Understanding the United States of America (USA) - III

Rammpal · Post by **Rammpal** » 30 Oct 2016 07:30

http://www.fury.news/2016/10/anonymous- ... ma-abedin/

"..Huma’s middle-east connections surpass even Hillary’s..."!

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 30 Oct 2016 09:03

Now Huma has amnesia, cannot recall how those emails got onto her Ex-husband's (or is still husband?) server/laptop.

I think we should get rid of these yahoos and start all over again, with these two candidates.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 30 Oct 2016 10:15

NRao-ji,

The good thing is that Huma Abedin may be removed from the Clinton team as an advisor and potential cabinet official. At least we hope so to somewhat reduce the Sunni pro-Paki influence. Let's see if HRC throws her under the bus.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 30 Oct 2016 16:01

NRao wrote:Now Huma has amnesia, cannot recall how those emails got onto her Ex-husband's (or is still husband?) server/laptop.

I think we should get rid of these yahoos and start all over again, with these two candidates.

Hector Morenco ‏@hectormorenco 5h5 hours ago
Soon the world will discover HRC & Obama are at the center of the Syrian conflict, profited from the Clinton foundation, & ignored ISIS.

Hector Morenco ‏@hectormorenco 5h5 hours ago
Quatar & Saudis donated to the Clinton foundation while HRC was Sec. State. In exchange for the donations, the CIA was sent to Syria (2011).

Hector Morenco ‏@hectormorenco 5h5 hours ago
CIA was behind a staged Arab spring uprising to attempt to topple Assad, because he was blocking the Quatar/Turkey pipeline plan.

Hector Morenco ‏@hectormorenco 5h5 hours ago
ISIS formed by accident, and spiraled out of control but also provided cover for the Obama/HRC agenda of laudering bribes for the pipeline.

Hector Morenco ‏@hectormorenco 5h5 hours ago
Emails on HRC's private server confirm these tragic events, and Obama & HRC thought they could pardon eachother after the election.

Hector Morenco ‏@hectormorenco 5h5 hours ago
Little did Obama/HRC realize that an auto-sync feature between Huma & Weiner inadvertently saved the deleted emails on Weiner's machine.

Hector Morenco ‏@hectormorenco 5h5 hours ago
Russia also cut a deal with Assad to allow an alternative Iran pipeline to go through Syria in exchange for favorable OPEC votes & cash.

Hector Morenco ‏@hectormorenco 5h5 hours ago
The cash payments from Iran were actually wealth transfers from Obama>>Iran>>Russia. Obama got pissed that the Iranian money went to Russia.

Hector Morenco ‏@hectormorenco 5h5 hours ago
The Democrats were so irritated for being played by the Iranians and Russians that they now want to reignite the cold war against Russia.

Hector Morenco ‏@hectormorenco 5h5 hours ago
These bombshells will be confirmed by Wikileaks/Dikileaks soon, but maybe not before the election. The volume of hacked material is massive.

Hector Morenco ‏@hectormorenco 5h5 hours ago
If HRC wins then Obama & the Clinton's will pull off the largest heist in the history of the world. That's how important this election is.

Hector Morenco ‏@hectormorenco 5h5 hours ago
This high level heist leaving millions dead is also why HRC wants to assasinate Assange & why Obama sent Kerry to Ecuador. Now its too late.

not sure how much of its true but some pointers.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 30 Oct 2016 16:11

The world seems totally absorbed by conspiracy theories these days...

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Oct 2016 16:12

deep state hedging bets or doing taqiya until the election?

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-cold-cl ... 1477608696

The Cold Clinton Reality
Why isn’t the IRS investigating the Clinton Foundation?

Main Street Columnist Bill McGurn on how the former president used his foundation as a vehicle for personal enrichment. Photo credit: Zuma Press.
Oct. 27, 2016 6:51 p.m. ET
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Hillary and Bill Clinton are asking for a third term in the White House, and voters who want to know what this portends should examine the 12-page memo written by a Clinton insider that was hacked and published Wednesday by WikiLeaks. This is the cold, hard reality of the Clinton political-business model.

Longtime Clinton aide Doug Band wrote the memo in 2011 to justify himself to lawyers at Simpson, Thacher & Bartlett who were reviewing his role and conducting a governance review of the Clinton Foundation at the insistence of Chelsea Clinton. In an email two weeks earlier, also published on WikiLeaks, Ms. Clinton said her father had been told that Mr. Band’s firm Teneo was “hustling” business at the Clinton Global Initiative, a regular gathering of the wealthy and powerful that is ostensibly about charitable activity.

Poor innocent Chelsea. Bill and Hillary must never have told her what business they’re in. If she had known, she would never have hired a blue-chip law firm to sweep through the hallways of the Clinton Foundation searching for conflicts of interest. Instead of questioning Mr. Band’s compensation, she would have pleaded with him never to reveal the particulars of his job in writing.

But she didn’t, and so Mr. Band went ahead and described the “unorthodox nature” of his work while emphasizing his determination to help “protect the 501(c)3 status of the Foundation.” That’s the part of the tax code that has allowed the Clinton Foundation to remain tax-exempt on the premise that it is dedicated to serving humanity.

Mr. Band graciously copied John Podesta, then adviser to the board, who would eventually become Hillary’s campaign chief. His helpful reply was to suggest that Mr. Band “strip the defensive stuff out” and later “go through the details and how they have helped WJC” [ William Jefferson Clinton].

The Band memo reveals exactly what critics of the Clintons have long said: They make little distinction between the private and public aspects of their lives, between the pursuit of personal enrichment, the operation of a nonprofit, and participation in U.S. politics.

Mr. Band writes that he and his colleague Justin Cooper “have, for the past ten years, served as the primary contact and point of management for President Clinton’s activities—which span from political activity (e.g., campaigning on behalf of candidates for elected office), to business activity (e.g., providing advisory services to business entities with which he has a consulting arrangement), to Foundation activity.”

This excerpt and all the potential conflicts it describes, plus Chelsea’s warning about business “hustling” at foundation events, would seem more than ample cause to trigger an IRS audit of the foundation. For that matter, why aren’t the IRS and prosecutors already on the case? Any normal foundation has to keep records to show it is separating its nonprofit activity from any for-profit business.

Mr. Band’s memo confirms that donors were not seeking merely to help the sick and the poor. He explains that the Clinton Foundation had “engaged an array of fundraising consultants” over the past decade but “these engagements have not resulted in significant new dollars for the Foundation.” In other words, it wasn’t working as a conventional charity.

Mr. Band then explains how he and his Teneo partner Declan Kelly had to carry the fundraising load, and did so by packaging foundation solicitations with other services such as a meeting with Bill Clinton, $450,000 speeches or strategic advice. Many of the donations, from U.S. companies like Coca-Cola and Dow Chemical and foreign firms like UBS and Barclays, occurred while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State.

Why exactly were donors writing checks? The Band memo makes clear that donations untied to additional Clinton or Teneo services weren’t all that appealing to potential supporters. This is significant, because the large grant-making foundations in the U.S. are almost entirely run by Clinton voters. So you know they weren’t turned off by the brand name. They’d contribute more if they thought they were also buying goodwill and influence with a current Secretary of State and a potential future President.

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We don’t applaud WikiLeaks or the theft of information, and these hacks deserve a firm U.S. government response. But the emails are public and they will confirm for many Americans their worst suspicions about the people who run their government.

It’s also worth noting that in the vast digital trove of Mr. Podesta’s stolen emails we haven’t noticed emails from Mrs. Clinton. Perhaps they don’t exist. But American voters shouldn’t worry merely about the emails released before the election. What emails or memos exist that these hackers, Russian or not, could be withholding for leverage after the election with another President Clinton?

The Clinton campaign has suggested that Donald Trump has praised Vladimir Putin because the Russian has something on the Republican. The question is what do any number of possible bad actors know about Bill and Hillary Clinton’s mixing of business, charity and politics?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Oct 2016 16:16

comments pretty scathing on that WSJ article

VERONIKA SPIEGEL
VERONIKA SPIEGEL 9 hours ago
@Zack Sprack Face the fact's Zack. The Clintons are pure evil. They care not for anyone or anything other than enriching themselves with power and money. Trump, on the other hand is a hoot. Perhaps not the sharpest political tool in Washington but thats his attraction. His heart is in the right place, whilst the Clintons have no heart. They are merciless opportunists running a criminal enterprise who would sell America given the chance.

The Prince with no clothes has now been called.

Dont be the last to acknowledge the "The Clintons are Criminals" when the media will have no choice but report the news as it unfolds.

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They are trailer trash, pure and simple, in all aspects of their lives. Bill desecrated the Oval Office, lied to the American people, was impeached and disbarred. He paid a bunch of money for his dalliances and, if he had any breeding, would hide his face in the backwoods of Arkansas. Instead, the Democratic Party looks to him as their spiritual leader. She's no better. What an embarrassment for our country.

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@David Oetting Hay watch your language. Trailer trash are only the women who accused Bill of sexual advances. That is what Hillary allies called these women. How dare you call the democrat royalty any name but his and her royal highness.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Oct 2016 16:17

Maam is probably too big to be let fail, but a bali has to given to the gods of public outrage , a token of atonement and penance...

hopefully its her pakpasand adviser...

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 30 Oct 2016 16:34

Lalmohan wrote:The world seems totally absorbed by conspiracy theories these days...

AoA! When a company owner gives $31.3M to a political foundation, that is not "theory". It is "Conspiracy" all right, hain?

brar_w · Post by **brar_w** » 30 Oct 2016 16:36

Mort Walker wrote:NRao-ji,

The good thing is that Huma Abedin may be removed from the Clinton team as an advisor and potential cabinet official. At least we hope so to somewhat reduce the Sunni pro-Paki influence. Let's see if HRC throws her under the bus.

There is/was really no shot for her to be a part of the cabinet anyway given the importance and qualifications usually required for that role.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/cabinet

I really hope that the next major party nominee really requires something like 20-30 million votes to secure the nomination. That and the GOP brings back the super-delegates. That's the only way to avoid another bad choice 4 years from now. Come to think of it, even a dangerous and obnoxious Ted Cruz could have won (could you imagine that) over HRC. A John Kasich, Marco Rubio or even a Jeb Bush would be polling ahead by at least 5-10%.

One fallout of the Comey letter is that we'll probably also know what the FBI is doing vis-a-vis any investigation into Trump or Trump's current and ex advisors. The Feds had denied information on this based on the 60 day election tradition. Another positive would be that the Republicans may have a better shot at holding, or at the very least narrowing down the senate lead. I full expect Trump to rescue HRC again over the next 4-5 days. He released his final week campaigning roster and is campaigning in Michigan and New Mexico where he has little to no shot of winning. It also says volumes when just a few weeks prior to the election the GOP nominee's most influential surrogate (VP nominee) is campaigning in Utah, and the nominee himself is in Arizona.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 30 Oct 2016 16:55

From WSJ:

Why exactly were donors writing checks? The Band memo makes clear that donations untied to additional Clinton or Teneo services weren’t all that appealing to potential supporters. This is significant, because the large grant-making foundations in the U.S. are almost entirely run by Clinton voters. So you know they weren’t turned off by the brand name. They’d contribute more if they thought they were also buying goodwill and influence with a current Secretary of State and a potential future President.

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We don’t applaud WikiLeaks or the theft of information, and these hacks deserve a firm U.S. government response. {WSJ showing why they are Democrat rear-ends: the **ONLY*** reason why these facts are public is because of Wikileaks, not these sorry excuses for Journalism} But the emails are public and they will confirm for many Americans their worst suspicions about the people who run their government.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 30 Oct 2016 16:59

There is/was really no shot for her to be a part of the cabinet anyway given the importance and qualifications usually required for that role.

That's a GOOD ONE, Brarji.

Check out Ed Meese (pbuh) Attorney-Jarnail of the USA.
Or Michael Brown the Head (more aptly called the Horse's Donkey) of FEMA under Dubya.

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 30 Oct 2016 17:00

that vain, imperious woman may wind up losing the election. simply incredible..........

the secret service hates her. she was rude and abusive to the uniformed secret service guards at the white house. i've known about this for years.

all she had to do was be a little humble and follow the stinking rules and she would indeed have been 50 points ahead of the spoiled rich (old)kid.

the DoJ has been corrupted. Obama needs to answer for that.

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 30 Oct 2016 17:18

the fact that huma abedin had clinton's emails on weiners laptop makes a mockery of our country's security and shows where powerful people are contemptuous of our nation.

they are power mad globalists and have no real love for America.

it is an addicting elixir to them

they identify by money, sexual predilection and ethnicity and not nation. dangerous beyond belief..........

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 30 Oct 2016 17:31

brar_w wrote:
Mort Walker wrote:NRao-ji,

The good thing is that Huma Abedin may be removed from the Clinton team as an advisor and potential cabinet official. At least we hope so to somewhat reduce the Sunni pro-Paki influence. Let's see if HRC throws her under the bus.
There is/was really no shot for her to be a part of the cabinet anyway given the importance and qualifications usually required for that role.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/cabinet

I really hope that the next major party nominee really requires something like 20-30 million votes to secure the nomination. That and the GOP brings back the super-delegates. That's the only way to avoid another bad choice 4 years from now. Come to think of it, even a dangerous and obnoxious Ted Cruz could have won (could you imagine that) over HRC. A John Kasich, Marco Rubio or even a Jeb Bush would be polling ahead by at least 5-10%.

One fallout of the Comey letter is that we'll probably also know what the FBI is doing vis-a-vis any investigation into Trump or Trump's current and ex advisors. The Feds had denied information on this based on the 60 day election tradition. Another positive would be that the Republicans may have a better shot at holding, or at the very least narrowing down the senate lead. I full expect Trump to rescue HRC again over the next 4-5 days. He released his final week campaigning roster and is campaigning in Michigan and New Mexico where he has little to no shot of winning. It also says volumes when just a few weeks prior to the election the GOP nominee's most influential surrogate (VP nominee) is campaigning in Utah, and the nominee himself is in Arizona.

The notion that "A John Kasich, Marco Rubio or even a Jeb Bush would be polling ahead by at least 5-10%." is very wrong.

No matter who is Republican nominee, media figures out a way to demonize him, make him look like a rascal, thief, racist, nazi, fascist, feminazi out to destroy US and will take US back to 19th century pre civil war apartheid/slave regime.

Follow McCain,Romney demolition by DNC & media together as a team. After Bush, I waist Obama camp and kind of accepted it first time happily. Then they did same to Romney. I knew Romney very well as he was a Governor and he was one of the decent people around. But it does not matter. He was anti-women, rich,spoiled filthy man who has to be destroyed because he ran against Obama.

I understood the operation. The Indian media using same tactics of lies,slander, propaganda against Modi. Sang, RSS, Hindu fundamentalist, Sanghi are the terms coined mostly by PRESSTITUTES working for the corrupt left forces and actually lapped up gladly by international media too.

It is a war on you if you ever oppose a left candidate. You are with them or you are against them. You are a racist, thug, anti-feminist, evil, dark force, upper caste or every thing evil if you oppose them.

The sooner we realize, the better it is. It does not mean you oppose a decent Democratic candidate but just don't trust the establishment and media.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 30 Oct 2016 17:36

TSJones wrote:that vain, imperious woman may wind up losing the election. simply incredible..........

the secret service hates her. she was rude and abusive to the uniformed secret service guards at the white house. i've known about this for years.

all she had to do was be a little humble and follow the stinking rules and she would indeed have been 50 points ahead of the spoiled rich (old)kid.

the DoJ has been corrupted. Obama needs to answer for that.

If you follow rules, how can you raise hundreds of millions every year from every freaking country in the world?

The only surprising thing is why did she have to come back to become President? The family has been making millions in foundation. Why even bother?

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 30 Oct 2016 17:49

$500,000 per speech!!! PLUS all the Imperial-scale expenses. If that is not bribery and money-laundering.....

Indian scammers like 2G-Raju, Satyam etc can't hold a candle to these Klintons.

brar_w · Post by **brar_w** » 30 Oct 2016 18:02

The notion that "A John Kasich, Marco Rubio or even a Jeb Bush would be polling ahead by at least 5-10%." is very wrong.

As was discussed earlier as well, there are plenty of right of center, and openly conservative media houses and publications. The problem with Trump is simple, its his abysmal polling with minorities, and polling a few percentage points below Romney when it comes to coalescing the GOP vote.Add to all this his general tendency to screw up the best of positions, and the extremely poor general election campaign strategy and you get where he is. I know of plenty of Fox News watching republican leaning folks that aren't voting for him and would have voted for practically anyone else their party put forward.

Given the dislike folks have for HRC, her being by the most disliked major party nominee possibly EVER (if we took out Trump), even someone with Romney numbers could easily coast to a victory. Trump is not going to be anywhere near those outside of the non-college educated white vote.

In 2012, Romney got 47% of the popular vote to Obama's 51%. 47-49% this time around will probably be enough to win given that there is a serious threat of a state going independent, and most expect a relatively high vote share for the three other candidates. Neither Romney, nor McCain, or the GW for that matter had (as in the polls dictated they did) to (them or their VP) campaign in Utah or Arizona just a couple of weeks before their campaign..Similarly, take a look at Texas numbers and try to find a GOP nominee in recent history that polled so badly there. Even Georgia is more competitive than it would have been had the GOP nominated anyone besides Trump.

As other's have commented as well, he got 13 million votes in the primaries and that is probably under 10% of the expected voter turn out in the General. He should have taken many of those 13 million for granted and developed a strategy to align disgruntled GOP voters that were supporting other candidates, and opened up to bring in millions of others. He did neither of those things and doubled down on his base. This is an incumbent white house, where the Dems are fielding a nominee that is essentially asking for 4 more years, and on top of that has abysmal likability and trustworthiness..any other candidate would have easily coasted past given those odds.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 30 Oct 2016 18:45

I am not a US Citizen so can not claim to know any candidate there. But anyone who contests against HC will be a demon as per the media and almost all the media, as a rule, is leftist. This is a worldwide fact. Yes, there are some exceptions in the UK, etc. But that is what they are. Exceptions. DT and earlier the Tea Party gangs came as a reaction to the leftist agenda setting. It is ugly, but primarily a reactionary thing.

While DT gave them a lot of scopes to attack, any other candidate would have also been attacked by something or another. If someone thinks that a "community organiser" is the best thing happened in the last few decades because he is half black, then we can not expect such people to listen to reason.

brar_w · Post by **brar_w** » 30 Oct 2016 18:56

But anyone who contests against HC will be a demon as per the media and almost all the media, as a rule, is leftist.

Again, what is this 'almost all the media'?. Do take a look at what dominates the TV News as far as the cable coverage in the US, which shows top the TV viewership numbers, how much audience the top Talk Radio News/Commentators have and what political leanings they have. Similarly look at the conservative or conservative leaning print media outlets such as the NI, WS, WSJ, Hill, CSM and others. Then have a look at the digital media space and see where Drudge and Breitbart stand as far as online viewership is concerned.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7243&start=280#p2057498

Republican candidates running for the WH, senate or the Congress have had to deal with the liberal media, just as those running on the left have had to contend with the Bill O O'Reilly's, Hannity's, and Rush Limbaugh's of the world. The problem with Trump is just not the liberal media, but the conservative leaning media that has deserted him just as many solid republican voters have.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 30 Oct 2016 19:05

He is not an official candidate. So he has to be opposed. Conservatives may be too rigid in what they support. Left on the other side seems to support HC no matter what. Look what E. Warren lady or Burnee doing. They do not agree with HC on almost all the things, but they end up supporting her. They would have done so against any demon from GOP.

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 30 Oct 2016 19:07

The only surprising thing is why did she have to come back to become President? The family has been making millions in foundation. Why even bother?

instead of just wanting to be president for the good of the country, she wanted to the first WOMAN US president in history.

brar_w · Post by **brar_w** » 30 Oct 2016 19:09

He is not an official candidate. So he has to be opposed.

Yeah that's the reason why. He as a person, his campaign, his policy proposals and his rhetoric has absolutely nothing to do with it

Conservatives may be too rigid in what they support.

That has nothing to do with the conservative POV not reaching out to tens of millions of people that tune in every sing day to watch the folks listed in the link above. That is also the media. You personally may not watch it every day, but just dig up the number of people that tune into all of these things every week i.e FNC numbers, individual FNC commentator's prime-time numbers, Talk Radio #'s and online viewership for outlets like the NI, WS, Drudge, Breitbart, Hill, CSM.

Left on the other side seems to support HC no matter what.

All that points to two things -

- The left, including the left-leaning media coalescing around their party's nominee
- Trump failing to do what it takes to get his own party, and many conservatives on his side. Besides going against the grain of many conersvative thinkers and ideologues, he is also deeply flawed and many probably suspect him of being a Clinton plant ( you know the same Clinton whom he had claimed was a good SecState just a couple of years ago).

On top of that he has picked a fight with and continued to attack conservatives and GOP'ers even after it made no sense to do so. John McCain, and Mitt Romney both brought disgruntled conservatives around after they secured the nomination. Trump hasn't.

One can find excuses for all this but the bottom line is that Trump is a deeply flawed candidate and the only reason he still is out there winning some of the solid RED states is because the democrats have fielded an extremely poor candidate. Utah and Arizona may prove tough to hold this time around though. And this is who was boasting of bringing WA and CA into play

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 30 Oct 2016 19:17

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -them.html

Lying under oath. Sounds familiar.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 30 Oct 2016 19:25

TSJones wrote:that vain, imperious woman may wind up losing the election. simply incredible..........

the secret service hates her. she was rude and abusive to the uniformed secret service guards at the white house. i've known about this for years.

all she had to do was be a little humble and follow the stinking rules and she would indeed have been 50 points ahead of the spoiled rich (old)kid.

the DoJ has been corrupted. Obama needs to answer for that.

The FBI has become politicized much the same way in India the CBI has become politicized and could no longer conduct impartial criminal investigations. The result in India is that we now have the NIA (National Investigation Agency) created in 2008 after the Mumbai attack.

What is happening now in the US has many parallels to what has happened in India. Hillary Clinton == Sonia Gandhi. Just as in India there is a lot of inertia to vote Congress on reflex, the same is in the US to vote Democrat on reflex. People need to pause and look at the situation impartially.

brar_w · Post by **brar_w** » 30 Oct 2016 19:59

What is happening now in the US has many parallels to what has happened in India. Hillary Clinton == Sonia Gandhi.

I guess folks see what they want to see but Sonia Gandhi was up against someone with a proven track record of governance and an unpopular status quo administration at a time when people wanted change. HRC is up against Trump who is no Modi! Moreover, have a look at BO's gallup track on job approval rating since Trump entered the picture.

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TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 30 Oct 2016 20:08

obama has not only corrupted the DOJ but help destroy the public school system by making it harder to kick out young thugs.

nobody wants to send their kids to a school that is not safe.

and oh btw, colleges and universities have to file a Clery report ever year that is available to each parent.

the public school system should have to do the same but hide it under "protecting juveniles privacy".

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 30 Oct 2016 20:49

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 30 Oct 2016 21:00

TSJones wrote:obama has not only corrupted the DOJ but help destroy the public school system by making it harder to kick out young thugs.

nobody wants to send their kids to a school that is not safe.

and oh btw, colleges and universities have to file a Clery report ever year that is available to each parent.

the public school system should have to do the same but hide it under "protecting juveniles privacy".

Well, that is good old American racism at work. After "zero tolerance" was put in place after Columbine (the Columbine school shooting took place in 1999) student suspension rates shot up -- for black students. Obama merely tried to reverse that trend.

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 30 Oct 2016 21:06

A_Gupta wrote:
TSJones wrote:obama has not only corrupted the DOJ but help destroy the public school system by making it harder to kick out young thugs.

nobody wants to send their kids to a school that is not safe.

and oh btw, colleges and universities have to file a Clery report ever year that is available to each parent.

the public school system should have to do the same but hide it under "protecting juveniles privacy".
Well, that is good old American racism at work. After "zero tolerance" was put in place after Columbine (the Columbine school shooting took place in 1999) student suspension rates shot up -- for black students. Obama merely tried to reverse that trend.

I went to 5 different high schools before I graduated as my family followed Nasa Apollo program from city to city.

Nowhere did I ever see a fist fight melee in the hall way or classroom or a student hit a teacher. it happens often nowdays.

get. thugs. out of. our. schools.

by keeping thugs in school you are destroying the trust in pubic education and further driving people of good will (both white and of color) from the school system

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 30 Oct 2016 21:08

brar_w wrote:
What is happening now in the US has many parallels to what has happened in India. Hillary Clinton == Sonia Gandhi.
I guess folks see what they want to see but Sonia Gandhi was up against someone with a proven track record of governance and an unpopular status quo administration at a time when people wanted change. HRC is up against Trump who is no Modi! Moreover, have a look at BO's gallup track on job approval rating since Trump entered the picture.

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I never compared Trump to Modi. That is your imagination. The corruption parallels to Sonia and Hillary are valid. There are many parallels between the US and India, but they aren't 100%.

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 30 Oct 2016 21:10

After going to Mandir, first thing I am going to do on this auspicious day is to go and cast my vote against HRC.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 30 Oct 2016 21:10

TSJones wrote:obama has not only corrupted the DOJ but help destroy the public school system by making it harder to kick out young thugs.

nobody wants to send their kids to a school that is not safe.

and oh btw, colleges and universities have to file a Clery report ever year that is available to each parent.

the public school system should have to do the same but hide it under "protecting juveniles privacy".

That's an issue states can handle. Basically by economic segregation.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 30 Oct 2016 21:36

FYI, some school discipline data:
http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d14/ ... urrent=yes

Hitesh · Post by **Hitesh** » 30 Oct 2016 21:39

TSJones wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:
Well, that is good old American racism at work. After "zero tolerance" was put in place after Columbine (the Columbine school shooting took place in 1999) student suspension rates shot up -- for black students. Obama merely tried to reverse that trend.
I went to 5 different high schools before I graduated as my family followed Nasa Apollo program from city to city.

Nowhere did I ever see a fist fight melee in the hall way or classroom or a student hit a teacher. it happens often nowdays.

get. thugs. out of. our. schools.

by keeping thugs in school you are destroying the trust in pubic education and further driving people of good will (both white and of color) from the school system

The problem you just described cannot be attributed to Obama for the problem was already existing long before Obama came onto the scene. This is just another instance of "Thanks, Obama" blame game.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 30 Oct 2016 21:44

From the NYT:

Richard W. Painter, a professor at the University of Minnesota Law School, was the chief White House ethics lawyer from 2005 to 2007.

Richard Painter wrote an oped:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/opini ... power.html

(For the sake of full disclosure, in this election I have supported Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, John Kasich and Hillary Clinton for president, in that order.)

The F.B.I.’s job is to investigate, not to influence the outcome of an election.

Such acts could also be prohibited under the Hatch Act, which bars the use of an official position to influence an election.

And that is why, on Saturday, I filed a complaint against the F.B.I. with the Office of Special Counsel, which investigates Hatch Act violations, and with the Office of Government Ethics. I have spent much of my career working on government ethics and lawyers’ ethics, including two and a half years as the chief White House ethics lawyer for President George W. Bush, and I never thought that the F.B.I. could be dragged into a political circus surrounding one of its investigations. Until this week.

Violations of the Hatch Act and of government ethics rules on misuse of official positions are not permissible in any circumstances, including in the case of an executive branch official acting under pressure from politically motivated members of Congress.

But an official doesn’t need to have a specific intent — or desire — to influence an election to be in violation of the Hatch Act or government ethics rules. The rules are violated if it is obvious that the official’s actions could influence the election, there is no other good reason for taking those actions, and the official is acting under pressure from persons who obviously do want to influence the election.

Absent extraordinary circumstances that might justify it, a public communication about a pending F.B.I. investigation involving a candidate for public office that is made on the eve of an election is thus very likely to be a violation of the Hatch Act and a misuse of an official position.

Hitesh · Post by **Hitesh** » 30 Oct 2016 21:48

TSJones wrote: the DoJ has been corrupted. Obama needs to answer for that.

DOJ being corrupted? May I remind you that FBI is under a Republican man and that under DOJ, they have gone after many democrats. Don't forget that under the Bush administration, 22 million emails have gone missing and never found. They were not investigated by the Senate.

If you claim that the DOJ has been corrupted under Obama, then you have to claim that the House and Senate Judiciary committees have been corrupted under the Republicans. They shut down the investigation into Bush and torture claims. They shut down investigations into the energy task force led by Cheney. They shut down investigations into the US attorneys firing scandal. The list goes on.

This is a political game. Get used to it.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Oct 2016 22:12

Neera tanden another hc adviser

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/us ... leaks.html

Is she ok or one of the ring wraiths the nazgul?

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 30 Oct 2016 22:15

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... hington-3/

What can we say. Burkha changed WT?

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 30 Oct 2016 22:21

The good Ethics Lawyer's article puts in the caveat "absent extraordinary circumstances". I think clear smoking-gun evidence that The Manchurian Candidate's puppetteer may be nailed for perjury IS most certainly an Extraordinary Circumstance.

What if the FBI finds out on Nov. 7, clear, clear evidence showing that one of the POTUS candidates is indeed a foreign agent? If that candidate wins, there will be NO investigation and NO prosecution, any Agints who worked on the case will mysteriously drive their walls off cliffs or OD. Watch the series "House of Cards" for more inspiration.

But lets see where these Extraordinary Circumstances are going. From the Daily Mail:

Huma Abedin swore under oath she had given up all her devices that had State Department emails on them

FBI found government-related emails on laptop Abedin shared with disgraced husband Anthony Weiner
The laptop was seized during a separate investigation involving alleged sexts Weiner sent to a 15-year-old girl
Abedin said in June 2016 she looked for all devices she may have used to send and receive emails while working for Clinton at State Department
She gave two laptops, a Blackberry and some paper 'files' from her apartment to her attorneys to review
Abedin said her attorneys were the ones who determined 'what was federal record' and needed to be turned into the State Department
FBI is determining if classified information obtained by Abedin could have been accessed on her computer or forwarded on to unprotected accounts
None of the emails were exchanged directly between Abedin and Clinton
By Dailymail.com Reporter and Jennifer Smith
Updated: 07:18 EST, 30 October 2016
Huma Abedin swore under oath that she had given up all the devices she believed contained State Department emails on them, it has been revealed.
The information came to light just a day after it was revealed the FBI found government-related emails on a laptop Abedin shared with her disgraced husband, Anthony Weiner.
If Abedin did lie, she could be charged with perjury, which carries a penalty of up to five years in prison.
Detectives seized the laptop, which contains 'tens of thousands of emails', in a separate investigation involving alleged sexts Weiner sent to a 15-year-old girl.
In June 2016, Abedin said she had looked for all the devices she may have used to send and receive emails while working for Clinton at the State Department.

She sat for hours of depositions last summer as part of the civil lawsuit filed against the State Department by Judicial Watch.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4OaUNfc5b

My question is: Isn't the Yahoo! account stuff basically available from Yahoo!, no need to go to individual computers? In fact it seems extraordinarily silly to STORE 10,000 emails on a laptop, hain? What if it gets stolen?