Vayutuvan wrote:my understanding is that there were a large number Brahmin converts to Syrian Catholicism.
Krita wrote:Christians rose to prominence only after the Travancore hae become a British protectorate. The royals were forced to give land for building churches, seminaries and convent schools and colleges
Krita wrote:To give credibility to these lies they have even brought in Thomas leeha, who has a shrine at Kalady-Malyatoor with rituals closely resembling Sabarimala
Various historians have debunked this theory of St. Thomas coming to what is today Kerala and converting the Namboodiri brahmins to Christianity. MGS Narayanan is one such historian. St. Thomas being the apostle of Christ, would have lived in the same times of Christ. The land what is known as Kerala, may NOT have been even inhabited during those days. Secondly the Namboodiri Brahmins are actually folks who have landed up from else where some time in the 8th century. So they landed up much after St. Thomas even decided to quit this world. And it was only in the 12th century and after that the Namboodiri Brahmins started holding clout in the Kerala society.
During the reign of Travancore and Cochin Kings, Syrian Christians were at-par with the Nair when it comes to social status. So I don't see why would any Nair be motivated to convert to X'ianity. The christian community would have fit perfectly with the concept of Vaishya/
(traders) in the Hindu class hierarchy, in Kerala.
Malayatoor church was actually a very normal church at least during mid 1980s. The church existed there and people also used to climb up the hill to pray. But it was only very recently (i.e less than 20 years) that the clergy is trying to ape the Sabari Mala pilgrimage. So if Ayyappa devotees wear black, the X'ians would wear a kind of saffron. The Ayyappas carry a Irumudi kettu
on their heads, the x'ians carry a cross
. Ayyappas from other states often trek the entire route and now so do the X'ian believers.
Ulan Batori wrote:Now flat owners are on Hunger Strike etc. I suppose no one believes that the order will be carried out: all laws and orders are considered to be mere suggestions in Malloostan.
The flat owners seem to be in a hard place: Rs25 L is not pennies, and may be about what they showed on their real estate registrations, but flats in nbds such as Marad (Kochi environs) are probably priced in the few crores regime
Real Estate business in KL was always a sham. I don't think there is any builder who have actually build these apartments in full compliance to the law. They also trick gullible people by promising them sun & the moon. The real estate mafia always approached people talking about investments
(i.e some thing which they can hold on for some time and dump it on some one else' head). This was what attracted many people who are not poor and already have proper houses to live in. This "investment" aspect introduced greed, and this was followed by black money.
When Modi visited the US, the FOKANA folks (I am sure you know those chaps) wanted to meet and appraise him of the situation. That is because many of the owners were FOKANA members who were in US. What the KL Govt. has to do is to clearly put up a list of owners who actually stay in these flats, and also share the price they paid as per the Sale Deed and the registration costs. The compensation should be pegged against the sale deed and registration cost. Because in KL it is well known that real estate was a place to sink in unaccounted money. The actual money paid would be way too high of what is shown in the government records.
As of today the residents have promised to move out by October 3rd. Demolition process would begin on Oct 11th.
Wonder about the inside stories on this. Highly overdue attention to real estate scams and corruption in KL, but shocking, nevertheless.
Not much of an inside story. The whole construction was done by getting a stay order on a "stop memo" issued by the Marad Panchayath, after it was found that the flats violated the CBZ norms. The stay order came from Kerala HC, and the state also conveniently did not appeal against it. The Panchayath and later corporation also only gave "UA numbers"; a term used for a numbering scheme given for unauthorised buildings. The buyer clearly knew that he/she is buying a flat which is not officially recognized by the civic agencies, but they went ahead and bought it. The flats are all owned by the usual chaps; movie stars, Gelf
based businessmen, FOKANA chaps and perhaps a few politicans in benami
The owners believed that just like any law in KL, all violations can be cancelled out by throwing money around. But all that failed in front of Justice Arun Mishra. What seems to have irritated him is that the owners had also approached a vacation bench of the SC and tried to get a stay, by hiding the fact
that Justice Arun Mishra's bench had heard the case and denied a stay. The owners also got a Bengali lawyer to plead, and the judge had asked in open court whether they were trying to influence him by getting a lawyer from his home (!?) state.
Justice Arun Mishra also had ordered handing over of some churches from Jacobite sect to Orthodox sect and forced KL govt to execute the orders. He was also the judge who threw out a KL Govt ordinance which allowed again poor
(kids of Gelf based businessmen) students to get MBBS seat by paying lakhs and byepassing NEET norms.