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Falijee wrote:Pakistan Shelves Plans To Become A Liberal Society As Desired By Ganja Sharif :D

Sindh Assembly members life in danger.
Mr Shafi has demanded and additional security for the said members and the Assembly. As part of the overall strategy to diplomatically isolate Pakistan, Modi sarkar should seriously re-think liberalize issue of visas and "encourage" these endangered minority to come to India !
Falijee Ji :

The Christians can go to Europe - Americas - Australasia, The Shias can go to Iran, the Ahmedis can go to Canada, USA and Australasia and the Sunnis can go to Saudi Arabia especially the Rohingiyas.

India has enough people to support.
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First Test at Brisbane :

AUS 429, 202/5 decl CWAPIS 142, 450-all out (145.0 Ovs) Australia won by 39 runs
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anupmisra wrote:When all else fails, PIA ‘sacrifices black goat’ before flying ATR plane
The Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) may have cleared the ATR planes for flying operations, but mere clearance seemed a half-job done for the authorities as they resorted to slaughter black goat to ward off any ‘untoward happening’ in view of looming fear, ARY News reported.
the goat was slaughtered moments before the jet took off for first time after shakedown tests
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Harmiyon ka link: http://arynews.tv/en/pia-sacrifices-bla ... atr-plane/
Anupmisra- ji :
Interesting ! But enquiring minds want to know whether a "certificate of " halal-ism" AKA a fatwa was obtained from the MULLAH BRIGADE, before this last (superstitious ) resort ritual was implemented :lol:
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Late Pop - Star Turned "Pious Preacher" Son Talks To Press About His "Famous Dad"

I feel he knew his time was up, says Junaid Jamshed's son :roll:

-According to foreign (BBC ) media, ( this "news" is probably persona -non -grata in Paki society !) this so-called "pious preacher " had THREE WIVES ( one died in the crash while "honeymooning" in Chitral ) (" HALAL" according to sharia !- and one of the "bonuses" as stated in the HOLY BOOK ) ;am guessing here , but there is a 99% certainty that the remaining TWO "beauties" are presently under "lock and key " ie purdah as required by the Sharia . In a "normal society" someone from the press would have asked them as to how they are coping with this unexpected loss. But not here, because it is considered HARAM to interview the wife !
- Secondly nothing in the farticle talks about the time when this "preacher" went into hiding because he accidently got on the "wrong side" of the Mullah Brigade. (And was also physically assaulted !)
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Ganja Sharif Again Uses Paki Airline As His Personal Taxi !

PM engages PIA aircraft for Bosnia visit; flight schedule to be affected
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif will leave for a three-day visit to Bosnia on Tuesday in a Pakistan International Airlines Boeing 777 aircraft, putting the cash-strapped national flag carrier under additional financial burden.Since the PIA aircraft, which carries around 400 passengers, will remain under the use of the prime minister for three days, it will not only affect the airline’s flight schedule but also cause millions of rupees of losses to the national exchequer.

"Shameless Sharif" seems set on a spending spree! Just a few weeks ago, he had the (Qatari) Houbara Hunters at his estate at Raiwind (at State Expense!) to thank them for saving his skin in court against Immy ; then the "big spread" last week ( at Govt Expense again !) at the Serena Hotel in Quetta where he was wined and dined with his favourite food of nihari and paaya ! And now requesitioning one of the planes to fly oversees, knowing well that the National Airline is suffering because of financial difficulties. :eek:

PS: Just wondering if a black goat is going to be "halaled" before the flight departs :mrgreen:

Related News !

Lahore-Kuala Lumpur PIA flight diverted to Karachi due to 'technical issues' :roll:
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Australia deny Pakistan in gripping Test finale

Pakistan loses to Australia in Test Cricket , but this is how it is "headlined" in the Paki Press. ( Orwellian twisting of words !) :mrgreen:
Pakistan has lost four wars with India ( 1948, 1965, 1971, and Kargil ) but not once have they conceded defeat ( Orwellian twisting of words !) :mrgreen:
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Published On: Mon, Dec 19th, 2016
Latest Stories / Op - eds / World | By Dr. Ankit Srivastava, Editor - in - Chief
Pakistan hypes Trump – Sharif conversation to downplay India; Courts disgrace, humiliation and self-goal in the process

Pakistan government went overboard on 1st December with the revelation about telephonic conversation between US President elect Trump and Pakistan PM Nawaz Sharif on 31st November. The release used hyperlatives that must have embarrassed Pakistan itself. The news created furore in India, US and Pakistan. Things came to such a pass that Trump transition team was forced to issue denial through its own version of the Sharif-Trump telephone call, clarifying that Nawaz Sharif and Donald Trump had a ‘productive conversation ’on 30th November but the same lacked the ‘flowery language’ mentioned in the Pakistani version of this talk.
“President-elect Trump and Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif spoke … had a productive conversation about how the United States and Pakistan will have a strong working relationship in the future,” said the Trump transition team in a rare readout of his conversation with a foreign leader. “President-elect Trump also noted that he is looking forward to a lasting and strong personal relationship with Prime Minister Sharif,” the statement added with accusation that the Pakistani readout of the talk had ‘committed the president-elect to more than what he meant’. Obviously Pakistanis had overplayed Trump’s offer to play ‘a role’ in resolving Pakistan’s disputes with India.
Ari Fleischer- a former White House press secretary and member of former Republican president George Bush’s White House team who is now close to the Trump transition team as well – was scathing in his criticism of the readout: ‘It’s entirely inappropriate for the Pakistani government to release what an American president-elect says in the course of a phone call.’ He lambasted that no government releases such readout stating that countries never release what a foreign leader said but usually talk only about what domestic leader said. Own leader’s statements only are talked of, not what foreign leaders spoke.
“So, for them to do it is an entire breach of diplomatic protocol and tradition. And if they had done that to me, I would be on the phone right now with their press secretary, chewing him out. The ambassador would be on the phone with their ambassador, chewing the ambassador out. And up and down the chain,” Fleischer added. The US media also criticised the Pakistani decision to release the readout as inappropriate. “Readouts of phone calls between world leaders are usually written safely in order to protect leaders from incidental backlash — like the one the Trump team put out. They’re dry and diplomatic statements summing up conversations using carefully chosen buzzwords,” CNN noted. The Washington Post called the Pakistani release “a surprisingly candid read” and noted that it “focuses almost entirely on Trump’s contribution to the conversation, and reproduces them in a voice that is unmistakably his (Mr Trump’s)”. The Pakistanis are very very desperate to inject any third party ( be it US, UN, UK or Russia) to intervene in a bilateral dispute and they are concerned about the coming "dilplomatic isolation" that is being planned for them !)
Trump normally uses words like ‘very good reputation’, ‘amazing work’, ‘visible in every way’, ‘the most intelligent’, ‘fantastic country’, ‘exceptional people’. The statements attributed to him shows that he has no awareness of the issues between the United States, Pakistan and India. Pakistanis were too happy with the statements of Trump – the men they hated throughout the campaign – and did not want to dampen their spirits. It was too flattering, literally teleporting the entire nation to seventh heaven. Extremely volatile Pakistanis got a wonderful opportunity to praise Trump at least for a day. The rebuff by Trump’s team was a severe diplomatic setback for the country that is lying day in day out. Pakistan grew desperate to show friendship with US/Russia even if none of them is that much interested. Just seventy two hours back Russia had denied seeking to ‘join CPEC’ and a similar denial from US now tantamount to another fantastic, intelligent and exceptional embarrassment to dent Pak image. First Putin’s Russia and now Trump’s USA has snubbed Pakistan in quick succession in a very humiliating manner.And not to forget the recent diplomatic slap handed to "special envoy" Fatemi who failed to meet Trump insiders in NYC, while "parked" there one whole week and then had to return empty handed back to Pakiland :mrgreen:
Why did Pakistan do it? Probably it tried be too proactive to beat Modi and shot itself in the foot. Seeking some legitimacy for the terror state resulted in this amazing self-goal. It is very undiplomatic, infantile and totally inappropriate behaviour to twist the conversation into a biased narrative to blow own TRUMPet. ( good one :rotfl: )First impression is last impression and President Trump may refuse call from Nawaz in future. What a disgrace! Unlike UK or Australian culture, the Americans use lots of superlatives like wonderful, great etc which are empty words and do not mean anything at all. Moreover Trump has very limited vocabulary; fantastic, terrific and amazing are the words he uses the most. Publicity hungry Pakistan lapped up all these while enjoying the flattery to construe greatness. A small nice gesture over the phone was hastily skewed and blown out of proportion to intimidate India. The ploy has horribly backfired.
Pakistan, smitten with problems at domestic level, and on the border, too eagerly grasps at any straw that comes along. Seems like Panama leak case and Indian surgical strike has struck the nerve of the terror state resulting in sudden loss of semblance of self-respect! At least USA is getting to know Sharif’s Pakistan better. Still to come : diplomatic isolation :D



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Pakistan International Airlines sacrifice a goat to keep their fleet safe and secure :rotfl:

When all else fails, Allah Pae Bharosa rakho !

Ganja Sharif has AGAIN requistioned ( according to press reports !) one of the PIA ( Pain In Arse :P ) planes as his personal taxi; just wondering if a black (or a white) goat is going to be halaled again !
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X Posted from the “India-Russia: News & Analysis”.
Clarification on comment by Russia’s envoy to Islamabad Alexey Y Dedov on CPEC which was quoted by Radio Pakistan via Press Attache of Russian Embassy in Islamabad, Vyacheslav Sentyurin.
Russia Rejects Reports of Involvement in China Pakistan Economic Corridor

Parikshit Luthra | CNN-News18 ParikshitL
First published: December 19, 2016, 8:16 PM IST | Updated: 36 mins ago

Hours after Russia’s envoy to Islamabad Alexey Y Dedov was quoted by Radio Pakistan as saying that “Russia strongly supports the China Pakistan Economic Corridor” the Russian Embassy in Islamabad has urged the media not to make its own conclusions and treat the report carefully.

Speaking to CNN-News18, the embassy’s press attaché Vyacheslav Sentyurin said, “There is no question of joining or investing in the CPEC corridor. We are not going to be a part of it, but we have our own projects which we could connect to it. These ideas are not new and the media has made its own conclusions. We don’t hide such things from India”.

Sentyurin said the press should refer to the Russian Foreign Ministry’s recent statement which said, “Pakistani media reports about secret negotiations between Russia and Pakistan on the implementation of projects as part of CPEC are not true to facts and that Moscow is not discussing the possibility of joining this project with Islamabad”.

While reports quoted the Russian Envoy as saying that Russia was thinking about merging the Eurasian Economic Corridor with CPEC, the embassy clarified that “in the interview with the ambassador it was the merging of the EAEU with Chinese project of Silk Road Belt that was under discussion. Recognising the importance of CPEC for Pakistan’s economy and regional connectivity, the ambassador made it clear that Russia doesn’t participate in it being engaged in realisation of its own large-scale bilateral project with Pakistan – that of “North-South” gas pipeline from Karachi to Lahore”. …………………………………..

The Indian foreign ministry has refused to comment on Ambassador Dedov’s statements but, sources say government officials are closely following Moscow’s statements on Pakistan.
From here:

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^ Was expecting this..

As usual, another pompous claim by pakistan.. denIED!!!

Ladio Bakistan seems to be the new mouthpiece of the deep state..
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“Pakistan will split on its own, without India meddling in its affairs”.-Rajnath Singh , Home Minister

Pakistan will split but… :D
ddressing a “Shahid Diwas’ function in Jammu’s Kathua on December 11, Union home Minister Rajnath Singh made two very significant statements. One was that “India cannot get divided on religion anymore”. The other was that “Pakistan will split on its own, without India meddling in its affairs”.
The statements assume greater significance as the Home Minister made them in Jammu itself – winter capital of Jammu & Kashmir State. These came at a time when even the so-called mainstream Kashmiri Sunni leaders such as National Conference President Farooq Abdullah and his son Omar Abdullah have upped the ante against India by swinging solidly behind the Hurriyat Conference, a Pakistan-founded, aided, guided and directed outfit, committed to the Pakistani cause and Jammu & Kashmir’s secession from India.
Home Minister Rajnath Singh’s statement that India could not be divided on the score of religion anymore was an unambiguous response of the Indian State to the Kashmiri jihadis and Farooq Abdullah and ilk. India knows what communal partition means. It also knows that Jammu, which is known as the City of Temples, is also called the “Capital of Refugees”.
There are lakhs of Hindu and Sikh refugees living in different parts of Jammu. They are from Pakistan (all Hindus, mostly Dalits), from PoJK (all Hindus and Sikhs) and from Kashmir Valley itself (all Hindus plus a few hundred Sikhs). While the persecuted minorities quit Pakistan and PoJK in 1947 in the wake of the communal partition of India to escape the wrath of the ardent believers in the concept of 2-nation, Kashmiri Hindus vacated their original habitat – Valley – in January 1990 for the same reasons. So, it was very appropriate on the part of the Home Minister to make it loud and clear that India will not allow another communal partition just for the reason that a particular region houses people professing a particular faith.
Clear message given to Pakistan !
qually candid was the Home Minister’s response to Pakistan that it will split into ten parts in case it refused to behave like a responsible State behaves. Pakistan has mobilised all its resources, Army, Rangers and deadly terror outfits to keep the International Border and the Line of Control very hot, as also to destabilise the whole country by seeking to foment anti-India troubles in the Valley and some sensitive parts of Jammu region bordering Pakistan and Pakistan-occupied-Jammu & Kashmir (PoJK). His assertion that Pakistan will split was a warning of sorts and was not based on heresy. He spoke only the truth given the prevailing situation in Pakistan where the Balochs, the Sindhis, the Pathans and the Shiite Muslims are up in arms against the Punjabi Sunnis.
. His statement has reinforced suspicion in Pakistan that with the new Modi Sarkar, it is not "business as usual " :D
The Home Minister’s assessment about the political future of Pakistan was absolutely correct; and it was not an off-the-cuff remark. What Rajnath Singh said in Jammu was what Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind, the political organ of the Deoband ulama, had predicted immediately after the Muslim League adopted Pakistan resolution on March 23, 1940 on the bank of River Ravi in Lahore under the presidentship of Mohammad Ali Jinnah.
The Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind was bitterly opposed to the Pakistan plan. Its arguments against the Muslim separatism were: “The Pakistan demand has British support and is nothing but an instrument forged by them to further their policy of divide and rule;” “Pakistan will split and, therefore, weaken the Muslims in India;” “Our real enemy is British imperialism and our only duty to defeat it and only a united action can achieve this”; “Muslims left behind India after separation will be at the mercy of the Hindus”;
“Partition will hinder the missionary activities of the Ulema”; “Muslim League leaders are ignorant of Islam, have no ideology, and are only exploiting the name of Islam for the worldly gains of Muslim vested interests”; and “Muslim League leaders are incapable of building up an Islamic State and their Pakistan will be no better than the Turkey of Mustafa Kamal”.
The demand for Pakistan was predicated on the false premise of "Islam khatrae mae hae" with aiding and abetting by the "divide and rule" tactics of the British ; DJinnah was more than happy to give military bases to UK (and US) if his "demand for Pakistan " was accepted ( India/ Congress had earlier refused bases to Britain in the post WWII cold war period!)
In any case, it must be said that Home Minister Rajnath Singh only indicated what the direction Pakistan is heading towards. At the same time, we would do well to read the writing on the wall, isolate the enemies within and undertake measures at various levels to comprehensively defeat those whose single-point agenda all along has been to reach Delhi through Kashmir. Prime Minister Narendra Modi has the required mandate behind him and he has also given the nation to understand that he can take bold decisions.
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Have Bangladeshis overtaken Pakistanis in Britain?

Finally, rare piece that compares the moth-eaten pawkis with a country other than India. Guess they have realized by now that they cannot compare themselves with India anymore without being thoroughly humiliated.

Also, not just in Britain, Bangladeshis probably have overtaken their tormentors on almost all aspects..
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Pakistan getting great press in WaPo.
In Pakistan, five girls were killed for having fun. Then the story took an even darker twist.
It was just a few seconds, a video clip of several young women laughing and clapping to music, dressed for a party or a wedding in orange headscarves and robes with floral patterns. Then a few more seconds of a young man dancing alone, apparently in the same room.

The cellphone video was made six years ago, in a village deep in Kohistan, a rugged area of northwest Pakistan. It was the last time the young women, known only as Bazeegha, Sareen Jan, Begum Jan, Amina and Shaheen, have ever been definitively seen alive.

What happened to them remains a mystery. Their fates have been shrouded by cultural taboos, official inertia, implacable resistance from elders and religious leaders suspected of ordering their deaths, and elaborate subterfuges by the families who reportedly carried out those orders.
Even in Pakistan, where hundreds of “honor killings” are reported every year, this case was extreme. According to court filings and interviews with people who investigated it, the families confined the girls for weeks, threw boiling water and hot coals on them, then killed them and buried them somewhere in the Kohistan hills.

Later, when investigators appeared, relatives and community leaders insisted that the girls were still alive and produced a second set of similar-looking girls to prove it. They even disfigured one girl’s thumbprints so she couldn’t be checked against the identity of the victim she was supposed to impersonate.

The story illustrates many of the reasons Pakistani officials have failed to curb the problem of honor killings. These include the cruel sway of traditional tribal councils, known as jirgas, over uneducated villagers; the lengths to which such leaders may go to defy state authority; and the casual worthlessness they assign to the rights, lives and even identities of young women.
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sudhan wrote:Have Bangladeshis overtaken Pakistanis in Britain?

Finally, rare piece that compares the moth-eaten pawkis with a country other than India. Guess they have realized by now that they cannot compare themselves with India anymore without being thoroughly humiliated.

Also, not just in Britain, Bangladeshis probably have overtaken their tormentors on almost all aspects..
a few interesting comment from this article.


fawad Mar 11, 2015 06:27pm

Earlier comparison used to be with Indians, now Bangladeshis, slowly slowly it will become with some very lesser known countries unless Pakistan decides to wake up, shake itself against religious righteousness, superiority complex against all others, clinging to Kashmir while forgetting rest of Pakistan. It is easy to blame politicians, be the change what you want to be. Keep house in order, rather than try to control Afghan policy or Indian influence. Let others be what they want, make yourself good first.


Pakistani Mar 11, 2015 06:40pm

As long as we have crazy mullahs dividing us, corrupt politicians stealing from us, and no law and order, we will fall behind.
Pakistan has great potential - forget about Mullahism for 5 years, rehab schools, follow driving rules and keep your streets clean - just doing that will be something


mansoor Mar 11, 2015 07:00pm

Armed with poor education and hardly any employable skills Pakistanis are leaving their country. It would be nice if Author did a study on the educational qualifications of taxi drivers in Toronto. I was horrified to see doctors, engineers and other professionals like accountants, computer enginers, lawyers doing taxi service in Toronto in 1999. They were all very happy with their accomplishments as they were all earning more than me who was training as a cardiologist.It was tax free income, you decide your hours and can have a satifing social circle. You are told an address and have to say Thank you at the end of the journey. Please update me about the state of our brothers. Same applies to taxi driving Pakistanis in Bradford. Our activites leave a 400 Million pounds hole in Bradfords economy. Unfortunatly 3rd generation taxi driving is not uncommon.They speak pothohary and their standards are stuck in Mirpur and not in UK. They are eraning in pounds and spending in rupees. they do not want to mentally live in UK as the houses built in Mirpur would tell you.
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http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/indi ... 38469.html
Indian Coast Guard apprehends 26 Pakistanis in 5 boats off Gujarat coast
The Indian Coast Guard has apprehended 26 Pakistanis off the Gujarat coast today evening.
Interceptor Boat C 419 operating off Jakhau port noticed five unidentified rubber dinghies with 26 Pakistani crew members on board. The five boats were immediately apprehended.
They were caught around 26 miles from the Jakhua port and are now being brought to the harbour for interrogation.
Are these fishermen? Do Pak Fishermen use rubber dinghies?
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India to attend Islamabad conference
( Lo India is Merciful!!)
ISLAMABAD: Despite escalating tensions between the two nuclear states, India is likely to attend the 12th session of the Governing Council of the Asian and Pacific Centre for Transfer of Technology (APCTT), which opens here today (Monday).A senior official of the Ministry of Science and Technology confirmed to The Express Tribune that a delegation from India was participating in the three-day conference.“We have received a confirmation email from the authorities concerned in India regarding the participation of their delegate,” said the official.APCTT is a specialised regional Institute of the United Nations’ Economic and Social Commission for Asia and Pacific (UN-ESCAP), based in New Delhi.Its key role is to assist member states through strengthening their capabilities to develop and manage their National Innovation Systems focusing on strengthening technology driven sustainable development. The governing council comprises 14 members including Bangladesh, China, Fiji, India, Indonesia, Islamic Republic of Iran, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, Republic of Korea, Samoa, Sri Lanka, Thailand and Vietnam.“The conference will provide a platform and opportunity to all these member countries to share and exchange best international practices, policies and plans in order to encourage innovative entrepreneurship as well as technology transfer,” said the official.There will be thematic discussions where political and business leaders introduce strategic policy issues for sustainable development. The exchange of policy experience will also contribute to building capacity for participants from the member states.
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[quote="Prem"]India to attend Islamabad conference
( Lo India is Merciful!!)

In "Diplomacy", the practice of reciprocity is very, very important ; hope the Indian Delegation is ready for some "rough treatment" and/ or restriction on their movement, tailing by" Deep State Agents, etc etc ; the Pakis have been complaining "loudly" that Senile Sartaj was not treated in a "proper way" in Amritsar :mrgreen:
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No journalist murdered in Pakistan in 2016, says CPJ report

Is it not a bit premature to celebrate this "non -event " . After all, there are FULL 11 days ( 264 hours !) to go before the year is over. Anything can happen between now and Dec 31, 2016. :twisted:
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Ummah (Airlines ) Being Blamed For PIA Financial Failures :roll:

PIA trapped in a blind alley?
Pakistan’s airlines have been sucked into a vortex of burgeoning losses. This is primarily because the protective clauses inherent in the aviation policy — which ensured the viability and sustained expansion of PIA and other domestic airlines — have been forfeited in favour of foreign air carriers. (So, now Pakistan's Air - Sover-virginity has been "violated" by foreign air carriers !
The situation has now reached a point where foreign airlines operating in Pakistan, particularly those from the Gulf countries, have wrested complete control of the country’s long-haul passenger traffic to the US, Canada, the UK, EU and Saudi Arabia. What a bunch of BS ! The "Gulf Ummah" airlines are taking a risk and doing the Pakis a "favor" by flying in and out of this terror - infested territories, in spite of prohibitive insurance rates !
While the aviation policy and bilateral agreement permit access to traffic between two countries, an unrestrained and unimpeded access allowed to foreign carriers in all spectrums of the country’s air traffic market is largely used by these carriers to uplift passengers to/from a third country via their Gulf country hub. Such carriage of passenger traffic is known in aviation parlance as ‘6th Freedom’.An example would be the carriage of passengers from Pakistan to the UK via a third country such as Dubai (or Abu Dhabi or Qatar). It may be noted that there is has no legal sanction behind such practices and various countries have taken measures to curtail this in the form of controlling the flights of such airlines. Unfortunately, in this respect, the country’s policymakers have thrown caution to the winds and allowed foreign air carriers to flourish at the cost of its own airlines. (But then Pakistan has always been in the "forefront" to go the "extra mile" to help out Ummah countries - Has not the Paki Atom Bum been reserved for Saudia - . So, I see nothing wrong in that !)
Consequently, this laissez-faire policy has allowed unlimited seats and flights to air carriers operated by Gulf nations (as well as certain other countries) by opening all ten to twelve international gateways in Pakistan against allowing access to only one.Furthermore, allowing complete freedom to all foreign airlines to charge predatory prices has pushed our airlines out of the race by not allowing them to compete on a level playing field.
Looking, strictly from a customer service point of view, no sane consumer would want to travel in any airline (i) where pilots are drunk (ii) where bad/ stale food is the norm (iii) where seats/ toilets are broken (iv) where uncertified old planes fly in the air (v) where scheduled departure and arrival times are not followed (vi) where flights are cancelled at the last minute .But then Pakistan has "perfected" the art and science of shifting blame to everyone else for its trouble ; examples are plenty : 300 Billion Dollar loss in so-called war on Terror ; 200 Billion Dollar loss (or is it 500 Billion ) for taking care of Afghan Refugees ; couples of Billions loss to Paki Agriculture due to "India "stealing" Paki water - and the list goes on and on ; so, maybe , a case for financial compensation is being built up against Gulf Air, Emirates, Saudi Airline, Kuwait Airways and other Gulf based airlines :mrgreen:
Given this scenario, whether the expansion of PIA’s operations to long-haul international destinations will enable it to retrieve its lost market share from Gulf carriers, or take it up a blind alley, needs to be critically evaluated.Utterly ignorant of the intricacies of air services agreements and the dynamics of the emerging international aviation scenario, as well as the grave repercussions of their policies on national airlines, the powers that be have been wreaking havoc on the domestic aviation sector ever since 1998.
Someone should "force " Ganja Sharif from using the National Carrier as a personal taxi !
The vision for the long-term revival of PIA remains murky as neither are the avenues of expansion definitive due to the 6th Freedom carriage syndrome, nor are the aircraft acquisition plans for expansion based on any realistic assumption of the state of aviation in the region and the world over. Lahori Logic and Sialkoti Statistics !
The talk of splitting the national carrier into PIA-I and PIA-II, primarily to present a clean balance sheet to any prospective investor, will further add to the confusion.Any prospective investor from the airline industry may take up the offer, but once these deep-rooted problems rear their ugly head, the investor will inevitably look for other avenues to salvage their investment.In consequence, the investor may opt out until these 6th Freedom problems are resolved, or may even change business strategy by using Pakistan’s market as a back yard for another airline’s benefit.
No amount of financial window dressing is going to work ; PIA has to clean its own house, before it can become a "normal" airline !
This continued fixation with disastrous anti-national policies is an act of omission and commission while the PIA continues to bleed, requiring the repeated injection of huge funding to survive.
And Pakistan suffers because of its own short sighted and ill-conceived policies. [/quote] This is 100% true in other areas as well !
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[quote="Falijee"] What a bunch of BS ! The "Gulf Ummah" airlines are taking a risk and doing the Pakis a "favor" by flying in and out of this terror - infested territories, in spite of prohibitive insurance rates ! [quote]

spot on- some harm link references.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/blog/20 ... ri-report/

http://www.thenational.ae/uae/transport ... o-peshawar
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Publicity Hungry Mush Confirms Earlier Rumours !

Raheel Sharif Influenced Govt Over Legal Cases Against Me : Pervez Musharaf :D
Former president Pervez Musharraf claimed on Monday that former army chief Gen (r) Raheel Sharif influenced the government to end legal cases against him.“The government was influenced by the army to end cases against me. The judiciary was influenced by the government to have the cases ‘move’ in my favour,” Musharraf claimed during an interview to a private news channel.The statement comes weeks after General (r) Raheel Sharif was replaced after completing his three-year tenure.Earlier in October, Musharraf had claimed that the military had helped him leave the country.In an interview with The Atlantic in Washington DC, Musharraf had said that Pakistani social fabric was not made for democracy.“Reasonably fair,” he replied when Robert Siegel, the interviewer asked him: “You are an army guy; the army looked after you. You were able to leave despite the government’s efforts to keep you there, fair (assumption)?”Army has always had a role since our independence (on August 14, 1947). Army has played a prominent role in the governance of Pakistan, partially, because, or mainly because of misgovernance by all of the so-called democratically elected governments,” he had said.
This publicity hungry Ex President has perfected the art and science of self glorification, so he can keep himself relevant on the Paki political scene. Others rumours have him , teaming up with Altaf Bhai and /or MQM to "capture" the Mohajir vote in case of a future election ; stayed tuned for future episodes :mrgreen:
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Somewhere in Pakistan, a Govt spokesperson is rehearsing the following statements:

"Pakistan is the biggest victim of terrorism"
"EU should introspect as to why innocent Pakistanis are getting radicalized"
"He is not in our national database"

..just in case the Berlin truck driver turns out to be a Pakistani, the probability of which is very high. Some not so mainstream media outlets are reporting that the attacker is Pakistani.
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FBI agent, US justice dept attorney among witnesses named by NIA

NEW DELHI: The National Investigation Agency (NIA) has listed a special agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and a trial attorney of the US department of justice as "witnesses" among others in the Pathankot attack chargesheet against Jaish-e-Mohammad chief Maulana Masood Azhar and three others.

Sources said US authorities had played an important role throughout the investigation in establishing the role of JeM, sharing details of Facebook chats, emails and thousands of conversations between the terrorists and their handlers apart from other help.

The statement of the US officials, who are in protected witnesses category, is yet to be recorded and the NIA has requested the court that their names be kept secret under Section 44(3) of Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act and Section 17 of National Investigation Agency Act (Protection of Witnesses).

TOI had first reported on July 30 that the US had shared crucial evidence, including 1,000 of pages of chats between JeM handler Kashif Jan and others. Kashif was using a Facebook account connected to one of the Pakistani mobile phone numbers which were dialled by the terrorists from India.

Facebook account details of 'Mulla Dadullah' were also shared by the US with India. These accounts, operated by Kashif, were accessed before and around the time of attack using the IP address of telecom companies based in Pakistan (Telenor and Pakistan TeleCommunications Company Ltd, Islamabad). The US had also informed that these Facebook pages contained jihadi material and videos and comments condemning the arrest of Jaish cadres in Pakistan.

Apart from US officials, the NIA has listed jailed terrorist Mohammad Sadeek alias Muviya, a resident of Ghalotikalan in Pakistan's Sialkot district, and another jailed person in J&K Abdul Rahman Mogul, a resident of Polas village in Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir.

Sadeek, sources said, was a JeM operative sent by the terror outfit's leadership to India on November 25, 2015 to attack an Army camp in Tangdhar (J&K). He was arrested from Baramulla in January while hiding in the jungle. Sadeek had given information about JeM's plans and had also identified the four fidayeen killed in the Pathankot IAF base attack.

The NIA has not named superintendent of police Salwinder Singh, his cook Madan Gopal and his jeweller friend Rajesh Verma in the list of witnesses. Their vehicle was hijacked by the four fidayeen. While Singh and Gopal were released in a jungle, the terrorists had slit the throat of Verma, who managed to get immediate medical aid after the terrorists dumped him.
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Truck driver who ploughed through Xmas revellers in Berlin was a Pakistani !

Joe Walsh ‏@WalshFreedom 11m11 minutes ago
German media reports the driver was a Pakistani known to authorities.
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I have lost count the number of times the authorities seem to know a terrorist, or has been keeping tabs on him - be it in Europe or India.
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IndraD wrote:Truck driver who ploughed through Xmas revellers in Berlin was a Pakistani !

Joe Walsh ‏@WalshFreedom 11m11 minutes ago
German media reports the driver was a Pakistani known to authorities.

Washington Times citing German Newspapers Der Welt and Der Tagesspiegel confirms that there is a link between the perpetrator of this likely violent act of Mohammadden Terrorism in Berlin and the Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Nationality not confirmed though with the perpetrator of this likely act of Mohammaddenism being either an Afghan or a Pakistani.

Either way, it was foolish of Germany to provide refuge for Mohammaddens who have lived in the Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan and thus been exposed to the endemic virus of Mohammadden Terrorism that infects Pakistan:

Berlin Truck Driver Reportedly A Refugee From Pakistan
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Falijee wrote:
Prem wrote:India to attend Islamabad conference
( Lo India is Merciful!!)

In "Diplomacy", the practice of reciprocity is very, very important ; hope the Indian Delegation is ready for some "rough treatment" and/ or restriction on their movement, tailing by" Deep State Agents, etc etc ; the Pakis have been complaining "loudly" that Senile Sartaj was not treated in a "proper way" in Amritsar :mrgreen:
India, others stay out of regional tech moot
India, Bangla­desh and Iran are not participating in a regional conference that began here on Monday under the aegis of the United Nations.

The objective of the conference is to promote innovation for sustainable development and discus strategy of the Asian and Pacific Centre for Transfer of Technology (APCTT).
Which is correct?
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Lt. Gen. Syed Ata Hasnain (Retd):
Pakistan’s citizenry are trapped in a delusional self-perception and view of India, which prevents them from making rational analyses of relations between the two countries. In meetings with the Pakistani elite, an Indian will just have to smile his way through because debating and arguing rationally isn’t something the other side likes to engage in.
Pakistan’s superiority complex vis-à-vis India remains undimmed despite the evidence of the last 70 years.
Cut through the fog: Indian strategic communication must aim to overcome Pakistan’s state of delusion
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General saab is talking of a situation in which the old generation of Indians meet up with 'cleverer by half' pakistanis.

pakistani buddhe should meet the younger generation of Indians. They will know how deep water they are in.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12 ... um-seeker/

Berlin market attack.Suspect named as 23 year old Pakistani asylum seeker.
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Gross Boasting...

Undiplomatic Tweeter War of Words betn Ceril Almeida and China Ambassador to Bakistan re CPEC

Words such as below flying back and forth

"out of your mind"
"Look at Corruption in China"
"Use of Prisoners in CPEC projects"


RAA Ijint Ceril wants to get shot by motorcycle born ISI goat-fuc*kers or what
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Naved B: Berlin attacker identified as 23-year-old Pakistani refugee

Asylum-seeker arrives in Germany a year ago and lives in airport accomodation centre

"Naved B", had been living in Flughfen Tempelhof – an old airport that had been converted into a refugee centre – and was detained last night following the attack.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 86076.html
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Bhurishravas wrote:Naved B: Berlin attacker identified as 23-year-old Pakistani refugee

Asylum-seeker arrives in Germany a year ago and lives in airport accomodation centre

"Naved B", had been living in Flughfen Tempelhof – an old airport that had been converted into a refugee centre – and was detained last night following the attack.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 86076.html
Is Naved B a Gurkha?
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X Posted on the PESW Thread

Now, Cwapistan passes resolution for nussbandi

ISLAMABAD: Within a month of demonetisation of high value currency notes in India, Pakistan's senate passed a resolution on Monday seeking withdrawal of Rs 5,000 notes from circulation to halt money laundering.

Pakistan is ranked 117th on the list of corrupt nations out of 175, according to the 2015 Corruption Perceptions Index reported by Transparency International. Corruption rank in Pakistan averaged 107.90 from 1995 until 2015, reaching an all time high of 144.00 in 2005.

Senator Usman Saifullah of opposition Pakistan People's Party (PPP) tabled the resolution, arguing that the Rs 5,000 note was being used in illegal transactions and should be withdrawn.

The move was strongly opposed by the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) government. However, since the PPP has a majority in the upper house of parliament, the resolution was endorsed.

A member of Pakistan People's Party said that the government must withdraw the highest denomination currency note "in order to reduce illicit money flow, encourage the use of bank accounts and reduce the size of undocumented economy".

Opposing the resolution, law minister Zahid Hamid said that the move would have repercussions on the economy and the masses in general, as is happening in neighbouring India. He also said that withdrawal of the notes would create crisis in the market and people would resort to foreign currencies in absence of Rs 5,000 notes.

Hamid said that around 3.43 trillion Rs 5,000 banknotes were in circulation in Pakistan - around 30% of the total currency in flow in Pakistan now.

"Such a huge number of currency notes cannot be pulled from circulation without causing a monetary crises. If such steps are taken, people will lose confidence in the Pakistani rupee and will instead prefer foreign currency due to the steep drop in supply of local currency notes," the minister said.

At this, senator Saifullah said that instead of withdrawing the Rs 5000 currency note, its printing should be halted and the withdrawal should take place in a time span of three to five years.

The PPP senator said that most illegal transactions in the country were carried out using the Rs 5,000 note.

Ever since the Indian government ended high denomination currency notes by pulling out Rs 500 and Rs 1,000 notes from circulation, there has been increasing demands that Pakistan take similar steps that will help in revealing hidden assets and prevent tax evasion.

But, there were reservations expressed by some observers about the success of the move, as phased demonetisation would give ample time to illicit holders of currency notes to buy property or gold.
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^^ Wrong thread??
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Peregrine wrote:............Is Naved B a Gurkha?
Pakistani authorities inform us that 'B' stands for Bahadur, or Buddhist. So it's surely one or the other.
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Markel better steps down as Chancellor. If she does not step down, she will be out of power in a few days. No one is going to wait for the elections.
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sum wrote:^^ Wrong thread??
The news is joyful in any thread, saar. :)

We have beaten the brits, both economically (GDP) and in cricket in the span of a couple of weeks.

It's going to be a very cold christmas and new years' out there for our erstwhile colonial masters.

They had even brought along paki reinforcements, no??
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