Very good idea..Aditya_V wrote:I hope we can use those GSH 30 6 canons from retired Mig27s and mount them on vehicles, the Chinese and Pakis will love being downrange to these.
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^ A desi C-RAM system should be doable by our industry.
Has the army or air force expressed an interest in such a system?
Has the army or air force expressed an interest in such a system?
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Recoil from the GSH-6-30 would destroy the vehicle. Just read up about the problems it caused on the Mig-27 itself. It is a hellishly powerful gun. ANd what is the use-case for this? If there is a situation which requires 30mm fire-support you are better off using a BMP which provides better protection for its occupants as well.Aditya_V wrote:I hope we can use those GSH 30 6 canons from retired Mig27s and mount them on vehicles, the Chinese and Pakis will love being downrange to these.
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Such a concept was already shown. It was mounted on a Tatra 6*6. A Google search should show pictures.Manish_P wrote:^ A desi C-RAM system should be doable by our industry.
Has the army or air force expressed an interest in such a system?
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^ Ah yes. The above mated to a tracking and fire control radar would do the job. But have the indian army and AF asked for such a system though?
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BEML bags order from Defence Ministry of Defence for Rs 423.11 crore
Written by FE Business June 23, 2023 16:20 IST
State-owned BEML Ltd on Friday announced that it has won a significant contract from the Ministry of Defence (MOD) for the supply of High Mobility vehicles. The total contract value is Rs 423.11 crore. “We hereby inform that BEML Limited has bagged an order from MOD for supply of High Mobility vehicles. The total contract value is Rs 423.11 crore,” the company said in a regulatory filing.
https://www.financialexpress.com/indust ... e/3139758/
Written by FE Business June 23, 2023 16:20 IST
State-owned BEML Ltd on Friday announced that it has won a significant contract from the Ministry of Defence (MOD) for the supply of High Mobility vehicles. The total contract value is Rs 423.11 crore. “We hereby inform that BEML Limited has bagged an order from MOD for supply of High Mobility vehicles. The total contract value is Rs 423.11 crore,” the company said in a regulatory filing.
https://www.financialexpress.com/indust ... e/3139758/
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Simplifying military logistics: Lessons from a load carrier
https://www.ajaishukla.com/2023/08/simp ... ssons.html
04 Aug 2023
https://www.ajaishukla.com/2023/08/simp ... ssons.html
04 Aug 2023
With the Indian Army placing orders for a fresh batch of Stallion load carriers, there is an urgent need to look at reducing costs.
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Toyota Showcases Special Purpose Hilux Pickup Trucks for the Indian Army
https://www.defencenews.in/2023/09/toyo ... dian-army/
13 September 2023
https://www.defencenews.in/2023/09/toyo ... dian-army/
13 September 2023
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Old news but not reported here...
https://auto.economictimes.indiatimes.c ... /101821554
Ashok Leyland bags orders worth INR 800 cr from Indian Army
The GTV order goes to ALL...
https://auto.economictimes.indiatimes.c ... /101821554
Ashok Leyland bags orders worth INR 800 cr from Indian Army
The GTV order goes to ALL...
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What type of armored bulldozers are there with Indian Army?
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Indian Army Deploys All-Terrain Vehicles Equipped with Konkurs Anti-Tank Guided Missile Systems
The Indian Army's most recent weaponry acquisition: All-Terrain Vehicles (ATVs) outfitted with Konkurs anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) systems, is garnering considerable attention.
Pictures that have surfaced from the Indian Army Southern Command show Arctic Cat Alterra TBX 700 ATVs equipped with these lethal missiles, demonstrating a formidable combination of firepower and quickness.
Comparing these agile ATVs to conventional armoured vehicles reveals a number of benefits. Because of their reduced weight, they are perfect for rocky and isolated areas where they can easily negotiate uneven ground.
Furthermore, the Army can more affordably increase their firepower in key regions thanks to their affordable price when compared to tanks and other heavy vehicles.
https://defence.in/threads/indian-army- ... tems.1376/
The Indian Army's most recent weaponry acquisition: All-Terrain Vehicles (ATVs) outfitted with Konkurs anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) systems, is garnering considerable attention.
Pictures that have surfaced from the Indian Army Southern Command show Arctic Cat Alterra TBX 700 ATVs equipped with these lethal missiles, demonstrating a formidable combination of firepower and quickness.
Comparing these agile ATVs to conventional armoured vehicles reveals a number of benefits. Because of their reduced weight, they are perfect for rocky and isolated areas where they can easily negotiate uneven ground.
Furthermore, the Army can more affordably increase their firepower in key regions thanks to their affordable price when compared to tanks and other heavy vehicles.
https://defence.in/threads/indian-army- ... tems.1376/
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^ good to see these agile mobile units.
Mahindra might be able to make such type of vehicles.
They have a tie up with a US firm to manufacture mPact XTV which looks of a similar type.
Mahindra might be able to make such type of vehicles.
They have a tie up with a US firm to manufacture mPact XTV which looks of a similar type.
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Three people crammed into a small space and sitting on each others lap is not a good way to go. Don't know where these kind of showoff like the Chinese take us to.
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Sir, i think the point of the vehicle is rapid mobility and portability of armor-busting firepower.
For firing the vehicle might be stationary with the driver and loader dismounted.
Added - in the photo, one can see the MBT in the back-ground. So maybe one can also think of this system as somewhat analogous to the 'loyal wingman' concept (albeit manned) - a cheaper, support system
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What tanks need more than anything else is reccee. Such ATV are ideal due to low acoustic and visual signature.
This is an example of the Indian army making do with what they have. In terms of 3 Jawans on a 2 seater.
It's a compromise, but the best one given the available resources.
This is an example of the Indian army making do with what they have. In terms of 3 Jawans on a 2 seater.
It's a compromise, but the best one given the available resources.
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+1. Absolutely vital element
We indians are almost conditioned to pass it off as a positive thing with that much (ab)used word 'Jugaad'
But it is what it is and it's good that our troops have a compact, highly mobile ATGM carrier which also would be heli-portable to most locations (except the heights).
Would of course prefer to see a desi company make such ATVs in India. With desi ATGM system. And export them too.
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https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1775815736373727253 ---> Ashok Leyland to supply 289 𝙇𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙍𝙚𝙘𝙤𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙮 𝙑𝙚𝙝𝙞𝙘𝙡𝙚𝙨 (𝙇𝙍𝙑) to the Indian Army. The contract value is ₹101,72,62,660
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I wish DRDO and the truck manufactures make an armored cabin which is plug in replaceable. All that glass is bullet friendly.
Makes two types of cabin : one for Ashok Leyland and another for Tata trucks.
All should have armor to resist small arms fire and a roof mounting for an MG.
Makes two types of cabin : one for Ashok Leyland and another for Tata trucks.
All should have armor to resist small arms fire and a roof mounting for an MG.
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soft top troop carriers are a curse. not just front cabbin carrier portion must have bullet proof coveringsramana wrote: ↑05 May 2024 12:26 I wish DRDO and the truck manufactures make an armored cabin which is plug in replaceable. All that glass is bullet friendly.
Makes two types of cabin : one for Ashok Leyland and another for Tata trucks.
All should have armor to resist small arms fire and a roof mounting for an MG.
there is a reason folks are pushing for AFV in millions
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What if buy M134 GAU-17 “Vulcan” cannon or better and fix it on some more ATVs.. ?..R Charan wrote: ↑02 Jan 2024 22:02 Indian Army Deploys All-Terrain Vehicles Equipped with Konkurs Anti-Tank Guided Missile Systems
The Indian Army's most recent weaponry acquisition: All-Terrain Vehicles (ATVs) outfitted with Konkurs anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) systems, is garnering considerable attention.
Pictures that have surfaced from the Indian Army Southern Command show Arctic Cat Alterra TBX 700 ATVs equipped with these lethal missiles, demonstrating a formidable combination of firepower and quickness.
Comparing these agile ATVs to conventional armoured vehicles reveals a number of benefits. Because of their reduced weight, they are perfect for rocky and isolated areas where they can easily negotiate uneven ground.
Furthermore, the Army can more affordably increase their firepower in key regions thanks to their affordable price when compared to tanks and other heavy vehicles.
https://defence.in/threads/indian-army- ... tems.1376/
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Such units also need protection from FPV drone attacks.
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It has been a belief, that, if the target can be seen, it will be hit. If it can be hit, it will be destroyed.
The solution used to be passive during the last several decades. In terms of camouflage and movements after night fall.
With the availability of drones everything and everyone is seen all the time. The solution is to develop the ability to disrupt the signals controlling the drones. Along with hard kill active defences capable of both detecting killing such drones.
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Recognizing the danger we are looking to fast track the vehicle mounted jammers, to offer a protection bubble.
alphadefense.in - Advancements of India in Counter-UAS Systems
To accompany these ultra compact ATV type vehicles even more compact (man portable) versions will be needed at troop level
IMR media - Army seeks 200 man-portable drone jammers for use in the field
Or something like the US Marines Light-Marine Air Defense Integrated System (L-MADIS) system - mounted on ATVs.
In the photo the Stinger is to knock off larger sized UAVs. For our use case we will need to have some ATVs in the squadron to sport .50 MMGs or equivalent for taking out the smaller drones.
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We already have vehicle born signal jammers for IED. I wonder how much on board electrical power will be required for those to be adapted for jamming low end drones.
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The system down in the photo above was reportedly used by the USMC to bring down a medium size Houthi drone targeting a berthed ship in the gulf.
So it should have sufficient power to jam mini and micro drones used by the enemy at a tactical, localized level.
The form factor (fitted on ATVs) suggests that on board electrical requirements are doable, especially with add-on diesel electric generator APUs.
There could also be a buddy ATV modified for providing backup power/reserve fuel.
Just like how our airforce strike packages have the strikers, the jammers and the air cover elements executing a mission together.
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In today's world of drone warfare, what's wrong with making tanks into porcupines? Just have the top of tank covered in long protruding spikes which would support some extra upper shell, or something like that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhfGspOIg24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhfGspOIg24
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Incidentally, I watched the linked video from Perun yesterday.
There is nothing wrong with experimental solutions in order to see what works in terms of dealing with emerging threats.
However, over a period of time such experiments will need to be formalised in order ensure uniformed solutions accross the board.
There is nothing wrong with experimental solutions in order to see what works in terms of dealing with emerging threats.
However, over a period of time such experiments will need to be formalised in order ensure uniformed solutions accross the board.