A_Gupta wrote: ↑24 Jul 2025 23:32
PM Modi’s father was also a small business owner. It neither tells anything about wealth, nor income - two very distinct things. For example, just as a possibility, AIC’s father was a second-generation Bronxite. He might have inherited property; but architecture is not a lucrative profession for the vast majority of architects.
Thank you, this is instructive. It will help people see what I mean.
To sustain the myth of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's humble, working-class origins, it becomes necessary to posit some truly eye-popping class equivalences: such as between the owner of an architectural firm in the New York City area, and a tea seller on a railway platform in 1950s India.
And of course the absurdity of such comparisons must be buffered by a semantic shifting of goalposts: Architects are
not rich!! Yorktown Heights, Westchester is
not expensive!!
Again. To the latter point-- there are ample data showing that
about half of millennial Americans and nearly 3/4 of gen Z Americans cannot afford to buy ANY kind of home. And that among the vast numbers of these people who must rent their living spaces, about
half feel that they will never be able to afford a home given their wealth and income.
In other words, for a great swath of Americans-- no longer just the "white working class" of rural Appalachia whom J D Vance wrote about in "Hillbilly Elegy", but much more numerous than that--
yes, buying a home in AOC's hometown IS unaffordably expensive.
Many Desi Americans may not consider shelling out $6 to 700,000 for a stand-alone single family house in Yorktown Heights, Westchester to be 'expensive'. That's because many Desis, even if they do not see themselves as 'rich' but 'middle class', ARE part of the economic elite in the US. Maybe we can dip into our money-market accounts and purchase such a home at relatively short notice, paying cash without feeling much of a pinch-- how many Americans do we imagine this to be true for?
Hopefully any who are reading this will realise that it is a big reason why we are hated, considered 'white-adjacent' and accused of 'privilege' by Leftists in the United States: not only for being economically successful, but appearing clueless about the implications of our economic success relative to a very large portion of the American public.
That's as good a place to begin "Understanding the US" as any, and a rather useful one from our own perspective.
When Pappu’s mother worked cleaning houses and as a bus driver after her husband’s death, then let us compare origin stories, IMO. Also, coming from a politically unknown lineage vs Motilal Nehru - Jawaharlal Nehru -India Gandhi - Rajiv Gandhi - Pappu is hardly comparable. I suggest some deep calming breaths before making far fetched comparisons.
Since you bring that up, we all know what they claim Pappu's mother did for a living when she met her husband-- bartending, the much-publicized highlight of AOC's resume!

Are you saying SHE wasn't from humble working-class origins?
Also, there's a difference between working a relatively menial job for a few years while having the security of home-ownership in an affluent neighborhood with a good school district, vs. a multitude of Americans who clean homes or drive buses while renting their living spaces, trapped in permanent debt, and unable to aspire to anything better for their children.
Your own reference to the distinction between 'wealth' and 'income' would be relevant here. AOC's mother was trying to supplement the family's income, temporarily, after her husband's death. Genuinely working-class and underprivileged Americans toil away at such jobs for their very sustenance, and with no hope of ever accumulating significant net worth i.e. wealth.
In all seriousness, I am not comparing the
actual origins of Pappu and AOC. What I am drawing attention to are the
sustained, well-funded propaganda campaigns to systematically misrepresent the origin stories of both these people, shaping fact-free mythologies around them to improve their electability. More successfully, thus far, in AOC's case.
The similarities in the content, distribution networks, and backing of these propaganda campaigns not only indicate the functioning of a common nexus behind the two; they should also warn Indians about what to expect in the (distinctly possible) event that AOC wins the Democrat primary for the 2028 Presidential Election.
I have made no secret of my opinion of Trump or the GOP here. Thanks to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, however, I am of the unshakable opinion that there are much worse things to look forward to than a third Trump Presidency (or one fronted by a nominated minion ruling on his behalf).