Understanding the US - Again

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Vayutuvan wrote: 12 Jul 2025 03:27 . Pakistan never had any reforms and hence they have still have feudal lords - zamindars, zagirdars, maqtedars,
Sirji
Please check out the 1930’s Indian Provincial Elections
The Jihadis and Muslim League suffered
The Unionist Party wanted to maintain the Zamindari as they controlled much of Punjab
The jihadi enticed the party members with promises of Zamidari and if not agreeable then pure intimidation
Eventually after Sikandar Hayat death the party disintegrated and members co-opted into ML which continued with Zamidari
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A_Gupta wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:06

Likewise, is it a defensible proposition that Modi has done more for financial inclusion (about a billion people)

This may be of interest and could point to some significant data in this regard

https://www.youtube.com/live/R4m_-WvnVm ... 4pcZyfwu7p
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SRajesh wrote: 12 Jul 2025 23:51 Please check out the 1930’s Indian Provincial Elections
The Jihadis and Muslim League suffered
The Unionist Party wanted to maintain the Zamindari as they controlled much of Punjab
The jihadi enticed the party members with promises of Zamidari and if not agreeable then pure intimidation
Eventually after Sikandar Hayat death the party disintegrated and members co-opted into ML which continued with Zamidari
That is interesting. I didn't know.
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This foxnews YT is claiming that in the month of June the treasury dept of US is reporting a $ 27 B surplus. I don't know how true this news is but to report surplus means that the US is reversing its huge borrowings which are increasing the deficit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_4ofthPq5s
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Here is the last year of receipts and outlays of the US Department of Treasury (millions of dollars)
from https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/reports ... rrent.html

Code: Select all

Period	Receipts	Outlays
Jun-24	466,255	537,220
Jul-24	330,377	574,119
Aug-24	306,540	686,620
Sep-24	526,990	462,304 - surplus 64,686
Oct-24	326,770	584,221
Nov-24	301,754	668,517
Dec-24	454,415	541,146
Jan-25	513,294	641,935
Feb-25	296,424	603,441
Mar-25	367,645	528,174
Apr-25	850,169	591,769 - surplus 258,400
May-25	371,229	686,881
Jun-25	526,445	499,435 - surplus 27,010
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This is POTUS!
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Trump is most likely on the epstein list. Russia has good "hard" evidence on Trump! :D
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bala wrote: 13 Jul 2025 21:12 This foxnews YT is claiming that in the month of June the treasury dept of US is reporting a $ 27 B surplus. I don't know how true this news is but to report surplus means that the US is reversing its huge borrowings which are increasing the deficit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_4ofthPq5s
Fox is pro Trump. Don't know which channel to believe in anymore !
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drnayar wrote: 13 Jul 2025 23:50 Trump is most likely on the epstein list. Russia has good "hard" evidence on Trump! :D
If that were to be the case, Biden admin would have released the list long ago (after redacting the names of their boys - Bill Clinton/Bill Gates/Tom Hanks/Ellen De Generis/and other hollowheads of Burbank. :twisted:
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drnayar wrote: 13 Jul 2025 23:52 Fox is pro Trump. Don't know which channel to believe in anymore !
Many folks believe the Steele dossier. :((
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1. There is an Epstein list - Trump's attorney general Pam Bondi said that it was sitting on her desk.

2. There is no Epstein list - Trump's FBI and DoJ announced so.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1407001/dl?inline

3. There is an Epstein list - but it is one created by Obama, Hilary Clinton, etc. etc. per Trump above.

Why the Democrats would create a Epstein list which names their own folks needs to be figured out.

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The issue for Trump is that he campaigned on the issue, and promised to release the Epstein list.

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What the FBI/DOJ said is that there is no 'incriminating 'client' list". As Philip Rotner points out:
The DOJ’s deliberately opaque phrasing about what was not in the Epstein files tells us absolutely nothing about what was. The three words that do all the work here—“incriminating,” “client,” and “list”—only raise more questions.

What, exactly is an “incriminating ‘client list’”? Why are the words “client list” in quotation marks? What does the absence of an “incriminating ‘client list’” tell us about what is revealed in the Epstein files? Does it mean that Epstein’s clients, enablers, and party bros are indeed identified in the files, but not in the format of a “list”? Does it mean that there’s a list, but it doesn’t expressly identify those on it as “clients”? Does it mean that there’s a list of clients, but the Trump DOJ doesn’t interpret it as “incriminating”? If Epstein hooked up some of his party bros with underage (or drugged or coerced) girls but didn’t get paid money for doing so, are the bros—whose conduct may have crossed the line into criminality—“clients”? If their names are in a black book, a flight log, or a guest registry, is that a “list”? Is it a “client list”? Is it an “incriminating client list”?

When you get right down to it, does “no incriminating ‘client list’” mean anything at all, other than that there’s no single document with the words “INCRIMINATING ‘CLIENT LIST’” emblazoned on the cover?
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In the meantime, Vivek Ramawami is relentlessly trolled by MAGA.
https://youtu.be/vyjopF6Gumg?si=hHaSPK3ILTnC6xOB
Vivek Ramaswamy is not new to social media trolling as he's asked to go to India every time he posts something on X. As the Ohio Governor hopeful posted a family picture celebrating the Fourth of July, it was a repetition of the same situation -- people asking him what he has to do with July the Fourth and that he should go back to India, celebrate either in Mumbai and Gujarat -- summing up a few reactions to his post. How could they act like that who do they think they are, Doge?

At a time when ELon Musk has declared his independence from Maga and had to defend Vivek from its more racist elements, which ELon would know something about, Vivek is still shuffling for middle America biscuits even as they tell him to his face they don't want him. Only a Black conservative could truly understand.
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From 1996 to 2015, Donald J. Trump co-owned the Miss Universe Organization, which also included the Miss U.S.A. and Miss Teen U.S.A. pageants. In some sense Epstein was in similar business though of sinister kind and with deep state connections. Epstein was an agent of Israel too. Both of them had access to young women. In the US, men and women mingling together is not a big deal, similar to changing underwear. So why make a big deal out of such behaviour.
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Because sleeping with under age girls or boys is a crime. In the pseudo puritan conservative and moralising America, such crimes pinned on someone is a powerful political weapon. No one really cares about the victims and that too is telling.
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A_Gupta wrote: 14 Jul 2025 04:30 Why the Democrats would create a Epstein list which names their own folks needs to be figured out.
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Confirmation bias.

Why not? That above linear think doesn't take into account the internal dissension in the DNC and jockeying for power. We have seen how they treated Ms. T Gabbard vis a vis (former) VP KD Harris. Anything is possible with both the parties. I am reminded of "Trump getting peed on" in the Russia Dossier or Rev. Jackson's comments on (former) President Obama or (former) President Biden being sidetracked by (former) Speaker N. Pelosi and (former) President Obama himself. I think BHO wants Michelle Obama to be the first woman black president, not KD.

Newsom is a man who as white as one can get. And nepo kid. Probably BHO wouldn't like him to be the POTUS.
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This Epstein character is a deep state operative. He procures young women/men whatever and he has them in disparate locations far away from US. Since the deep state has members starting from the Crown Council onwards, Britshit Royalty, wealthy dudes like Bill Gates and highly Politically exposed persons like Bill Clinton, their R&R is taken care of by membership to the club. Epstein is in charge of one of the R&R activity in islands/boats/yachts/etc owned by the Deep State where there are no laws enforced. The list that Epstein has is more on his business side of procuring assets for R&R and the other list is owned by the Deep State. Recently Gislaine M Epstein's girlfriend and co crime partner is telling everyone she has a list. So there are many versions of the so-called list being bandied about and the public are taken for a ride. The actual levers are controlled by the Deep State who work in mysterious ways.
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A_Gupta wrote: 14 Jul 2025 04:30 3. There is an Epstein list - but it is one created by Obama, Hilary Clinton, etc. etc. per Trump above.
If there is no list:

1. Why is Maxwell in jail?
2. Why did Prince Andrew settle with Giuffre for USD 12 million?
3. Giuffre's father is saying that her "suicide" should be investigated. He believes she was suicided.

One CT doing rounds is that Trump has 3.5 more years to keep this sword hanging on Dems' heads. He might pull out the damning evidence when Dems started coalescing around a leader. So he wants to lull Dems into a false sense of safety for now.
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bala wrote: 15 Jul 2025 01:03 This Epstein character is a deep state operative.
Supposedly Mossad. But we will never know. I am not sure whether people will believe any list at this point. The only person who can shed light is G Maxwell. I am sure she had been wrung dry by Biden admin as well as 6 months of Trump.

The interrogators AS would not have eld back on using third degree and Scopalamine.
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^ anyone with remote Jewish connections is deemed as a mossad agint . More reflective of anti semitism . We ll see raa agent allegations upon desis in the coming years from the west just like we see from porkis .

I have a colleague that is deeply racist white dude . His antisemitism became overt in the last few months with all the success Israel had . If he could get away with it he would probably hurt racists slurs against me as well . Once asked me why yindoos online support Israel so much .

Credit to our yehudi cousins for managing the Yankee political system well . They have to do all they could for survival.

I think Epstein was your standard issue rich political fixer that provided pedophilia services to big shots . Nothing more ,nothing less . Lot of his alleged client list was anti Israel . Such as john Kerry and Tony blair .

Further an ex Israeli pm was his client . But that dude is in an out of jail for corruption in Israel and reflects his individual scumbagness.

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I have no idea what is with the anti-semitism elite liberals like John Kerry, AOC, even KD Harris (she passed over Shapiro to pick China pasand Walz), and AAs. AAs seem to be quite anti-semitic. AAs tend to be social conservatives and very xtist or sometimes Islamists like Malcolm X, Muhammad Ali. Are there any prominent AA Hindus? I haven't seen one. Ma'am Oprah Winfrey is making some noises now a days. Many hollywood elite are quite anti-hindu as they believe that hindus are patriarchal misogynists, wife burners, and casteist.
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^^ even conservative qtiyas ,not just libtards. tucker carlson ,candace owen ,jackson hinkle , steve bannon etc

https://www.the-independent.com/news/wo ... 73218.html

basically the people who hate yindoos are generally the ones who hate yehuds with rare exceptions.

if you explore white supre-ass phorums like stormfront pre-9/11 they were fantasizing about finishing what hitler did..

the rise in hinduphobia post 10/7 has a lot to do with massive support Desi social warriors have given to Yisrael.

We (Hindu-Americans) really need to play it out smart and course correct. neither ends of the poltical spectrum are particularly fond of us. The Yehudas have understood this really well and used AIPAC effectively ,something that we failed.

As India grows in stature we should be weary bipartisan. Also expect anti-Hindu attacks to rise . we are sitting ducks given that most of use are unarmed and unfit . if we face violence in the west we won't be able to leetcode or spell or solve navier stokes equation of the semi-liquid poop that comes out of our mush when we see a gun . we will have to fight .
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