Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Vamsee · Post by **Vamsee** » 14 Apr 2014 20:25

NDTV opinion polls is showing insane numbers for BJP in Orissa. 7 seats for BJP????? I was counting big "Sibal" for BJP in orissa.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 14 Apr 2014 20:26

Ratnakar Sadasyula ‏@ScorpiusMaximus 2m
My predictions after Week 1 of Polls, check predictions for Assam, Odisha here

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 14 Apr 2014 20:30

Chandragupta wrote:^ If you have any cash lying around and if you're not sure how to use it - close your eyes & buy Adani. This is what somebody who deals in the market told me. It's all market sentiment - all thanks to Kejriwal. In a way, it could be Kejriwal who could be working for Ambani/Adani - link them so much to Modi that when Modi wins, their share prices hit the roof.

Always buy stocks based on Fundamentals, Kejriwal and RG are hardly people whom you can trust.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 14 Apr 2014 20:33

agastya wrote:NDTV opinion poll is up.

rrNdtv would be wrong by wide margin. In bihar , jdu is facing complete rout and rjd will get its beating from yadavas who are voting in large numbers for bjp but Misa may win.

gunjur · Post by **gunjur** » 14 Apr 2014 20:48

Will add to few more points to my post made above.

* If there is any one person who is really really putting in for congress, then its siddaramaiah. There are chances that if congress does not do well, he may be replaced.
* For folks who can understand kannada pls follow samaya news (though not entirely neutral) for election coverage. This is the same channel which is doing opinion polls.
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* There are indications floating in kannada media that curent kpcc chief parameshwar(a harijan) may be inducted in karnataka govt(might be DyCm also) and krishna byregowda may be made kpcc chief. This might attract okkaligas towards congress. It seems rahul is not that keen on the ahinda(BC-SC-Minority) politics of siddaramaiah and wants to pull one of the dominant communities towards congress. One more reason for this thinking is, atleast "on record" siddaramaiah had told that 2013 assembly election would be his last election. Anyways since veerashaivas are going back to bjp, this in turn will create both a push and pull factor for both congress and okkaligas. Rahul camp also wants to project the youth factor by projecting krishna byregowda. Anyway these are post poll scenarios.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 14 Apr 2014 20:51

X-Post....

chaanakya wrote:Seats by Largest Party and Runner up in Loksabha so far

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LokSabha   	Year  	    Tally

1st Loksabha	1951	INC		       364
			             CPI		       16
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2nd Loksabha	1957	INC		       371
			             CPI		       27
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3rd Loksabha	1962	INC		       361
			             CPI		        29
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4th Loksabha	1967	INC		        283
		     	        Swatantra Prty	44
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5th Loksabha	1971	INC		       352
			             NDF		       51
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6th Loksabha	1977	Janata Alliance	345
			             INC		        153
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7th Loksabha	1980	INC		       351
			           Lokdal		        41
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8th Loksabha	1984	INC		      404
			            TDP		       30
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9th Loksabha	1989	INC		     197
			             JD		     143
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10th Loksabha	1991	INC		    244
			             BJP		    120
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11th Loksabha	1996	BJP		    161
			             INC		    140
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12th Loksabha	1998	BJP		   182	
			             INC		   141
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13th Loksabha	1999	BJP		    180
			              INC		    114
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14th Loksabha	2004	INC		    145
			             BJP		    138
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15th Loksabha	2009	INC		    206		
			             BJP		    116
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16th Loksabha	2014	*		*
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Nageshks and muraliravi, Please write and eassy on the fact that when the opposition party gets around 150 seats it leads to unstable govt due to the Westminister system adopted by the Consititution.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 14 Apr 2014 20:54

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Madurai/madurais-sourashtrians-are-a-disappointed-lot/article5910444.ece

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Apr 2014 20:56

MediaCrooks ‏@mediacrooks 13m

SoniaG's TV lecture should be categorised as "HATE SPEECH".. She assumes hate-mongering against Modi can fool Indians.. Not anymore @ibnlive

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Apr 2014 20:56

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Apr 2014 20:59

Minhaz Merchant ‏@minhazmerchant 15m

After Maha & MP projections in NDTV poll, NDA looking good for 275-280. AAP gets 1 seat in Delhi, Cong/NCP decimated in Maha

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 14 Apr 2014 21:01

ramana wrote:
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Nageshks and muraliravi, Please write and eassy on the fact that when the opposition party gets around 150 seats it leads to unstable govt due to the Westminister system adopted by the Consititution.

Ramana Sir,

I am in the process of writing a document which pushes for run off election in India at a constituency level in seats where winner has less than 50% votes. I will add this fact about opposition getting 150 seats in the same document. But if other brfites have ideas, please pass on. IMHO, this is the only long term solution for India's woes. The westminister system has been mastered by congress and its proxies to host manchurians to divide votes, appease 15-20% communities and win elections.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 14 Apr 2014 21:05

So in Bihar BJP loses Aurnagabd and Sasaram, and win the other 2. In next phase tough seat for BJP are - Patliputra, Kishenganj and few others.

Ankit Desai · Post by **Ankit Desai** » 14 Apr 2014 21:05

Final Numbers in recent NDTV's April opinion poll.

NDA 275 (BJP 226)
UPA 111 (Congress 92)
Others 157

Vote Share
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NDA 35.5%
Congress 25.6%

-Ankit

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Apr 2014 21:09

No wonder midway Modi started asking for 300 lotus.
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Dr Rakesh Sinha ‏@RakeshSinha01 35m

Nehru visited twice N Bomabay LS constituency in 1952 election to ensure defeat of Dr Ambedkar.

Abhijit Majumder ‏@abhijitmajumder 11h

Difficult to believe Congress would have fielded against NaMo in Varanasi a person whom he'd address as 'Mrs Vadra' from Minute 1

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Apr 2014 21:11

which seat is the AAP likely to win in delhi and who is contesting?

amdavadi · Post by **amdavadi** » 14 Apr 2014 21:13

NDTV opinion poll says..

Others party will get 157 seats....Thats lot of seat

M Joshi · Post by **M Joshi** » 14 Apr 2014 21:15

Sonia Gandhi on EVERY news channel from 8:57pm to 9:00pm simultaneously asking 'i soggetti' to vote for the unity of the country. She's talking about "our secular" culture, "our" history, "our" traditions.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Apr 2014 21:15

THE NEWSHOUR ‏@thenewshour 10m

In response to Sonia Gandhi's #TVattack, BJP says maximum riots took place in Congress ruled states

THE NEWSHOUR ‏@thenewshour 4m

Post Sonia Gandhi's #TVattack, Congress says it won't respond to BJP's venomous and vitriolic attack

So it has come down to such a low for CON that the queen bee herself had to enter the battle.

Dr. Praveen Patil ‏@5Forty3 12m

Sudheendra Kulkarni "I have spoken to leaders in BJP (Advani ji that is) and they are not giving more than 30 seats to their own party in UP

Dr. Praveen Patil ‏@5Forty3 10m

Zoya Hasan almost reduced to tears, "for Muslims today there is nothing more important than stopping Modi"; She is "SECULAR"!

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Apr 2014 21:19

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Apr 2014 21:21

ANI ‏@ANI_news 11m

Aise control to maine kahi nahi dekha. Sonia madam kahe to uthe, kahe to baith jao: Shivraj Singh Chouhan (BJP)

Prasanna Viswanathan ‏@prasannavishy 13m

Last ditch attempt by scumbags @SudheenKulkarni . openly inciting communal poison. ....

Hindustan Times ‏@htTweets 14m

Rahul Gandhi's brain hasn't matured with age: #Modi http://read.ht/dif pic.twitter.com/9iPy5yo4fP

asifakhan ‏@asifakhanbjp 23m

Modi ji ki hawa nahi sunami chal rahi hai....dekhiye Sonia Madam ud kar bahar Aa gae hai

Dinesh Nair ‏@ottteri 43m

Modi Wave smoked out Sonia Gandhi from her rat hole @INCIndia

Narendra Modi ‏@narendramodi 24m

Congress is least bothered about marginalised sections of society. They must tell people why they humiliated Babasaheb Ambedkar repeatedly.

Narendra Modi ‏@narendramodi 29m

Political untouchability & disrespect towards institutions is the hallmark of Congress. No wonder it was a Congress PM who imposed Emergency

India Today ‏@IndiaToday 31m

Rahul hasn't matured mentally, that's why he talks about toffees: Modi http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/rahu ... 55717.html …

dna ‏@dna 26m

Jharkhand government will collapse before counting of votes in Lok Sabha polls: BJP http://dnai.in/ca6M #MyVote2014

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 14 Apr 2014 21:29

What crap is Hindustaniyat ? The name of the country is Bharat.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 14 Apr 2014 21:31

Apologize if posted. Bangladeshis will stay.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1140414/j ... 0wNfFeAnuc
"Bijay-wary Naveen plays Bengali card
ASHUTOSH MISHRA AND MANOJ KAR
Mahakalpada (Kendrapara), April 13: Engaged in a proxy war with his arch rival Bijay Mohapatra of the BJP in this coastal constituency, chief minister Naveen Patnaik today played the ‘Bengali’ card to shore up his party candidate Atanu Sabyasachi Nayak’s fortunes here......
Former energy minister Atanu Sabyasachi Nayak, the BJD candidate from the constituency, also harped on the same theme assuring the settlers that his party was committed to protecting their interests. “Naveen Patnaik has taken a vow to protect you since you have been living here as Indian citizens,” he thundered to the rapturous applause of the capacity crowd......."
Gautam

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Apr 2014 21:32

CNN-IBN News ‏@ibnlive 32m

RT @IBNLivePolitics: BJP candidate, 30 others injured in Tamil Nadu attack http://ibnlive.in.com/news/bjp-candidat ... 37-64.html …

THE NEWSHOUR ‏@thenewshour 34m

JD(U) latches on to Congress President Sonia Gandhi's #TVattack, backs comments saying BJP's vision full of hatred

New Indian Express ‏@NewIndianXpress 40m

Nothing to Hide in Coal Allocation: PMO - http://tnie.in/1iivIlS

Dr. Praveen Patil ‏@5Forty3 41m

Hansa and NDTV now say NDA is getting a majority (272) on its own... Prannoy Roy must be a heartbroken man.

MediaCrooks ‏@mediacrooks 51m

Hahaha... NDTV predicts "SIBAL" seats for AAP in Haryana... Dear Salim.. Aag lagao bhai... @AapYogendra

Saral · Post by **Saral** » 14 Apr 2014 21:37

Zoya Hasan almost reduced to tears, "for Muslims today there is nothing more important than stopping Modi"

This one will be framed for a looong time as a prime exemplar of sickularism.

Sanjay · Post by **Sanjay** » 14 Apr 2014 21:41

Everything to play for - voter mobilization and ground work must be intensified.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 14 Apr 2014 21:44

foto of raga after voting elections in delhi.
(unreal times)

congress changes its symbol from palm to facepalm after raga interveiw.
(unreal times)

some humour.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Apr 2014 21:52

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Apr 2014 22:01

narendra nath ‏@iamnarendranath 2h

Strong believe in Bihar that after 16th May Nitish will not survive single day as CM of, his own MLA will desert.October Election speculated

Yashwant Deshmukh ‏@cvoter 15m

Hahaha; ye AAP wale NDTV ka gussa mujh par kyon nikaal rahe hain? Kamaal hai bhai. NDTV has become bloody Sanghi so what can I do about it!!

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Apr 2014 22:07

member_21074 · Post by **member_21074** » 14 Apr 2014 22:08

pankajs wrote:

How can they show opinion polls between elections? Isn't it illegal to do so?

SaraLax · Post by **SaraLax** » 14 Apr 2014 22:08

SanjayC wrote:
Chandragupta wrote:It was the NDA government that introduced EVMs. Why did they?
After nuclear blasts, Goras gave NDA an ultimatum: We will impose sanctions unless you do the following:

1. Introduce EVMs with chip and software from us.
2. Allow foreign investment in Indian news media

The moment NDA agreed, Goras ensured it won't come to power again. As long as EVMs are there, there is no way Sonia Gandhi can be dislodged from power. Goras will see to it, Modi or no Modi. The only hope for BJP is when Americans think Modi rule is in their interest because he will improve the economy, helping US businesses make money.

Never before in history has a democracy been as subverted by Goras as India. They are stealing the popular mandate and putting their own proxies in power.

I think too much is being imagined & unnecessary fear created - in the above post.

I don't think the BJP core leaders are dumb enough that they would go ahead bravely & just out of nowhere shock the world by exploding 5 nuke test weapons & then immediately start shivering in their dhoties about resultant punishments from the West & show their backsides to painfully get whipped.

Any BJP/NDA leader who knew the above indicated [1] & [2] were being forced on to India by West (even if they were being done) - would not have needed to use his analytical capabilities for more than 5 minutes to sense & understand that these were possible weapons for getting educated India on to a west-controlled unstable orbit. The BJP already had calm, good minds like Shourie, (late) Pramod Mahajan, Modi at that time in their frontline and some more of deep thinkers in the academic scene (in the background). They would have soon come to the conclusion as to what the West was thinking for us to get into.

I remember that the SBI went around the world, did a more than 4 billion US $ "Resurgent India Bonds" mop-up from mostly NRIs and this was after the West imposed Sanctions on India for the Nuke blasts. The effect of the economic sanctions was small on the whole country. I don't think the Pokhran-2 left NDA or India feeling weak and vulnerable. In fact - NDA was voted into power strongly again in 1999 after they flunked the stability test by 1 vote in Lok Sabha.

Sonugn · Post by **Sonugn** » 14 Apr 2014 22:13

Jut saw a segment NDTV opinion poll. N Ram indulging in a lot of name calling "militant", "communal", "fundamentalist", lot of consternation and butt hurt

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Apr 2014 22:17

Imagine undiTV of all channels projecting 272+ for NDA! The projections are not from a Sanghi or aa Ambani agent. I mean it is their very own channel! How can they rationalize or spin that. So they have resorted to all sorts of name calling to let off steam.

I can understand their pain for I have experienced the same for the last 5 years at least seeing the path the country was put on by CON.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Apr 2014 22:22

Exit polls are banned during the polling period and not opinion polls.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 14 Apr 2014 22:24

Or as someone corrected me, Exit polls are allowed, but results cannot be shared. Opinion poll has no restriction.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 14 Apr 2014 22:24

But you were not name calling or abusing your privilege of being media. Media is supposed to be neutral in a democracy to allow fair and balanced politcial discourse.
In India DD was Congress agent. When private media came they too became Congress agents as the media owneres were mainly business people and had no commitment to fairness in reporting.

Soe form of media reform in needed for future of democracy in India.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Apr 2014 22:26

fanne wrote:Or as someone corrected me, Exit polls are allowed, but results cannot be shared. Opinion poll has no restriction.

I stand corrected.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 14 Apr 2014 22:29

CNN-IBN News ‏@ibnlive 18m

Manmohan Singh's image hits a new low after 2 tell-all books on him http://ow.ly/vM4wE

The nuclear deal was when I started doubting Munna and with the passing of time my doubts became certainties.

SaraLax · Post by **SaraLax** » 14 Apr 2014 22:35

dhruvM wrote:Re EVM tampering dhoti shiver..

I agree with Nageshksji instead of SanjayC guru. It is certainly possible to tamper EVM vote counts (EVM magic was the only reason Chidambaram survived recount) BUT the logistics of it don't scale up. You need to physically access the machines (need bolis for this + the fact that party agents can and do monitor the storage rooms from time of polling till the counting day). This might be possible for a few booths per constituency but to imagine that it happened all over the country in 2004 & 2009, without any party complaining and no sting operations... is a long shot.

Wiki says this is a simple machine patented in 1980 and manufactured by desi BEL. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_voting_machines

FWIW all my family members in the government, all committed RSSwallahs, say this EVM magic theory is non-sense. We lost 2004 for the cadres were not enthused, and 2009 cause of lohpurush and his leadership or lack thereof. Occams razor

Too much crap going around here in this forum on EVMs.
Some basic details on the EVM.

- EVMs were designed in BEL.

- EVM was actually designed under the guidance of a very good Electronics engineer, a strong Indic & a Tamil named S.Rangarajan (More popularly known as SUJATHA , his pen name) . He is no more though. He is very popular all over Tamil Nadu. In the later stage of his life, he wrote some wonderful novels (replete with story points that now appear to have been all along illustrating Hindu philosophical ideas), scripted dialogues for some nice hit films and wrote well on sci-tech topics for popular Tamil Magazines. SUJATHA was also a classmate of former president APJ Abdul Kalam when doing his B.Sc Physics at Trichy.

- EVMs are manufactured in India by BEL & ECIL (defence electronics, consumer electronics & telecom related PSU companies).

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 14 Apr 2014 22:43

Muraliravi, are the voteshare projection on 5fourty3 as expected ? I was a bit surprised looking at the MP and Bihar voteshare prediction towards RJD/Congress.