Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft: News & Discussion - 30 August 2019

[Rakesh]

India's stealth fighter jet steals Aero India show; who'll make it?
https://www.indiatoday.in/india-today-i ... 2025-02-11
11 Feb 2025

The fifth-generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft plan has hit hiccups, with the government yet to finalise if state-run HAL or private giants should manufacture it

[RCase]

VIDEO: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1889584077734289801 ---> AMCA timelines by Dr Samir V Kamat.

- Aircraft will have everything that F-35/Su-57 has.
- First flight by 2028-29 and production there after.

VIDEO: https://x.com/Defencematrix1/status/1889639865823670633 ---> AMCA specifications, sensors and more.

Here we go again...
Need to have realistic objectives and timelines. Walk before you run. Set a list of attainable specifications. Deliver and then improve.

[Rakesh]

The Status of India's AMCA Stealth Fighter Project - Know From The Horse's Mouth At Aero India 2025

Do watch if you want to know about the status of Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) project as it stands at the moment.

[bala]

1:1 model of AMCA at Aero Indian 2025

AMCA is going to be India’s 5th generation fighter jet and only twin engine fighter jet to be developed indigenously after HAL Marut. The Critical Design Review (CDR) of the aircraft is in the final step towards realizing the complete structure, including the integration of weapon systems.

[V_Raman]

More evidence for the matrix

We are taking about AMCA Mk II !!!!

https://idrw.org/lt-and-tata-emerge-as- ... roduction/

[srai]

^^^
Instead of 120 at one go … going to order only 40 and then wait and see before more orders.

The quantities are too low to be worthwhile.

[Rakesh]

https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1890219848149659878 ---> Godrej & Boyce Press Release: We have signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) for Development of Flight Control Actuators for Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (#AMCA) programs. Executed by Jitendra Jaisingh Jadav, Director General - Aeronautical Development Agency, Ministry of Defence and Nyrika Holkar, Executive Director, Godrej Enterprises Group this collaboration strengthens our contribution to India's indigenous technological capabilities. As part of this MoU, we will lead the development of #Actuators, covering critical aspects such as precision manufacturing, procurement of aerospace-grade materials, assembly, testing, and creation of test rigs for qualification processes.

[srai]

AMCA Cockpit

https://x.com/VivekSi85847001/status/18 ... 8855354545

[sajaym]

I've seen a lot of members wrongly referring to the AMCA as a 5-th Gen fighter. Would like to remind you all that the official classification of AMCA is 5.5 Gen.

DRDO for the first time is showcasing a full-scale model of India’s first 5.5 Gen stealth aircraft Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA)

https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2101598

Kindly do not leave out the .5 in all future comments on the AMCA.

Please also be aware that this classification may change in future depending on the years of delay...i.e after 2 years AMCA might become 5.6 Gen and so on & so forth as per the pleasure of the developing scientists/agencies.

[drnayar]

I've seen a lot of members wrongly referring to the AMCA as a 5-th Gen fighter. Would like to remind you all that the official classification of AMCA is 5.5 Gen.

DRDO for the first time is showcasing a full-scale model of India’s first 5.5 Gen stealth aircraft Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA)

https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2101598

Kindly do not leave out the .5 in all future comments on the AMCA.

Please also be aware that this classification may change in future depending on the years of delay...i.e after 2 years AMCA might become 5.6 Gen and so on & so forth as per the pleasure of the developing scientists/agencies.

every country has its own definition of 5th/6th generations.. look at koreas first stealth fighter, its not true blue stealth as in the F35 but its successive iterations will be. same for Russian, Chinese

[Rakesh]

X-Post from the MRCA (Many Rakshaks Choose Aircraft) Contest - Episode III thread...

https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1890267313695519103 ---> Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri says that there's no "formal process" started for acquiring F-35s.

https://x.com/Firezstarter1/status/1890537219225522331 ---> Any common sense establishment would have funded an engine program, funded AMCA generously to expedite rapid development and induction, not delay it by a decade. Because to do otherwise would be to encourage imports, weaken sovereignty. Apparently, common sense is uncommon.

https://x.com/cvkrishnan/status/1890614124645658969 ---> Like many things in India happen for the sake of it rather than satisfying some fundamental needs. I’m sorry to say but the AMCA program is, for now, happening for the sake of India having a 5th gen program running. It isn’t run geared for a necessity with sense of purpose.

[Rakesh]

VIDEO: https://x.com/BlackIAdder/status/1891032553315779005 ---> Wow! Clears a lot of confusion going on regarding the full scale model.

[Rakesh]

https://x.com/SJha1618/status/1892482157177868521 ---> Asking for the cancellation of the Tejas Mk2 and/or AMCA programmes is akin to asking for a repeat of the same mistake that was made when the HF-24 Marut's spiral development was called off in favour of Jaguar imports. Tejas Mk2 and AMCA are quite literally the future of India's aerospace sector.

[Rakesh]

X-Post from the MRCA (Many Rakshaks Choose Aircraft) Contest - Episode III thread...

Don’t Be F-35ed
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/toi ... 393433.cms
19 Feb 2025

By Air Vice Marshal Manmohan Bahadur (retd)

https://x.com/shiv_cybersurg/status/1892734134319251626 ---> Some good news on the Tejas/LCA Mk 2 from Air Marshal Rajkumar. You cannot get a more reliable source.

QUOTE: AVM Manmohan Bahadur has written a nice article in today's TOI. Has written a nice article on the implications of the US's offer of the F-35 down the line. He ends the article by saying 'the GOI should push HAL to deliver on the LCA Mk2 and AMCA projects. I have some news to share on that front. On 30 January 2025, I was invited to speak to the personnel of the HAL fixed wing design bureau. After my taIk I was shown the progress of the LCA Mk 2 manufacture. All parts are being built on jigs using CATIA 5 software. Workers are looking at screens and carrying out their work. The air frame has a considerable proportion of composite parts and the finish is an order of magnitude better than in the LCA Mk1 days. They hope to start equipping the air frame with LRUs by Sep/Oct 2025 and commence ground runs around April 2026 leading to first flight later in 2026. On February 11th, I visited Aero India 2025 and was shown the full scale all composite air frame of the AMCA. After the show extensive RCS measurement tests are planned to fine tune the signature to the lowest possible figure. I sat in the LCA Mk 2 simulator and flew it with the side stick. The cockpit has a single large screen display which can be segmented as required by the pilot. The flight control computer is ready and undergoing qualification. Almost all hydraulic actuators have been indigenised and some have finished flight tests. The indigenous content has increased considerably. These two visits were heartening and shows we are moving in the right direction. We need to redouble our efforts to achieve true self reliance.

[Rakesh]

VIDEO: https://x.com/Raghunandan_05/status/1895120606628126777 ---> AMCA Internal weapons bay and landing gear mechanism.

https://x.com/Raghunandan_05/status/1895111528191533527 ---> Underbelly of AMCA. Work In Progress (WIP).

[Rakesh]

'India's fifth-generation AMCA will be equipped with sixth-generation technologies'
https://www.theweek.in/news/defence/202 ... ogies.html
12 Feb 2025

Although the fifth-generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) is expected to be inducted in 10 years, it is expected to have sixth-gen tech embedded into it, claims ADA official.

[rajsunder]

'India's fifth-generation AMCA will be equipped with sixth-generation technologies'
https://www.theweek.in/news/defence/202 ... ogies.html
12 Feb 2025

Although the fifth-generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) is expected to be inducted in 10 years, it is expected to have sixth-gen tech embedded into it, claims ADA official.

No one, I mean no one has yet defined what all technologies constitute 6th gen, but our sarkari babu's know what they are and are going to embed them in AMCA. controlling oneself from using BC/MC after reading these foolish articles is too much to ask.

[Rakesh]

https://x.com/shreedharsingh9/status/18 ... 8283740239 ---> DRDO is developing stealthy air intake for AMCA and Ghatak programs.

[Ankit Desai]

New JV Coy to Make AMCA



-Ankit

[Rakesh]

New JV Coy to Make AMCA

-Ankit

Please do not post youtube videos without a description. Thank You.

[Ankit Desai]

India to step on the gas for indigenous 5th gen fighter

India plans to 'accelerate' the development and induction of its own ambitious fifth-generation stealth fighter jet, with a top-level committee now working to evolve a clear-cut strategy and production-cum-business model for the AMCA.

...the committee's aim is to "devise how best to get AMCA from the drawing board into the air by shrinking timelines and improving efficiency, including a good workable production-cum-business model with much greater private sector participation

The committee will also consider the plan for indigenous development of a 110 kilonewton thrust-class engine to power the 25-tonne AMCA with foreign technology collaboration. Aero-engine majors like US General Electric, French Safran and British Rolls-Royce are in the fray for this. The new panel was formed after another defence secretary-led committee chalked out a detailed roadmap for IAF's "all-round capability enhancement" to plug existing operational gaps in a time-bound manner. The report was presented to defence minister Rajnath Singh on March 3

-Ankit

[Rakesh]

Not another committee

India to step on the gas for indigenous 5th generation fighter
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 090404.cms
17 March 2025

India is accelerating the development of its fifth-generation stealth fighter jet, AMCA, to counter emerging threats from Pakistan and China. A top-level committee is working on strategies to improve efficiency and shorten production timelines, with a focus on greater private sector involvement.

[A Deshmukh]

till the engine is finalized (and project sanctioned/contract signed), all the aggressive timelines have a potential to derail.

[srai]

Anantha Krishnan M
@writetake

Feb 11, 2025


https://x.com/writetake/status/18889663 ... 03/photo/1

This is possibly the first image or model of India's #AMCA seen outside an exhibition area or lab, engaged in real development activities.

Here, #AMCA is at #DRDO National Test Facility -- the Aeronautical Test Range (#ATR) in Challakere, near Chitradurga, Karnataka.

In this undated image, an #AMCA scale model is undergoing testing at the ATR facility, under the command of the Aeronautical Development Establishment (ADE).

We are getting there...

[Ankit Desai]

https://x.com/DefenceMinIndia/status/19 ... 9130594523

In a significant push towards enhancing India’s indigenous defence capabilities and fostering a robust domestic aerospace industrial ecosystem, Raksha Mantri Shri @rajnathsingh has approved the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) Programme Execution Model. Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) is set to execute the programme through Industry partnership.

This is an important step towards harnessing the indigenous expertise, capability and capacity to develop the AMCA prototype, which will be a major milestone towards Aatmanirbharta in the aerospace sector.

-Ankit