Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct 2014

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 27 Oct 2014 20:08

Neela wrote:Dunno what you guys are talking about.
All I see is people playing catch-practice in London.

That's a Million man march? Looks like under 5000 march.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 27 Oct 2014 20:15

^^ who is that mohtarma?

habal · Post by **habal** » 27 Oct 2014 20:17

Neela wrote:Dunno what you guys are talking about.
All I see is people playing catch-practice in London.

has he applied new underarm deo that needs showing off ? What is this all about ?

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 27 Oct 2014 20:20

saravana wrote:^^ who is that mohtarma?

Sister or cousin lover

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 27 Oct 2014 20:49

SSridhar wrote:Was this reported here ?

Outrage in Pak. at Israeli cultural stall - PTI{How were the Israelis issued visa to the Fortress of Islam, the only nation founded on Islam ? Blasphemous.} [/b]

IIU, where the mighty Abdullah Azzam once taught has been blasphemed.

It wasn't an Israeli cultural stall. Nobody from Israel traveled or got a visa (not sure they can, because the country is not recognized by Pakistan and hence their passport is not recognized). It was a representation of Israel made by the talibs of the university itself as part of "Model United Nations" stalls.

And everyone got their chaddis in a twist, burned some Israel flags. Next they'll send some "non-state actors" to infiltrate the Indian stall, and train some talibs to bomb the Afghanistan stall and demand money from the American stall.

Now the dean got suspended for this.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1140673/iiui-s ... -un-fiasco

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 27 Oct 2014 21:45

A_Gupta wrote:........Karnal Bunt is already found in Pakistan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karnal_bunt...........

And they had Burnol K*nt from decades ago...

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Oct 2014 22:04

Army chief to visit U.S. next month

SLAMABAD- Army Chief, General Raheel Sharif, will visit the United States next month for talks on security and professional matters, the military said Monday.This will be Gen Sharif’s first visit to the United States as the army chief, a position he assumed on Nov 29, 2013. “The COAS (Chief of the Army Staff) will proceed for a bilateral visit to USA in Nov on invitation of the US. During the meeting the COAS will hold meetings with senior US security officials,” an army statement said. The army did not offer more comments on the visit.The visit is seen very important in view of the withdrawal of the most of the foreign troops from Afghanistan as Pakistan would be one of the major players to play role in the peace process. Reports say Gen Raheel Sharif will be paying the visit on invitation from Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen Martin Dempsey.

http://nation.com.pk/national/27-Oct-20 ... next-month

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 27 Oct 2014 22:12

Anujan wrote:
SSridhar wrote:Was this reported here ?

Outrage in Pak. at Israeli cultural stall - PTI{How were the Israelis issued visa to the Fortress of Islam, the only nation founded on Islam ? Blasphemous.} [/b]

IIU, where the mighty Abdullah Azzam once taught has been blasphemed.
It wasn't an Israeli cultural stall. Nobody from Israel traveled or got a visa (not sure they can, because the country is not recognized by Pakistan and hence their passport is not recognized). It was a representation of Israel made by the talibs of the university itself as part of "Model United Nations" stalls. And everyone got their chaddis in a twist, burned some Israel flags. Next they'll send some "non-state actors" to infiltrate the Indian stall, and train some talibs to bomb the Afghanistan stall and demand money from the American stall.

Now the dean got suspended for this.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1140673/iiui-s ... -un-fiasco

The people manning the stall have b@lls of steel. Ahem ! not the woman maybe..but still they should get bravery awards.

-M

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 27 Oct 2014 22:19

Paki unjahiliya department working overtime

WARNING: Coffee spill momemnt:
link twitter

So now the PTI-JI agreed new (old) curriculum in #KPK schools to remove all pics of girls in text books with their head uncovered #Tabdeeli

More Pakistaniyat

https://twitter.com/fifiharoon/status/5 ... 6375072768
#Tabdeeli So PTI meets its coaltion partner Jamat-e-Islamis demands to change govt school curriculum in #KPK back to 1 set in 2002 #Pakistan
..

https://twitter.com/fifiharoon/status/5 ... 1857693696
#Tabdeeli The PTI-JI coalition now has agreed to the addition of 18 Quranic verses to the grade 9 Chemistry book in #KPK #Education

..
https://twitter.com/fifiharoon/status/5 ... 7146484736
#Tabdeeli JI demanded & got from PTI exclusion of chapters on Raja Dahir and Ranjit Singh in Pakistan Studies grade 8 for KPK.
..

You can't make up this shit!

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 27 Oct 2014 22:25

Little birdie tells me Friar TuQ is traveling to londonistan to meet up with altaf bhai (just freshly divorced from PPP) tto add impetus to the revolution. We will know soon in a few weeks. AoA!!

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 27 Oct 2014 22:25

>>The PTI-JI coalition now has agreed to the addition of 18 Quranic verses to the grade 9 Chemistry book

These verses must have to do with the behaviour of Djinns in the presence of hydrogen sulphide...

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 27 Oct 2014 22:41

Anujan wrote:Little birdie tells me Friar TuQ is traveling to londonistan to meet up with altaf bhai (just freshly divorced from PPP) tto add impetus to the revolution. We will know soon in a few weeks. AoA!!

Strange irony that. Altaf in 80s was what TuQ and Immi are today. i.e. establishment propped puppets against an elected civilian government. Back then Altaf was setup to prick PPP, now it is Tuq/Immi to prick PMLN.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 27 Oct 2014 23:50

Did they bring up nooclear flashpoint Cashmere at the mock UN? What would a Paki mock UN be if they did not pass a resolution of the Kashmir issue in favor of Pakistan? Add insult to their H&D, they are making muslims to pose as Yahudis. What will happen to their deen? The dean should be fired for that.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 28 Oct 2014 00:10

RCase wrote:Did they bring up nooclear flashpoint Cashmere at the mock UN? What would a Paki mock UN be if they did not pass a resolution of the Kashmir issue in favor of Pakistan? Add insult to their H&D, they are making muslims to pose as Yahudis. What will happen to their deen? The dean should be fired for that.

Pakis defend their country from Jews much more seriously than an Indian can imagine.
'they smashed everything.'

The university said the dean of the faculty of management sciences, a student affairs adviser and a female lecturer had all been suspended over the incident.
..
"Everything was normal until students of the female wing of IJT came to our stall and accused us of supporting Zionism."

This is the level of 'model UN' exercise in Pakistan!

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 28 Oct 2014 02:19

Another anti-national Indian trying to curry favour from his Paki Masters.

Watch and see Premshankar Jha saying to Pakis that the fact of signing of instrument of ascension by Maharaja of Kashmir is not as per stated Indian claims.
He openly blames BJP Govt and says that India is at fault in creating problems for Pakistan. BJP's victory is not something that this sickular ba$tard is able to stomach.He was practically frothing at the mouth at how Modi will not be able to change anything in Kashmir.

I am pretty sure the a$$hole will very soon be a part of the Indian Track II anti-national brigade. The Pakis openly are making fun of how the "Seculars" are now regretting BJP coming to power. How it will endanger India.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 28 Oct 2014 05:09

^^Jeez, Vipul.

Dn't need to cringe at every drunkard lying wasted by the roadside.

Modisarkar has effectively neuter-alized the track II sham. And the Pakis aren't in any position to mock or dock anything.

The more the pakis and paki-pasands are ignored in the halls of power and public gaze, the better. Don't give the dolts oxygen. Who knew about PS Jha till you resurrected his aura here onBRF. His whole aim in life behind frothing like that was to get noticed. No thanks for helping his kind.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 28 Oct 2014 05:43

Hari Seldon wrote: Modisarkar has effectively neuter-alized the track II sham. And the Pakis aren't in any position to mock or dock anything.

Lets leave aside the Pakis, but how has ModiJi neutralized Track II. Somebody posted some track II sham going on even as LoC/IB was ablaze recently.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 28 Oct 2014 05:46

No need for any heartburn about Track II or Track III. I think GOI does this on purpose: Send these oiseules over to TSP. They go there and agree with everything the pakis want. Cashmere, CashMore, India Must Obey UN Resolutions, India Must Withdraw From Siachen Biss Bark, India Must Stop Phyrring across YellowSea, 700,000,350 Indian Army Must Stop Raping Kashmiri Women every day, Indian Hockey Team Must Stop Whipping Paki Team, RAW Must Stop Causing Ppl to

at MilliMoron Morcha. Agree with everything, enjoy Paki hospitality at its finest, bring back the odd message from RAA Agint in Highest pakistan in IslamaGood.

Next day, evil Modi tells BSF they can do whatever they want, go and smash another 20 terrorist camps and PA bases.

IOW, everyone but the Pakis knows that Track II ppl are RAA Agints.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 28 Oct 2014 05:47

vishvak wrote:Paki unjahiliya department working overtime

WARNING: Coffee spill momemnt:
link twitter
So now the PTI-JI agreed new (old) curriculum in #KPK schools to remove all pics of girls in text books with their head uncovered #Tabdeeli

Documented here too...
Islamic Studies Only Please
..phrase “Good morning” is now offensive ...
..inclusion of Quranic verses in chemistry, physics and biology...
... history of the people of the subcontinent starts with the Arab hero, Muhammad Bin Qasim,
.. No evolution ..

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 28 Oct 2014 05:49

How can one tell from a picture whether it is of Ayesha or of Maj. Gen. Mohammed Rashid, PA?

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 28 Oct 2014 05:53

saravana wrote:^^ who is that mohtarma?

Aseefa Zardari..Blowall's sister. The other one is no where to be seen

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 28 Oct 2014 05:57

UlanBatori wrote:No need for any heartburn about Track II or Track III. I think GOI does this on purpose: Send these oiseules over to TSP. They go there and agree with everything the pakis want. Cashmere, CashMore, India Must Obey UN Resolutions, India Must Withdraw From Siachen Biss Bark, India Must Stop Phyrring across YellowSea, 700,000,350 Indian Army Must Stop Raping Kashmiri Women every day, Indian Hockey Team Must Stop Whipping Paki Team, RAW Must Stop Causing Ppl to at MilliMoron Morcha. Agree with everything, enjoy Paki hospitality at its finest, bring back the odd message from RAA Agint in Highest pakistan in IslamaGood.

Next day, evil Modi tells BSF they can do whatever they want, go and smash another 20 terrorist camps and PA bases.

IOW, everyone but the Pakis knows that Track II ppl are RAA Agints.

er...minor correction. Its 700,000,355.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 28 Oct 2014 06:02

According to following story:

Pakistan has not yet officially congratulated India.

But
First Pakistani in space congratulates India on Mars mission

But Namira Salim, the first Pakistani explorer to reach both poles, said India’s achievement had made the region proud. (

“The success of the Mars Orbiter Mission (MOM), Mangalyaan, is a giant leap for South Asia,” said Salim, (who has booked a ticket on Richard Branson’s Virgin Galactic space project planned for 2015.)

No I am not making it up, Just becasue Namria Salim has booked a ticket on a future space ride, makes it the first "First Pakistani in space" per *many* newspapers who also mention that "Pakistan's Space program which was started about a decade before ISRO .."

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 28 Oct 2014 06:03

UlanBatori wrote:How can one tell from a picture whether it is of Ayesha or of Maj. Gen. Mohammed Rashid, PA?

Look at the color/spots of burqa.

partha · Post by **partha** » 28 Oct 2014 06:28

Hari Seldon wrote: Modisarkar has effectively neuter-alized the track II sham. And the Pakis aren't in any position to mock or dock anything.

Define "neuter-alized". By "neuter-alized" if you mean track 2 meetings have stopped completely, then no -
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 941891.cms

Alongside gunfire, India-Pakistan track-II talks continued in Dubai

If you mean Modi sarkar will not give two hoots to the "recommendations" of track 2, then yes, that might happen but it remains to be seen. I just don't want my tax money to fund nonsense like track 2/3, aman ki asha etc.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 28 Oct 2014 07:02

^^^

Oh, you mean the brown spots?

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 28 Oct 2014 07:02

I saw another shouting match on Arnab's show. One thing for sure, if it bears any repetition, TSP is really, really desperate for Kashmir, now so more than ever. I guess they were counting on MMS-MushRat 4 point formula, especially the "joint management" clause which effectively means India handing over the valley in slow motion. With taking Harried rats out of the picture, ModiJi has effectively scuttled that, and hence it seems to me all the TSP angst.

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 28 Oct 2014 07:20

CRamS wrote:Lets leave aside the Pakis, but how has ModiJi neutralized Track II. Somebody posted some track II sham going on even as LoC/IB was ablaze recently.

Vaidik issue for one..

Track II is just a a bunch of old and young coots who get together is in a circle wank. They largely consist of those who have no leverage with the present GoI, who have no say, no ability to influence policies and/or decision making.

However, these poncy gits are so full of themselves, so puffed with with imaginary self-importance and so arrogant that they'll continue to engage in these "meetings", but the GoI cares two hoots.

What these folks fear the most is a self-realisation of irrelevance and irreverence from all who matter. This is unpalatable to their handlers in the west and in the media, which is why you see Track II being referenced time and again in media reports. Which is why we see all the rona dhona in the media and cyberspace and the proliferation of Lutyens accounts on twitter. These are acts of the desperate, to cling onto some relevance and to avoid vanishing into oblivion.

They may or may not have been neutralised but they certainly have been neutered.

However, they remain dangerous. They do not care for the country, but only for themselves and will go to any lengths to protect their interests. They are desperate, stupid and immoral- a perilous combination.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 28 Oct 2014 07:32

Dont Klock if You just had food.
Baki Kaa-shmear Bolicy

sadhana · Post by **sadhana** » 28 Oct 2014 08:03

C Christine Fair at ORF, India

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrxDtncXZZg

At around 44.00 min onward she replies very bluntly to a number of questions about the reality of 'people to people' and Track II

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 28 Oct 2014 08:21

sadhana wrote:C Christine Fair at ORF, India

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrxDtncXZZg

At around 44.00 min onward she replies very bluntly to a number of questions about the reality of 'people to people' and Track II

Thanks for the hint. One moron tried to tell her that Pakis are so nice and friendly and she really ripped him a new one and taught him about "Social Desirability bias" .

I left a comment about the expression "Social Desirability bias" in which Pakis get you to meet only those people whom they want you to meet so that you go back with the impression that Pakis are inocent and friendly. The people who dont like you (about 179.99 million of them) you will never get to meet.

partha · Post by **partha** » 28 Oct 2014 08:32

^
Very nicely and patiently explained by Motorma Fair. Everybody head to 44:00.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 Oct 2014 08:48

sadhana wrote:C Christine Fair at ORF, India

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrxDtncXZZg

At around 44.00 min onward she replies very bluntly to a number of questions about the reality of 'people to people' and Track II

Very nice!

PS: this link should get you to the right point:
http://youtu.be/VrxDtncXZZg?t=45m22s

PPS: At 1:03 she tells a guy who is objecting - "you are a peacenik, aren't you, you take this seriously?" Well, some people don't want to recognize the reality of Pakistan.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 28 Oct 2014 09:06

partha wrote:^
Very nicely and patiently explained by Motorma Fair. Everybody head to 44:00.

That was a mighty sixer Fair Didi to whoever that blody dork is who said right wing Hindus will spread hatred against TSP. SSJi, as you pointed out many times, Fair didi may have her reasons for dissing TSP, but boy, she is sharp

.

On a purely rational level, I take one issue with Fair's thesis that TSP is irrational by pursuing policies that ostensibly hurt its national interests. She of course cites the growth of TTP etc and correctly argues that there would be no TTP f there were no Jaishe Mohammed.

So here is the issue. TSP does not consider that its policies are hurting their national interests. As we on BR have argued, status quo means TSP loses. There is no way, short of confrontation with India, that TSP can survive. It may not survive even after a confrontation with India. But it is banking on the possibility that India, out of fear of nuclear annihilation will make it the concessions it (TSP) badly needs to rejuvenate itself because India has much more to lose. So in this sense, is TSP not a rational selfish player, in the classic sense of game theory, i.e., pursuing a strategy that maximizes its benefit?

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 28 Oct 2014 09:24

the fellow who asked the question is a total moron who hasn't bothered to observe, read (widely) and think. Just swallowed some shite he got from the media and regurgitated. He will get invited again to Pak Track II for sure.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 Oct 2014 09:32

^^^ All I can say is that I hope the peacenik dorks who can't think for themselves or do elementary reading ("Pakistan came up with the MFN idea" - BS - it is a WTO membership requirement to grant all other WTO members MFN status) are also Macaulay's Children, so that they accept what C.C. Fair says instead of dismissing it because it doesn't agree with their ideology.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 28 Oct 2014 09:36

It occurs to me that someone who is 30 years old right now was 15 when Kargil happened, and was 5-15 years old during the peak Kashmir terrorism period. They may have very little awareness of the history the knowledge of which we older people take for granted.

I think we need to inject at every anniversary and such occasion a simple account of what happened into as much of the social media, blogsphere and media as we possibly can.

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 28 Oct 2014 09:45

CRamS wrote:
partha wrote:^

That was a mighty sixer Fair Didi to whoever that blody dork is who said right wing Hindus will spread hatred against TSP. SSJi, as you pointed out many times, Fair didi may have her reasons for dissing TSP, but boy, she is sharp .

On a purely rational level, I take one issue with Fair's thesis that TSP is irrational by pursuing policies that ostensibly hurt its national interests. She of course cites the growth of TTP etc and correctly argues that there would be no TTP f there were no Jaishe Mohammed.

So here is the issue. TSP does not consider that its policies are hurting their national interests. As we on BR have argued, status quo means TSP loses. There is no way, short of confrontation with India, that TSP can survive. It may not survive even after a confrontation with India. But it is banking on the possibility that India, out of fear of nuclear annihilation will make it the concessions it (TSP) badly needs to rejuvenate itself because India has much more to lose. So in this sense, is TSP not a rational selfish player, in the classic sense of game theory, i.e., pursuing a strategy that maximizes its benefit?

Except that confrontation with India does not maximize anything for Pakistan. All it has got so far is a rather long track of losses to show for. More appropriate term to describe Paki behavior is insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different outcome. Not going to happen.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 28 Oct 2014 09:46

Someone who is 30 years old now was 24 when Mumbai attacks happened and 22 when Mumbai trains were bombed. The enduring image from that for me would be a poor flower seller lady who had bled to death near her basket of flowers. All stained red.

People don't need an excuse to be a moron.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 28 Oct 2014 09:49

CRamS saar, at the very end UnFair did say that TSPA or was it pakistan is very rational.

@ 1:31:20 "As to whether on not India can be aggressive about Pakistan" Watch her answer that question.