Understanding the US - Again

[Vayutuvan]

FWIW: This not unusual ... for any one who understands even the basics of such things.. neither Pelosi (or some elder statesman etc etc will do it right away .. they will let the 'usual' process play.

Is that a dog whistle for not following primary rules they set for themselves? I mean usual in quotes. Do democrats have democracy within their party or they are appointed by the high-command? That seems like it.

I don't much about GOP either. So maybe both are same.

Let us understand the two main parties in the US.

[Vayutuvan]

Kamla will be disaster for the Indo US relationship.

She is smart and capable to understand exactly where her interests are. That coupled with her ambition makes her a willing collaborators to the permanent Washington establishment.

This establishment has decided that India is an enemy.

We are in for difficult times ahead.

She has not been nominated yet. On July 4th, none would have guessed the turn the events would take within three weeks.

I am watching the following events.

1. Endorsements received and more importantly not received by VPOTUS Harris.
2. DNC itself.

[Vayutuvan]

... being first woman ...

I snipped all the name calling and left the important part. Harris has several advantages over H. Clinton.

1. She is only 59 years old
2. She has been VP for 3.5-4 years
3. There is a chance that Biden might actually pass the torch so that Harris can be the incumbent and pick a VP even before DNC started
(and most importantly)
4. She is racially intersectional

Let us not underestimate her popularity among the democrat voters, especially AAs, Hispanics, women, and PoC.

[Najunamar]

Actually Pelosi has endorsed Kamala, so the red herring of Obama not doing it as all ‘elder statesmen’ follow the ‘usual’ process does not hold water.

And, the contributions done as a favor or to curry favor when running a business (similar to Indian hafta) is more usual than has been indicated. I suspect the forum member is also well aware and yet makes a big hungama about it.

[Najunamar]

... being first woman ...

I snipped all the name calling and left the important part. Harris has several advantages over H. Clinton.

1. She is only 59 years old
2. She has been VP for 3.5-4 years
3. There is a chance that Biden might actually pass the torch so that Harris can be the incumbent and pick a VP even before DNC started
(and most importantly)
4. She is racially intersectional

Let us not underestimate her popularity among the democrat voters, especially AAs, Hispanics, women, and PoC.

Another important factor is she doesn’t have the same Benghazi fiasco baggage as Hillary did. Although she hasn’t been a runaway success she at least in the minds of the average Joe is not associated with a similar disaster.

[Vayutuvan]

1. She is only 59 years old
2. She has been VP for 3.5-4 years
3. There is a chance that Biden might actually pass the torch so that Harris can be the incumbent and pick a VP even before DNC started
(and most importantly)
4. She is racially intersectional

Let us not underestimate her popularity among the democrat voters, especially AAs, Hispanics, women, and PoC.

Another important factor is she doesn’t have the same Benghazi fiasco baggage as Hillary did. Although she hasn’t been a runaway success she at least in the minds of the average Joe is not associated with a similar disaster.

One more - she didn't do bleachbit her servers and hammered her mobile phones. Yet.

[disha]

^ Cackling Cow Harris will not be able to put 2+2 together. Her path to VP and now Prez has been very easy and has been paved with carpet begging and wheeling dealing. I do not have any faith that she will be able to run her campaign well. Already the donations sent to Biden is being returned. Or that is the rumour going around. Last time, a political novice knee-capped her within 2 mins. Her soup salad will be played endlessly and the voters may even end up voting for her angered at whoever has put her cackles on loop and tiring the shi-ite out of them.

More importantly, will she pick up a candidate that will win the swing states for her? With JD Vance, Ohio is gone. And with Ron DeSantis giving full support to Trump, even Florida is gone.

[disha]

Actually Pelosi has endorsed Kamala, so the red herring of Obama not doing it as all ‘elder statesmen’ follow the ‘usual’ process does not hold water.

Bombaba has not yet done. That is endorsing. He was the one who knee capped Bhaidanwa first. Pelosi and Comma,La are CA based and it is about directing the nominations.

So Comma,La is anointed and Bombaba has gone silent. Most likely Michelle for Veep. Or not.

PS: The campaign finance is with CommaLa now. I stand corrected on that on the post above.

[Mort Walker]

Do NOT forget that Kamala Harris was supporting Pakistani terrorists in 2020. She is immediately disqualified from an India perspective.

[chetak]

^ Cackling Cow Harris will not be able to put 2+2 together. Her path to VP and now Prez has been very easy and has been paved with carpet begging and wheeling dealing. I do not have any faith that she will be able to run her campaign well. Already the donations sent to Biden is being returned. Or that is the rumour going around. Last time, a political novice knee-capped her within 2 mins. Her soup salad will be played endlessly and the voters may even end up voting for her angered at whoever has put her cackles on loop and tiring the shi-ite out of them.

More importantly, will she pick up a candidate that will win the swing states for her? With JD Vance, Ohio is gone. And with Ron DeSantis giving full support to Trump, even Florida is gone.

disha ji

The minute sleepy joe announced his departure, the fence sitting moneybags and the DNC's traditional donors started to come back

Their coffers are starting to slowly swell once again

[Vayutuvan]

Do NOT forget that Kamala Harris was supporting Pakistani terrorists in 2020. She is immediately disqualified from an India perspective.
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This is incredible. I am seeing it for the first time. This presser did not get much publicity in India or here in the US.

[bala]

Kamala H is at odds with Kamal of India (BJP). She grew up identifying herself more "black" than "desi". Avoided all things "desi". Her sister Maya is perhaps a little bit more "desi", named her daughter Meenakshi, attended UC Berkeley and Stanford and passed with distinction. Her daughter Meenakshi is very bright, attended Stanford and Harvard. The democrat party is heavily influenced by the peaceful people voter base and moreoever the deep state will not allow any overtly friendly relationship with Bharat, it will be a bumpy ride. The MEA should carefully handle these critters.

Many don't realize that the Deep State in its previous avatar stripped Bharat of its riches systematically. The capitalization of many of Euro banks, UK banks and even the US banks was done from the worldwide loot of colonialism. Behind the scenes for the colonial marauders of the world was the then Deep State actors.

[Vayutuvan]

The minute sleepy joe announced his departure, the fence sitting moneybags and the DNC's traditional donors started to come back

Their coffers are starting to slowly swell once again

chetak ji, let us add some numbers in support of what you are saying.

DNC raised USD 50 million within hours of Biden's announcement that he is not seeking re-election and in a follow on post that he is endorsing Harris.

The US is going through a very dangerous period right now. Milestones that are coming up are

1. DNC
2. 2nd presidential debate (there sure is going to be one since registered democrats need to see and possibly get a win with their Biden replacement)
3. VP debate

I believe that both parties are going to pull out all stops. They are not going stop at anything to win. The stakes are very high.

Some other developments of note

1. Alex Soros and huma Abedin tie the knot
2. Alex Soros endorses Harris
3. Pelosi, Newsome, Clintons, and slew of other democrats endorse Harris
4. Obama - considered to be the smartest democrat - followed by Pelosi, a distant second - stopped short of endorsing Harris. It is interesting because she was his favorite. In fact he had to apologize for saying that she is the prettiest AG of CA which is extremely sexist.

Couple that with the amount of distrust in USSS, FBI, SDOTUS (re. Israel-Hamas-Hezbolla-Iran, Pakraine-Rooskies), "rigging" in France (sure to be known to SDOTUS) it is a very "interesting" 15 days.

"Dangerous period for the US" means it is a dangerous period for the world, considering a POTUS who is rumored to be suffering from dementia.

[Vayutuvan]

UC Berkeley and Stanford and passed with distinction. Her daughter Meenakshi is very bright, attended Stanford and Harvard.

bala ji, why this fascination with people who graduated from elite schools and have elitist mentality? I attended my daughter's commencement, the main speaker said that "You are graduating from an elite university. But be careful and not be an elitist".

[Vayutuvan]

Talking about fundraising,

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB1qr5kS

Kamala Harris smashes fundraising record with stunning $81 million haul over 24 hours
Story by STEVE PEOPLES, AP National Political Writer • 4h • 4 min read

[Mort Walker]

Kamala H is at odds with Kamal of India (BJP). She grew up identifying herself more "black" than "desi". Avoided all things "desi". Her sister Maya is perhaps a little bit more "desi", named her daughter Meenakshi, attended UC Berkeley and Stanford and passed with distinction. Her daughter Meenakshi is very bright, attended Stanford and Harvard.

No, not bright at all. Do NOT forget that Meenakshi (Meena) Harris is an anti-India troll. In Feb. 2021 she supported the "farmer" protest/uprising in NCR and was aligned with the Soros gang, Greta Thunberg, and Rihanna.

https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... d-7177174/

https://people.com/politics/meena-harri ... -backlash/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CKzt-dkpFxs ... mg_index=1

I would also add that it is highly unlikely she would have gained admission to Stanford in the 2002/03 had her aunt (Kamala Harris) not been in California state politics as a rising star.

[bala]

No, not bright at all. Do NOT forget that Meenakshi (Meena) Harris is an anti-India troll. In Feb. 2021 she supported the "farmer" protest/uprising in NCR and was aligned with the Soros gang, Greta Thunberg, and Rihanna.

Thanks Mort for educating on her political leanings. Yup not too bright in applying zee mind over happenings around the world. I find most youngsters are like this, they want to be different and cool, but turn out to be airheads.

[Mort Walker]

UC Berkeley and Stanford and passed with distinction. Her daughter Meenakshi is very bright, attended Stanford and Harvard.

bala ji, why this fascination with people who graduated from elite schools and have elitist mentality? I attended my daughter's commencement, the main speaker said that "You are graduating from an elite university. But be careful and not be an elitist".

It should be a disqualifier for anyone who has a degree in business, law & the humanities to be elected for public office - particularly those who went to the Ivy's or elite colleges. It would immediately disqualify many from both US parties. These people are the worst.

[Mort Walker]

balaji,

The Democratic Party, and most of the Republican Party, of the US are closely aligned with the established Deep State. However, the Democratic Party is also the party that supports the Urban Naxals of America for political gain. It should be noted that Harris supported the violent protests through August 2020.

[sanman]

Biden swap-out was predicted well before:

[ernest]

No, not bright at all. Do NOT forget that Meenakshi (Meena) Harris is an anti-India troll. In Feb. 2021 she supported the "farmer" protest/uprising in NCR and was aligned with the Soros gang, Greta Thunberg, and Rihanna.

https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... d-7177174/

https://people.com/politics/meena-harri ... -backlash/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CKzt-dkpFxs ... mg_index=1

I would also add that it is highly unlikely she would have gained admission to Stanford in the 2002/03 had her aunt (Kamala Harris) not been in California state politics as a rising star.

She was also caught trying to capitalize on KH's position and misuse of her influence for personal gain

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/ ... rris-niece

[chetak]

The minute sleepy joe announced his departure, the fence sitting moneybags and the DNC's traditional donors started to come back

Their coffers are starting to slowly swell once again

chetak ji, let us add some numbers in support of what you are saying.

DNC raised USD 50 million within hours of Biden's announcement that he is not seeking re-election and in a follow on post that he is endorsing Harris.

Vayutuvan ji

I had those numbers before I posted but didn't have the references to back it up

But you can see that USD 50 million in less than 24 hrs is an enormous amount.

And it also shows the panic to replace sleepy joe and find an alternative

[Vayutuvan]

@chetak ji, it is USD 100 million in 24 hrs. Reported by BBC. DNC is panicking. But who knows?

[chetak]

@chetak ji, it is USD 100 million in 24 hrs. Reported by BBC. DNC is panicking. But who knows?

Vayutuvan ji,


That's still a $hitload of money that has come pouring in

The push by those in the shadows is for michele who is being positioned as the "best" candidate and one whose "legitimate" turn it is to take a shot at the throne of the free world

Just like trump owns the RNC, it is obummer who owns the DNC, and not biden, as it ought to have been by normal tradition

obummer, straddling the DNC web like a tarantula, is slyly pushing for an open convention to "choose" the candidate and does not the favor the convention to "confirm" mylapore maami

Once the dust has settled, we need to see how India figures in their equation because one expects that trump will focus more on ukr and europe, and not so much on the asian geography/geopolitics that affects India

[AkshaySG]

It's not all rosey in the Trump campaign either, Lots of Sources reporting that they are now re thinking the Vance pick as that was primarily taken with Biden in mind and against a more "energetic" ticket of Kamala and potentially a more likeable VP ( Beshear, Kelly etc) he will lag behind

And honestly having no heard him address a couple of rallies the man doesn't have much of a stage presence.

[KL Dubey]

I'm not sure what all the discussion on Obamudu is about. Kamaladevi has already obtained the support of the required number of delegates for the gadha nomination. The money is going her way. There are 105 days left. Other than her, nobody else in the gadha party even has a campaign website. So all these speculations of Obamudu pushing his wife as candidate seem like absolute BS. Obamudu and Pelosi are not stupid.

In a way, Bhaidanwa stepping aside at this juncture could turn out to be some kind of "masterstroke" (a term overused in Bharat). Unenthusiastic voters used to seeing him fritter away the election narrative suddenly see a "dynamic", feisty alternative - the "wow, so much better!" effect. Kamaladevi will be partly banking on this.

As for Bhaidanwa, his health has deserted him unfortunately. The economy is still solid, the opposing candidate is not very attractive, and any other incumbent president in control of their senses would capitalize on these things for re-election.

By the way, check out some latest Bill Clinton videos on Youtube...he too is doing the Bhaidanwa act. In one video he slowly shuffles into a NY store, almost topples over at the entrance, then realizes he is in the wrong store, and shuffles down the street like a zombie. I wonder if there is some asbestos leak in the oval office.

[fanne]

Dhritarashtra was not stupid either. Even his name said that he was holder of the nation (that got destroyed in his watch).

[vimal]

Bill Clinton is years younger than Biden or Trump and was the president 30 years ago. Let that sink in.

[sanman]

US Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle has resigned.
Her testimony in front of the US Congress was a disaster, where she appeared ignorant and totally unprepared.

[vera_k]

Early days yet, but first polls showing Harris leading Trump are out today. Wonder if the next shoe to drop will be a change in the ticket on the Trump side.

FiveThirtyEight interactives

[Vayutuvan]

@vera_k ji,

AFAIK, GOP ticket cannot be changed. Aren't there deadlines for various states for finalizing the ballot? Why would GOP/Trump would even do that? I don't understand you reasoning, @vera_k ji.

[Najunamar]

Dems might try again to change the republican ticket through nondemocratic means, Vayutuvanji. I think there is a slim chance of that, though as it would mean complete chaos.

[sanman]

So Lefty mascot Kamala can't afford to meet Bibi in public, in order to appease her base.
But she'll meet with him more privately, when the silly liberandu-lobby aren't present




Is this how she'd behave for a Modi visit too?
Never mind, she won't be in office for more than a few months longer, anyway.

[Vayutuvan]

Dems might try again to change the republican ticket through nondemocratic means, Vayutuvanji. I think there is a slim chance of that, though as it would mean complete chaos.

Good catch ji. cui bono if there is chaos? Huma Abedin married Alex Soros who endorsed Harris right out of the gate. What are they planning for India/Modi/BJP govt., I wonder. H. Clinton and CBN are close via B. Clinton. India can infiltrate Soros if CBN is willing.

[Vayutuvan]

Never mind, she won't be in office for more than a few months longer, anyway.

My guess is that Biden will be pressured to step down or else 25th. GOPers are already asking for that. That serves Dem high-command too if Harris is their preferred puppet. She surely is biddable what with her raising USD 100 million in 24 hours. Donor class will want their pound of flesh, i.e. wartime profits. Her case becomes very strong if she is the incumbent with a good VP pick - M. Obama comes to mind. That would be an unbeatable ticket.

I sure don't like it now that H. Clinton-Huma Abedin-Alex Soros-Harris chain is public. Which side Obamas are on in this equation? Obama is a force to reckon with in DNC.

Interesting week or two ahead.

[Vayutuvan]

Dems might try again to change the republican ticket through nondemocratic means, Vayutuvanji.

This time around, GOP pasand employees in DOJ/FBI/SDOTUS may not be willing to keep quiet. SCOTUS also might start meddling so that Trump is not completely destroyed.

Look at this way. If Dems are able to get Trump on some pretext or the other, there are no checks and balances any more. That is a lot bigger than the highly public (but in the end pyrrhic) Jan 6th "attack on the legislature, the very symbol of American democracy".

[bala]

If people need an indepth view of kamala h during her youthful days and Willie Brown then 60 yrs of age and a powerful dude in SanFrancisco political circles hobnobbing with the wealthy like N. Pelosi (has 100+ acres of winery in NAPA valley CA), massively wealthy Diane Feinstein and other Billionaire friends. Tis a heady cocktail mix of influential and wealthy people for a young person to take it all in. Enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfR7Lzs_ja8

[chetak]

US Secret Service Chief quits, owning responsibility for the lapse in security of Trump

Secret Service chief Kimberly Cheatle quits after Trump assassination attempt

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/secret-ser ... -shooting/

[sanman]

Never mind, she won't be in office for more than a few months longer, anyway.

My guess is that Biden will be pressured to step down or else 25th. GOPers are already asking for that. That serves Dem high-command too if Harris is their preferred puppet. She surely is biddable what with her raising USD 100 million in 24 hours. Donor class will want their pound of flesh, i.e. wartime profits. Her case becomes very strong if she is the incumbent with a good VP pick - M. Obama comes to mind. That would be an unbeatable ticket.

I sure don't like it now that H. Clinton-Huma Abedin-Alex Soros-Harris chain is public. Which side Obamas are on in this equation? Obama is a force to reckon with in DNC.

Interesting week or two ahead.

No, I don't think so. The Kaurava Coterie actually running the current Whitehouse while Dhritarashtra Biden naps, are not going to be eager to have their current scheme disrupted by Gandhari Kamala coming into the Oval Office throne room. They'd prefer to minimize disruptions to current activities and schemes.

Likewise, it genuinely feels to me like Biden's electoral candidacy is only being swapped out for Kamala's after the shooter failed.

[Mort Walker]

The deep state will not allow Trump back in at any cost. First it was jail which failed, 2nd was the assassination attempt, now they will replace the opposition candidate with anyone who will win. Notice the prime deity Obama has not endorsed Harris. If state wise polling is bad going into the party convention on August 19th, expect Harris to be replaced. The money she raised is actually the $200M committed for Biden that was frozen & reallocated. None of those funds come to fruition until there is absolute confirmation that Harris will be the nominee.

For India, we have to wait to see who the nominee is. Much intrigue like the PRC politburo.