nam wrote:
I totally support the fear mongering. I want the Indians to react harshly to even silly Chinese actions.
US and the Russia used their enmity to take the world for a ride. They used the excuse of ColdWar to build their technological base and fundamentally dominate the world, which continues this day. Neither US nor Russia lost anything substantial, but the remaining world specially Latam, Asia bore the burnt of it.
The Chinese are using the threat from US bogeyman to build their technology base. We don't have overwhelming superiority over PA, because it used "Indian threat" to get everything from F16, Subs, BM and nukes. We suffer everyday due to the lack of superiority over Pakistan.
I want GOI to consider China as a threat and overreact (without getting into real fist fight). If Chinese build 10 ships, GOI should build 11.
This is the only way to build a powerful India.
If Pakis did not go around building nukes, we will still be sitting on a "Peaceful Nuclear Test" and no Agnis.
Namji, I believe this is the proper view.
And I've said this many times before.
Without Cheen, I believe Bharat would have been perfectly fine in a world dominated by goras. Even with the Japanese and East Asian Tigers lapping us in the 1960's, we seem content with our station -- which was then at the bottom of the geo-political totem pole.
But when the lizard began ascending, especially in the last two decades, it threw a wrench into our mindset and made us stand up. My, what a transformation from even when I was child! From the India of the Nehru-Gandhi Clan (under whom the face of India was arguably not even Indian but Mother Teresa) to the muscular India of today under Modi, we have to thank in part to Cheen.
So we do covet China as a rival instead of TSP just as the PRC covets the US as theirs. India-China equal equal will allow us to break out of the South Asian straitjacket. Conversely, Indi-Paki will tie us down.
But that said, we have to actually understand Cheen from a realistic viewpoint. Otherwise, using Cheen as a bogeyman can lead to shaking and wet dhotis and counterproductive solutions like being the world's greatest importer of phoren maal to deal with a dhoti-shivering induced imminent chini attack.
First of all, Cheen had risen not because it is a great military power. And as far as India is concerned, it can never bring enough force and equipment to match us in our theatre of operation because of both geo-politics and simple geography. We will ALWAYS hold the advantage in any war scenario. So we have time to spend and build up domestic resources.
Cheen has risen on the ability of the PRC central bank to print money without going into hyperinflation. This underpins everything they are doing: OBOR, CPEC, HSR on a monumental scale and of course the military projects -- two stealth aircraft, giant transporter, endless flanker variants and a raging river of warships.
Everything they could do and we could not is based on the simple availability of funds. Six or 8 carriers is reasonable to them when compared to the trillion dollar initiatives in OBOR.
So I hope most of all, we can match them in the printing press. But without that we must be smart.
Building 11 carriers to their 10 would not be smart and would be as silly as the USSR trying to race with the US. Cheen, like the US, has a printing press that can do outrageous and insane things. We knew what happened to the Soviets when they attempted to compete against a printing press.
But we do know that Cheen is facing someone with an even bigger printing press. The aforementioned US had hemmed in Cheen with a curtain of steel with American bases all around its first island chain and a cordon of warships and aircraft patrolling right off the chini coasts.
Being smart means allowing the US to soak up the lizard's printing runs. Cheen just launched a carrier. The US has 10 already operational. Cheen began constructing four 100-VLS DDGs in parallel? The USN has 70 of those.
All we need to do is one build one CVN to show the sundry states around the IOR that we too are a global power. And wait for our printing press to come into being.