Internal Security Watch

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 20 Feb 2015 19:24

http://m.ibnlive.com/news/major-lapses- ... 470-7.html

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 20 Feb 2015 19:42

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 20 Feb 2015 20:17

Cleaning the UPA leaches from within ministries will take time. Happy that Modi's government took over and doing what's best for the nation.
Seems every ministry is compromised.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 20 Feb 2015 20:26

http://www.outlookindia.com/news/articl ... DIG/882274

This CG DIG was playing politics with national security and needs to be a poster boy for "how you get your nuts stapled well after you rip it off by accident" -- joker actually admitted to being responsible for blowing up the boat...rather than keeping silent or responding with a pre-written script. It falls on him, not the govt. of the day. If people in such high positions cannot follow the chain of command and respond within bounds, they need to be out of there ASAP.

Shankk · Post by **Shankk** » 20 Feb 2015 20:28

^^^^
It's probably not limited to oil and finance related espionage. Somebody aware of this espionage is also using these useful idiots to get what they want.

Photocopies of various other documents also include one with a heading 'Brief on further opportunities in Sri Lanka dated February 4, 2015'.

I wonder what has been leaking all this long under previous government.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 20 Feb 2015 20:30

If Sonia's drones have access to these kinds of documents, what sort of access do you think foreign gov have?

Shankk · Post by **Shankk** » 20 Feb 2015 20:47

RoyG wrote:If Sonia's drones have access to these kinds of documents, what sort of access do you think foreign gov have?

You are right. With an open backdoor they had much better access to the information. Looks like they also saved for rainy days like when CONgress is not in power and made arrangements.

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 20 Feb 2015 21:08

Didnt an MoD document end up on the desk of lockheeds chief and noticed by an indian official during a meeting? Thats how porous our ministries are. (Can anyone find a link? Google isnt being cooperative)

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 20 Feb 2015 21:09

The official secrets act needs to be either completely done away and replaced or updated. How long do these people stay in prison for?

To all - Santanu Saika is a green peace activist. **hint, hint**

I think this might have been the same network which was being used by Chidambaram to spy on Pranab M. This network has access to the offices of officials. A huge sack of classified documents was found.

I think the IB have thoroughly infiltrated the group and are now going after all of them. With so many more deadly NGO's, why has the PMO gone after Green Piss with so much hatred? I think they have been working has a courier for a foreign gov and the Congress.

The rot runs deep. It is only counter intelligence and the PMO's firmness which will be able to get these b@stards.

One this is clear now, it is open season on NGO's and the queen bees drones.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 20 Feb 2015 21:16

Prasad wrote:Didnt an MoD document end up on the desk of lockheeds chief and noticed by an indian official during a meeting? Thats how porous our ministries are. (Can anyone find a link? Google isnt being cooperative)

Was that about MMRCA? link1 , link2 .

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 20 Feb 2015 21:17

http://thehoot.org/web/DovalthreatensOS ... -true.html

There was also the case of Santanu Saika, a journalist who was arrested under the OSA for publishing the contents of a cabinet note on disinvestment policy. Apparently he had been arrested in 1999 by the CBI after a failed in-house probe to find out how the note had been leaked in the first place.{Seems like the current case except that the inhouse folks were caught this time around}

Additional Judge Inder Jeet Singh at Tiz Hazari reportedly gave a very liberal interpretation to the OSA to discharge Saika even before the trial. According to a ToI report, Judge Singh held that the cabinet note accessed by Saika was unlikely to affect the sovereignty and integrity of India or the security of the state.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 20 Feb 2015 21:21

^^We'll see who all pull what all strings to rush to this turd saikia's defence now...

we'll see who all judges perform heroically liberal interpretations of statute to let turds like saikia go phree.

The keedas all crawl outta the woodwork. Excellent. The more sunlight comes in, the more the termites go into frenzy.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 21 Feb 2015 01:06

TOI exclusive on corporate espionage: What triggered the crackdown

NEW DELHI: The massive crackdown on corporate espionage in crucial ministries was the result of a four-month-long investigation conducted by the intelligence agencies at the behest of national security adviser Ajit Doval.

Doval raised an alarm over the frequent reporting of classified matters in the media. A TV channel's report saying the Prime Minister was shown images of INS Arihant, a nuclear submarine, at a DRDO function proved to be the last straw, said sources. He then asked RAW to initiate action, TOI was told.

The NSA is learnt to have written to the cabinet secretary, Ajit Kumar Seth, sometime in mid-October, saying such reports based on classified information undermined national security and were an offence under the Official Secrets Act. Doval also pointed out that most leaks came from government offices and there was a need to follow official protocol related to classified information.

Seth then took up the matter with the ministers. The probe led to the petroleum ministry where Asharam, a peon with access to petroleum minister Dharmendra Pradhan office, turned out to be one of the key men in the racket.

Ministries and other government departments were alerted and asked to beef up their security. Once the probe began, dozens of phones were officially intercepted, after clearance from the home ministry. The investigators now have about a hundred hours of recordings to back their case.

Sources said on several occasions during the past four months fake papers were made to look like important ones to fool people under suspicion and even mock conversations were carried out to ensnare suspects. When such papers were leaked, the agencies could narrow down their probe.

Finally, armed with concrete leads and evidence, the agencies briefed ministers and bureaucrats. The NSA was informed about the breakthrough and the PM given the news. Decks were then cleared for Delhi Police commissioner B S Bassi to be brought into the picture in the second week of February. The initial choice was CBI but a top home ministry official had the last word and Bassi was asked to launch the crackdown.

The commissioner discussed the issue with two special commissioners and assigned the probe to the crime branch. The agencies also handed over crucial evidence, including call detail analysis, photographs, phone numbers and addresses of the suspects to the police. The crime branch then moved in and picked up the accused.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... mesofindia

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 21 Feb 2015 01:14

The Saikia-Greenpeace link is unsubstantiated. A tweet went viral without any data to back it up with

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 21 Feb 2015 02:32

Top executives from - Mukesh-Anil Reliances, Essar, Carin, Jubilant Energy (HT owner's hubby's company) arrested

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 21 Feb 2015 06:16

Tuvaluan wrote:http://www.outlookindia.com/news/articl ... DIG/882274

This CG DIG was playing politics with national security and needs to be a poster boy for "how you get your nuts stapled well after you rip it off by accident" -- joker actually admitted to being responsible for blowing up the boat...rather than keeping silent or responding with a pre-written script. It falls on him, not the govt. of the day. If people in such high positions cannot follow the chain of command and respond within bounds, they need to be out of there ASAP.

Sorry, Tuvaluan, the only 'blowing up' there is by the DDM. What the guy did was to brag that they had 'blown off' the Pakis. Meaning, "foiled". "Blown up" as in "inflated" is something else.

Poor choice of words, but the guy is being pilloried for nothing. He merely congratulated his men for foiling a Paki terrorist scheme. It is the media that need their ***** stapled.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 21 Feb 2015 06:32

Doval ji at it again... The inside scoop on how the ministry's insider spies were snared (BTW, does this story have Doval ji's permission to air, I wonder...).

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 21 Feb 2015 07:29

Poor choice of words, but the guy is being pilloried for nothing. He merely congratulated his men for foiling a Paki terrorist scheme. It is the media that need their ***** stapled.

UBsaar, The media and UPA drones are behaving like a despicable bunch of sh**s starting with Praveen "Grandmother" Swami and his ilk. I guess he was not really politically motivated if he ended up saying something that only got him in trouble

I agree with your POV that this is just a case of bad judgement to go extempore to the UPA-friendly media which was just waiting to mess with the govt. on this non issue. On his part, the DIG showed very poor judgement in not speaking from the script that was provided to him and going "extempore" deliberately.

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 21 Feb 2015 08:45

Meanwhile in Karnataka:

http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 565_1.html

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 21 Feb 2015 08:50

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... e-matters/

What exactly are these scumbags in the INC worried about that they want to restrict the current smoking out of spies and traitors in the Indian bureaucracy?

ravip · Post by **ravip** » 21 Feb 2015 09:20

Can they be booked for raising pro paki slogans??? can suit be filed against government for failing to provide security and against organizers to claim damages?? The Popular Front of India has indulged in arson causing damage to innocent vendors on the roadside who had nothing to do with the this.

We can't just avenge our anger with some comments on the forum, we have to take it to logical end through legal process. I have brought this issue to the notice of B'Lore police on Twitter, as other concerned police have no accounts, if you know any please direct me to them.

for the millionth time, please put ONLY the video id i.e the part following "v=" inside youtube tags.

Karthik S · Post by **Karthik S** » 21 Feb 2015 09:33

ravip wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1Muw2zJm4k[/youtube]

Can they be booked for raising pro paki slogans??? can suit be filed against government for failing to provide security and against organizers to claim damages?? The Popular Front of India has indulged in arson causing damage to innocent vendors on the roadside who had nothing to do with the this.

We can't just avenge our anger with some comments on the forum, we have to take it to logical end through legal process. I have brought this issue to the notice of B'Lore police on Twitter, as other concerned police have no accounts, if you know any please direct me to them.

This is exactly my point. All the economic and military advancements don't mean anything unless we are a strong, patriotic and united society. And I don't see this being reported in any of MSM.

ravip · Post by **ravip** » 21 Feb 2015 10:19

Karthik S wrote: This is exactly my point. All the economic and military advancements don't mean anything unless we are a strong, patriotic and united society. And I don't see this being reported in any of MSM.

Its not about MSM reporting, we should create such a situation where they are forced to report.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 21 Feb 2015 10:29

The TV channel reporting on Arihant is NDTV. Its dated August 20, 2014. Can see it on google chacha.

Those two guys should be arrested for having classified material.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 21 Feb 2015 10:37

ramana wrote:The TV channel reporting on Arihant is NDTV. Its dated August 20, 2014. Can see it on google chacha.

Those two guys should be arrested for having classified material.

What about their very patriotic sources??

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 21 Feb 2015 10:42

^Start with simultaneous arrests and watch the fun. Not everyone is steel willed. Someone somewhere starts cracking and singing. Pretty such prisoners' dilemma takes over and everyone sings kumbaya together.

I do hope that all this gets appropriately 'leaked' (authorized leaks only) to the public.

Let aam public know that action is happening on corruption and selling of the country's secrets and nobody - top private honchos included - escapes this time.

Message will go loud and clear to every aam aadmi, neta, babu, journo, jholawala and dalal - past, present and wannabe - that business as usual is over. About time too.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 21 Feb 2015 10:47

One hopes and prays that the dhobis near Lootyesn get a lot of work in the coming days. May there be a lot of browned pants and slip ups by the old guard.

ravip · Post by **ravip** » 21 Feb 2015 11:38

ramana wrote:The TV channel reporting on Arihant is NDTV. Its dated August 20, 2014. Can see it on google chacha.

Those two guys should be arrested for having classified material.

The info released by NDTV including the picture was released much earlier by Suarav Jha, who obliviously got it from DRDO and Pallav Baglla of NDTV is known to be close to DRDO higher ups and most of the time he is the only media person who gets access to labs or missile launches.

Reference:
1. Saurav Jha's Article dated May 11, 2014 with same info and picture http://ibnlive.in.com/blogs/sauravjha/2 ... jects.html

2. The NDTV Article is dated August 20, 2014.

Keeping in mind these facts it is obvious that leaks happened through DRDO. May be this factor might have also played out in ousting of Avinash Chander. But there are many past instance of information leaks pertaining to INS Arihant, remember how Sandeep Unnithan of Indian Today had got a new pic of INS Arihant which was not in public domain.

I may be wrong but to just make a guesstimate on why this issue is being played out is, Is it the ego problem with PMO that media got the pics even before the PM could see it??

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 21 Feb 2015 15:06

Arihant was sailing in plain sight. The article refers to drdo showing the sub to the pm in private.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 21 Feb 2015 22:27

So this Saikia guy is connected to "Green Shanti' and AAP?
https://twitter.com/lotusprings/status/ ... 0009206786
Can any one second it?

Looks like the bigger fish are outside Bharat also who are using these rats to
gain internal sarkari info.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 21 Feb 2015 22:38

The issue in the TOI newspaper posted above is Aug 20, 2014. That is the issue at hand.
The matter is receiving classified material.

ravip · Post by **ravip** » 21 Feb 2015 22:50

ramana wrote:The issue in the TOI newspaper posted above is Aug 20, 2014. That is the issue at hand.
The matter is receiving classified material.

Whatever was reported by NDTV on Aug 20, 2014 was already in public domain, so how in the world can it be classified material. Did they get any classified material which they didn't report on the above date.

ravip · Post by **ravip** » 21 Feb 2015 23:41

http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/ ... 557636.ece

"RSS men injured as bombs exploded from their hands while returning after throwing bombs on policemen.”

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 21 Feb 2015 23:51

ravip wrote:
ramana wrote:The issue in the TOI newspaper posted above is Aug 20, 2014. That is the issue at hand.
The matter is receiving classified material.
Whatever was reported by NDTV on Aug 20, 2014 was already in public domain, so how in the world can it be classified material. Did they get any classified material which they didn't report on the above date.

Yes, I believe that the channel was Aajtak not NDTV. Not only did they leak info about the Arihant but also Ironically a confidential letter (from Ajit Doval I think) flagging the issue of leaks of confidential material.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 22 Feb 2015 11:39

The fraud has been exposed:
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1150222/j ... Ol1q3zF8hs

See the similarity with tejpal guy.....

Arunkumar · Post by **Arunkumar** » 22 Feb 2015 12:08

Kati wrote:The fraud has been exposed:
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1150222/j ... Ol1q3zF8hs

See the similarity with tejpal guy.....

Thanks for the article. So pachauri is the supremo of TERI (The energy research institute). TERI has a branch in Indiranagar, BLR where yogendra yadav of AAP had given a lecture few months. The secular crowd seems to be all inter-connected.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 22 Feb 2015 13:52

An MP, elected under TMC symbol, & taking an oath under the constitution of India asks to make two Bengals united.
http://surmatimes.com/2015/02/21/15354.aspx/

Real goal for which TMC was brought into power. Hilary, Sugta Bose all American connections becoming clearer now.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 22 Feb 2015 13:59

gandharva wrote:Finally, armed with concrete leads and evidence, the agencies briefed ministers and bureaucrats. The NSA was informed about the breakthrough and the PM given the news. Decks were then cleared for Delhi Police commissioner B S Bassi to be brought into the picture in the second week of February. The initial choice was CBI but a top home ministry official had the last word and Bassi was asked to launch the crackdown.

Looks like a classic "intelligence operation". The ground work and all pain staking observations, collection of evidence done by folks like the IB. And then when it is time to make the arrests like a "faceless organisation" they get the Delhi Police Crime Branch to do that part of the job. So if my understanding is right, the interrogation also would be done by the Intelligence agencies. The media may have let out the names of the officers from Delhi Police who are actually "seen" making the various moves, but the actual job may be done by unidentified folks

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ravip wrote:Its not about MSM reporting, we should create such a situation where they are forced to report.

Shivamogga continues to be tense
Even the Chindu is forced to report that VHP/BJP led bandh has been very effective - i.e people supported it. Let me double check, there is also another report in which Chindu says PFI traitors did raise pro-Pak slogans.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 22 Feb 2015 14:41

spot on sachin saar.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 22 Feb 2015 17:04

Prices have gone up since the Morarji Whisky Cabinet days, hain?

INR 20K per photocopy! That's nearly $300! A bottle of Johny Walker doesn't cost THAT much, does it?
If this keeps up the Indian Real Estate sector will collapse, and so will the Phoren Trabhel junket industry. Stock market may crash if Reliance is not able to get Relia-ble inside info.