Pulwama Attack

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Pulwama Attack

Postby Karthik S » 14 Feb 2019 19:23

Mods, IMO, the casuality number of this attack is so big that I felt it will be better to have it's own thread.

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Jaish-e-Mohammad has claimed responsibility and identified suicide bomber Adil Ahmad Dar as the one who carried out the attack. #Pulwama #CRPF


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At least 30 #CRPF personnel killed as terrorists attack convoy in #Pulwama in Jammu and Kashmir, reports PTI

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Pulwama terror attack: Jaish-e-Mohammed claims responsibility with video of suicide bomber Adil Dar


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https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/p ... 2019-02-14

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby nam » 14 Feb 2019 19:35

Posted this on Afghanistan thread, on Feb-02

nam wrote:Based on history: Parliament attack and 26/11 happen around time Pak got IMF coffers opened up for them...

Something to look out for..


Sadly has come true.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby SBajwa » 14 Feb 2019 19:36

Also MBS is visiting Bakistan!!!

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby Karthik S » 14 Feb 2019 19:43

BTW,

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#KashmirTerrorAttack: BJP brags about the surgical strike and that's why it happened: Sushil Kumar Shinde

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby Karthik S » 14 Feb 2019 19:47

I really wish/hope AL-31FP breathing some paki air this time.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

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K Vijay Kumar, Advisor to J&K Govt to ANI: Death toll in #Pulwamaattack is around 40

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby IndraD » 14 Feb 2019 20:17

can't India take out Azhar Masood?

This is the first car bomb attack on Indian soil, hunch says this has been triggered to show Modi as weak leader before India's election as any action takes time.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby Supratik » 14 Feb 2019 20:20

40 dead so far.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby Singha » 14 Feb 2019 20:25

350kg of explosive was used in a scorpio suv. not details yet on what grade.

palestini terrorists once used a 100kg buried explosive to destroy a 70ton merkava tank, so 350kg vs a thin skin bus has shredded it.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby Aditya_V » 14 Feb 2019 20:26

IndraD wrote:can't India take out Azhar Masood?

This is the first car bomb attack on Indian soil, hunch says this has been triggered to show Modi as weak leader before India's election as any action takes time.


He is not as important as the Paki Miltary or even MBS.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby Katare » 14 Feb 2019 20:34

Who the hell is MBS?

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby mody » 14 Feb 2019 20:36

Should check feasibility of using NGARM with 100+ Km range to take out Masood Azhar, his brothers and top leaders of Jaish , when we have intelligence of them being together. Such a surgical strike would really send a message and send shivers down the spine.
Pakistan would scream about sovereignty and crap and about striking back, but all terrorists would be on notice.

Toll at 42, might increase further!
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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby Aditya_V » 14 Feb 2019 20:36

The princling from the Gulf who has landed in the land of the pure.

Menwhile, lets not put artifical deadlines, Pakis will be ready right now. Let us leave it too the forces to do the retaliation at the time and place of our choosing, we should not restrain them.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby SBajwa » 14 Feb 2019 20:45

Katare wrote:Who the hell is MBS?



Mohammad Bin Salman who murdered the journalist in Turkey. He is defacto ruler of Saudi as his father (the king) is on bed.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby IndraD » 14 Feb 2019 20:46

unfortunately Modi's tough image has taken big dent with this attack and he is caught between devil and the deep sea, pakistan is ready for retaliation now and delaying will anger people jeopardising poll prospect

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby suryag » 14 Feb 2019 20:54

Elections be damned do the right thing hit them hard 42 are martyred now

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby Singha » 14 Feb 2019 20:54

IndraD wrote:unfortunately Modi's tough image has taken big dent with this attack and he is caught between devil and the deep sea, pakistan is ready for retaliation now and delaying will anger people jeopardising poll prospect


there is no need to score resounding self goals with statements like that.
people need to have some reasonable faith in their own elected govt to do the right thing even if not immediately.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby pankajs » 14 Feb 2019 20:57

Right.

And why does retaliation has to be like last time? How will bakistan defend against Airstrikes / rockets / missiles [Brahmos] or an IED?

The thing as it stands is that GOI has no option BUT for a counter strike ... not after the Uri retaliation and its public proclamation. They can't wish it away with casualty higher than Uri NOT that Modi would do that. It is only a question of time and timing.

They only question is if the retaliation will be against the expendable footsoldiers or against the proper jihadi army?

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby sunnyP » 14 Feb 2019 21:12

Who needs external enemies when you have people like this within the country.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby Singha » 14 Feb 2019 21:21

please stop posting the tweets of mad people on this thread.

twitter is like a public unpaid toilet - everyone can crap in there and no need to give them a global audience or worry about their rants.

nobody cares about this inbred set of people who retweet each other in their echo chamber.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby pankajs » 14 Feb 2019 21:24

Eaxctly!

Every tweet of their only ends up exposing them. Let them be.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby Katare » 14 Feb 2019 21:25

With full majority right wing govt, Modi as PM and Doval as NSA just before elections. This is the strongest team and best timing India could possibly come up with to give us that first resounding response to pakistaniyat that Rakshaks have craved for decades. If nothing happens, i’ll loose faith...... and in true Orwellian ending, learn to love Rahul baba and Congress.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby syam » 14 Feb 2019 21:28

First of all, Pakistan didn't became our enemy just now that we have to eliminate them asap. They were same folks yesterday and they are same now too.

Who were pakis yesterday? If we really want to take action against them, then target all pakis both outside and inside India. Target those JNU traitors who enabled these attacks in first place. Target those politicians who love these terrorists. Target every anti-national.

That said, there should be serial bomb-blasts in pak-punjab. Nothing linked to GoI on paper of course. There should be blood on Paki streets. If the guy want to fight in shadows, we should grant him his wish.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby Supratik » 14 Feb 2019 21:34

Cool response is needed not blackmail. Time for shadow boxing is over. One hopes the establishment has plans A, B and C for such contingencies if not a long term goal. If they have it time to implement it.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby SBajwa » 14 Feb 2019 21:35

44 martyred now! The toll keep going up!

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby sudhan » 14 Feb 2019 21:36

The NSA has once hinted that if Pakis do another Mumbai, they will lose Balochistan.

I think they should lose more than just Balochistan

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby hemant_sai » 14 Feb 2019 21:39

@syam, I share same feelings. But at large we people of India are responsible as we give space for political party's shamelessness. We, people of India have grown thick skin like politicians. Sometimes I doubt if it is people of India who fought against British or they were same few like our army men.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby pankajs » 14 Feb 2019 21:42

With publicly proclaiming the surgical strike after 18 deaths @ Uri this GOI in effect drew a red-line. For that red-line to have any meaning GOI has no option but to retaliate now with the death toll past 44.

I don't think GOI will go for something as big as Balochistan or Sindh because that means pushing bakistan for an all out war. GOI will try to inflict as much as we have suffered plus some interest may be 2x.

We just have to wait for the wheels to turn.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby pankajs » 14 Feb 2019 21:59

Incidentally, an attack inside Iran too during this period. 20 hrs old news.

https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-suicide-at ... 68271.html
Militants Kill At Least 27 Revolutionary Guards In Iran
The militant Sunni Muslim separatist group Jaish al-Adl claimed responsibility for the attack.

The suicide bomber struck a bus transporting IRGC members on the road between the cities of Zahedan and Khash in Sistan-Baluchistan Province, the IRGC said in a statement carried by state media.
Very similar attack.
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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby Supratik » 14 Feb 2019 22:00

It could be alteration of LAC as they would have moved the jihadis deeper after surgical strike.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby Rishi_Tri » 14 Feb 2019 22:01

Well.. Too much time spent fighting chappal wearing AK armed people.. I would bring out Arjun MkII.. The 70 Ton Beast.. And have 50 of them run through Wagah border.. !! Unless it hurts Sindh or Punjab it does not hurt NaPakis.. !!
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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby sunnyP » 14 Feb 2019 22:02

Gen VK Singh : "every drop of our soldiers' blood will be avenged".

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby pankajs » 14 Feb 2019 22:03

I would think there would be many targets, expendable as well as suited-booted jihadis, within range of a Brahmos barrage.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby Zynda » 14 Feb 2019 22:10

Surely a lot of libs are gloating surreptitiously or in this case openly after today's tragedy. Won't post this sick tweet...

https://twitter.com/EisaWrites/status/1 ... 8094479365

Seems like this lady is tweeting from DU canteen according to some of the replies. What a sick lady...

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby Deans » 14 Feb 2019 22:10

Much as I hate to say it, this will hit the govt's image, as far as its `tough on national security' or Kashmir policy are concerned.
The surgical strikes should have been part of a larger policy to squeeze Pakistan. That has not happened. I don't really a pakistan policy, let alone one different from the preceding Govt. Why is it that:
- Pakistan is still given most favored nation, though they don't extend that to us.
- We don't get the 20% of water we are entitled to under IWT, much less do anything to restrict Pakistan's share.
- Medical visa policy rescinded by SS.
- No policy to ban companies or individuals that have links to the Pak army (or Fauji foundation).
- To the best of my knowledge, no disproportionate retaliation for cross border firing.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby a_bharat » 14 Feb 2019 22:18

GoI shouldn't hesitate to use areal attacks. If it escalates into a full scale war, so be it. Also, it's high time that IWT is abrogated.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby amdavadi » 14 Feb 2019 22:24

Paki will get what they full deserve in next 3-4 weeks. Expect the unexpected.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby Bharadwaj » 14 Feb 2019 22:25

The solah is tied to pakis psych as a nation. Send 5-6 rambas and baaz with intent to knock a few solahs down inside their territory. If that causes a conflict then as said above it is fine. Otherwise a bhramos barrage never to be forgotten.

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby Gagan » 14 Feb 2019 22:35

I say that a BRAHMOS should simply land on Aabpara at 10 AM tomorrow morning

That will do more for peace in the world than any other singular event in the history of mankind

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Re: Pulwama Attack

Postby sudeepj » 14 Feb 2019 22:39

As usual, when Pakistanis sense a 'strategic opening' they move. Its important to note that the 'strategic opening' does not have to be real, it may exist only in the Pakis mullah addled brain, but if he senses it, he will move. The strategic opening in this case was:
1. The US surrender in Afghanistan.
2. The bribes paid to Pak via UAE, SA & possibly world bank to ensure a few months of stability as the US washes its hands off of Afghanistan.

If India is to deter a further escalation of violence and leakage of that violence into heartland India, we need to dramatically over react, both kinetically and politically. Any offers of talks, peace etc. will only embolden the Pakis.


Any culling of cannon fodder on the LOC or the IB does not matter, because the mullah is always happy to sacrifice someone else's son in Jihad.

In my mind, we need to:

1. Hit the elite (civil, military and bureaucrats) in Pakistan who run the Jihad factory.
2. Give some sort of finality to the Kashmir issue. 370/35A that were once concessions to an untrusting local populace have become causal factors for instability because it gives a patina of truthfulness to the Paki claim that Kashmir is a dispute. Kashmir is just like any other state, now that the blood of so many Indian patriots is mixed in that soil.
3. India should start working on a war footing to develop a capability to hurt Pak using water. Withdrawing from the IWT while we dont have a capability to actually restrict the water does not achieve much, except give an occasion to meddlesome parties to interfere.
4. Hold hearings on imposing Sanctions on Huawei and ZTE. These companies are intimately connected to the PLA, and it is the PLA that is shielding the Pakis in the UN with their veto.
5. Demand that twitter, reddit, youtube, facebook ... silicon valley companies do more to restraint the jihad mania.

I have a lingering suspicion that the west has decided to use the Uighurs & the Huis against China and Pak is willing to be the condom, for the right price, as usual.


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