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vijayk wrote: 19 Aug 2024 05:06
Tanaji wrote: 19 Aug 2024 03:32 I will be surprised if BJP maintains its numbers in Maharashtra. The Powerfuls puppet Jarange has announced his intention to stand independent candidates in this election. They well all lose of course, but the main aim is to take away votes from BJP and he will succeed in that - in fact he has said so as much.

Lets see If the latest rewadi scheme announced by Mah government has any impact
How come all these people are thimbing their nose at MAD so recklessly!! Don't they collect some damaging info behind to control them? Can't we go bribe a 35-40 group in Congress that does not split the party but start questioning PAPPU and his association with foreign elements? Create a pressure group within Congress which attacks them daily, sits in opposition but undermines them. Use WB incident to create 10-15 folks in SP, 35 in CON party and 10 MPs in TMC who question their hypocrisy day in and day out on Mamta, US association, casteism ... The whole facade of PAPPU will collapse!!

vijayk ji,


Everyone knows by now that the BJP neither barks nor bites

but no one has ever dared to take a chance with the mafia queen who rarely speaks and always bites, even when they are out of power

journos and media maliks fear for their very lives

we continue foolishly to do puja to the wrong ghandhy, not accepting that both seditious traitors have gravely harmed India. Even so, there are things to be learned from them about realpolitik.

That is the difference and the reality of the nationalistic brigade and even as they continue to go to a gunfight carrying lathis
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Why with these statistics, BJP was hurting? Something deeply wrong on how BJP becoming just Modi centric has made them less aggressive, clueless on how to advertise their own achievements, just do Modi Bhajan ...

When I talked about Jan Aushadi and Ayushman Bharati to BJP volunteers, many were unaware that these programs are from center and many don't know how to enroll folks into the program. The knowledge of central programs even to BJP workers is very sparse in AP, TN, and TG
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The Lt Generals have their take on National Security Priorities for Modi 3.0

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vijayk wrote: 19 Aug 2024 08:41 Why with these statistics, BJP was hurting? Something deeply wrong on how BJP becoming just Modi centric has made them less aggressive, clueless on how to advertise their own achievements, just do Modi Bhajan ...
Vijay ji, there seems to be a serious disconnect between the numbers, perception in public about these numbers, and the fight for/againt the narrative.

Apart from the opposition, there is a lack of support within BJP towards Modi ji's track record. One need to fix th house first before embarking on a fight and unless BJP/Modi reconcile with it's leadership mess, this will only get bad.
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Jay wrote: 19 Aug 2024 09:43
Vijay ji, there seems to be a serious disconnect between the numbers, perception in public about these numbers, and the fight for/againt the narrative.
This line sums it up for me. I have commented on some of these numbers earlier. I think they should be looked at in the following way:

A. Real achievements. GeM, LPG & Tap water connections, DBT, Mudra loans.
Some of these - like Govt e-marketplace (GeM) or Swayam (free e-learning) or water connections are not even mentioned in the
Govt narrative.

B. Some are not relevant to most voters- No of airports, or minority girls in college.

C. Some are clever marketing and statistical jugglery which may not convince voters. e.g. There's no way 270 million jobs were
created in the organized sector - its largely a transfer of unorganised sector jobs to those with a EPF account. Similarly, the food
subsidy (adjusted for inflation and population) was the same in 2013 (UPA) as in 2023, The difference was that earlier subsidized
food would be transferred to states for their schemes, now the same quantity is distributed under a central govt scheme
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Jay wrote: 19 Aug 2024 09:43
vijayk wrote: 19 Aug 2024 08:41 Why with these statistics, BJP was hurting? Something deeply wrong on how BJP becoming just Modi centric has made them less aggressive, clueless on how to advertise their own achievements, just do Modi Bhajan ...
Vijay ji, there seems to be a serious disconnect between the numbers, perception in public about these numbers, and the fight for/againt the narrative.

Apart from the opposition, there is a lack of support within BJP towards Modi ji's track record. One need to fix th house first before embarking on a fight and unless BJP/Modi reconcile with it's leadership mess, this will only get bad.


Jay ji,

any credible youtube discussions, podcasts, blog posts, seminars, think tank discussions, articles, SM sources etc to understand why this lack of support within the BJP that you can point us to, or is just an ephemeral perception that is floating around

how can the "One need to fix th house first before embarking on a fight" be done, any inputs saar would be very welcome ...
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1. Do people (poor and middle class) see any difference on the ground?
2. In terms of tax/subsidies/employment - What is the gap
3. Is the Municipal/urban services still bad as UPA era or there any improvement?
4. Reduction of MNREGA payments before election - was there real reduction in payments?
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Don't know where this should be but Modiji and BJP need to expose this debauchery.

Rahul Gandhi has a Wife & Two Kids | Why is Indian Media Silent?

Sumit Peer On Jaipur Dialogues on YT, watch at your leisure..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98G0km2dDUI

Pappu is fond of cow and pig meat, but he pretends he is Kashmir pundit class.

SuSwa is at High Court on charges that Pappu has UK citizenship. Then there is media house land case which is pending on Pappu and Sonia. In UK pappu met with Khaleeda's son and also with ISI agent.
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@bala gaaru, do some of those practice is vaamaachaara kashmir shaivism? Maybe he is an initiate.
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Vayu ji, usually you look east and vaamaachaara becomes left handed. But nowadays Pappu is looking west towards Chatham house, SoreAss Headquarters, etc and his dakshinachara right handed is all stuffed with reams of meat stuff. I don't think he knows terms like "kashmir shaivism" not in his upbringing with Sonia.
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bala wrote: 19 Aug 2024 23:30 Don't know where this should be but Modiji and BJP need to expose this debauchery.

Rahul Gandhi has a Wife & Two Kids | Why is Indian Media Silent?

Sumit Peer On Jaipur Dialogues on YT, watch at your leisure..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98G0km2dDUI

Pappu is fond of cow and pig meat, but he pretends he is Kashmir pundit class.

SuSwa is at High Court on charges that Pappu has UK citizenship. Then there is media house land case which is pending on Pappu and Sonia. In UK pappu met with Khaleeda's son and also with ISI agent.


bala saar,


For those who think that dimwit has the upper hand with his high visibility, high decibel lurid speeches, both in and out of parliament, this "cow and pig meat" discussion / narrative is just a small part of a carefully orchestrated take down of the mafia family

aka, plausible deniability

such things have never happened before but the regime change in beediland has forced the dharmics to go for the head of the multi headed snake

susu landing up in court at this time is not a coincidence

Picture abhi aaaki hai
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Since there are many lobbies at work, Just like Biden, some of them are trying to remove him before 2029 and put in a place a true Manchurian candidate who can challenge Modi. Nothing to do with Dharmics. There seems to be multiple candidates in the fray. Sashi Taroor to Narayana Murthy are all making the needed noise. :-o
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bala wrote: 19 Aug 2024 23:30 Don't know where this should be but Modiji and BJP need to expose this debauchery.

Rahul Gandhi has a Wife & Two Kids | Why is Indian Media Silent?

Sumit Peer On Jaipur Dialogues on YT, watch at your leisure..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98G0km2dDUI

Pappu is fond of cow and pig meat, but he pretends he is Kashmir pundit class.

SuSwa is at High Court on charges that Pappu has UK citizenship. Then there is media house land case which is pending on Pappu and Sonia. In UK pappu met with Khaleeda's son and also with ISI agent.

bala saar,

take a gander at this pig and cow meat fetish has run in the family for generations past


Blitz Editor @salah_shoaib drops another bombshell with declassified US Govt documents from 1956 which expose food demand of Jawaharlal Nehru & Indira Ghandy during State Visit to US.

They allegedly preferred Filet Mignon (a beef dish) or similar Beef dishes!

They are supposedly Kashmiri BRAHMINS!

Shocking "If" True! Isn't it?


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https://x.com/salah_shoaib/status/18255 ... Cr0bg&s=19
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"Hindu temples repel me in spite of their beauty. I just can’t stand them. Why? I do not know. I cannot explain that, but they are oppressive, they suppress my spirit. They do not allow me to rise, they keep me down. Taj Mahal is a beautiful thing, delight to the eye and spirit"..!! - Jawaharlal Nehru

https://architexturez.net/doc/az-cf-168488
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Thanks Chetak ji for ferreting out convincing evidence. This debauchery is appalling to say the least. An image in public, but privately the opposite. Why we continue to elect such people is a mystery.
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bala wrote: 19 Aug 2024 23:30 ...
Pappu is fond of cow and pig meat, but he pretends he is Kashmir pundit class.
...
Something in me, in fact everything in me, tells me that Pappu is a Italian Roman Catholic Christian. Has aversion to everything Hindu/Sanaatana, hates India/Hindus. Visitng temples, pretending to care about Dalits, minorities, India is just going through the motions during elections :evil: Love for the above dishes stems from his mother's influence. There is nothing Dharmic about the mother and her kids :P
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chetak wrote: 19 Aug 2024 12:03
Jay wrote: 19 Aug 2024 09:43


Jay ji,

any credible youtube discussions, podcasts, blog posts, seminars, think tank discussions, articles, SM sources etc to understand why this lack of support within the BJP that you can point us to, or is just an ephemeral perception that is floating around

how can the "One need to fix th house first before embarking on a fight" be done, any inputs saar would be very welcome ...
chetak ji, a few snippets from me. I had earlier written about the very low standard of the advertisements of BJP in Manorama newspaper in Kerala. Most of the expensive full-page and smaller advertisements are all about the face of Modi. There are a single or few vague statements of allocation of X amount of crores for certain projects, with the statement "Empowering this.. Strengthening that".. etc. How many people will be able to understand anything from these kinds of advertisements? It will only help to strengthen the allegations that NDA did nothing remarkable. Roughly NDA did in 10 years what Congress did in 60 years in terms of public infrastructure, toilets, credit availability etc. But I am yet to see that in the newspaper advertisements in Kerala.

Most likely the same pattern of advertisements will be there in other parts of the country. Apparently no feedback on the lack of clarity in advertisements either. One reason could be a simply incompetent public relations team who are in good personal relationships with top BJP leadership.
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As a govt if you do good work, it inevitably means more empowerment of citizen and less corruption - therefore the entrenched privileged class called the babudom becomes your first enemy. They can make you suffer and lose seats and even elections in various ways. UP general elections under Yogi - this is what made the difference among other factors. Next state elections in UP wont be easy for Yogi or his successor.

Secondly, no amount of development can totally mitigate anti-incumbency therefore we need emotional arguments and some degree of fear mongering to win the next elections. This time there was no Ram factor since the Ram Mandir was already built. Plus the opposition stoked all kinds of fears and drove the narrative.

Thirdly, this third term may induce "what will be my legacy" syndrome, which can be paralysing if NaMo wants to be the "sab ka" leader. His legacy has to be international and leave the Krishna and Kashi Vishwanath agenda to Yogi to be fulfilled in BJP's 4th term.

If NaMo wants to leave a legacy at home, he should get the 20 odd dynasties convicted and jailed, and make Bharat a hindu raashtra and fix the neighbours for good.
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#RGKarHospital Now, will the kolkata police send a legal notice to supreme court ... :mrgreen:


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this is the illustrious history of the #RGKarHospital


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It can only be organ harvesting, perhaps for rich peacefuls from BD.

Wasn't a BD MP murdered in Kolkata few months ago while on medical visit for some treatment? Not sure if these are connected...
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Have you noticed beauty in this pic

Watch PVNR's hands compared to other congis



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chetak wrote: 20 Aug 2024 08:40
"Hindu temples repel me in spite of their beauty. I just can’t stand them. Why? I do not know. I cannot explain that, but they are oppressive, they suppress my spirit. They do not allow me to rise, they keep me down. Taj Mahal is a beautiful thing, delight to the eye and spirit"..!! - Jawaharlal Nehru

https://architexturez.net/doc/az-cf-168488
The dude was a Muslim in disguise. Was full of derision for Hindus and Hinduism. Gandhi hoisted him on Indians on British advice. Brits knew he would be ideal Uncle Tom to rule India
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It seems the lateral entry scheme has been rolled back, Doing it a day or so after RG's attacks on it will empower him and his legion

Even if politically the correct answer it does point to the fact that the Modi 3.0 hasn't really mastered coalition govt strategy.

Unfortunately leaders like Jaitely, Swaraj, ABV are just not there anymore in the BJP national machinery and a lot of its senior ministers are essentially "non politicians" like Vaishnav, Jaishankar and Nirmala who were used to majority government.

Even for highly experienced Modi and Shah it is a new challenge as since mid 00s they have always been in power with good numbers whether in GJ or in centre
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these step backs are little demoralizing. but may be need of the hour.
considering US DS and Raga hell bent on creating chaos and riots. Modi sarkar may not want to give any ammunition to the opposition. (and derail economic growth).
Govt has more information than us. I will trust them to make the wisest decision.
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Actually, voters like leaders who can brazen out their decisions, as these people are seen as strong willed. Withdrawing the right step quickly just because RG gave it a spin shows poorly on Modi and voters will see it as chickening out

Meanwhile, Whites continue to stir the caste cauldron in India by doing "research" to deepen the sense of grievance
Pronounced income gaps evident in case of stigmatised-caste business owners: new study

Business owners from stigmatised groups such as Dalits experience a business income gap of around 16 per cent compared with others, including those business owners who are from communities that are disadvantaged but are not similarly stigmatised, a new study has revealed. This gap increases at higher levels of social capital, reflecting the social processes of stigmatisation that limit the benefits that Dalits can reap from social capital, a research article titled “It’s not who you know, but who you are: Explaining income gaps of stigmatized-caste business owners in India” has stated.

The research report published in PLOS ONE journal on August 7 this year is authored by Prateek Raj, Assistant Professor in Strategy at Indian Institute of Management Bangalore (IIMB) along with Thomas J Roulet, Professor of Organisational Sociology and Leadership at Cambridge Judge Business School and Co-Director of the King’s Entrepreneurship Lab at King’s College; and Hari Bapuji, Professor in the Department of Management and Marketing, Faculty of Business and Economics, The University of Melbourne, Australia.
https://indianexpress.com/article/busin ... usiness_hp

There will always be one Gangadeen collaborating from India (in this case dude from IIMB), who will do it for prestige, without realizing the purpose the "research" is going to serve for the Whites who will quickly circulate it in Dalit groups to deepen their sense of grievance. Who from IIM gives permission to do this kind of research on caste?
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@snajyc ji,
The name is "Prateek Raj". That should tell you everything. You know which way the actor Prakash Raj flexes, right?
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sanjayc wrote: 20 Aug 2024 20:14 Actually, voters like leaders who can brazen out their decisions, as these people are seen as strong willed. Withdrawing the right step quickly just because RG gave it a spin shows poorly on Modi and voters will see it as chickening out

Meanwhile, Whites continue to stir the caste cauldron in India by doing "research" to deepen the sense of grievance
Pronounced income gaps evident in case of stigmatised-caste business owners: new study

Business owners from stigmatised groups such as Dalits experience a business income gap of around 16 per cent compared with others, including those business owners who are from communities that are disadvantaged but are not similarly stigmatised, a new study has revealed. This gap increases at higher levels of social capital, reflecting the social processes of stigmatisation that limit the benefits that Dalits can reap from social capital, a research article titled “It’s not who you know, but who you are: Explaining income gaps of stigmatized-caste business owners in India” has stated.

The research report published in PLOS ONE journal on August 7 this year is authored by Prateek Raj, Assistant Professor in Strategy at Indian Institute of Management Bangalore (IIMB) along with Thomas J Roulet, Professor of Organisational Sociology and Leadership at Cambridge Judge Business School and Co-Director of the King’s Entrepreneurship Lab at King’s College; and Hari Bapuji, Professor in the Department of Management and Marketing, Faculty of Business and Economics, The University of Melbourne, Australia.
https://indianexpress.com/article/busin ... usiness_hp

There will always be one Gangadeen collaborating from India (in this case dude from IIMB), who will do it for prestige, without realizing the purpose the "research" is going to serve for the Whites who will quickly circulate it in Dalit groups to deepen their sense of grievance. Who from IIM gives permission to do this kind of research on caste?
Our dumb babus and BJP ministers are giving contracts to Google, Microsoft, Harvard on everything inside. These scums take the data and dissect to push every caste agenda. Rajiv Malhotra has been saying this. Modi lost his will and guts and BJP needs new leadership or alliance like Mayawati
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sanjayc wrote: 20 Aug 2024 20:14 Actually, voters like leaders who can brazen out their decisions, as these people are seen as strong willed. Withdrawing the right step quickly just because RG gave it a spin shows poorly on Modi and voters will see it as chickening out
Not really. In India, voters vote for their veto power. And it is proclaimed as victory of democracy.

Modi rightly talked about 400 paar and taking difficult decisions in 3rd term. Yet, he underestimated our voting cowardliness. We all rant here about Modi, but these leaders can have much touch things to say about us as well.
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https://m.dailyhunt.in/news/india/engli ... 35986?sm=Y

US conspiracy to topple Modi
Read it in full
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https://x.com/Starboy2079/status/1826226502490358156
STAR Boy TARUN @Starboy2079
Everyone must know about this NGO. It's the most dangerous NGO of the world. It's name is :

National Endowment for Democracy (NED)
It's also called the second CIA or white gloves of CIA

This NGO was created by US govt and its funding comes from US state budget

This NGO works to save and promote democracy in the world by funding those groups and people who are working for democracy but it's actual work is to destabilize and remove those govts which don't follow the interest of the USA

It has successfully carried out regime change operation in many democratic countries including Ukraine and Bangladesh.

This NGO is banned in Russia and China and under watch list in India
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https://x.com/MumbaichaDon/status/1826273206107328842


BhikuMhatre @MumbaichaDon

Super comfy news!

RSS meeting with CM Yogi Adityanath Ji. Both Dy CMs in attendance. Defying news of Conflict, Dy CM Keshav Prasad Maurya had acknowledged Yogi Ji as CM in high regards just 2 days back.

Overall, BJP & RSS on course correction wrt mistakes in 2024 Elections. Now I'm feeling super confident of 2027 Assembly Elections. Yogi 3.0 unloading!


FLASH:

RSS roped in Haryana election too ... They will pick candidates and fight each seat by seat
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chetak wrote: 19 Aug 2024 12:03
Jay ji,

any credible youtube discussions, podcasts, blog posts, seminars, think tank discussions, articles, SM sources etc to understand why this lack of support within the BJP that you can point us to, or is just an ephemeral perception that is floating around

how can the "One need to fix th house first before embarking on a fight" be done, any inputs saar would be very welcome ...
Chetak ji, I used think this was just a perception problem, but after what's happening between Modi-BJP and RSS, Modi-BJP and Yogi-BJP, I think its more closer to a crisis than normalcy.

I do not understand the current administrations disagreement with Hindu political forces. It is miscalculating what a Hindu wants with respect to Hinduism and India and is over emphasizing the commerce.

There is still a very substantial support for Modi/BJP within the populace but they are burning bridges by not being or not coming across as being "benevolent".

Current BJP needs to go back to its roots and co-opt RSS to begin with. This is the litmus test which it MUST pass if it wants to show off another win in elections that matter. Just my opinion, chetak ji.
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BJP keeps angering it's core voters and panders to those against it. The increase in LTCG and STCG on equities will have an impact in next Maharashtra and Gujarat elections.
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Modiji is globe trotting - visit to Ukr and chatting with Zels that Shampoo Boy Tharoor is applauding (watch YT ID v=SME5UEyS_R0 ) and in Poland (YT ID v=QmAfeGSLfEw). Previously Modiji visited Russia. Keeping the external happy is one part of equation. The internal aspect requires some attention. BD and ergo WB are things to pay close attention. The US DeepState is out on the loose and baying for blood worldwide. Emperor eleven is facing dire times, missing for a long time, huge disruption in the China apple cart, Pukes are getting frisky and uppity with forays into K-land. Meanwhile the folks are waiting for some reforms a) Babucracy b) Judiciary c) Police d) Urban infra which requires a major clean-up - too many bottlenecks, old stuff, unkempt urban municipalities, power cuts, water problems, so many things not upgraded. I don't see BJP paying any attention to local issues. Roads, trains and other stuff are a given. People are wanting to see change in their local towns, cities and villages. Momentum has slowed down a lot. Need some visible new programs that people can get excited about and see that the Govt is responsive.

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Rupesh wrote: 22 Aug 2024 01:04 BJP keeps angering it's core voters and panders to those against it. The increase in LTCG and STCG on equities will have an impact in next Maharashtra and Gujarat elections.
Not only that, but with respect to how's its handling kashmir terror attacks is causing a major burn among its core supporters.
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Looks like Modi got NeverWho disease, focusing more on foregin travel and less on domestic issues like, unemployment. countering the opposition, and reviving the sagging BJP status after the 2024 elections.
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Jay wrote: 22 Aug 2024 02:32 Not only that, but with respect to how's its handling kashmir terror attacks is causing a major burn among its core supporters.
Who are its core supporters? Hindus? Hadn't he done enough for the Hindu cause?
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Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

Post by bala »

"All Politicians Are Friends" - Kangana Ranaut On Politics & Politicians
(watch YT ID v=hs0vNUxEQuc )
This tells you all about BJP vs Congrass.. All the yelling, all shouting in Parliament becomes all smiles and hugging in common areas, mess/eating places, all bonhomie together in the same cesspool, all forgotten, all forgiven, friends together. What a sham. I presume it is the same with babus, judiciary, ityadi.. And here we common aadmi expect some responsibility, some vigor, some genuine fighting spirit..

Kangana Ranaut needs to take some position of power in BJP, she is genuine and has some spunk. The BJP needs to induct some young blood into power structure, all the old cahoots are boring, staid and don't understand the demands of the new generation. I can do without a Rajnath Singh for defence mantriji. A good many mantrijis in BJP can be booted out. Only a few of them are good, EAM, Gadkari, etc.
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