Singha wrote: what does the SAP14 do the TX pod of the SA-518 does not?
getting 4 of these "sets" into every Su30 squadron could be a relatively cheap but wise investment if no special cockpit mods are needed.
playing havoc with enemy targeting systems with softkills like these may not be sexy but underpins the survivability of american strike assets in any of their colonial wars. amirkhan a/c are almost never "bounced" in ambush attacks or enter a fight with poor SA or numbers.
Shaun wrote:Those pods are indeed huge and wont be standard fitment for all a/c . How many "Growlerski" configured a/c we have ??
and can a single a/c configured with SA-518 send jamming signal to multiple platforms ???
First, these pods will be standard fitment for all a/c if the mission profile calls for jamming (most will) for A2A threats expected. These pods are SPJs. 6-18 GHz designed for X Band FCR and for missile seekers.
The SAP-14 pod is a support jammer for SAM radars. That may be used only in high threat zones - we have no confirmation IAF purchased this, but its likely it will/would have, given integrating non Russian, western/israeli jammers into the Su-30 MKI avionics is an issue.
Austin wrote:..It huge because half of it is empty and cater for future growth potential.
When I asked the DARE guy why is the Siva pod so huge , he told me the same thing that more than half of it is empty and they need to factor into future potential growth area into this pod.
The SAP-518 is also huge because it is stated to be a derivative (modernized variant of the L005S) which is basically a phased array system. Check out the antenna.
The KNIRTI L005S Sorbtsiya-S mid/high band defensive jammer is carried in wingtip pods. Unlike competing Western designs, this system uses a steerable mainlobe to maximise the Jam/Signal ratio at the threat emitter. The design uses a wideband phased array and dielectric lens arrangement (KNIRTI).
KNIRTI makes the SAP-518 and SAP-14 now.
Newer Flankers carry the podded wingtip mounted KNIRTI SPS-171 / L005S Sorbtsiya-S mid/high band defensive jammer (ECM), this system being an evolution of a jammer developed for the Backfire C. The Sorbtsiya-S, unlike most Western jamming pods, is designed to operate in pairs and uses forward and aft looking steerable wideband phased arrays to maximise jamming effect, a similar arrangement to the Eurofighter Typhoon EWSP package. It is worth observing that the Sorbtsiya is clearly built to provide cross-eye jamming modes against monopulse threats, and the wideband mainlobe steering capability provided by the phased array permits best possible utilisation of available jamming power. A graded dielectric lens is employed. Russian contractors have been recently using Digital RF Memory (DRFM) technology, which is of the same generation as the US IDECM EWSP, and competing Israeli systems.
The most recent defensive jamming equipment to be offered on Flanker variants is the new KNIRTI SAP-518 wingtip jamming pod, displayed at MAKS 2009. Concurrently KNIRTI displayed a high power support jamming pod, the SAP-14, intended for centreline carriage on a large pylon. To date little has been disclosed on these pod designs, which are likely to retain the wideband phased array / lens antenna system first used on the Sorbstiya.
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Flanker.html
Also
Newer Flankers carry the podded wingtip mounted KNIRTI SPS-171 / L005S Sorbtsiya-S mid/high band defensive jammer (ECM), this system being an evolution of a jammer developed for the Backfire C. The Sorbtsiya-S, unlike most Western jamming pods, is designed to operate in pairs and uses forward and aft looking steerable wideband phased arrays to maximise jamming effect, a similar arrangement to the Eurofighter Typhoon EWSP package. It is worth observing that the Sorbtsiya is clearly built to provide cross-eye jamming modes against monopulse threats, and the wideband mainlobe steering capability provided by the phased array permits best possible utilisation of available jamming power. A graded dielectric lens is employed. Russian contractors have been recently using Digital RF Memory (DRFM) technology, which is of the same generation as the US IDECM EWSP, and competing Israeli systems.
The most recent defensive jamming equipment to be offered on Flanker variants is the new KNIRTI SAP-518 wingtip jamming pod, displayed at MAKS 2009. Concurrently KNIRTI displayed a high power support jamming pod, the SAP-14, intended for centreline carriage on a large pylon. To date little has been disclosed on these pod designs, which are likely to retain the wideband phased array / lens antenna system first used on the Sorbstiya.
Basically SAP-518 = Sorbstiya with modern processing, lighter electronics and DRFM and new architecture to make use of DRFM.
Otherwise no need to retain the original 2 pod design.
And guess what configuration HAL tested for Brahmos?
http://www.oneindia.com/india/hal-condu ... 50389.html
The tests were carried out for nine configurations, including clean configuration, with bombs (2 tons) at station 1 & 2 (centerline of the aircraft), with BrahMos missile at the newly-developed station 13, R-27 missiles at station 3-6, R-73 missiles at station 7-10 and SAP518 pod (ECM jamming pod) at station 11-12. "The preliminary results show good agreement between natural frequencies of clean aircraft and design values. These are ongoing tests and are complex in nature. Multiple agencies are involved in the project and we are confident of achieving the tasks within the set targets," Tyagi said. The National Aerospace Laboratories too recently conducted extensive wind tunnel experiments (separation tests) to monitor the health of the aircraft, after BrahMos missile is released.
Read more at:
http://www.oneindia.com/india/hal-condu ... 50389.html
Su-30 at HAL
Clearly, this is a IAF representative config. Also, note no R-77s.
IMO the IAF will integrate Astra's and if integration is possible, Derby-ERs. The Russians will be unhappy with latter and will push for RVV-SD.
