Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 14 Feb 2014 12:24

SS should be External Affairs Minister. HM should either be with NaMo or Amit Shah, no third person. Lot of clean up needs to be done in desh.

Added later: Wow, this feels like Fantasy Football all over again.

LakshO · Post by **LakshO** » 14 Feb 2014 12:35

Singha wrote: Khanduri sir would be best appointed as roads & power minister if there is such a post. road construction has fallen into a hole. power is languishing due to lack of coal and gas. imo oil & petrol should remain with Namo himself. Amit shah can take home perhaps...that will automatically lead to self-exile of a lot of fair weather birds without even doing anything.

Arun shourie should also be given a special charge as "minister for truth and reconciliation in the arts" to cleanse all the congi funded and staffed cultural foundations , clean up history books, control the MSM professional dissidents and so on.

^^+1.

Initially, HRD was assigned to Arun Shourie but if India needs to have 8+% growth, power ministry needs to be in excellent hands, and the results will be seen only after 3-4 years. So, I felt Arun Shourie was the best person amongst the lot. But, we can swap Arun Shourie @ Power with Brig. Khanduri @ HRD. Should work out fine

Core ministries (non-negotiable; these will stay in-house with BJP)
Prime minister: Narendra Modi
Defence: Narendra Modi
Finance: Yashwant Sinha
Home: Sushma Swaraj
Foreign: Arun Jaitley

Other ministries (can be shared with allies as sops for coalition govt)
Railways: Sushil Kumar Modi
HRD: Arun Shourie
Power: Brig. Khanduri (Retd)
Agriculture: Ravi Shankar Prasad
Commerce: Piyush Goel
Telecom & IT: Rajiv Prasad Rudy
Law: Ram Jethmalani
Oil/Petroleum: Subramaniam Swamy (perfect antidote for the over bearing influence of RIL in Delhi)
Civil aviation: ??
I&B: Smriti Irani
Environment: Meenakshi Lekhi
Sports & Youth: Col. RVS Rathore (Retd)

NaMo can't be entrusted with PMship, defence, MHA, Oil/petrol. IMHO, NaMo must handle defence as I feel that it needs a major push for indigenization. If NaMo must handle MHA/Oil, any good candidates to handle defence?

negi · Post by **negi** » 14 Feb 2014 12:36

Singha wrote:per Vinaji, JR is one of the more capable types in the durbari's roster. so far has kept out of any major overt controversy.

Vina sir to Rahul ke bare mein bhi achcha bole the ; ab Rahul bola to Vina ji nahin bolte

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 14 Feb 2014 13:36

SS should be minister of parliamentary affairs. Home should be with AS. We need a more bold face than YS in finance. Gen Singh can be DM.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Feb 2014 14:24

and defence need not be with namo. just keep PM and oil n gas which is a strategic portfolio with deep links to geopolitical situation. our economy is dependent on import fossil fuel. he can take a special interest in defence PROJECTS and ACQUISITIONS but be free of day to day decision making.

rest can be outsourced to capable people.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 14 Feb 2014 14:44

Let elections come, then think about these, right now its looks UPA-3 or Third front supported by INC. Hope the BJP does not mess up with Telegnana and goes into INC LAP

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 14 Feb 2014 14:54

Crossposted.
Wishlist for Namo Bharati

How does this "Yindoo Research" thing work in the Bhesterns schools of p0rn0graphy? I would think that one can't get anything published merely by reading the widely available big texts like the Vedas and Srimad Bhagavat Gita. So researchers will naturally will have to read original stuff and therefore will have to come to India to access arcane stuff like commentaries by previous Indian scholars etc or as in the case or Sri Ramakrishna talk to the RKM people. It is here that I would like to propose that we create a law that makes it incumbent for all researcher of these texts to sign a contract with the organization/family that has these research material. The contract will make it incumbent on the researcher to give an affidavit that the research is for his own purposes and he or she will supply a copy of his research to the institution. The law will also make it dutybound to publish the final article that the research is being used by while in India itself. Final approval of the publication can only be given by the head of the institution. If research is scandalous, head of institution will be duty bound under the new law to file FIR with police under 295A, 153 of IPC against researcher.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 14 Feb 2014 14:57

Singha wrote:and defence need not be with namo. just keep PM and oil n gas which is a strategic portfolio with deep links to geopolitical situation. our economy is dependent on import fossil fuel. he can take a special interest in defence PROJECTS and ACQUISITIONS but be free of day to day decision making.

rest can be outsourced to capable people.

Mind that shipping, transport, and suchlike "paying" ministries etc are not outsourced to kani raja baaaaaalu types.

Shortest and slipperiest road to damnation.

D4 will tend to protect eyetalian mafiosi regime reducing overall efficiency.

need to politically exterminate cockroaches like aunty, bunty and babloo, sibal, manish, kamalnath et al and completely pulverize + marginalize and debrief dogvijay, rundeeteevee and suchlike.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 14 Feb 2014 15:12

Lao Pindi basiya nahi...

But there is so much to do. Hope NDA sarkar does not go slow on the confrontation that is inevitable. Got to make sure no reversals of Indianization of the education system, media and minority affairs ministry is allowed this time. Some real crooked mind needs to work on these things to leave no bridges for back tracking ever.

sooraj · Post by **sooraj** » 14 Feb 2014 15:59

Who is afraid of Narendra Modi?
http://www.sunday-guardian.com/analysis ... endra-modi

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 14 Feb 2014 16:15

Gujarat hotels occupancy, tariffs touch all-time high on prospect of Narendra Modi becoming PM

Here's a travel advisory for people travelling to Ahmedabad. Book your hotel well in advance or you could end up facing a 'no vacancy' sign when you get there.

The prospect of Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi becoming India's next prime minister is drawing company executives, politicians and other assorted wheeler dealers to the state by the hundreds as they seek to connect with the man and his team. This has led to a spurt in business for the hospitality sector and occupancy and tariffs in hotels across the city abutting capital Gandhinagar have touched an all-time high.

Narendra Modi's Chai Pe Charcha event gets rave reviews in global media

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 14 Feb 2014 16:56

LakshO wrote:Initially, HRD was assigned to Arun Shourie but if India needs to have 8+% growth, power ministry needs to be in excellent hands, and the results will be seen only after 3-4 years. So, I felt Arun Shourie was the best person amongst the lot. But, we can swap Arun Shourie @ Power with Brig. Khanduri @ HRD. Should work out fine
HRD: Arun Shourie
Power: Brig. Khanduri (Retd)

Good amends. Shourie would be conducive in leading the process of curing academia from the lefty communist clutches.

Also, I'm not sure if NaMo would be allowed to keep many portfolios with himself. Its either just the PMship .. or the Home and Defense without PMship.
Coalition era hai na ....

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 14 Feb 2014 17:26

SwamyG wrote:Body language.......

I like his dressing more than NM himself.

"aap se bhi khubsurat aap ke undaz hai"

The above line is apt for AAP(tard) as well

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member_28173 · Post by **member_28173** » 14 Feb 2014 17:32

>>>need to politically exterminate cockroaches like aunty, bunty and babloo, sibal, manish, kamalnath et al and completely pulverize + marginalize and debrief dogvijay, rundeeteevee and suchlike.

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I thought Kamal Nath was good. And all effort should be get in BJP fold. Only One in congress who would hold to US pressure. He did decent job as commerce minister taking indian interests. May be for the same reason he was sidelined.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 14 Feb 2014 17:36

^^^
even more so as surface transport minister. kamalnath had a big role to play in executing ABV's dream project, golden quadlilateral.

member_28450 · Post by **member_28450** » 14 Feb 2014 17:43

Sagar G wrote:
disha wrote:2). Varun Gandhi: Ministry of minority affairs

Why should there be a ministry of minority affairs at all, in a secular country? It was anyways formed only in 2006, should be scrapped

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 14 Feb 2014 17:47

I don't understand why we blame Advani and Sushma for alliance break ups are not forming alliances. They are snakes without fangs. Modi controls the campaign and he should sway the relations and alliances. Modi should initiate an monitor the alliances. Now the ball is in Modi's court.

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 14 Feb 2014 17:50

This river water interlinking scheme seems to get the goat of all the anti India elements at one time. For 10 years the UPA govt sat on the scheme. Recently the water resources minister Harish Rawat initiated one of the many interlinking projects between two rivers in UP/MP. Immediately thereafter man was removed from the ministry and made CM of Uttarakhand. Coincidence?

merlin · Post by **merlin** » 14 Feb 2014 17:50

Rahul M wrote:^^^
even more so as surface transport minister. kamalnath had a big role to play in executing ABV's dream project, golden quadlilateral.

The competent ministers in the UPA-2 govt. can be counted on the fingers of one hand. He is one of them. Misfortunately in the wrong party

But no need for khayali pulao. Continuing and intensified voter outreach, good candidate selection and maintaining the momentum with good rallies, judicious ally selection after hard bargaining and neutralizing internal opposition from D4 and chelas who have kept them in the doldrums is still needed.

Dilli dur ast.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 14 Feb 2014 18:39

ShyamSP wrote: Modi may retain the core areas but BJP is shutting themselves out in other states. All surverys are paper numbers and nothing scientific. Congress instead of performing like in 2009 may go back to the 2004 level but still may be capable of forming UPA-3 and in worse case support third/fourth-party alliances.

While i do share your suspicion on the surveys (barring CSDS, they do field survey and not telephonic ones) and I have my own doubts if BJP can actually get these 1-2-3 seats in these states where they have no presence. If you look at it deeply congress get 145 seats in 2009 because of andhra. BJP screwed after 1999 because they lost UP. In fact in 1999, if you remove uttaranchal seats, BJP only got 25 of the 80 in UP, a big drop from their 98 tally. Problem is in 04 and 09, they just got 10.

Any what i am saying is, best case scenario for congis is 120 at best. For BJP worst case is 160 the way i see it. Now at that number what will happen i dont know

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 14 Feb 2014 18:44

ManjaM wrote:The body language of The US Amby is worth observing @ around the 0:36 second mark

Old crone trying to act like a coy bride

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 14 Feb 2014 19:10

chandturakhia wrote:>>>need to politically exterminate cockroaches like aunty, bunty and babloo, sibal, manish, kamalnath et al and completely pulverize + marginalize and debrief dogvijay, rundeeteevee and suchlike.
I thought Kamal Nath was good. And all effort should be get in BJP fold. Only One in congress who would hold to US pressure. He did decent job as commerce minister taking indian interests. May be for the same reason he was sidelined.

Why poach the few good people who are in the congress? Rather compel the people/congies to kick out the scum, anti-national forces etc from the party. Turn it to a nationalist party. We don't necessarily need a congress-mukt Bharat, what will be better is a scum mukt Congress. If 10 years from now Congress comes back to power and we don't have to worry about Indian interests taking a back seat, that will be the real revolution. No matter who is wins the elections India should always win.

putnanja · Post by **putnanja** » 14 Feb 2014 19:41

Rahul M wrote:^^^
even more so as surface transport minister. kamalnath had a big role to play in executing ABV's dream project, golden quadlilateral.

It was BC Khanduri of BJP who pushed the golden quadrilateral forward and made huge progress. It then hit a roadblock when the UPA came to power. During UPA-I, the surface transport ministry languished, and hardly made any progress. Later at the fag end of UPA-I kamalnath was made the minister for surface transport. Even he wasn't as effective as BC Khanduri though.

Kamalnath had lots of corruption allegations. It was also in some of the US SD leaks if I remember correctly, and also in Radia tapes where it is mentioned he made lot of money illegally.

It would be better to bring back Maj Gen BC Khanduri(retd) and give him a good portfolio, preferable surface transport or shipping and get big infrastructure projects moving again.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 14 Feb 2014 20:04

I don't know why people are discussing these portfolios. It is putting cart before the horse.

Modi is campaigning hard and BJP is scoring self goal after self goal. What is the use of these surveys and campaign?

In Delhi, they should never be on side of CON party. If these morons go and vote for Telangana bill, that shows to every Indian what Kujli keeps saying: CON and BJP are on the same side of the coin.

Modi and Rajnath Singh have to get a grip and tell SS/Advani to shut up and vote against the bill.

What a dumb decision to vote against introduction of Kujli's bill! You want to end up on side of Sonia and Rahul! Why?

Lets say Sushma says "We are voting against the bill because it has not been introduced, discussed and all parties to the bill are not satisfied". This is how you win the confidence of people.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 14 Feb 2014 20:18

Khujli is resigning or will resign. He now wants to be PM after successfully taking Delhi to glory.

gashish · Post by **gashish** » 14 Feb 2014 20:35

there was no vote on the bill. ..if BRFites are taken in by FUD...good luck with urban sickular zombies & yuppies

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 14 Feb 2014 20:50

putnanja wrote:
Rahul M wrote:^^^
even more so as surface transport minister. kamalnath had a big role to play in executing ABV's dream project, golden quadlilateral.
It was BC Khanduri of BJP who pushed the golden quadrilateral forward and made huge progress. It then hit a roadblock when the UPA came to power. During UPA-I, the surface transport ministry languished, and hardly made any progress. Later at the fag end of UPA-I kamalnath was made the minister for surface transport. Even he wasn't as effective as BC Khanduri though.

+1. Much of the GQ was completed in the NDA regime itself. UPA had grandiose plans and none got implemented. Kamalnath promised he would build some x km of roads every day but I doubt if he managed even if x/10.

Added Later:
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... ad-network

However, the affidavit revealed that during 1997-2002 (ninth five-year plan), when the NDA was in power, 23,814 km of national highways was added to the existing NH network, or nearly 50% of the total length of national highways constructed in three decades. This remains the largest construction of national highways during any five-year period since independence.

In fact, during the nearly 10-year rule of the UPA government, the total length of national highways laid was much less - nearly 16,000 km, the affidavit said.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 14 Feb 2014 20:59

Kamalnath was involved in massacre of Sikhs in 1984 and has many pending cases outside of India.

rajsunder · Post by **rajsunder** » 14 Feb 2014 21:35

SanjayC wrote:
SwamyG wrote:Guys, don't count the chicken before the hatch. For all we know there will not be general elections any time soon. Presidential rule, emergency etc because of chaos and anarchy.
Yesterday, I was watching a panel discussion on TV. Some Tripathi dude of Cong (who wears black glasses) made an interesting comment. He said that perhaps the most astute election watcher is Sheila Dikshit's son, Sandeep Dikshit. He had, one and a half months before elections, predicted to Tripathi that AAP will get more than 25 seats and BJP won't be able to form the Govt. in Delhi. Tripathi meant it as a compliment to Dikshit but my antennas went up for EVM fraud and that some Cong dudes knew in advance the tally that would be arrived at.

I think Cong would engineer the same for LS elections. Notice how the "Third Front" seats have been increasing in surveys, and now are almost as much as NDA's. This seems to be the game plan now -- Third Front Govt with Cong support, replicating the Delhi model. Modi will be the leader of opposition. I am 99% certain this will happen. Till EVMs get a paper trail, there is no way BJP can come to power (unless the Americans think Modi will serve their interest better by opening up the economy further for US businesses).

do u think US would want a govt with a left in it??????

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 14 Feb 2014 21:42

rajsunder wrote: do u think US would want a govt with a left in it??????

In the Indian context - Yes. The interests of the US and the Indian left is to keep out nationalists.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 14 Feb 2014 22:05

SanjayC wrote:Yesterday, I was watching a panel discussion on TV. Some Tripathi dude of Cong (who wears black glasses) made an interesting comment. He said that perhaps the most astute election watcher is Sheila Dikshit's son, Sandeep Dikshit. He had, one and a half months before elections, predicted to Tripathi that AAP will get more than 25 seats and BJP won't be able to form the Govt. in Delhi. Tripathi meant it as a compliment to Dikshit but my antennas went up for EVM fraud and that some Cong dudes knew in advance the tally that would be arrived at.

I think Cong would engineer the same for LS elections. Notice how the "Third Front" seats have been increasing in surveys, and now are almost as much as NDA's. This seems to be the game plan now -- Third Front Govt with Cong support, replicating the Delhi model. Modi will be the leader of opposition. I am 99% certain this will happen. Till EVMs get a paper trail, there is no way BJP can come to power (unless the Americans think Modi will serve their interest better by opening up the economy further for US businesses).

That is the point. How does one become so confident even before the polling. And then go on to not take any steps to avert what should look like a sticky wicket.

And besides the US route there is also the tit for tat route. I think NaMo should make use of both. We Indians know how to stretch things and Ombaba would not be the Prez to make good on the collections by the time NaMo has buried the useless deals.

M Joshi · Post by **M Joshi** » 14 Feb 2014 22:11

NM's Facebook fan following crosses 1 crore.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 14 Feb 2014 22:50

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 14 Feb 2014 23:17

Taking about wish lists, my wish is that we stop talking about the wish list.
1. Some people trusts the surveys/polls. While others say it is to induce complacency in BJP; and yet others say it is underestimating Modi wave.
2. Granted there is a Modi wave, it is clear that Modi can win only so many seats. It boils to ticket distribution and regional parties.
3. BRFites in general still consider a possibility of 'dirty tricks', 'evm magic' ityadi.

Unless there is a consensus that BJP itself will win 272+ seats, building wish list is building castles in the air no?

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 14 Feb 2014 23:27

One way to make land availability more for housing and others, NaMo should impose flat 15% tax per annum on land if that land has not been used for intended purposes (either houses, factories or office floors) in 4 years.

disha · Post by **disha** » 14 Feb 2014 23:48

Veda wrote:
Why should there be a ministry of minority affairs at all, in a secular country? ...

Precisely because it is a secular country!

disha · Post by **disha** » 14 Feb 2014 23:54

Guys I need help., I am collecting all links regarding visa denial to NaMo - however mentioning the real reason - the EJ'ism lobby.

I am working on somebody and I need as many links as possible. To start with here is one

http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/l ... z2tKAXne00

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 15 Feb 2014 00:38

putnanja wrote: It was BC Khanduri of BJP who pushed the golden quadrilateral forward and made huge progress. It then hit a roadblock when the UPA came to power.

That was what convinced me that India was on its way to becoming a superpower, something I would not have believed the previous year. The GQ and NSEW map on NHAI website would be updated almost daily to show steady progress. Contracts and joint ventures with companies from Malaysia, Germany, France, UK, USA were being handed out transparently and phataphat like precise clockwork of Army Headquarters. Not the slightest whiff of corruption or kickbacks. When UPA came, the change was immediate and jarring and it continued like that for a decade. That was when I knew the country had been sold out and may break up into 10 pieces within 2 decades. NDA did 75% of the GC-NSEW in 6 years and UPA has not finished the remaining 25% in 10 years.

It would be better to bring back Maj Gen BC Khanduri(retd) and give him a good portfolio, preferable surface transport or shipping and get big infrastructure projects moving again.

Amen. We need clean men like him badly, specially in infrastructure. Hope he is still game.

ashish raval · Post by **ashish raval** » 15 Feb 2014 01:13

Some recent work by Gujarat government.

http://www.narendramodi.in/in-pictures- ... -terminus/

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 15 Feb 2014 01:28

The performance of the GQ/NSEW project wasn't merely restricted to the speed of execution, and the attendant massive economic boost that the investment provided for so many years. What was even more important is that when they started the program, no one would step forward to invest. Roadbuilding in India had no history of being a successful outlet for private investment. The level of investment and maintenance by CPWD was abysmal.

It took a significant amount of government equity involvement by the NDA administration to seed the idea that 'this time it's different' and enable more private sector participation by making the BOT & BOOT models viable. It was the same in China in the early/mid 90s, when they built their first expressways using WB/ADB/Japanese money. The UPA had the benefit of having a mature funding environment in place, and they proceeded to drop the ball despite that. The NDA didn't just build roads. They made large scale roadbuilding a viable activity; when they started out, no one would step forward to participate. When they were done with their term, finding people willing to invest wasn't hard anymore.

The roads thread used to be very popular here until the mid 2000s, when it died on the vine along with the government's own apathy. Roadbuilding is not an act of exclusion against the have-nots. It's the fundamental basis of economic growth, by enhancing mobility. I hope a new NDA regime gets elected and restores the focus on core sector investment. There's a very straightforward approach to lowering inflation and restoring 8-9% growth - build a lot of road and rail capacity and generate a lot more power.