Modi 3.0 - Bharat

[Pratyush]

It's amazing what someone like Dhruv Rathee is able to achieve with his lies.

I wonder what it says about our population.

[drnayar]

BJP just needs to get the "environment " right for the next elections. It also needs NaMo !.. fight the election on its terms.

[SRajesh]

Low Agricultral Income has many reasons. This is now a Global issue and hihgly emotive for any Government to touch
Needs a multipronged attack to address that issue. Needs bipartisan acceptance and that is not going to happen in the present circumstance.
Middleman/prices of fertilizer/overuse of pesticides/crop swtiching to stop draining or overuse of water/transport chain for agri products/switch to organic farming/premium price for organic goods/stop only cash crop production
Most important of these is Middleman and comission and new Farm Bills
People want government to buy whatever they produce and have an MSP!!
We are going to see probably SOPs for the Farmers just before election and keep the Arthiyas going.
I dont see much movement in that regard.

[Ambar]

Saw suggestions that the BJP needs to adopt Shivraj Singh Chauhan's model of direct money transfer, especially in the context of the coming UP elections. Is that a sound economic policy?

I mentioned in another thread that Indian politics is cyclical.The abysmal situation of the finances of the states in the 80s and 90s is what led to Vajapayee Govt taking drastic steps to cut costs. Back then INC too supported initiatives like VRS and defined contribution for pensions. Once Congress found itself losing state after state, they started announcing mindless welfarism, and now it feels like a race to the bottom between parties.

After MP, BJP has now announced ;Mukhyamantri Majhi Ladki Bahin Scheme' in MH with an eye on the elections, eligible women in the age group 21 to 60 years will get a monthly allowance of Rs 1,500. Similar schemes will be announced in other states too i'm sure. INC will double or triple the amount promised by BJP as they did during the general elections.

In Karnataka, INC has received a lot of accolades for fullfiling all their election freebie promises smoothly and on time. But talk to the MLAs or their PAs or Corporators and you'll hear that the development funds have been drastically cut, this is in addition to ridiculous increase on stamp paper duties (6 times), revision of property guidance values, increased power tarrifs etc . This trend isnt reversing anytime soon, we will see more and more of these schemes in every election by all parties, and eventually we'll end up in the same situation as we did in the 90s.

[Ambar]

It's amazing what someone like Dhruv Rathee is able to achieve with his lies.

I wonder what it says about our population.

It says two things - BJP media management is abysmal and they ignored the fact that average age in India is 27, and social media penetration is now even at rural level. As for the general population, when RaGa announced "khatakat Rs 1 lakh/women/year" scheme, i was with few well-read, well established folks saying such schemes will doom us soon. And predictably came the response how is it ok for Modi to give billions to Ambanis and Adanis but we have problem with the poor getting welfare or a farmer getting his loans waived off!

I think there's a great irony that aspirational, consumeristic India is perhaps the most socialist country in its thinking where even the rich (by global standards) think those richer than them must be made to suffer to benefit the poor!

[A_Gupta]

For each of the states, what is the financial burden of what they're announcing as freebies? Also, does Rs 1,500 a month inoculate the voter from Rs 8,500 a month?

To the person who is living from pay day to pay day, I can understand the appeal of immediate relief via these schemes. The question is whether the economy can grow faster than all that? It is a deadly serious race.

[Pratyush]

Can the government of India sue a political party for lying to the public?

Or can a political party sue another political party for blatant lies?

I have never seen the government of India sue a political party for spreading misinformation. But I am thinking that it's becoming necessary to do so.

[hgupta]

It's amazing what someone like Dhruv Rathee is able to achieve with his lies.

I wonder what it says about our population.

Do not discount the massive foreign assistance (Shall we say interference?) that Dhruv Rathee got nor discount the fact that liberal media & lefties groups have been trying to deplatform many of our IT cells under the guise of fighting disinformation and hate.

We are basically trying to fight with one arm tied behind our back and our remaining arm handicapped while Dhruv is free to attack all he wants.

We need to deplatform him.

[nits]

Unpopular post...

,But BJP does not seem to learn from it's mistake...

NEET - instead of Opposition, gov should call a motion to discuss leakage and how RJD and Rajasthan Congress is involved

Airport roof mess - same comms miss, oh we did not built it. Agree but we did need to maintain it. Call a press conference state facts on who built it, say don't do politics, say we doing fast track investigation and punish guilty

Delhi Rains - Why gov not calling out Delhi Gov mess, why not stating absence of CM impacting all work, just twitter tamasha

Income tax - Middle class is your core base, paying 30% tax, capital tax, gst and what not. Reduce there burden. Announce rebate, investment benfits, rate cut or something to that affect in upcoming budget

Change in comms strategy is must have. This sitting in high horse and nothing impacts me attitude does not work and is too defensive in nature

[Ambar]

For each of the states, what is the financial burden of what they're announcing as freebies? Also, does Rs 1,500 a month inoculate the voter from Rs 8,500 a month?

To the person who is living from pay day to pay day, I can understand the appeal of immediate relief via these schemes. The question is whether the economy can grow faster than all that? It is a deadly serious race.

In the short term, certain policies may juice the economy, but in the long run, they will have adverse effects as witnessed in Argentina, Turkey, Venezuela, Srilanka etc. For instance, the provision of free buses for women in Karnataka has led to a thriving local tourism industry, particularly in temple towns. Initiatives like the ‘Grahalakshmi’ program and the distribution of 200 units of free electricity have increased consumption of both consumer durables and non-durables.

However, these schemes come with long term downsides. The KSRTC is currently burdened with a debt of Rs 4,500 crores, which continues to rise. Contractors face delayed payments, and employees and retirees suffer from unpaid arrears and delayed salaries. Additionally, the state’s power discoms, already struggling with losses and debt, will now incur even more debt due to the 200 units free electricity scheme. The State of KA spends approximately Rs 60,000 crores per year on these five welfare schemes, accounting for nearly 18% of the total budget.

Welfarism itself isn’t inherently negative, especially when everyone contributes toward common social goals in a homogeneous society. Scandinavian and West/Northern European countries experienced significant improvements in quality of life during the 20th century, largely due to well-designed welfare programs. The problem arises when only a specific group bears the burden of funding these welfare schemes. In India, where only around 2% of the population pays income tax, the responsibility falls disproportionately on the tax-paying class and corporations. Even prosperous states like Karnataka struggle to sustain such schemes in the long run, let alone less affluent states like Madhya Pradesh.

It is impossible to explain this to the common man irrespective of their socio-economic standing. Anything related to welfarism and freebies will always be answered with the anti-poor and "Adani/Ambani ki sarkar" response.

[Ambar]

Unpopular post...

,But BJP does not seem to learn from it's mistake...

Change in comms strategy is must have. This sitting in high horse and nothing impacts me attitude does not work and is too defensive in nature

They don’t learn because they believe they are never wrong! What lessons were learnt from elections? Nadda, who failed to deliver Himachal Pradesh twice, should have been retired, but instead, he has been assigned two important portfolios. The party’s IT cell continues to rely on the worn strategy of mockery (often targeting those who are nationalistic) or creating memes of RaGa with Soros, as if 99% of India even knows who George Soros is.

After 10 yrs, you cannot keep pointing towards Nehru, Indira, Rajiv, Manmohan etc for everything. Own up, fix the problems, improve the daily life and bureacratic hurdles instead of big boom reforms. A day of heavy rainfall and Ayodhya's brand new infra crumbles, and instead of owning up the mistakes, your handles mock Ayodhya citizens for voting SaPa despite the fact that it is your party which is in power both at the state and the center. There is a Modi fatigue which is fast catching up, he needs to pull back and let the state party functionaries win on their own merit or perish.

[A_Gupta]

Airport roof mess - same comms miss, oh we did not built it. Agree but we did need to maintain it. Call a press conference state facts on who built it, say don't do politics, say we doing fast track investigation and punish guilty

https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2029408

Ministry of Civil Aviation
“A 24/7 War Room will be established to ensure the full refund of cancelled flights or provide alternative travel route tickets”

“All Airlines to maintain fare stability to avoid passenger inconvenience in the ongoing situation.”

“Airports Authority of India (AAI) to issue a circular to all minor and major airports to conduct a thorough inspection of structural strength.”

Structural Engineers from IIT Delhi to immediately assess the incidents at Delhi T1 & the Jabalpur airports.- Shri Rammohan Naidu
Posted On: 28 JUN 2024 8:53PM by PIB Delhi
Union Minister for Civil Aviation, Shri Rammohan Naidu, convened a high-level review meeting today with key officials including the Secretary of the Ministry of Civil Aviation, Director General of Civil Aviation, Chairman of the Airports Authority of India, Director General of the Bureau of Civil Aviation Security, and Joint Secretaries of the Ministry of Civil Aviation. In the meeting, the some key decisions were made to address the ongoing situation and ensure the safety and convenience of passengers:

24/7 War Room Establishment & efficient management of T2 & T3- A 24/7 War Room will be established under the close monitoring of the Ministry of Civil Aviation. This War Room will ensure the full refund of cancelled flights or provide alternative travel route tickets as per availability. All refunds will be processed within a stipulated time of 7 days. Contact details including phone numbers will be provided to passengers for immediate assistance.
War Room helpline numbers:
Indigo airline
T2 Terminal: 7428748308
T3 Terminal: 7428748310
Spicejet
T3 Terminal: 0124-4983410/0124-7101600
9711209864 (Mr Rohit)
Emphasis was placed on making passenger comfort a top priority and implementing measures to handle the additional stress on T2 and T3 terminals due to the temporary closure of T1.

2. Airfare Advisory: An advisory has been released to all airlines to ensure that this situation does not lead to a steep increase in airfare. Airlines to maintain fare stability to avoid passenger inconvenience.

3. Structural Strength Inspection: The Airports Authority of India (AAI) has been directed to issue a circular to all minor and major airports to conduct a thorough inspection of structural strength. These inspections must be completed within the next 2-5 days, and the reports are to be submitted to the Ministry of Civil Aviation.

Based on the findings the need for increased safety measures and the development of long-term policies to prevent the recurrence of such unfortunate incidents will be formulated at priority

4. Initial Investigation Team Deployment: Structural Engineers from IIT Delhi have been asked to immediately assess the incident at Delhi T1. Further examination will be decided based on their initial findings. Similarly AAI will have the Jabalpur incident examined.

Union Minister Shri Rammohan Naidu emphasized that passenger safety and convenience are of utmost priority. The Ministry, along with all related agencies, is working tirelessly to ensure a swift resolution to the current challenges and to enhance the overall safety standards of our airports.

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[A_Gupta]

> A day of heavy rainfall and Ayodhya's brand new infra crumbles, and instead of owning up the mistakes, your handles mock Ayodhya citizens for voting SaPa despite the fact that it is your party which is in power both at the state and the center.

https://www.business-standard.com/india ... 171_1.html

The Uttar Pradesh government has suspended six officials of civic agencies for gross negligence following road cave-ins and waterlogging at several sections of the newly-built Ram Path in Ayodhya.

About 15 bylanes and streets along the Ram Path were flooded after rain on June 23 and June 25. Even homes along the road went under water.

Portions of the 14-kilometre road stretch also caved in at more than a dozen places.

The suspended officials are Dhruv Aggarwal (executive engineer), Anuj Deshwal (assistant engineer) and Prabhat Pandey (junior engineer) of the Public Works Department (PWD) and Anand Kumar Dubey (executive engineer), Rajendra Kumar Yadav (assistant engineer) and Mohammad Shahid (junior engineer) of the Uttar Pradesh Jal Nigam.
...
...
The state government has also issued a notice to Ahmedabad-based contractor Bhuvan Infracom Private Limited in connection with the matter.
The PWD's office order stated that the upper-most layer of the Ram Path was damaged shortly after its construction, showing laxity in the work done under top priority of the Uttar Pradesh government and damaging the image of the state among common people.

[A_Gupta]

The opposition's fake news strategy is quite good - first make fake news, e.g, that the Delhi airport collapse was part of what Modi inaugurated in March - this by none other than Priyanka Vadra. Then when the inevitable pushback happens, "you are abdicating responsibility". That it works exceedingly well is obvious even here on BRF.

If there is no reply to fake news, then the question here becomes "why aren't you countering fake news?"

Incidentally, this from 2009.
https://architectureideas.info/2009/12/ ... ort-delhi/
Can't cut & paste because it is protected content, but there was a roof collapse at the airport in August 2009, and it was attributed to (a) "bolts were removed from roof panels for repairs and not replaced properly" and (b) "not designed for such heavy winds".

[nits]

Airport roof mess - same comms miss, oh we did not built it. Agree but we did need to maintain it. Call a press conference state facts on who built it, say don't do politics, say we doing fast track investigation and punish guilty

https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2029408


Posted On: 28 JUN 2024 8:53PM by PIB Delhi



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Exactly my point see visitor count 830, same thing done over a press conference is more effective and has wider reach and gives positive talking point

[A_Gupta]

I'm probably saying too much here - but think about it, if for most of years after 1947, a set of people was eating up 85% of the development expenditure, letting only 10% reach the intended recipients, then how much vested interest there is to destroy the direct benefits that PM Modi set up. Major wars have been fought over smaller amounts. Anti-corruption can begin from the top, but will reach only so far down; it requires every level of govt and bureaucracy to cooperate. Neither Modi nor Yogi however powerful can inspect or even cause to be inspected properly every bit of construction. At some point everyone in the chain has to work properly. And even good quality construction cannot make up for flawed design.

[A_Gupta]

Exactly my point see visitor count 830, same thing done over a press conference is more effective and has wider reach and gives positive talking point

And there was a press conference. How else did I know to go to the PIB for the full statement? If you didn't see it in the coverage you consume, don't blame the government for that. That is squarely on what you and the citizens choose to consume.

[chetak]

India has won the T20 finals by 7 runs


https://www.reuters.com/sports/cricket/ ... 20169%2D8.

[chetak]

Watch to find out what the congis have been up to and the nefarious anti national forces they are aligned with


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqBmcZXX7D0


Whispers Of Dubious Tie-Ups In I.N.D.I.A Bloc: Is Hardline Islamism Mainstreamed




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The Social Democratic Party of India (SDPI), the political arm of the banned Popular Front of India (PFI), on Monday extended its support to the Congress-led United Democratic Front (UDF) in Kerala for the upcoming Lok Sabha elections.

However, Leader of Opposition in the State Assembly V D Satheesan told the media that the UDF has not reached any understanding with the SDPI.

[Vayutuvan]

And even good quality construction cannot make up for flawed design.

Our civil engineers are no slouches. In this day and age of CAD and structural design simulation software, all kinds of analyses would have been run. My money is on bad quality of construction.

[A_Gupta]

It is a vision, whether flawed or not, and a welcome diversion from the freebie culture.

Green hydrogen: https://nghm.mnre.gov.in/

Latest funding: https://www.businesstoday.in/india/stor ... 2024-06-29

[A_Gupta]

This is post-election news, but dunno if the policy is pre-election:


NEW DELHI: Not content with piecemeal Make in India initiatives in its defence procurement, the Union government has made a policy switch to buy as many as 114 Multi-Role Fighter Aircraft (MRFA) only from a vendor who is ready to set up a manufactuting unit in India for the entire aircraft.

[Vayutuvan]

It is a vision, whether flawed or not, and a welcome diversion from the freebie culture.

Green hydrogen:

Let economic viability be damned, is it?! The US and Europe can take that stance - not for long. But India has to use rupee to make every process efficient. Otherwise MII is dead in the water.

[A_Gupta]

The estimate of economic viability is there in the linked documents.

[chetak]

‘Comedian’ Daniel Fernandes’ Hyderabad show cancelled after BJP MLA T Raja Singh warned him over a viral video defaming Jains



https://www.deccanchronicle.com/news/co ... ts-1308862

[Amber G.]

Mode 3.0 Effect on UK's election:
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In UK:

Ahead of UK elections, Prime Minister Rishi Sunak & Labour Leader Keir Starmer visit Temples.
Sunak at BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir & Starmer at Kingsbury temple.





Here
Here UK PM Rishi Sunak visits BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, London:

[A_Gupta]

Good speech: Milind Deora
https://youtu.be/xVgIeTGyFMg?si=QSoxxdKcggN_ba0w

[Vayutuvan]

Mode 3.0 Effect on UK's election:
--

How? What effect?

[Vayutuvan]

The estimate of economic viability is there in the linked documents.

Hmm. Let us see. Opinion of a friend who has 125 patents - yes 125 - on gas separation (they worked in the O&G industry for 30+ years and built several facilities) is that electrolysis of H2O is the most expensive H one can have. I have no idea how it can be economically viable.

[A_Gupta]

In brief, green hydrogen is hydrogen made via renewable energy or biomass, and the belief is that they can get the cost to USD $1 per kg, at which point it is economically viable.

[Deans]

Unpopular post...

,But BJP does not seem to learn from it's mistake...

NEET - instead of Opposition, gov should call a motion to discuss leakage and how RJD and Rajasthan Congress is involved

Airport roof mess - same comms miss, oh we did not built it. Agree but we did need to maintain it. Call a press conference state facts on who built it, say don't do politics, say we doing fast track investigation and punish guilty

Delhi Rains - Why gov not calling out Delhi Gov mess, why not stating absence of CM impacting all work, just twitter tamasha

Income tax - Middle class is your core base, paying 30% tax, capital tax, gst and what not. Reduce there burden. Announce rebate, investment benfits, rate cut or something to that affect in upcoming budget

Change in comms strategy is must have. This sitting in high horse and nothing impacts me attitude does not work and is too defensive in nature

I agree. Why can't this be discussed threadbare in Parliament (which is telecast live) ? Oppn is right is saying Govt is avoiding a discussion,
in which case, people will believe they are responsible.

I disagree on pandering to the Middle class with tax breaks. Only 22 million people actually pay tax (most file 0 returns) and most of them
pay at the lowest rate. Less than 2 lac people pay tax at 30%
The GST on most items is 0. The next biggest slab is 5%.
There are innumerable forums where the middle class whines about tax. I have not seen a single post on an alternate budget where one
can show how the revenue to meet the country's desired development goals can be met.

On Civil Aviation (where I have interacted with the ministry in my corporate role, years ago) my concern is that we have our 3rd minister in
as many years. Jyoti Scindia did not continue in the ministry as he was moved to telecom - which takes time to get an understanding of and
where Rajeev Chandrashekar should ideally have stayed on.
What does `setting up a war room' mean ? The airlines will monitor their flights anyway.
Why should the minister tell airlines not to hike fares ? If the number of flights to Delhi are reduced, for no fault of the airlines and demand is greater than supply, fares go up, so that only those who really need to travel at the higher fare do so.
The minister wants AAI to submit structural strength reports of all airports. AAI runs most of them, aren't the reports available ?
If they are not, is a study going to be done in the next 2-5 days ?

[A_Gupta]

^^^ Obviously, the reports from the usual sources on airport structural integrity cannot be trusted. Therefore, IIT Delhi has been commissioned. So I understand. The war room is to ensure timely refunds or else alternative flights for the affected passengers, with no run around from the airlines. And no price gouging - I don't know why there is an objection to that. Anyhow this is repetitive, let the minister explain:

https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/De ... 347231.ece

[A_Gupta]

> Why can't this be discussed threadbare in Parliament (which is telecast live) ? Oppn is right is saying Govt is avoiding a discussion,
in which case, people will believe they are responsible.

I guess suspend the normal order of business in the Parliament and go directly to NEET.

Anyhow, this is what the media reports is going to happen today (July 1st):
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/as-parl ... ts-6006454

IMO, strategically, in order to have some substance in the debate, sufficient number of the guilty need to be identified prior to the debate. Or else huge fake accusations which cannot be rebutted will be made. To think that the Opposition is going to help conduct a meaningful debate on NEET is naive. I doubt that anyone has any meaningful suggestion on how to secure an exam conducted at 4,750 centres in 571 cities.

Yes, just-in-time electronic delivery of the question paper and conduct of the exam is "possible", but is it actually feasible, and how long would it take to implement?

Yes, maybe do away with the exam, and just impose 100% reservations proportional to population.

[Deans]

Ministry of Civil Aviation
“A 24/7 War Room will be established to ensure the full refund of cancelled flights or provide alternative travel route tickets”

“All Airlines to maintain fare stability to avoid passenger inconvenience in the ongoing situation.”

“Airports Authority of India (AAI) to issue a circular to all minor and major airports to conduct a thorough inspection of structural strength.”

Structural Engineers from IIT Delhi to immediately assess the incidents at Delhi T1 & the Jabalpur airports.- Shri Rammohan Naidu
Posted On: 28 JUN 2024 8:53PM by PIB Delhi
Union Minister for Civil Aviation, Shri Rammohan Naidu, convened a high-level review meeting today with key officials including the Secretary of the Ministry of Civil Aviation, Director General of Civil Aviation, Chairman of the Airports Authority of India, Director General of the Bureau of Civil Aviation Security, and Joint Secretaries of the Ministry of Civil Aviation. In the meeting, the some key decisions were made to address the ongoing situation and ensure the safety and convenience of passengers:

2. Airfare Advisory: An advisory has been released to all airlines to ensure that this situation does not lead to a steep increase in airfare. Airlines to maintain fare stability to avoid passenger inconvenience.

3. Structural Strength Inspection: The Airports Authority of India (AAI) has been directed to issue a circular to all minor and major airports to conduct a thorough inspection of structural strength. These inspections must be completed within the next 2-5 days, and the reports are to be submitted to the Ministry of Civil Aviation.

Based on the findings the need for increased safety measures and the development of long-term policies to prevent the recurrence of such unfortunate incidents will be formulated at priority

4. Initial Investigation Team Deployment: Structural Engineers from IIT Delhi have been asked to immediately assess the incident at Delhi T1. Further examination will be decided based on their initial findings. Similarly AAI will have the Jabalpur incident examined.

Union Minister Shri Rammohan Naidu emphasized that passenger safety and convenience are of utmost priority. The Ministry, along with all related agencies, is working tirelessly to ensure a swift resolution to the current challenges and to enhance the overall safety standards of our airports.

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As I posted, part of the problem is that there's a new minister each year. Some of the officials below him are not technically qualified e.g.
DCGA technical officials.

In the past, there was a problem with Sikkim airport, which was opened hurriedly, because the PM wanted to inaugurate it. Soil erosion
at the edge of the runway was damaging the runway and could have led to a fatal crash. I suspect there were similar shortcuts in other
structures that have since been damaged, either to save time or money.

IIT-D has professors in structural engineering, who may or may not have practical experience in doing the kind of audits they have been asked
to to (which is rather difficult, when the structure has already collapsed and a lot of debris removed). There are specialist engineering
consultants who do that. Were they not considered ?
Will the ministry put out the IIT-D report (and all the reports that airports are required to submit in the next 2-5 days) in the public domain ?
If any of the airports run by AAI are found to have compromised on safety, will the bureaucrats responsible for approving the work be sacked ?

I wish I'm wrong, but I do not believe any of these concerns will be addressed.

[A_Gupta]

Raise your questions in Parliament

> IIT-D has professors in structural engineering, who may or may not have practical experience in doing the kind of audits they have been asked
to to (which is rather difficult, when the structure has already collapsed and a lot of debris removed). There are specialist engineering
consultants who do that. Were they not considered ?

I don't think they're being asked to examine debris. They will likely be checking that regular maintenance practices were indeed followed. They may check the initial design for adequacy. (Remember in the August 2009 collapse, one of the reasons given, by the firm that designed the structure, was that it was not designed for such heavy winds as it encountered at that time. In which case, who gave/approved the requirements needs to be jumped upon.). Plus, whatever the other involved do are put on notice that whatever they put out in their report will have to pass an independent smell test.

Here is how it works

Authorities at the Srinagar International Airport began a structural safety audit of all buildings on its premises as a preventive measure days after a roof collapsed at Delhi’s Indira Gandhi Airport, killing one person and injuring eight others, officials told on Saturday.

The development follows an order by the Union Minister of Civil Aviation Ram Mohan Naidu Kinjarapu, that the airports across the country should conduct a “structural preliminary inspection” at the earliest.

Kinjarapu added his ministry had adopted “proactive measures” after the mishap at Delhi Airport’s Terminal 1 amid heavy rains.

Director Srinagar Airport, Javed Anjum, said that the airport authority had tied up with the National Institute of Technology (NIT) Srinagar to assist in a structural safety audit directed by the minister.

“We will do a detailed structural audit in consultation with the experts from NIT Srinagar and submit a report to the ministry as soon as possible,” he said.

Anjum claimed that the engineering team of the Srinagar airport did regular inspections of all the structures as a preventive measure, which were found intact and without fault.

According to him, the main buildings of the airport were constructed under the able guidance of experts from the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) Delhi and NIT Srinagar.

"Everything, including all the designs, was thoroughly checked and rectified by the experts before going ahead with the construction,” he said.
The director further said that the construction at Delhi Airport is done by a private agency, while the government runs the show at Srinagar Airport.
“In the government sector, we do the major and sensitive works under foolproof planning and execution. So, there is no chance of any mishap like what happened at Delhi Airport,” he said.

The Airports Authority of India (AAI) manages more than 100 airports in the country, including the one in Kozhikode. However, major airports like Delhi, Mumbai, Bengaluru, and Hyderabad are managed by private companies.

[A_Gupta]

IIT-Delhi:
http://str.iitd.ac.in/consultancy.html

Consultancy
The consultancy projects are undertaken for arriving at practical solutions to problems of special nature. Because of the proficiency of the Structural Engineering Section, various government divisions, Public Sector Undertakings and industries in the private sector approach the learned faculty for undertaking various consultancy projects. Complex design, construction and maintenance problems of the infrastructure sector are resolved through the intervention of the expert faculty of the Civil Engineering Department. To name a few organisations which took consultancy on various projects from the Department include DDA, DJB, NDMC, MCD, RVNL, Northern Railways, NTPC, BSES, Power Grid Corporation, Unitech, Konkan Railways, Grasim, L&T, IRCON, RITES and others.

[KLNMurthy]

@DeanS when the Space Shuttle Columbia blew up, Richard Feynmann was put in charge of getting to the bottom of what happened, though it could be said he had no practical experience. He ended up delivering a pretty satisfactory report.

Is it possible that the rationale behind appointing IITD faculty is similar to the rationale for appointing Feynmann?

[A_Gupta]

Here's an example of structural failure analysis in understandable language. The case used as an example, and the arrived-at root cause are quite interesting.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/structur ... collection.

[Deans]

^^^ Obviously, the reports from the usual sources on airport structural integrity cannot be trusted. Therefore, IIT Delhi has been commissioned. So I understand. The war room is to ensure timely refunds or else alternative flights for the affected passengers, with no run around from the airlines. And no price gouging - I don't know why there is an objection to that. Anyhow this is repetitive, let the minister explain:

https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/De ... 347231.ece

I have run commercial operations of an airline, albeit years ago. The normal practice for any cancelled flight is to provide an alternative or a
refund. All airlines understand the SOP, they don't need the ministry's diktat. The problem with the ministry giving any kind of assurance is this:
- Let's say you buy a ticket through a travel agent. The flight is cancelled. The airline refunds the TA, who does not pay the passenger. Does the
ministry pull up the airline when a high profile passenger tweets that he hasn't go his money (happens a lot).

- Has the ministry (which collects data on the ticket prices of every flight in the country) ever been able to prove that its price intervention
has provided a better solution for passengers and airlines than market determined pricing ? Or that an airline made disproportionate profit from
price gouging ? When the govt did try setting prices on its own the result was Air India.

To take a simple example (though too difficult for the ministry to understand). I have 2 flights scheduled from Mumbai to Delhi. Each flight is
85% booked. One flight is cancelled for no fault of the airline. That aircraft cannot be used for an alternate flight due to DGCA rules, so you
have a fixed cost incurred when the aircraft is grounded. Those who have booked tickets get a refund and the airline gets a lot of ill will.
The remaining 15% seats, which are are priced higher even without the cancellation. The basic rule in airline ticket pricing is `its never
cheaper tomorrow'. There is demand for those seats, from the passengers of the cancelled flight, the scheduled flight and from another
airline, which flew one leg into Mumbai and hoped to fly their Delhi passengers on this flight. So instead of the remaining 15% seats costing
twice the average, they might cost triple, so that pax who can postpone travel do so.
Even at a price of 3X, the fixed cost of the cancelled flight is not recovered.

[A_Gupta]

"All flights from Terminal-1 have been shifted to Terminal-3 and Terminal-2," Delhi airport said in a post on X.

According to officials, the incident has impacted around 21,690 passengers of IndiGo and around 925 passengers of SpiceJet."

> The normal practice for any cancelled flight is to provide an alternative or a refund. All airlines understand the SOP, they don't need the ministry's diktat. The problem with the ministry giving any kind of assurance is this: Let's say you buy a ticket through a travel agent. The flight is cancelled. The airline refunds the TA, who does not pay the passenger. Does the ministry pull up the airline when a high profile passenger tweets that he hasn't go his money (happens a lot).

I have no idea other than what is published in the press. I do read it though, unlike some. Among the remedies being pursued are within-the-airport refunds. i.e, you turn up for the airport for your flight out of T1 terminal, it is not one of those transferred to the other terminal and is cancelled , you get your money back then and there.

I think arrivals at Delhi were diverted to other terminals, I'm not 100% sure.

Also, as per the Civil Aviation Ministry, as of this morning, only 196 refunds are pending, the rest have been completed.