How can Fair people be unfair hain?James B wrote:An old PIA ad
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What unfair advantage? - Being TFTA?.
Martiallaw! I am having cognitive disonnance:James B wrote:An old PIA ad.
What's the secret? The hospitality of the East
How long to learn? About 5000 years.
The discrepancy is that the distraction with coup activities in Slumbad took away the ability to (fraudulently) bill for hours of the Baki Fauj mercenaries in their role as major Non-NATO-All-Lie in the Global War for Terror.A_Gupta wrote:Well, there are two forms of loss. One is property and capital damage (e.g., say, a shop or a bus got damaged). The second is loss of productivity (e.g., the shop was closed and lost a week's worth of sales, etc.).Anujan wrote:They are claiming $5 billion loss due to protests.
Now, Pakistan's GDP per Wiki in 2014, is $245 billion (exchange rate) or $576 billion (PPP). I'm going to be very generous and give them $1 billion (exchange rate) GDP per day. Then it would take a complete shutdown of the whole of Pakistan's economy for 1 day to lose $1 billion. Bandhs in some sections of a few cities hardly qualifies for that.
The 50,000 people killed by terrorism in 10 years at $4000 per capita GDP per year gives a nominal figure of loss of $2 billion -- over 10 years. This does not count property damage.
I do not want to trivialize the deaths or minimize the pain and suffering of the families who lost loved ones; but just want to make the numbers comprehensible.
A Sri Lankan court has granted the government permission to start deporting Pakistani minority refugees from the country, going back on its earlier decision to hold back after Sri Lank cited increases in the disease and crime rate of the country as a result of the influx of refugees. According to the Sri Lankan authorities, the spread of malaria and a jump in the stats of petty crime is forcing their hand. But the Sri Lankan government’s revelation comes months after the initial arrest sprees, in which hundreds of refugees were put behind bars without access to UNHCR representatives or medical aid.Roughly 1800 refugees were seeking shelter in Sri Lanka, with as many as 1500 of them from Pakistan, belonging to minority groups such as Christians, Shia Muslims and members of the Ahmadiyya community, all of them, suppressed, marginalized and attacked, and the last of which have been slaughtered without any pretence ever since they were declared non-Muslims. There is no denying that the increase in refugees in Sri Lanka has been exponential, and the government’s claim of a 700 percent increase might not be too far off the mark. It is also true that Sri Lanka is not a signatory of the 1951 UN Refugee Convention. However, Sri Lanka cannot legally send refugees back to torture or worse.And still, over 108 people have been deported back to Pakistan between August 1st and 14th. Foreign Office Spokesperson, Tasnim Aslam’s despicable statement disowning all those who had left Pakistan without showing even “a trace of shame” at their persecution and the state’s inability to protect them does not mean that the lives of minorities should be trifled with. With both the Sri Lankan and Pakistani government’s indifference, the UNHCR cannot stand by helplessly as it has done on so many occasions. There is a legal basis for the protection of innocent lives that have no homeland. The Sri Lankan government’s assertions should be ignored and the refugees languishing in their prisons must be released and processed in the interests of their most basic human rights.
In South Asia, the complete lack of visionary leadership is a serious challenge. While President Ziaul Haq drove this country in a reverse gear the consequences of which linger in the form of ethnic conflict, sectarian violence, radicalisation, oppression against freedom of expression, and exploitation of minorities. Equally to blame is Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto. Historic precedents have demonstrated that religiosity does not let nations become pragmatic; corruption and perceived corruption reduces investment, which makes them less competitive and less efficient. Pakistan is the second largest Muslim country, and if the population – which is projected to exceed more than 250 million by 2030 and up to 335 million by 2050 – presumably grows at that same rate, then it will be a tough battle for the leadership to overcome the dramatic challenges that come with the uncertainty that climate change, geopolitical difficulties and social and cultural isolation pose.
Currently, we have a population of 198 million people, with a median age of 22, 63 percent of the youth is under the age of 29 years, making Pakistan as one of the youngest nations in the world. If this invaluable human capital is not leveraged in achieving its optimal potential, then with deteriorating service delivery, unemployment and injustice will further frustrate the coming generations which will become the gravest challenge for state institutions – ultimately undermining the political system. The country’s elite captures determining the economic growth model have mostly benefited the rich more than the poor; institutions retreating from providing essential legal assistance, collecting taxes and security have severely discredited the socio-economic and political outlook of the country. Pakistan already has a fragile political system; and while the philosophy behind strategic depth is hugely out of fashion, the country in the information age has failed to integrate the role of its institutions with the growing needs of not only its population but also in aligning itself to the global knowledge-grid.
In order to secure stability in the region Pakistan, the Kashmir region and India must chalk a way forward. Complacency towards diplomatic obligations will lead to further internal misfortunes. Lack of public funding, appalling institutional capacity in service delivery, access to justice, and extremism – already a bane of contention – will further fuel internal crisis. As the state loses its relevance, it has created room for many of the non-state actors who are essentially plugging in the loopholes. While incompetence can be one of the reasons, the country needs to learn to start paying for itself. Masooda Bano has, in one of her writings, highlighted the failure of development funds channelled through non-governmental organisations eroding cooperative behaviours rather than strengthening initiatives amongst the state, community and individuals. A serious issue that goes unaccounted for in realpolitik.
Prominent Shia leader, his guard shot dead in Pakistan
Allama Ali Akbar Kumaili, the son of respected Shia scholar and Jafaria Alliance Pakistan chief Allama Abbas Kumaili, was targeted by unknown gunmen riding a motorbike near Bhangoria Goth in Azizabad, police said.
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SARGODHA: A brigadier and two others were killed and seven people injured when armed men attacked a shrine here on Saturday.
unidentified assailants opened fire at the audience, killing Subhani, the head of the shrine (Gaddi Nasheen), his brother Brigadier Fazal Zahoor Qadri and one Malik Ayub. The attackers escaped.
Yep. Just as those moderate Nazis, there are moderate malsics.Mr Subhani was known as a moderate preacher
Alarm bells rang in the affected regions after the Flood Forecasting Division (FFD) said a fresh peak of “extremely exceptional high flood” — 861,000 cusecs — had entered River Chenab at Marala from the India-held Jammu (Akhnoor). It was expected to rise to 900,000 cusecs before Sunday morning.
“The next 24 hours are crucial as we expect breaches at Khanki and Qadirabad to save the two barrages as the fresh peak exceeds their design capacity. The breaches will cause massive devastation”
Yes. Why is India giving more water to the bakis than it is required under the treaty? Hain?“This situation is dangerous”
The horrifying tales of child sexual exploitation (CSE) emerging from the English town of Rotherham by men of Pakistani descent have rocked Britain. After the suppression of many reports on CSE by the authorities in Rotherham, an independent inquiry started in October 2013 has revealed that approximately 1,400 children were sexually exploited from 1997 to 2013, mainly by British citizens of Pakistani descent. The report says, “By far the majority of perpetrators were described as ‘Asian’ by victims, yet throughout the entire period, councillors did not engage directly with the Pakistani-heritage community to discuss how best they could jointly address the issue… for fear of being thought racist.” One victim told Sky News that she was sexually exploited by “hundreds” of men, and authorities did nothing to stop them. “There was a widespread perception that messages conveyed by some senior people in the Council and also the Police, were to ‘downplay’ the ethnic dimensions of CSE,” says the report. “There was too much reliance by agencies on traditional community leaders such as elected members and imams as being the primary conduit of communication with the Pakistani-heritage community. Census information from 2011 showed that Rotherham had nearly 8,000 people with Pakistani or Kashmiri ethnicity. There are eight mosques in Rotherham,” adds the report.
“One of the local Pakistani women’s groups described how Pakistani-heritage girls were targeted by taxi drivers and on occasion by older men lying in wait outside school gates at dinner times and after school. They also cited cases in Rotherham where Pakistani landlords had befriended Pakistani women and girls on their own for purposes of sex, then passed on their name to other men who had then contacted them for sex. The women and girls feared reporting such incidents to the police because it would affect their future marriage prospects.” The report quotes the UK Muslim Women’s Network study on CSE in September 2013 which drew on 35 case studies of women from across the UK who were victims, the majority of whom were Muslims. “Offending behaviour mostly involved men operating in groups… The victim was being passed around and prostituted amongst many other men… The physical abuse included oral, anal and vaginal rape; role play; insertion of objects into the vagina; severe beatings; burning with cigarettes; tying down; enacting rape that included ripping clothes off and sexual activity over the webcam.” This description mirrors the abuse committed by Pakistani-heritage perpetrators on white girls in Rotherham.
In one case a child was doused in petrol and threatened with being set afire. Children were threatened with guns, forced to witness brutally violent rapes and were threatened that they would be the next victim if they told anyone. Girls as young as 11 were raped by large numbers of males, one after the other. One child who was being prepared to give evidence received a text saying the perpetrator had her younger sister. She withdrew her statements. Another was groomed for sexual exploitation by a 27-year-old male when she was 13, and was subjected to repeated rapes and sexual assaults by different perpetrators, none of whom were brought to justice. She repeatedly threatened to kill herself and numerous instances of serious self-harm were recorded in the case file, including serious overdoses and trying to throw herself in front of cars. The attitude of the police puzzled the commission. It says, “In two of the cases we read, fathers tracked down their daughters and tried to remove them from houses where they were being abused, only to be arrested themselves when police were called to the scene. The victims were arrested for offences such as breach of the peace or with no action taken against the perpetrators of rape and sexual assault against children.” Labour MP and shadow education secretary Tristram Hunt told BBC: “This is not just taking place in Rotherham, it is taking place across cities and communities, in children’s centres, in home environments across the country.”
What I find fascinating is as follows. As a hild I used to read about technological or engineering marvels in ye olde Britische encyclopedias published before WW2 and they never had any mention of cost. It was American encyclopedias of the post ww2 era that would say "Hoover dam" - x million dolahs, "Golden gate bridge "y million dolahs", Moon shot - z zillion dolahs etc.A_Gupta wrote: I do not want to trivialize the deaths or minimize the pain and suffering of the families who lost loved ones; but just want to make the numbers comprehensible.
See here:Army Brigdr Zahoor Qadri serving in #ISI among 2 shot dead,while 6 othrs injurd when armed men stormed Darbar Astana Fazal in Sargodha Cantt
LokeshC wrote: How can Fair people be unfair hain?
The punchline has a mistake, it should have read:
"PIA never take you for granted, but we will take you for a helluva ride"
Analysts said the postponement was a setback to the Pakistan government which had offered the Chinese delegation to land in Lahore but the proposal was rejected.
The Australians are lucky that this seems to be sparsely populated area with only crocodiles lurking about as Pakistani Navy Men are criminal prone on foreign shores as was evidenced by the case with the sailor off PNS Tippu Sultan who forcibly kissed a 14 year old girl child on the mouth in New York’s Central park back in May 2005:A Pakistani man travelling on a Navy vessel that was part of war games off the coast of Darwin appears to have jumped ship and was last seen hiding in bushes on the mainland. …………….
"A backpack was found in the water which would indicate that the person leaving the ship did know what he was doing at the time and didn't simply fall off the ship," Superintendent Burgoyne said.
He said the man was spotted on the mainland in a fairly remote area by a caretaker from a local YMCA.
"He was described as skulking in the bushes, so one can work out from that, probably he didn't want to be found," Superintendent Burgoyne said.
He said the waters the man swam through to get to the mainland were known as a crocodile habitat.
"This person is probably lucky that he didn't come across one (crocodile) when he was in the water," Supt Burgoyne said. …………………
China , like the one ring of Sauron, does not like to share power. Their perfidy was magnified many times by our nincompoop response to any aggressive posture. Like jihadists, China recognises power and is likely to be a bit more despondent, if faced with a opponent who will take the fight to them. The economic turmoil within their territory is likely to manifest into a aggressive posture against weaker opponents. How long can China filibuster into making Paki jernails believe they are doing India=Bakistan?Philip wrote:It would benefit China and India too,if China "mended fences with India".
Because LaWhore is under water. Where do you land, hain? Bolo?SSridhar wrote:On Xi Jinping's cancelled visit. From The HinduAnalysts said the postponement was a setback to the Pakistan government which had offered the Chinese delegation to land in Lahore but the proposal was rejected.
"Tippu" is the former British Type 21 frigate HMS Avenger built in 1975. That's one heck of an old boat. Besides, hats off to the men in the blue for finding this guy. NYC is crawling with paki cab drivers, halal food vendors and fruit sellers.Ahmed was nabbed after a brief search. According to a report in Saturday’s New York Post, police had already been looking for Ahmed because a missing persons report had been filed on Thursday when the sailor went AWOL from his ship, the Tippu Sultan.
Does he get invites to US think tank junkets? Reason being that while it is true TSPA will be Machiavellian in dealing with US, the fact of the matter is that TSP simply cannot punch above its weight should US & China withdraw their massive support to this abomination. Now, whether or not that will solve India's TSP problem is another matter. But the fact is that TSP's 3.5 support is crucial to realizing their dreams of flying their green crescent over the red fort. A TSP expert like Tarek Fatah eloquently said that TSP is an Anglo American enterprise, while this Adhikari writing for ToILet is coy about saying this.
The other potential lever is a combined persuasive power of Washington and Beijing to force the generals’ hands. Again, it’s unlikely. Besides, given their track record, the generals will probably find ways to play one off against the other.
Read a recent book Magnificent Delusions by Husain Haqqani, a former ambassador of Pakistan to the US, for a gripping and bold account of how Pakistan’s generals stay in power and cunningly manipulate the US to their advantage. You’ll marvel at their duplicity and the gullibility of their benefactors.
Please be aware that getting your undies wet in salty crocodile infested waters does not qualify as jumping ship. If still confused, please also see: jump, ship. One does not simply go overboard with these things, there is pomp and circumstance involved in defecting.jump ship
- Lit. to leave one's job on a ship and fail to be aboard it when it sails; [for a sailor] to go AWOL. One of the deckhands jumped ship at the last port.
- Fig. to leave any post or position; to quit or resign, especially when there is difficulty with the job. None of the editors liked the new policies, so they all jumped ship as soon as other jobs opened up.
It's like the wild, wild west! Can these savages ever be civilized?arun wrote:X Posted from the "Oppression of Minorities In Pakistan" thread.
Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden sectarian violence in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan sees Mohammadden Scholar belonging to the Shia variant of Mohammaddenism, Allama Ali Akbar Kumaili, being gunned down in Karachi.
The frequency and lack of any meaningful Mohammadden outrage at the attacks by Mohammaddens on Mohammadden religious scholars clearly indicates that killing of own religious scholars is not a taboo activity in Mohammaddenism. Since I have not come across a single instance over the past decade of a Buddhist killing a Buddhist scholar, Christist killing a Christist scholar, Confucian killing a Confucian scholar, Jew killing a Jewish scholar, Jain killing a Jain scholar, Parsi killing a Parsi scholar, Sikh killing a Sikh scholar, Shinto killing a Shinto scholar or Taoist killing a Taoist scholar, for religious reasons, I have been compelled to conclude that this deviant behaviour is a uniquely Mohammadden practise:
Son of Shia scholar Abbas Kumaili gunned down in Karachi
A possible reason for their savagery?RCase wrote:^^^
What do you mean? Per PIA ad they have the unfair advantage, having learned that over 5000 years!
http://www.dawn.com/news/1130449/as-flo ... o-pakistanabhijitm wrote:Flood time in bakiland. 2010 redux?
Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi expressed anguish at the loss of lives and property caused by floods -- the worst in 60 years -- and said he was ready to provide Pakistan assistance in tackling the disaster.A report published on the Deccan Chronicle website quoted Modi as saying, "In this hour of distress, the government of India is ready to provide humanitarian assistance to those areas if the Pakistan government needs it."This humanitarian gesture by Modi comes against the backdrop of his visit to Indian-held Kashmir, following the devastation caused by massive flooding in the Jhelum river. Declaring the Jammu and Kashmir floods a "national level disaster", Modi called upon other states to pitch in with relief assistance.The Indian prime minister said Rs200,000 (Indian rupees) will be provided to the next of kin of each person whose life has been lost in the calamity and Rs50,000 would be provided to each person who is grievously injured.Landslides and flash floods triggered by heavy monsoon rains have killed nearly 300 people in large swaths of northern India and Pakistan.
The flooding has submerged villages and ruined crops with over 2,500 villages partially or completely submerged across the area, while thousands of people are stranded on rooftops waiting to be rescued.
Rescuers in both countries were using helicopters and boats to try to reach tens of thousands of people stranded in their homes as floodwaters rose and submerged many villages.More than 4,000 homes across Pakistan have collapsed, rendering thousands of people homeless.
Just as Indians never had peace with the rabid dogs, not excluding the time of partition when rabid dogs where thrown across while genocides and riots went on all over the Indian subcontinent.That is why India will never ever be at peace with these uncultured, uncivilized and rabid creatures.
Lo ji. Half the country is underwater and the other half is hunkered in expecting a Coup. IMF can cancel its loan any time and even tallel than mountain fliends dont want to visit. And they still find time to hold an anti-Israel rallyJamaat-i-Islami (JI) chief Sirajul Haq on Sunday evening said Islamabad’s attitude towards smaller provinces was posing a threat to the stability of country rather than Balochi’s, Pashtuns, Saraiki’s and Sindhi’s.
"Smaller provinces should not be ignored by Islamabad," he told flags-waving JI supporters at an anti-Israel rally in Quetta.
That's an intended riposte to Modi's offer of help. What is Pakistan if it cannot be equal to or be one up on India.
