Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

member_28555 · Post by **member_28555** » 12 May 2014 04:22

fanne wrote:Not in Urdu, in Hindi?

my Hindi is deplorable, but yes, it's in Hindi. They are throwing their weight behind kujli kejriwal

edit: maybe hindi is a more popular language among the targeted populace

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 May 2014 04:24

muraliravi wrote:
suryag wrote:

Shocking in what sense? pleasantly or unpleasant?
Check his tweet replies, he says surprise in +++ direction

So who is he?

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 12 May 2014 04:30

Cosmo_R wrote:This is election related albeit as an example of the loony left wing drawing room liberals:

http://liveblogs.indiatimes.com/politic ... her-brood/

Some of the stellar excerpts:

"She is told the key word is ‘development’, but she wants to know: development at what cost? Whose development? What kind of development ? Would it mean some of her children will benefit and others won’t ? If so, she is not comfortable with plans that exclude large segments of her family."

A couple of things:

1. Mother's Day is an invention of the Hallmark Card Company
2. The cost of no or even little development is much larger than her 'at what cost'?
3. You can only include those who want to be included on a set of terms that apply to all.

Shows you that facial carpentry and perfect dental implants do not lead to any new insights.

This woman along with one Bacchi Karkaria should be barred from writing.

I stopped reading the farticle after it aid Bharat Mata was 67 years old. You must have lot more patience to go thru such painful verbal $iarrhea.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 12 May 2014 04:56

RajeshA wrote:
Shishir Gupta ‏@sisir_gupta 14m
I am told that main exit polls tomorrow will even be a shocker for Modi supporters.

The shock will only be if UP instead of 45 gives 60, Bihar gives 30, Maha gives 22. Then NDA = BJP(272)+.....

Bharath.Subramanyam · Post by **Bharath.Subramanyam** » 12 May 2014 05:07

Congress slowly over time is becoming a party of ‘secular’ demographics alone. In the 2011 assembly elections in Tamil Nadu, DMK took a drubbing. Congress managed to get 5 seats out of which three came from Christian majority seats in Kanyakumari district. The three INC winners & one DMK winner (Christian candidate) from Kanyakumari district had double digit margins. While the two ADMK winners from Kanyakumari district had single digit margins. DMK was affected because of corruption issue. In that election, many DMK stalwarts lost. Their top leader Karunanidhi moved away from Chennai city to distant rural constituency. His son MK Stalin won with a margin of less than 2% (2800 votes margin) even after moving to a suburban seat from city center in Chennai. As the famous CRI editor Prasannavishy says ‘minority’ vote is not affected by corruption or development & onnly ‘natives’ vote on livelihood issues.

In the recently concluded Madhya Pradesh assembly elections in December 2013, BJP came back to power with extra 8% vote share. Is there any understanding where a ruling party after 10 years in power wins with extra 8% vote share? Even in a place like MP, congress is becoming a party of ‘minorities’ alone bit by bit.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 12 May 2014 05:28

Muppalla wrote: The shock will only be if UP instead of 45 gives 60, Bihar gives 30, Maha gives 22. Then NDA = BJP(272)+.....

Muppala garu...

Just remember that you are yet to give me what BJP should do to get 272+

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 12 May 2014 06:10

http://m.economictimes.com/news/politic ... 988372.cms

Now 10 Sampath is after Smriti Irani for spending, and could disqualify her

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 12 May 2014 06:13

RamaY wrote:
Muppalla wrote: The shock will only be if UP instead of 45 gives 60, Bihar gives 30, Maha gives 22. Then NDA = BJP(272)+.....
Muppala garu...

Just remember that you are yet to give me what BJP should do to get 272+

What is there is to give sir jee, this time there are several avenues all over the digital world as compared to five years ago.

Let me put this out. There is only possibility to predict based on past numbers, ground cadre or castes etc. Based on such predictions it is just impossible to put beyond 200 as there was never a performance beyond that maximum even on paper. This time if BJP gets 230 or 240 or 250 is all possible if there is real ground data and impossible to predict as armchair analyst. The possible prediction model is already used by muraliravi and he did an awesome job. He tried his best to pull it to 190. Beyond that we should should just see ground data. Good avenues are CSDS (CNN-IBN), 5fourty3.com (trying to be conservative and is willing to err on NDA's number towards lower side). Lastly watchout Today Chanakya. All it needs is another 12 hours when all these folks will unleash their numbers. A few leaks might start in another 9 hours.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 12 May 2014 06:24

RamaY and Muppalla sirs,

Just got to manage the booths - Particularly on election day. It will give you 5% more votes at least. CPM and BJP are the two parties which used to do it better in 1990s. If BJP manages booth level voting in UP and Bihar as it seem to have done else where already then 272plus is possible.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 12 May 2014 06:24

RamaY wrote:
Muppalla wrote: The shock will only be if UP instead of 45 gives 60, Bihar gives 30, Maha gives 22. Then NDA = BJP(272)+.....
Muppala garu...

Just remember that you are yet to give me what BJP should do to get 272+

Arre yaar sab ko pataa hai 272 tak pahunchne ke liye ka hona hai. Abhi bees-pachees baar BR phorum me iski charcha hui hai. Ab kya poochna. Bas daru ki botal kholo aur TV ke saamne baithke ejjit poll dekho sahib

sabki 'pol' khulegi.

Aaj se sab bahas bekaar
Abki baar Modi sarkaar

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 12 May 2014 06:27

Narayana Rao wrote:RamaY and Muppalla sirs,

Just got to manage the booths - Particularly on election day. It will give you 5% more votes at least. CPM and BJP are the two parties which used to do it better in 1990s. If BJP manages booth level voting in UP and Bihar as it seem to have done else where already then 272plus is possible.

Also polling so far is 64%, indicative of a change in thinking of people

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 12 May 2014 07:26

jamwal wrote:Unpleasantly pleasant

Narendra Modi will lose onlee.

It's all dhoti shivering time. The forum will either enjoy or decipher EVM magic with accolades to RM. Wish the former.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 12 May 2014 07:40

(Ganpat) Rai is having his 15 minutes of fame on the TV channels this morning.

Derelikt O'Brien declaring TMC will be the third largest party in LS. In fact I wish they become the second largest

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 12 May 2014 07:44

I feel the risk of EVM magic is being managed by NM. How? We may never know. To expect NM who is all for tech.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 May 2014 07:45

RamaY: The real question is, are you going to work tomorrow

) or are you going to be sitting at home watching the exit polls.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 May 2014 07:49

KLP Dubey wrote: Derelikt O'Brien declaring TMC will be the third largest party in LS. In fact I wish they become the second largest

That dude is so mad at Modi suddenly, he has said so many things in the last 10 days or so....I am wondering how Didi can ever align with NDA. Few months back, he was quite reasonable bloke, granted Su.Swamy can push the buttons of everyone; but DoB is losing his cool and nerves. He has bad mouthed Modi so much, I wonder how TMC can be part of NDA.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 12 May 2014 08:01

SwamyG wrote:He has bad mouthed Modi so much, I wonder how TMC can be part of NDA.

TMC should be systematically run into the ground by NaMo, Amit Shah, and Co. after the election.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 12 May 2014 08:06

Bharath.Subramanyam wrote:Congress slowly over time is becoming a party of ‘secular’ demographics alone. In the 2011 assembly elections in Tamil Nadu, DMK took a drubbing. Congress managed to get 5 seats out of which three came from Christian majority seats in Kanyakumari district. The three INC winners & one DMK winner (Christian candidate) from Kanyakumari district had double digit margins. While the two ADMK winners from Kanyakumari district had single digit margins. DMK was affected because of corruption issue. In that election, many DMK stalwarts lost. Their top leader Karunanidhi moved away from Chennai city to distant rural constituency. His son MK Stalin won with a margin of less than 2% (2800 votes margin) even after moving to a suburban seat from city center in Chennai. As the famous CRI editor Prasannavishy says ‘minority’ vote is not affected by corruption or development & only ‘natives’ vote on livelihood issues.

Sadly,this is true.Its sad and ominous.And it is sad because in this very page,a 'relic' of the past like Philip Sir is speaking the language of nationalism,shared interests,common destiny,sense of belonging etc.

Its a fact christians,even more than muslims, vote strategically in their 'communitys interests'.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 12 May 2014 08:10

Beating TMS should be relatively easy to do. After all in terms of incompetence Didi is competing with the chota mulla. Onlee. Keep it up and BJP can easily will in the assembly elections. In 17. But this presupposes, that they can win power in the center in 14.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 12 May 2014 08:20

Narayana Rao wrote:I feel the risk of EVM magic is being managed by NM. How? We may never know. To expect NM who is all for tech.

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 12 May 2014 08:47

Have the voter turn out figures started coming in ?

SRoy · Post by **SRoy** » 12 May 2014 10:00

Voted.
Very heavy polling in our locality. I think it must be close to 50% by 10:30 AM.
Although peaceful (heads will roll if booth capturing goons even set foot in our area), no central forces. Some 10-12 WB cops for security. All women polling officers manning the booth.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 12 May 2014 10:03

NaMo will lose onlee.

member_28359 · Post by **member_28359** » 12 May 2014 10:08

SRoy wrote:Voted.
Very heavy polling in our locality. I think it must be close to 50% by 10:30 AM.
Although peaceful (heads will roll if booth capturing goons even set foot in our area), no central forces. Some 10-12 WB cops for security. All women polling officers manning the booth.

Sir r u from Salt Lake area.Myself and my parents went to vote early in the morning thinking that no one would be present.But to our surprise there were long queues.Also women polling officers manning the booth and heavy security presence.

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 12 May 2014 10:15

Did the derelict o'brien actually say that Hindu idols are good enough to be only in the bedroom?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 12 May 2014 10:17

sgvichitra विचित्र की नमो नम: 19h
pic.twitter.com/7jMsf7Fe4i

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 12 May 2014 10:19

As and When NaMo is installed the PM of Bharat (Zor se bolo, BJP will lose only), The myth of Muslim vote bank will be broken once and for all. Of course all Islamist and Xtians will come out of their holes to claim credit for NaMo's victory but let it not be forgotten that each and every influential member of Muslim and Christian society screamed against Modi and exhorted their followers to vote against Modi and not a single voice of sanity was heard in this din. It is as if there are 2 countries one voting for Modi and other against him.
Next he will be asked to prove his secular credentials by bringing in more Muslim and xtian ministers in his cabinet. Those who didn't vote for NDA should not get any ministry under any circumstances and biggest slap on the face of secularist would be when ministry of Minority affairs is given to a Hindu.

Let this election be remembered for Hindu consolidation and beginning of new era to be named as Modi Samvat.
Since the loss at Panipat in 1761, this is for the first time, Indics will get to rule this country as per Indic thought and samskara.

PS: Modi will lose only

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 12 May 2014 10:21

NDTV ‏@ndtv 23m

17.78% voter turnout till 10 am in Bihar. Track updates http://bit.ly/1dDhTJg #Elections2014

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 12 May 2014 10:23

VikasRaina wrote: Those who didn't vote for NDA should not get any ministry under any circumstances and biggest slap on the face of secularist would be when ministry of Minority affairs is given to a Hindu.

Amit Shah is a good candidate for this post

- he's a Jain. He understands minorities VERY well.

SRoy · Post by **SRoy** » 12 May 2014 10:29

VikasRaina wrote: Next he will be asked to prove his secular credentials by bringing in more Muslim and xtian ministers in his cabinet.

BJP will be finished if Modi falls for it.
RSS probably will launch a new outfit.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 12 May 2014 10:30

VikasRaina wrote:As and When NaMo is installed the PM of Bharat (Zor se bolo, BJP will lose only), The myth of Muslim vote bank will be broken once and for all. Of course all Islamist and Xtians will come out of their holes to claim credit for NaMo's victory but let it not be forgotten that each and every influential member of Muslim and Christian society screamed against Modi and exhorted their followers to vote against Modi and not a single voice of sanity was heard in this din. It is as if there are 2 countries one voting for Modi and other against him.
Next he will be asked to prove his secular credentials by bringing in more Muslim and xtian ministers in his cabinet. Those who didn't vote for NDA should not get any ministry under any circumstances and biggest slap on the face of secularist would be when ministry of Minority affairs is given to a Hindu.

Let this election be remembered for Hindu consolidation and beginning of new era to be named as Modi Samvat.
Since the loss at Panipat in 1761, this is for the first time, Indics will get to rule this country as per Indic thought and samskara.

PS: Modi will lose only

+1009

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 12 May 2014 10:42

SRoy wrote:
VikasRaina wrote: Next he will be asked to prove his secular credentials by bringing in more Muslim and xtian ministers in his cabinet.
BJP will be finished if Modi falls for it.
RSS probably will launch a new outfit.

NaMo-led BJP's strong point has been that it does not get unduly bogged with such tokenisms. Once I had a discussion with an RSS adhikaari, about representation of SC/ST/OBC on top leadership positions. To this day it is dominated by (not even majority, but a large portion by Maharashtrian) Brahmins. His answer was that we cannot and should not disown the past (demography in RSS), and many entrants (since PP Deorasji's time) has been from underprivileged background, due to his focus on Sewa (PP Guruji was more focused on Hindutva/Cultural-nationalism). This gels in quite well with anecdotal evidence of Modiji. According to the adhikaari, the pace of change should not be artificial/force-feed (i.e. promotions to fill in the right faces) but based on induction.

RSS cycle is much long-term compared to our election cycles, so not sure if Modiji can resist the tokenism trap.

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 12 May 2014 10:44

Are shahs jains?

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 12 May 2014 10:47

11:23 LIVE! MM Joshi defends Ajay Rai: Everyone takes their hand to poll booth, can't cut it off: "Party which is winning with huge majority should not bother about such small things," says BJP's Murli Manohar Joshi, on Ajay Rai wearing his party symbol. "Everyone takes their hand into a poll booth, should we cut it off?" he asks.

MM Joshi had won Varanasi in 2009 but had to leave his seat for Narendra Modi.

10:02 No missing names, no violence reported in Varanasi:
Vicky Nanjappa @ Varanasi: The holy city may witness a high voter turn out this time. In at least 10 booths, people were seen standing in queue since 6am. Some wanted to be the first ones to cast their vote. Others just wanted to beat the heat by coming in early.

No missing names in voters lists so far. Also, there have also not been reports of violence as yet.

rediff

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 12 May 2014 10:50

Arjun wrote:
VikasRaina wrote:
Amit Shah is a good candidate for this post - he's a Jain. He understands minorities VERY well.

NaMo and Amit Shah - "Me Tarzan, you Jain"

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 12 May 2014 10:53

Latest from WB
by Soumyakant Sinha (View MyPage) on May 12, 2014 11:01 AM | Hide replies

Most of the booths in rural Bengal have been captured. No CCTV is made working. News reporters are being attacked and their cameras are being broken. Other party's agents (other than ruling TMC) are getting life threats and driven out of booths. Thousands of Bangladeshi inflitrators are pushed to each constituency with fake voter card to case vote in favour of TMC. Other party's supporters are geing held up at their houses and not allowed to come to vote. No trace of EC observer anywhere. Thousands of complains are piled up at EC office and not a single is attended. WB police is dominating and working for TMC to allow their rigging. Paramilitary force is purposely detained inside the camp by District authorities and not allowed to go to booth. It is completely a mess here.

rediff

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 12 May 2014 11:01

Dr. Praveen Patil ‏@5Forty3 1h

Initial UP trends suggest SP is doing very well in Azamgarh and surprisingly decently in Deoria; Varanasi will be up in 45 minutes.

merlin · Post by **merlin** » 12 May 2014 11:03

krishnan wrote:
11:23 LIVE! MM Joshi defends Ajay Rai: Everyone takes their hand to poll booth, can't cut it off: "Party which is winning with huge majority should not bother about such small things," says BJP's Murli Manohar Joshi, on Ajay Rai wearing his party symbol. "Everyone takes their hand into a poll booth, should we cut it off?" he asks.

MM Joshi had won Varanasi in 2009 but had to leave his seat for Narendra Modi.

Ajay Rai may be trying to get himself disqualified, reluctantly, to favour Khujli. Good to see that the BJP is not falling for it, but I fully expect Khujli to.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 12 May 2014 11:05

harbans wrote:The only thing that will shock AAP, UPA and BJP at the same time is a 350 or 400 plus figure..

Truly. That would be shocking. Inshallah it will happen onlee.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 12 May 2014 11:09

suryag wrote:Are shahs jains?

Some are Vaishya Hindu and some Jain. AS is Jain.