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gakakkad wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 18:32
We need to figure out why pak is needed to whack Iran .
I think best for the world is Ayatollah flees and no additional intervention is needed
I doubt Khameni will do that.
My fear is that post our missile success in Op Sindoor, Air HQ will do a re-think of 42 squadrons for the IAF. The MRFA will still be alive (heaven forbid for Air HQ if they shut down that contest! ) but our local programs (follow on Mk1A order + Mk2) will suffer. If Mk2 goes the way of the dodo bird, AMCA will be DOA (Dead On Arrival).
Will they give up on that number or really start to push for it? Methinks sophisticated well integrated and extensive ADS with various radar types (voronez, nebo, gravestone, green pine, krtr, rajrndra etc.) backed with variety of SAMs, EW and guns, might be a more asymmetric and cheaper way to deal with this menace
Having said this India will need effective offensive systems that can breakthrough Chinese and Pakistani ADS. Hypersonics, brahmos variants, Stealthy UCAVs and flying wingman types.
Such assets might be better investments along with top quality surveillance platforms than just trying to fight fire with fire ( stealth vs stealth). Manned fighter platforms could well end up being obsolete in the near future.
My fear is that post our missile success in Op Sindoor, Air HQ will do a re-think of 42 squadrons for the IAF. The MRFA will still be alive (heaven forbid for Air HQ if they shut down that contest! ) but our local programs (follow on Mk1A order + Mk2) will suffer. If Mk2 goes the way of the dodo bird, AMCA will be DOA (Dead On Arrival).
Possible but it's more likely that the government and babus will now take the aircrafts acquisition more leisurely.
The IAF vs IAF rivalry will grow. The IAF will ask for more share of the budget for missiles to destroy runways and air space denial to keep the PAF grounded. And extrapolate it to China (we can't match the Chinese PLAAF in numbers so let's stop them from taking off)
It will be interesting to see the IAF vision for their force structure in the 2040s. How many squadrons of armed HALEs/MALE do they have in mind. Will they eat up into the 42 squadrons number or will it be 42 squadrons of manned aircraft + 'n' squadrons of unmanned UCAVs.
(My jingo mind wants 'n' to be equal or more than 'm')
Rakesh
In the IAF of 2040's is there a place for a Bomber Squadron.
Somtheing that can deliver all sorts of Mangoes and Watermelons!! to all and sundry.
Or will the IAF/Strategic Command decide only on the mijjiles especially some extra interest in the Hypersonic variety!
SRajesh wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025 15:27
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Or will the IAF/Strategic Command decide only on the mijjiles especially some extra interest in the Hypersonic variety!
Another growing concern stems from Pakistan. US intelligence agencies have assessed that Pakistan is actively developing an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) capable of reaching the continental United States.
What is ICBM?
ICBM is a long-range missile with a reach exceeding 5,500 kilometers (3,400 miles), primarily designed to deliver nuclear payloads—typically one or more thermonuclear warheads. While ICBMs are theoretically capable of carrying conventional, chemical, or biological weapons, such payloads have never been operationally deployed on these systems.
Modern ICBMs often feature multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles (MIRVs), enabling a single missile to deliver several warheads to different targets simultaneously.
Countries currently known to possess operational ICBMs include the United States, Russia, China, France, the United Kingdom, India, Israel, and North Korea. Pakistan, despite being a nuclear-armed nation, remained the only such state without an ICBM capability.Advancements in missile technology, such as those seen in second- and third-generation systems like the U.S. LGM-118 Peacekeeper, significantly increased accuracy, allowing ICBMs to hit even small, fortified targets with high reliability.
ICBMs stand apart from other ballistic missile classes due to their extended range and faster speed. They surpass intermediate-range ballistic missiles (IRBMs), medium-range ballistic missiles (MRBMs), short-range ballistic missiles (SRBMs), and tactical ballistic missiles in both capability and strategic impact.
Is Pakistan building an ICBM?
According to a report by Foreign Affairs, the Pakistani military is pursuing a nuclear-armed ICBM, particularly in the wake of Operation Sindoor that took place in May.
While Islamabad maintains that its nuclear program is aimed solely at deterring India—its conventionally superior neighbor—US intelligence agencies have assessed that Pakistan is actively developing an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) capable of reaching the continental United States.
By pursuing such long-range capabilities, Pakistan may be attempting to deter potential US actions—whether a preemptive strike on its nuclear facilities or intervention in a future conflict with India.
Change in US strategy?
US officials have pointed out, the acquisition of ICBMs capable of targeting American territory would compel Washington to categorize Pakistan as a nuclear threat. Historically, no nation with such reach has been treated as an ally by the United States. In effect, the threat of nuclear escalation now shadows every region central to US strategic interests.
While each emerging nuclear adversary—Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran—poses a significant threat on its own, the prospect of coordination or strategic collusion among them presents a far more alarming challenge.
Another growing concern stems from Pakistan. US intelligence agencies have assessed that Pakistan is actively developing an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) capable of reaching the continental United States.
Basically this looks like Trumps plan to denuclearization. First, maybe sure Iran doesn't get em and then denude Pakistan. Iirc the Israelis did say Pakistan was next..Op sindoor continues.
) but our local programs (follow on Mk1A order + Mk2) will suffer. If Mk2 goes the way of the dodo bird, AMCA will be DOA (Dead On Arrival).
