-news ... ement.html

A 25-year-old African national surrendered at a police station on Tuesday night and confessed to her involvement in sex racket along with her three friends in Delhi. However, she expressed desire to return to her country admitting that they were staying in India illegally. Acting on her statement, police raided Naam Colony in Mehrauli area on Wednesday night. Three women have been detained for questioning.

Police sources said that the African woman was scared so much after the raid by Somnath Bharti that she rather decided to surrender to police.

Is this how things are going to be dealt on from now on?

disha · Post by **disha** » 25 Jan 2014 02:00

muraliravi wrote:... I wonder what jj would ask for as her pound of flesh if she wins 30:35 seats and negotiates with namo.

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It will be great to see the Tridevis Maya, Mamta and Jaya drinking chai with the Queen Bee Sonia. That will be the fotu of the ages.

Jokes apart.,

1. Why would Maya enter into any arrangement with Congress? Congress is finished in UP and why would Maya lend further oxygen to CongI - to pump up Sapa? Maya would rather remain independent and gain the maximum possible seat to play a king maker post-poll.

2. Jaya and Mamta are both very astute CMs. They will support anybody in center who will support their state and both have anti-pathy towards Queen Bee. Further post-Jaya., AIADMK's votes are transferable to BJP and post Mamta., Mamta's to INC.

3. RJD is finished in Bihar. Bihar is looking to get out of the BiMaRU status (now it is only BARU., MP is out of BiMaRU) - the post mandal yadav politics is at its fag end. Too bad, NiKu could have been the Raja of Bihar, but he created much bad blood and is a lost cause. Point is INC+RJD will not yield much.

The goal for BJP is to increase its seat share in UP+Bihar. They should go for atleast 2/3rds put together. Let CongIs worry about Jod/Tod - from my reading of the numbers., the Jod-tod era is going to not be a factor as long as the general elections are presidential (NaMo over BJP, NaMo vs RaGa, NaMo vs Kejri).

disha · Post by **disha** » 25 Jan 2014 02:08

archan wrote:ABP Bihar opinion poll live on TV:
BJP 24
Cont 2
NikU 6
Lallu 5
Topiwala 0
Others 3

Clear majority predicted.

CongI(s) [typo as Cont] getting 2 in Bihar is surprising. No BSP? And Topiwalla is AAP I guess.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 25 Jan 2014 02:15

nawabs wrote:This Daily Pioneer report is being quoted a lot:

http://www.dailypioneer.com/todays-news ... ement.html

A 25-year-old African national surrendered at a police station on Tuesday night and confessed to her involvement in sex racket along with her three friends in Delhi. However, she expressed desire to return to her country admitting that they were staying in India illegally. Acting on her statement, police raided Naam Colony in Mehrauli area on Wednesday night. Three women have been detained for questioning.

Police sources said that the African woman was scared so much after the raid by Somnath Bharti that she rather decided to surrender to police.
Is this how things are going to be dealt on from now on?

BJP should up the ante and say that Delhi's problem is not the nigerians but the bangladeshsis.

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 25 Jan 2014 03:07

A 25-year-old African national surrendered at a police station on Tuesday night and confessed to her involvement in sex racket along with her three friends in Delhi. However, she expressed desire to return to her country admitting that they were staying in India illegally. Acting on her statement, police raided Naam Colony in Mehrauli area on Wednesday night. Three women have been detained for questioning.

Police sources said that the African woman was scared so much after the raid by Somnath Bharti that she rather decided to surrender to police.

Why would she surrender if she is planning to return to her country? She can as well just leave.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 25 Jan 2014 03:29

Gus wrote:azhagiri takes a dig at vijaykant and gets 'temporary suspension' from oldman. methinks it is drama to get dmdk to respond.

It would be a big loss of face for Karunanidhi, if Vijaykant still chooses to go with BJP.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 25 Jan 2014 04:46

nageshks wrote:
Gus saar,
Subbu Swami was claiming that there are 3 lakh Gujaratis in Madurai (Lok Sabha constituency) and BJP can win Madurai. Is this true?

please drop the saar..

the saurashtra community in madurai is a close knit one (have couple of my best friends from there) - and it is quite likely for them vote en masse to modi.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Jan 2014 05:17

Ashok Sarraff wrote: "Jode" means shoes in Marathi.

nageshks wrote:
Same in Kannada.

Same in Telugu.

Jodu(singular) jodlu (prural) for shoe/chappal
maejodlu (socks)

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 25 Jan 2014 05:38

Oh so that's where the Tamil swear of "jode-taala adikkanum" comes from...

nawabs · Post by **nawabs** » 25 Jan 2014 08:33

hanumadu wrote:
A 25-year-old African national surrendered at a police station on Tuesday night and confessed to her involvement in sex racket along with her three friends in Delhi. However, she expressed desire to return to her country admitting that they were staying in India illegally. Acting on her statement, police raided Naam Colony in Mehrauli area on Wednesday night. Three women have been detained for questioning.

Police sources said that the African woman was scared so much after the raid by Somnath Bharti that she rather decided to surrender to police.
Why would she surrender if she is planning to return to her country? She can as well just leave.

Visa must have expired.

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 25 Jan 2014 08:41

^^Why would any body look at her visa if she is leaving the country?

nawabs · Post by **nawabs** » 25 Jan 2014 09:01

^^^

Police sources said that the African woman was scared so much after the raid by Somnath Bharti that she rather decided to surrender to police.

Must not be thinking straight.

archan · Post by **archan** » 25 Jan 2014 09:52

They should have put dots above the Ae ki maatra to make it a nasal JodeN instead of Jode. As it stands, it's incorrect.

niran · Post by **niran** » 25 Jan 2014 10:08

jamwal wrote: Talking about generalisations, most Dilli wallas (and most Indians) are a bunch of racist a$$holes themselves. North-eastern Indians and African are prostitutes and drug smugglers for them. Whites are "easy". UP Bihar wallhas are uncouth bhaiyas. South Indians are all Madrasis and so on. Based upon my interactions with native Dilli-NCR population, I'd rather not put much trust in to what delusions these people have for anyone.

you forgot to add "snobish full of self importance" yeah, added together it defines pakese, but wat to do? dilli billies are that way onree.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 25 Jan 2014 11:04

niran wrote:you forgot to add "snobish full of self importance" yeah, added together it defines pakese, but wat to do? dilli billies are that way onree.

Actually what I am surprised by is that the Delhi vote signifies the exact opposite. A vote for AAP is a vote against snob value of themselves, of their city and of the country....it will pull down the image of Delhi for sure.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 25 Jan 2014 12:53

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If Anil Ambani doesn't act, I will self-immolate outside his house: Sanjay Nirupam

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 25 Jan 2014 14:42

What the sanjay nirupam kinda dolts fail to understand is that in this climate, asking for lower power tariff is == asking for lower power supply. only...

tis said that after kejri babu brought down tariffs in dilli by fiat, large areas have been reeling under power cuts onlee...

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 25 Jan 2014 14:54

Can Anil Ambani do us a favor and not lower the power tarriff. Let this bluff be called by someone.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 25 Jan 2014 15:36

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harbans · Post by **harbans** » 25 Jan 2014 16:46

These surveys are happening from August. Can anyone graph the steady increase. It's about 10-15 seats every month and steady rise. At some point the rate of rise will come down. To keep rise steady or boost the rate of rise Modi needs to unveil new vision paths in new bastions, Kerala, TN, North East, Orissa etc. Must fire it up. If he does so BJP might cross 300 plus else will stick around 250. Need NM for 10 years and a 300 plus figure means staying power for a decade and more.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 25 Jan 2014 16:58

harbans wrote:These surveys are happening from August. Can anyone graph the steady increase. It's about 10-15 seats every month and steady rise. At some point the rate of rise will come down. To keep rise steady or boost the rate of rise Modi needs to unveil new vision paths in new bastions, Kerala, TN, North East, Orissa etc. Must fire it up. If he does so BJP might cross 300 plus else will stick around 250. Need NM for 10 years and a 300 plus figure means staying power for a decade and more.

20-25 yrs if he keeps good health and lives. He hasn't campaigned that much in the east and south + assam, AuP.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 25 Jan 2014 17:11

Cong suspends MP state secy over comments on Digvijaya

Newly appointed Madhya Pradesh Congress President Arun Yadav today suspended State Secretary Jagdish Yadav for allegedly calling senior leader Digvijaya Singh "inauspicious" and stating that the party cannot be saved until he is out.

Jagdish is said to have made the controversial comment at the first meeting of the State Congress Working Committee here yesterday after Arun took over the reins.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 25 Jan 2014 17:20

Word is that in Muzaffarnagar, Jats have told Muslims that they come back to their villages, to their properties, on three conditions : no beard, no azaan and no namaz. FWIW.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 25 Jan 2014 17:50

Chandragupta wrote:Word is that in Muzaffarnagar, Jats have told Muslims that they come back to their villages, to their properties, on three conditions : no beard, no azaan and no namaz. FWIW.

"No Namaz" !!!

What about "no skull caps"?

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 25 Jan 2014 18:06

VikasRaina wrote:Can Anil Ambani do us a favor and not lower the power tarriff. Let this bluff be called by someone.

That is what they are doing. HC moved for getting CAG audit out of the way.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 25 Jan 2014 18:12

Chandragupta wrote:Word is that in Muzaffarnagar, Jats have told Muslims that they come back to their villages, to their properties, on three conditions : no beard, no azaan and no namaz. FWIW.

They should have added, only tilak for men and sindhoor for women, just convert them.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 25 Jan 2014 18:17

Should also include default conditions explicitly : no guns and no assault rifles, no infiltrators, no love jihad, no mob rule, no law and order issues, and rest that led to riots in the first place. Once you give an inch, how is anyone going to stop law and order problem and riots later?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 25 Jan 2014 18:53

First time since 1999 BJP leading in rural areas over Congress.Big takeaway from CSDS national tracker

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 25 Jan 2014 19:01

Firstpost ‏@firstpostin 26m

Pranab Mukherjee: Who wins the coming elections is less important, what is important that he should be committed to growth of country.
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CNN-IBN News ‏@ibnlive 11m

RT @IBNLiveRealtime Fructured government after polls will be catastrophic: President
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Is Pronob da calling on the citizens of our great republic to give the leading party and candidate a decisive mandate?

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Jan 2014 19:30

pankajs wrote:Firstpost ‏@firstpostin 26m

Pranab Mukherjee: Who wins the coming elections is less important, what is important that he should be committed to growth of country.
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CNN-IBN News ‏@ibnlive 11m

RT @IBNLiveRealtime Fructured government after polls will be catastrophic: President
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Is Pronob da calling on the citizens of our great republic to give the leading party and candidate a decisive mandate?

I thinks so. He has given an extension to Telangana discussion in Assembly by a week. If he extends it by another two weeks then there is no state formation in this term. He seems to look like not interested in helping the dynasty anymore.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 25 Jan 2014 20:08

Extension is only up to 30 Jan 2014. Thereafter , Pranab da will consent to the Bill for presentation in Parliament. Along with vote on account this bill will also be passed and enacted before announcement of General Election on 27/28th Feb ( most likely) .

Anyway , by all indications, notification will come into effect only after New Govt is formed. Govt will have to notify a date for the purpose and also announce division of assests and liabilities and transfer of Govt servants , the process could take about two years or so.

Congis are going to be wiped out in Seemandhra and may be some seats in Telangana unless TRS plays it right. If BJP can spoil it for Congis well and good. They are not gaining much in AP either way, notwithstanding NaMo speeches.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Jan 2014 20:12

chaanakya wrote:Extension is only up to 30 Jan 2014. Thereafter , Pranab da will consent to the Bill for presentation in Parliament. Along with vote on account this bill will also be passed and enacted before announcement of General Election on 27/28th Feb ( most likely) .

why do they need even this one week extension? What if he give two more weeks? AP CM is requesting a three week extension.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 25 Jan 2014 20:21

Yeah , this extension was in response to that request only. If congis want telangana desperately then that is the only feasible timeline.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Jan 2014 20:32

chaanakya wrote:Yeah , this extension was in response to that request only. If congis want telangana desperately then that is the only feasible timeline.

Though technically feasible, it will be uphill task form INC in this term. All this for what? 5 extra seats in Telangana which is also doubtful. It strongly think the game goes to next term.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 25 Jan 2014 21:50

The President is right, Govt isn't a charity shop but a mechanism to help the citizens: Yoginder Yadav (AAP)
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I'm sure President observes everything that is going on in our country, the corruption and violence: Yoginder Yadav

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 25 Jan 2014 21:51

ABP Nielson has not yet put out the vote shares nor was it shown on their channel except for UP/Bihar, here are the seats.

Kerala:
Left 11 Cong+9

AP:
YSRC 22 Cong 4 TRS 9 TDP 5 MIM 1 Others 1

KA
Cong 10 BJP 15 JDS 3

TN
ADMK 24 DMK 11 BJP 1 Cong 1 Rest 2

WB
TMC 26 CPM 10 Cong 2 CPI 1 RSP 1 Others 2

Haryana
BJP 6 HJC 1 INLD 1 AAP 1

Rajasthan
BJP 20 Cong 5

Gujarat
BJP 19 Cong 7

Maharashtra
BJP 19 SS 8 Cong 8 NCP 8 MNS 3 RPI 1 AAP 1

Madhya Pradesh
BJP 24 Cong 4 BSP 1

Chhattisgarh
BJP 10 Cong 1

J&K
BJP 1 Cong 1 NC 2 PDP 1 Ladakh IND 1

Punjab
BJP 4 SAD 5 Cong 4

HP
BJP 4 Cong 0

Uttaranchal
BJP 5 Cong 0

Delhi
AAP 6 BJP 1

Jharkhand
BJP 12 Cong 0 Other 2

Orissa
BJD 14 BJP 4 Cong 3

Assam
Cong 9 BJP 1 AGP 2 AUDF 2

Arunachal
BJP 1 Cong 1

Nagaland
NPF 1

Mizoram: Cong 1; Meghalaya: Cong 1, Others 1; Manipur: CPM 1, Others 1

Bihar
BJP: 24 Cong: 2 JDU: 6 RJD 5 LJP 1 Others 2

Uttar Pradesh
BJP 35, BSP 15, SP 14, Cong+RLD 12, AAP 2, Others 2

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 25 Jan 2014 22:29

harbans wrote:These surveys are happening from August. Can anyone graph the steady increase. It's about 10-15 seats every month and steady rise. At some point the rate of rise will come down. To keep rise steady or boost the rate of rise Modi needs to unveil new vision paths in new bastions, Kerala, TN, North East, Orissa etc. Must fire it up. If he does so BJP might cross 300 plus else will stick around 250. Need NM for 10 years and a 300 plus figure means staying power for a decade and more.

I like the positive expectations/vibes onlee.

Gone are the days, when BRFites were lungi shivering with calculations like - if BJP wins 150-180 seats, then Advani could become PM; if BJP wins 180-200 seats then Modi has the chance. Now we are talking about BJP winning 200-225 seats. Some uber positive people are wondering if 250 is possible. I won't be surprised post elections NDA gets 300+ seats. Jai ho onlee.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 25 Jan 2014 22:37

Modi a Leader of Backward Class, Says Amit Shah

Attempting an image makeover, BJP general secretary and in-charge of UP Amit Shah projected Narendra Modi as a leader of backward class today and said construction of Ram temple was never an election issue.

"Construction of Ram temple in Ayodhya was not included in the election issue of the party," he said in Deoria.

Shah said construction of the temple was "aspiration" of the party and its workers, but they do not consider it to be an election issue.

Meanwhile in Ballia, while addressing party workers, he said that Modi belonged to backward caste and if he becomes prime minister of the country it would be a matter of pride for the section.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 26 Jan 2014 01:27

Chandragupta wrote:Word is that in Muzaffarnagar, Jats have told Muslims that they come back to their villages, to their properties, on three conditions : no beard, no azaan and no namaz. FWIW.

Azaan on loudspeaker should be banned. Let the mullahs use their lungs like they always did. Do they want to wake the faithful in the next district also? But hopefully the rest is not true.