Terroristan - March 31, 2022

[VinodTK]

"Asim Munir Is Osama Bin Laden In A Suit...: Ex-Pentagon Official Condemns Pakistan's Nuke Threat

[SRajesh]

Sridharji
Is it just rhetoric and bluster in some of the Paki Anal Cyst papers or is there truth to them certain missiles in the Jihadi naval force being operationalised??

[gakakkad]

they have 5 ancient small disel submarines they have been trying to retrofit with AIP for a while. it appears that even they aren't operational perrenially. they have <10 frigates and corvettes with very poor maintenance . When i said they can pose challenge to houthis or somali pirates on a good day , i forgot to add the caveat that someone will need to tow the Pakistani navy to the gulf of Aden for even that to happen.

insofar as porki missiles are concerned even the Land base BMs are more like bowel movements than ballistic missiles. They are scud level and may not work . If they want to use the nukes their best bet is smuggling a dirty bomb or kamikazing a mirage 5 or a bandarr and hoping it triggers.

[Ambar]

Munir openly threatening nuclear attacks against a U.S. ally while on American soil and facing no consequences shows both the urgent need for and glaring absence of effective PR and lobbying. While it’s clear he enjoys the assurances and backing of the current US administration, his remarks should have drawn strong criticism from the media and other political leaders outside the admin. Irrespective of the Govt in Delhi, we have consistently neglected the fundamentals, underinvesting in our own narrative while allowing Pakis a free pass on the global stage.

[gakakkad]

US "strategic partner" . Not an ally . Humongous difference.

[SSridhar]

US "strategic partner" . Not an ally . Humongous difference.

Yes, TSP is an ally and we are a 'partner'. Ours is 'Comprehensive Global and Strategic Partnership'.
Each has made a deliberate choice on what sort of relationship one wanted.

[chetak]

[A_Gupta]

Detailed report on Reno Dik. Any mining experts here?
https://s25.q4cdn.com/322814910/files/d ... 241231.pdf

[A_Gupta]

August 13, 2025
Barrick seeks $3.5 billion financing for Reko Die.
https://www.chemanalyst.com/NewsAndDeal ... ject-38537

My impression is that previous funding efforts have fallen through.

[chetak]

Porkies barely have a navy . On a good day they could create a minor challenge for somali pirates or Houthis . The difference between IN and TSPN is probably as much as between isro and Thailand space agency .

I didn't wanna even mention suar-co ).

Their subs are old and barely function . I doubt they can operate > 50 nautical miles beyond their shore .
Indian coast guards are definitely more power projection capability.
They can kidnap fisherman for sure .

gakakkad ji,


Au contraire, we seem to be dawdling with our AIP upgrades that the DRDO was to have completed some time ago, but hasn't delivered yet.


In the meanwhile, the pakis have raced ahead.

they already operate AIP-equipped Agosta-90B submarines of french origin and are poised to induct eight advanced Yuan-class submarines with AIP technology from cheen.

India's Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has experienced significant delays in delivering its Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) system, with a fuel cell-based prototype initially expected to be ready around 2017 but still pending integration as of August 2025.

The system's integration into the Navy's Scorpene-class submarines is crucial for enhancing underwater endurance, with the upgrade for INS Khanderi now hoped for by mid-2026, though no Indian submarine currently has the technology

The delays have put India in a disadvantageous position, as regional rivals like the pakis already operate submarines with AIP technology.

[uddu]

From the Navy thread, Orders for 2 AIPs need manufactured by L&T. This was supposed to be fitted from the First sub during refit, which will now happen from Second submarine onwards. DRDO has done their job and delivered the tech to L&T. The delay being at L&Ts end in manufacturing and delivering those AIPs to MDL.

[chetak]

Munir openly threatening nuclear attacks against a U.S. ally while on American soil and facing no consequences shows both the urgent need for and glaring absence of effective PR and lobbying. While it’s clear he enjoys the assurances and backing of the current US administration, his remarks should have drawn strong criticism from the media and other political leaders outside the admin. Irrespective of the Govt in Delhi, we have consistently neglected the fundamentals, underinvesting in our own narrative while allowing Pakis a free pass on the global stage.

Ambar ji,


failed marshal has threatened the jamnagar refinery by naming ambani

India now has the legitimate reason to target the paki army's fauji foundation's $40 billion assets and rip the guts out of the paki army's commercial ecosystem, leaving the paki jernails bhooka and nanga and their aam faujis will all have to forget their hooka paani.

[chetak]

From the Navy thread, Orders for 2 AIPs need manufactured by L&T. This was supposed to be fitted from the First sub during refit, which will now happen from Second submarine onwards. DRDO has done their job and delivered the tech to L&T. The delay being at L&Ts end in manufacturing and delivering those AIPs to MDL.

uddu ji,


DRDO is still responsible for the QC, and the AIP system integration, the land trials and also the sea trials.

As designers, it is their primary responsibility to ensure that the customer gets a safe product, and to also specify the maintenance procedures for the AIP, the life of components et al. These procedures will change as operational experience is gained

when the IN accepts the first (and maybe the second AIP), it will be from the DRDO

Even during the initial manufacture, DRDO has to hold L&T's hand all the way through.

It's only after that stage that the tech transfer is deemed complete and the responsibility shifts to L&T to deliver the remaining units per the established SOPs, acceptance and delivery checks for the AIP which have yet to be written

[gakakkad]

PN has a total of 5 somewhat operational submarines currently . There are 8 Chinese submarines supposedly on order with no confirmation of delivery timelines . There have been some speculate reports about them retrofitting agostas or in process of it . Either ways they are ancient and noisy and barely a threat .

[chanakyaa]

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failed marshal has threatened the jamnagar refinery by naming ambani

On one of the podcasts, I had heard that the