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Cyrano wrote: 07 Jul 2025 12:40 At a very young age, learning capacity is at it's best. I don't see a problem with toddlers ability to learn Samskrutham. The limiting factor will be good teachers in numbers and suitable pedagogical content. On the latter, e-learning will be of great help.
IMO meeting the requirement by examination may be considered if teachers are in short supply.

Since Mumbaiya Hindi is widely spoken in parts of Maharashtra, Tthis approach will also help with the Hindi question, I feel, if students are allowed to demonstrate proficiency in Mumbaiya Hindi via an examination.
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drnayar wrote: 02 Jul 2025 17:36
chetak wrote: 01 Jul 2025 20:59 Rare earth elements found in Telangana coal mines, search expands nationwide: Report







https://www.financialexpress.com/busine ... t-3898014/
brittanica says : An economically viable source should contain more than 5 percent rare earths, unless they are mined with another product—e.g., zirconium, uranium, or iron—which allows economic recovery of ore bodies with concentrations of as little as 0.5 percent by weight
That 5% threshold is a general benchmark, but economic viability depends on several factors — including REE concentration, host mineralogy, depth, extraction costs, and co-located resources. In cases where REEs are co-mined with coal, iron, or other bulk commodities, even 0.5–1% concentrations can be viable, especially if recovery is integrated with existing mining infrastructure. Plus, with India’s strategic push to reduce REE import dependence, even lower-grade deposits may be worth developing.
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BRICS leaders, along with invited guests at BRICS Rio summit..
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PM Modi's Gift to Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago Kamla Persad-Bissessar
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Amber G. wrote: 08 Jul 2025 02:05
That 5% threshold is a general benchmark, but economic viability depends on several factors — including REE concentration, host mineralogy, depth, extraction costs, and co-located resources. In cases where REEs are co-mined with coal, iron, or other bulk commodities, even 0.5–1% concentrations can be viable, especially if recovery is integrated with existing mining infrastructure. Plus, with India’s strategic push to reduce REE import dependence, even lower-grade deposits may be worth developing.
Take a look at the ecological impact of REE mining:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/id ... 07b597c8d9

Given the utter lawlessness of mining industry in India, we would have this x5.
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Tanaji wrote: 08 Jul 2025 14:52
Amber G. wrote: 08 Jul 2025 02:05
That 5% threshold is a general benchmark, but economic viability depends on several factors — including REE concentration, host mineralogy, depth, extraction costs, and co-located resources. In cases where REEs are co-mined with coal, iron, or other bulk commodities, even 0.5–1% concentrations can be viable, especially if recovery is integrated with existing mining infrastructure. Plus, with India’s strategic push to reduce REE import dependence, even lower-grade deposits may be worth developing.
Take a look at the ecological impact of REE mining:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/id ... 07b597c8d9

Given the utter lawlessness of mining industry in India, we would have this x5.
Now some people may understand why the Americans prefer to import rather than mine (regretfully they never allowed for chinese malevolence but that is a story for another day).
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Lisa wrote: 08 Jul 2025 20:09
Tanaji wrote: 08 Jul 2025 14:52

Take a look at the ecological impact of REE mining:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/id ... 07b597c8d9
Now some people may understand why the Americans prefer to import rather than mine (regretfully they never allowed for chinese malevolence but that is a story for another day).
I have discussed some aspects of REE wrt to India in other dhaga's. some comments here:

The story from Bayan Obo in Inner Mongolia paints a powerful image: massive scars on the earth, toxic waste ponds, and dust clouds rising from the world’s largest rare earth mine — all feeding our smartphones, EVs, and wind turbines.

China’s dominance in rare earth mining and refining (60–70% of global production, 90% of processing) gives it huge geopolitical leverage. And yes, the environmental toll is real — radioactive tailings, polluted water, and health risks in mining zones. Journalists facing pushback on the ground only underscore how sensitive this issue is in China.

But we should be careful not to treat this as just a “China problem.”

Rare earth mining is inherently messy, wherever it’s done.
The U.S. and India have both tried expanding REE production (e.g., Mountain Pass in the U.S., IREL in India), but costs, permitting, and local opposition slow progress. China's dominance partly exists because others stepped back decades ago.

That said, change is coming:

The U.S., India, Australia, and Japan are forming REE supply partnerships.

Recycling and cleaner processing methods are gaining traction.

Strategic stockpiling and alternative tech are also on the table.

Yes, we should call out unsafe and unsustainable mining practices. But we also need a broader conversation about cleaner sourcing, global responsibility, and innovation in REE alternatives — or we’ll just be shifting the pollution elsewhere.
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Brazil to confer its highest honour ‘Grand Collar of the National Order of the Southern Cross’ on Indian PM Modiji
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Amber G. wrote: 09 Jul 2025 00:13 Yes, we should call out unsafe and unsustainable mining practices. But we also need a broader conversation about cleaner sourcing, global responsibility, and innovation in REE alternatives — or we’ll just be shifting the pollution elsewhere.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_fallacy
The Netherlands fallacy refers to an error Paul R. Ehrlich and his co-authors claim others make in assuming that the environmental impacts of the Netherlands and other rich nations are contained within their national borders.[1]

Environmentalists since the late 20th century have analyzed the environmental sink status and sink capacities of poor nations. As polluting industries migrate from rich to poor nations, the national ecological footprint of rich nations shrinks, whereas the international ecological footprint may increase or also decrease. The nature of the fallacy is to ignore increasing environmental damage in many developing nations and in international waters attributable to the imported goods or changes in the economy of such nations directly due to developed nations.

Such an approach may lead to incorrect assertions such as the environmental impact of a particular developed country is reducing, when a holistic, international approach suggests the opposite. This may in turn support over-optimistic predictions toward the improvement of global environmental conditions.[2]

The Netherlands has had a huge impact regarding leaving water footprints across the world. They have made this footprint by importing water from other countries, leaving increasingly scarce regions. Water footprints of a country can come from either water resources used internally or resources that are outsourced. Dutch consumers have left most of their water footprint through agricultural goods and industrial goods.[3]
EVs are not as environmentally friendly as they are made out to be. They need electricity generation on top of REEs whose mining has very bad consequences.
(OT so I will stop)
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Lisa wrote: 08 Jul 2025 20:09
Tanaji wrote: 08 Jul 2025 14:52

Take a look at the ecological impact of REE mining:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/id ... 07b597c8d9

Given the utter lawlessness of mining industry in India, we would have this x5.
Now some people may understand why the Americans prefer to import rather than mine (regretfully they never allowed for chinese malevolence but that is a story for another day).
Same is true for bulk drugs, dyes and other polluting industries.
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The exaggerated and undeserved focus on CO2 and climate change has actually done a disservice to real factors that damage the environment like mining and chemical industries etc. India's position is a bit neither here nor there but we too have defocused on tackling pollution issues I feel.
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I don't know how many of the members here were aware of a Bharath Bandh called by (mainly leftist trade unions) against revamping & codification of all old trade union & industry laws into four specific codes. 29 Labour laws, are now made into 4 codes. For me today was a normal working day, and a Bangalore based colleague of mine told "yeah..I saw some news head line about the Bandh, but that is it". Another lady colleague from Tamil Nadu, said neither she nor her parents were even aware of this all-India Bandh and life was going on just as usual.
But...
Shops vandalised, journalists attacked during general strike in Thrissur (Kerala)

Bharat Bandh: University exams cancelled, KSRTC buses blocked across Kerala

Just shows how the rest of India is moving on with life, while one state (and its people) cling on outdated and redundant idelogoies. What impact did this Bandh have? People rarely go to banks to do transactions (UPI & Online banking is there). What impact can be achieved by blocking roads, when folks in IT/ITES can work from home (for their capitalist/bourgeouis employers) and stick to their plans. People also need not queue up in bus stands, and railway stations to book tickets; they can do all that online. And the biggest question; what impact does this bandh done in the least industrialised state have in the rest of India.

Note to self; have these four labour codes become the law of the land? Or are they just in the bill stage? Need to check.
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vera_k wrote: 08 Jul 2025 01:37
Cyrano wrote: 07 Jul 2025 12:40 At a very young age, learning capacity is at it's best. I don't see a problem with toddlers ability to learn Samskrutham. The limiting factor will be good teachers in numbers and suitable pedagogical content. On the latter, e-learning will be of great help.
IMO meeting the requirement by examination may be considered if teachers are in short supply.

Since Mumbaiya Hindi is widely spoken in parts of Maharashtra, Tthis approach will also help with the Hindi question, I feel, if students are allowed to demonstrate proficiency in Mumbaiya Hindi via an examination.
In practice this version of hindi was accepted even during my school days.
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The Gandhian Confusion

V D Savarkar



and, guess who was casteist ...... ..... :mrgreen:


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Jealous liberals will mock almost anything Modi ji does or gets

Now they mock him for getting honors from foreign govts

In 2005, Oxford gave Manmohan Singh an honorary degree

MMS was so excited that he started praising British Empire for occupying India

This was UPA!

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Another award to be conferred on PM Modi

Just in: Indian PM Modi to be conferred with Namibia's highest civilian award - 'Order of the Most Ancient Welwitschia Mirabilis'

https://x.com/sidhant/status/1942920840254980318

// wondering if these awards are for India thrashing Pak and taking out Chinese and uhmm... US C&C build out in Operation Sindoor.
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Congress : Why Modi is travelling to Unknown African nations

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bala wrote: 10 Jul 2025 20:57 Another award to be conferred on PM Modi

Just in: Indian PM Modi to be conferred with Namibia's highest civilian award - 'Order of the Most Ancient Welwitschia Mirabilis'

https://x.com/sidhant/status/1942920840254980318

// wondering if these awards are for India thrashing Pak and taking out Chinese and uhmm... US C&C build out in Operation Sindoor.


bala saar,

one would think that it was because of India's vaccine generosity (where many black countries benefitted, when they had no hope of ever getting gora vaccines), food aid, and quick response to emergencies in other countries like floods and earthquakes, including scum and dirtbag countries like turkey

Modi ji has not politicised these situations for India's gain

Despite hostile attitudes toward India, Modi has financially and in other ways supported countries like lanka and maldives.

And in today's cynical world, that certainly counts for something
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chetak wrote: 10 Jul 2025 23:13 And in today's cynical world, that certainly counts for something
Good points chetak saar, I was going strictly on "recent things in memory land" by nations. Africa, in general, is realizing the worth of India, some of them have a bad aftertaste dealing with China. In many areas, the Chinese have swooped into African mineral resources and made a mess of the place in terms of labor, environment and extortion. The populace are tired of cheap china made goods that don't work after say a year. India is currently ruling the roost on motorcycles and scooters in Africa, since they are reliable and sturdy with costs being lower than Japanese, US/Euro maal. Modiji is working on nation by nation in Africa to get them on India's side. The Global south wants/yearns for leadership from India. Africa can count on leadership, true partnership and win-win with India compared to the prior colonialist looters and now China looters in Africa.
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Meanwhile: From News and videos:
- Shocking and shameful statement by Punjab CM Bhagwant Mann says ,
PM has gone somewhere. I think it is Ghana. He is going to be back and he is welcome. God knows which countries he keeps visiting, 'Magnesia', 'Galveaisa', 'Tarvesia'. He does not stay in a country with 140 crore people. He is visiting countries where the population is 10,000 and he is getting the 'highest awards' there. Here, 10,000 people gather to watch a JCB... What has he gotten himself into!
..."

Hope he is issues a public apology!

Also: India’s Ministry of External Affairs slams Punjab’s Aam Aadmi Party Chief Minister Bhagwant Mann for his racist attack on India’s friendly countries in the Global South. Mann had mocked the countries calling them with derogatory names.

These remarks are irresponsible and regrettable and do not behove the state authority. Government of India disassociates itself from such unwarranted comments that undermine India’s ties with friendly countries.
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VKumar wrote: 09 Jul 2025 02:59 Same is true for bulk drugs, dyes and other polluting industries.
That is interesting. We can't live without them nor can we live with them. Dyes are required for paints which prevent rust. Not a chemical engineer but do dyes have any functional uses or are they simply for aesthetics? (OT sorry)
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In this crackdown there is anamoly in the nation on aadhar card..

Aadhaar Anamoly in Bihar! 120% cards in 4 border districts... What about WB?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aDLmV7WUI4

I am presuming WB is 200% since BD citizens are parked there.

// India needs to clean up this mess and make it hard for those from outside do not get an Aadhar card.
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Just to be clear:
Aadhaar is a 12-digit ID number given to people living in India. It’s used to prove who you are and where you live, but it doesn’t prove you're an Indian citizen. Anyone who’s lived in India for at least 182 days in the past year—whether an Indian citizen or not (includes Indian citizens, foreign nationals, OCI cardholders, and even stateless persons (see note below) residing in India - as long as they meet the 182-day rule)—can get one. It’s used for things like getting subsidies, opening bank accounts, or getting a mobile SIM. The Supreme Court has said Aadhaar can’t be forced for everything, especially not by private companies or for essential services.

There are reports that Go is going forward,to make it very hard for illegal immigrants to get Aadhaar.

AFAIK (according to reports) there’s been talk of an “Aadhaar anomaly” in Bihar’s border areas—like Kishanganj and Araria—where somehow more Aadhaar cards were issued than the actual number of people living there. That’s raised questions about fake or duplicate enrollments, or cards being given to people who aren’t supposed to have them. Some think it could be tied to politics or voter roll manipulation. In contrast, nothing like this has been reported in West Bengal, though there have been complaints about Aadhaar cards being temporarily deactivated for some communities there—but officials say those were just technical issues.
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Amber G. wrote:It’s used for things like getting subsidies, opening bank accounts, or getting a mobile SIM. The Supreme Court has said Aadhaar can’t be forced for everything, especially not by private companies or for essential services.
The root cause for the current mess in the SIR done by EC in Bihar is because of undefined uses of Aadhaar. In yesterday's hearing in Supreme Court the court observed - "If I want a caste certificate, I show my Aadhaar. A document like Aadhaar, considered basic for getting other documents, is not part of the 11 documents? Caste certificate is one of the documents among the 11, but not Aadhaar? The entire exercise of SIR is about identity only. You want to know whether this person is A or B". That is; Aadhaar is considered proof to get some other documents, which Election Commission finds it a valid proof of identity 8).

And from the news report looks like the Supreme Court has issued a mandatory directive to EC to consider Aadhaar Card as a valid proof of identity. Now, the only way for EC would be work with UIDAI and try to see if in suspected cases identity can be confirmed by fingerprint matching or IRIS matching. This cannot be done online, and may need physical booths where the "suspects" (?) can come with the Aadhaar Card, and then also give their finger prints to confirm their identity.
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bala wrote: 10 Jul 2025 23:32
chetak wrote: 10 Jul 2025 23:13 And in today's cynical world, that certainly counts for something
Good points chetak saar, I was going strictly on "recent things in memory land" by nations. Africa, in general, is realizing the worth of India, some of them have a bad aftertaste dealing with China. In many areas, the Chinese have swooped into African mineral resources and made a mess of the place in terms of labor, environment and extortion. The populace are tired of cheap china made goods that don't work after say a year. India is currently ruling the roost on motorcycles and scooters in Africa, since they are reliable and sturdy with costs being lower than Japanese, US/Euro maal. Modiji is working on nation by nation in Africa to get them on India's side. The Global south wants/yearns for leadership from India. Africa can count on leadership, true partnership and win-win with India compared to the prior colonialist looters and now China looters in Africa.


bala saar,

Don't forget that Modi ji invited them to the G-20 held in India and got the African Union permanent membership of the G-20 under his presidency

That's out of the box thinking.

the uppity and racist colonial goras who had plundered the africans in the centuries past, enslaved them, treated them as sub human, ( france continues to plunder them even today) were flummoxed onlee ...... ..... :mrgreen: but they couldn't/can't show it publicly

https://www.thehindu.com/news/internati ... 287988.ece
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Sachin wrote: 11 Jul 2025 11:30 The root cause for the current mess in the SIR done by EC in Bihar is because of undefined uses of Aadhaar. In yesterday's hearing in Supreme Court the court observed - "If I want a caste certificate, I show my Aadhaar. A document like Aadhaar, considered basic for getting other documents, is not part of the 11 documents? Caste certificate is one of the documents among the 11, but not Aadhaar? The entire exercise of SIR is about identity only. You want to know whether this person is A or B". That is; Aadhaar is considered proof to get some other documents, which Election Commission finds it a valid proof of identity 8).

And from the news report looks like the Supreme Court has issued a mandatory directive to EC to consider Aadhaar Card as a valid proof of identity. Now, the only way for EC would be work with UIDAI and try to see if in suspected cases identity can be confirmed by fingerprint matching or IRIS matching. This cannot be done online, and may need physical booths where the "suspects" (?) can come with the Aadhaar Card, and then also give their finger prints to confirm their identity.
Is the SC asking Aadhaar to be used for cross-verifying if an individual is *already in* in the EC voter list?
(Or)
Are they asking residents to be added to voter lists simply based on Aadhaar?

If its the latter, that's grossly illegal
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SC has "suggested" that Adhaar be considered, not "mandated" or "instructed". ECI is an independent constitutional body and has the right to determine which documents are to be considered.
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An apt award from Namibia for the Prime Minister of Bharat!

The Welwitschia Mirabilis is a beautiful plant that lives for thousands of years, in extremely hostile conditions.

And it is indeed Ancient, since it has been around since the time of the dinosaurs!



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^^But Chetakji
Haven't you noticed that the knives are out!!
Now the new Modus Operandi is the magical 75
The opposition are targeting Modiji and RSS chief given that both are going to 75 'Come September'( Sorry I just couldn't resist it given that we are talking about young and old :lol: :lol: )
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This is about the BJP Govt in Delhi.

A landmark reform. After 45 years, the Delhi Police will no longer issue licenses for restaurants, hotels, guesthouses, swimming pools, discotheques, amusement parks, video game parlours, and auditoriums. These powers, first conferred in 1980, have now rightly been withdrawn. This is a vital step in ease of doing business and promoting trust in enterprise. Less regulation means more growth, more jobs, and a more vibrant city economy. India must now build on this momentum. We need many more such reforms in States to realise the full promise of PM @narendramodi vision of ease of living. Congrats @LtGovDelhi for driving this reform.

https://x.com/amitabhk87/status/1943589995262214210
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SRajesh wrote: 11 Jul 2025 16:46 ^^But Chetakji
Haven't you noticed that the knives are out!!
Now the new Modus Operandi is the magical 75
The opposition are targeting Modiji and RSS chief given that both are going to 75 'Come September'( Sorry I just couldn't resist it given that we are talking about young and old :lol: :lol: )

SRajesh ji,

It will be a disaster of unimaginable proportions.

the goras, cheen, and the pakis are all desperately looking for a regime change, so why would the BJP foolishly hand it to them on a plate and that too, needlessly. It not as though India has a biden on their hands

we should not forget that Operation Sindoor has multiple dimensions, that encompass various external, as well as, internal threat perceptions

IMO, there is no suitable replacement to tackle the jihadis in up or handle the complex and fluid geopolitical

this एक तीर से दो निशान agenda should not be allowed to consume the Indian civilization and give up the hard fought gains achieved since 2014

Bhagwat ji, the RSS chief, runs his own organization. He has the freedom to plan his own retirement and succession. His personal or even official views on retirement are certainly not binding on others.

any interference of the political ecosystem in dilli or up will be nothing short of hara kiri in both places

BTW, SRajesh ji, in case people have forgotten, the knives have been out since 7 October 2001..................... ................ :mrgreen:


but in all this, there is one greedy, grasping, devious claimant from within the govt itself, a senior minister, who is deliberately bucking the system, and at times, speaking out intemperately, and belittling the central leadership, in the hope that he would be crowned king with the blessings from nagpur
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Also less bribes. The more unecessary regulations, the more rent seeking.
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this one product wonder is both a woke and an urban naxal.

WTF is this @h0le and how does India's geopolitics concern him. he is not even an Indian citizen.


Sabeer Bhatia@sabeer

namibia? What’s next - a meet & greet with antarctica’s penguins? Is this foreign policy or a world “get to know me” tour?


Does he even know that namibia is one of the biggest exporters of uranium, diamonds, gold, tungsten.

Obviously a single product has-been can’t gauge the importance of a multi-commodity economy.

leave aside the sheer racism of assuming that visiting black african states have no value.
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^^And that's problem Chetakji
some of the Nouveau Riche have either limited grey cells or limited understanding!!
And because the celebrity status (being equated with the amount of bank balance) and easy access of SM :
All and Sundry including their mother's sister's husband's second cousin have an opinion
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SRajesh wrote: 11 Jul 2025 16:46 ^^But Chetakji
Haven't you noticed that the knives are out!!
Now the new Modus Operandi is the magical 75
...
I don't understand what standing INC and opposition has on the issue of what age RSS and/or BJP folks retire.
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Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

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chetak wrote: 11 Jul 2025 19:49... a senior minister, who is deliberately bucking the system, and at times, speaking out intemperately, and belittling the central leadership,
:?: It can't be Minister Gadkari or is he?!!!
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Re: Modi 3.0 - Bharat

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Prem Kumar wrote:Are they asking residents to be added to voter lists simply based on Aadhaar?
My understanding; a person's name is there on the voter list and he shows his Aadhaar card as proof of identity. If the names match, the name cannot be deleted from the voters list.
Supratik wrote:SC has "suggested" that Adhaar be considered, not "mandated" or "instructed".
I have been trying to get a copy of the order from the Supreme Court web site, but it is not available. The actual wordings used in the order (and not what the media makes out of it) is important.
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