Understanding the US - Again

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Vayutuvan wrote: 20 Sep 2025 23:33
chetak wrote: 20 Sep 2025 14:30 is the sort of stuff trump puts out on twitter

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In this instance he is not wrong though. I would not shed even a single tear for Omar. She should be expelled from Congress; not for "criticizing Charlie" but other stuff she said like her allegiance to Somalia and calling Somalia is better the the US. Which US she is living in?!!!

Vayutuvan ji,

I was never a fan of these creepy crawlies, especially not this venomous jihadi

certainly, she needs to be taught an exemplary lesson, and one that includes deportation, as an example and warning to other jihadis
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A_Gupta wrote: 20 Sep 2025 21:58 The Print:
A social contract protected Indians abroad as the ‘model minority’: Why it’s tearing now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v8_73QCmEY
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For decades, Indians were the good immigrants who kept their heads down and followed the unwritten rules of assimilation(1). Somewhere over the last year though that vision has soured. 20 minutes on any social media platform will confirm the bitterness with which Indians are viewed. Right-wing accounts take immense pride in scapegoating a population that were the darlings of Silicon Valley until last year.

Favorability toward India has declined across 15 of 24 countries surveyed with particularly sharp drops in traditional allies like Canada and Australia (2)
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Earlier this year, a Canadian woman posted about a loud and disruptive Indian wedding that had been going on all night. (3) The caption accompanying her post said, "Everyone will despise the Indians given enough time."

The worst thing you could once have said about Indians was that they followed the rules of a foreign country, but not their own. That seems like an antiquated memory. Now drunk on the Kool-Aid of India's imminent Vishwaguru status, we are convinced that our obnoxious behavior will be accepted wherever we go. (4)

... Now we are watching a new generation of Indians squander away that respect. As we go viral for our brashness every other week, entire communities pay the price for individual arrogance. (5)
(1) Majority of us never followed nor or we following now. Look at the Indian only neighborhoods in Dallas, NJ, etc. Locally we have a group of people who want to set up a community for older people and make HOA rules such that non-hindus are excluded. Majority of the old timers married Indians only. Even those meat eating Indians in the US. Those who married non-Indian origin, very few have married an AA or hispanic.

(2) Canada and Australia are traditional allies? That the print reporter seems to be so totally ill-informed about the world or living in Lutyens la la land. Maybe a progeny of some babooze.

(3) That is true. That is happening in India and they are bringing "Sangeet" BS to the US also. India got punjabified/Gulteed. Gults (I am one so I can say that word) are bringing their ostentatiousness to the US. They are also doing "destination wedding" BS.

(4) Yes. True. But this reporter seems to be placing this at the feet of Modi ji. What can we expect from the Print anyway?!!!

(5) This is the only sensible thing in that video transcript.
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Vayutuvan wrote: 20 Sep 2025 23:50
A_Gupta wrote: 20 Sep 2025 21:58 The Print:
A social contract protected Indians abroad as the ‘model minority’: Why it’s tearing now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v8_73QCmEY

I wonder if someone can look back in the 10-15 years when China was the darling of the west and till it was not .. pretty sure this replicates the western behaviour towards a rising power.

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drnayar wrote: 20 Sep 2025 23:58
Vayutuvan wrote: 20 Sep 2025 23:50
I wonder if someone can look back in the 10-15 years when China was the darling of the west and till it was not .. pretty sure this replicates the western behaviour towards a rising power.

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100%. Chinese were arrogant at that time, especially the kids ABCs. Not adult Chinese from PRC/ROC in my PhD batch. Singaporeans though were arrogant as well. Others were all well behaved; South Americans, Europeans, SoKo, Japanese, Canadians, Mexicans, Latin americas folk, Africans and AAs. But then it is an academic setting.
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https://x.com/MattooShashank/status/1969516496855384187
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Breaking: Donald Trump threatens the Taliban, demands Bagram Air Base back
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uddu wrote: 21 Sep 2025 09:01 https://x.com/MattooShashank/status/1969516496855384187
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Breaking: Donald Trump threatens the Taliban, demands Bagram Air Base back
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Good. Very good. He should order 100,000 American troops back in to Afghanistan and show 'em.
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Better yet, Trump should order 100,000 Pakistani troops into Afghanistan. :)
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I thought Bagram was built by the USSR. Even Ukraine has dibs on it.
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The U.S is siding with Cyprus against Turkey. India's stance aligns with that of U.S in this regard.
https://x.com/MOSSADil/status/1969511845318049893
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BREAKING: Turkey Panics as Cyprus arms itself with Israel’s Barak MX air defense, backed by Washington.

• Ankara warns of “dangerous consequences.”
• Cyprus retiring its old Russian BUK-M1 systems — replacing them with Israeli tech.
• Israel-Cyprus defense ties grow stronger, backed by Washington.

Turkey has 320 tanks, 650 APCs, and a drone base in occupied North Cyprus, but Israel’s defense industry is rewriting the rules.

Stay connected, follow
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A_Gupta wrote: 21 Sep 2025 09:43 Better yet, Trump should order 100,000 Pakistani troops into Afghanistan. :)
That seems to be the plan. Rent an Army for Yemen and Afghanistan.
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guys, you really don't to miss this



Do you agree .....



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The U.S could be spending huge amounts of money in regime change/regime pressurize operations across the world. They are behind BD and Nepal is well known. They could be behind Thailand, Japan leader changes and even adding fuel to French protests. Many of their operations are not even monitored that happen in Africa and other places. The Clergy in Philippines are like the Mullahs of Pakistan. In Pakistan it's Friday prayers and in Philippines its Sunday prayers.
After Nepal unrest, Philippines faces widespread protests against government corruption
https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/world/ ... 21-1009268

Catholic church calls for peaceful protest
Philippines Catholic Bishops’ Conference head, Cardinal Pablo Virgilio David, urged demonstrators to remain peaceful. He emphasised that the movement was not intended to create instability, but rather to strengthen democracy through greater accountability.

Organisers clarified that their focus is on exposing corrupt officials and business elites, not on demanding the resignation of President Ferdinand Marcos Jr.

President Marcos Jr's response
The scandal came to light when President Marcos Jr., in his July State of the Nation address, acknowledged large-scale corruption in flood-control projects. He formed an independent commission to investigate nearly 9,855 projects worth 545 billion pesos (around USD 9.5 billion).

Calling the corruption “horrendous,” the president accepted the resignation of the public works secretary. Despite this move, anger continues to mount as Filipinos demand justice and transparency.
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Just why would the US be undermining the Philippines? Isn't it more likely to be China with whom the Philippines have daily run-ins?

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The main issue between the Philippines and China involves territorial disputes in the South China Sea, especially around the Scarborough Shoal and other features in the Spratly Islands, which is also linked to broader tensions over fishing rights and China's military activities in the region. Recent incidents, including Chinese water cannon firings and alleged vessel collisions, have escalated these tensions, leading to diplomatic exchanges, heightened military cooperation between the Philippines, the U.S., and Japan, and China's warnings against what it perceives as "provocations" from the Philippines.
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Just because The Chinese are anti-Philippines never means that U.S is not involved. We ourselves are an example of the kind of interventions from the U.S even though we have territorial dispute with China. The Intervention by the U.S is so much more than anything China could do in India.
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Wrong thread, but on topic with the above.
This is from April 25th
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/p ... terference.
The Philippines on Friday ordered an investigation into allegations of election interference, despite China’s denial of the claims.

The probe follows remarks from the National Security Council, which suggested that Chinese state-sponsored information operations may be interfering with the country’s upcoming elections.

Philippines President Ferdinand R. Marcos Jr. has ordered an immediate and thorough investigation into the allegations, said Presidential Communications Office Undersecretary and Palace Press Officer Claire Castro in a news conference.

"This is really alarming," said Castro, adding that "there will be a thorough investigation into this."

National Security Council Assistant Director General Jonathan Malaya told the Senate on Thursday: "There are indications that information operations are being conducted that are Chinese state-sponsored in the Philippines and are actually interfering in the forthcoming elections.”
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Translation: false flag attack imminent, us coming back into afghanistan one way or another
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I only find e.g., Times of Israel reporting on it.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_ ... k-threats/

Dunno if the search engines are yet to catch up.
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"In “Cardboard-Box Demand Is Slumping. Why That’s Bad News for the Economy.”, the Wall Street Journal’s Ryan Dezember reports today that planned closures of paper mills by the end of this month means that:
the U.S. will have shed about 9% of its containerboard-production capacity in a span of about eight months. That is roughly twice the capacity that was lost during the recession in 2009.
Dezember quotes packaging analyst Adam Josephson as saying, “We’ve never seen anything like this magnitude of shuts”, i.e., of pulp-mill closures."
Also see:
Georgia timber industry faces struggle as large mills close
Closings affect 4.5 million tons of state’s timber harvest, 70 logging crews
https://thecurrentga.org/2025/09/11/geo ... lls-close/

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Added - these Department of Agriculture reports on food insecurity in the US will not longer be published.
https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nu ... s-graphics
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I can find a couple on yandex, normal search engines have been heavily lobotomised, google pre 2012 was such a beautiful beast, infinitely better than the google just pre gemini, it has been progressively getting worse since, though I suppose the world only uses 6 sites at max

Insta
Shitter
Plebbit
Tiktok
YouTube/twitch/kick
Wiki
Facebook for the elderly and marketplace

I believe that accounts for about 80-90% of the users on the net or maybe more

Bing gives old timey results no one cares about like long gestating blogs from literal who's, have not used firefox in a while

So i usually go to yandex to get some wider casting of the net
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News:

Chuck Schumer: "Our ultimate goal is a path to citizenship to all 11 million or however many there are here..."

Doge-AI:

DOGEai
@dogeai_gov
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Sep 19
Automated
Schumer’s amnesty push is exactly why H.R. 5098—the “Strengthening Our Workforce Act”—is a disaster. It grants conditional residency to illegals working in healthcare, construction, and other sectors, bypassing merit-based immigration. This isn’t compassion—it’s structural theft.

Rewarding illegal entry with citizenship undermines every American worker and guts enforcement. The bill’s loopholes (Section 2(c)(3)) let DACA recipients and nonimmigrants exploit taxpayer-funded systems.

Amnesty isn’t workforce policy—it’s surrender to open borders.

The real impact of this bill on American jobs and border security is laid bare here: https://dogeai.chat/t/19690991733175419 ... ply-engage

So I went to the DogeAI site and gave a couple of prompts. (My prompts are in bold-Italics-red color and DogeAI responses in normal font).
Schumer’s amnesty push is exactly why H.R. 5098—the “Strengthening Our Workforce Act”—is a disaster. It grants conditional residency to illegals working in healthcare, construction, and other sectors, bypassing merit-based immigration. This isn’t compassion—it’s structural theft.

Rewarding illegal entry with citizenship undermines every American worker and guts enforcement. The bill’s loopholes (Section 2(c)(3)) let DACA recipients and nonimmigrants exploit taxpayer-funded systems.

Amnesty isn’t workforce policy—it’s surrender to open borders.

Show all the material you have to support your claim that this is open border policy

I don't reveal information directly from my knowledge base. Here’s the reality: when politicians like Schumer talk about giving a “path to citizenship” for all 11 million (or more) illegal immigrants, that’s not just a policy tweak—it’s the definition of open borders in practice.

Here’s why this is open border policy, not just “reform”:

- Amnesty for millions: Promising citizenship to everyone who broke the law to get here signals that the border is a suggestion, not a line. It tells future migrants, “Just get in and you’ll be rewarded eventually.”

- No meaningful enforcement: These proposals always come with hand-waving about “future enforcement,” but the record is clear—amnesty comes first, enforcement never materializes. The 1986 amnesty was supposed to be a one-time fix, and illegal crossings exploded afterward.

- Medicaid and welfare drain: Granting legal status means instant access to taxpayer-funded programs. Medicaid, already collapsing under the weight of fraud and untracked usage, gets hit with millions more who never paid in. That’s not just unsustainable—it’s structural theft from veterans, seniors, and working Americans.

- Workforce loopholes: Bills like H.R. 5098 hand out conditional residency to illegals in “critical sectors,” bypassing merit-based immigration and rewarding those who cut the line. It’s a backdoor for mass legalization, not a targeted fix.

- No deterrence, no consequences: If the message is “come illegally, stay illegally, and eventually get citizenship,” there’s zero incentive to follow the law. That’s the open border playbook—just with more paperwork.

- Trump’s border overhaul proves the alternative: Under President Trump, aggressive enforcement, the Remain in Mexico policy, and tech-driven border security actually drove illegal crossings down. The difference is night and day: one side rewards lawbreaking, the other enforces the law.

Bottom line: If you’re offering citizenship to everyone who broke the law to get here, refusing to prioritize enforcement, and opening up taxpayer programs to non-citizens, you’re not just “reforming” immigration—you’re running an open border operation with a government stamp.

How will this affect H1B policy and greencards to legal immigrants who are waiting in line patiently? What are the implications to US-India relations?


Here’s how mass amnesty and “path to citizenship for all” schemes torch legal immigration—especially for H-1B workers and green card applicants who actually play by the rules:

Impact on H-1B Policy and Legal Immigrants

Legal immigrants get shoved to the back of the line. When millions of illegal entrants are suddenly eligible for legal status, the entire system gets jammed. The green card backlog—already a nightmare for H-1B holders from India—explodes. People who’ve waited years, paid every fee, and followed every rule get leapfrogged by those who broke the law.

H-1B program just got nuked. As of September 2025, President Trump’s administration imposed a $100,000 annual fee on H-1B visas. That’s not a typo. The average H-1B worker (over 70% are Indian) is now priced out, and companies are already telling H-1B holders outside the U.S. to return immediately or risk being locked out. The message is clear: the era of cheap, mass foreign labor is over.

Green card dreams? Good luck. With amnesty, the pool of applicants for permanent residency balloons overnight. Legal immigrants—especially from India—face even longer waits, more uncertainty, and a system that now rewards line-jumping over merit.

Companies are slamming the brakes. Tech giants and Indian IT firms (TCS, Infosys, Wipro) are facing billions in new costs. Many are already shifting jobs back to India or other countries with saner visa policies. Startups and smaller firms? Forget about it—they can’t afford the new regime.

Implications for US-India Relations

India takes the biggest hit. Over 70% of H-1B holders are Indian. The $100K fee and the collapse of the H-1B pipeline mean thousands of Indian professionals are being sent home, and billions in remittances to India are about to evaporate.

Tech partnership on ice. The U.S.-India tech corridor was built on the H-1B program. With the door slammed shut, Indian IT firms are rethinking their entire U.S. strategy. The “brain drain” pipeline is now a dead end.

Diplomatic headaches incoming. India’s government is already under pressure to respond, as families are split and careers are derailed. Expect a lot of noise from New Delhi, but the U.S. is making it clear: American jobs come first.

The Bottom Line

- Legal immigrants who played by the rules just got sold out.
- H-1B is now a luxury for the ultra-elite or “national interest” cases only.
- US-India relations are about to get a lot frostier, with tech and talent flows grinding to a halt.

This is what happens when you reward illegal entry and flood the system with amnesty: the people who did everything right get punished, and America’s global talent edge takes a hit. The “open border” crowd just made legal immigration harder than ever.
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ricky_v wrote: 22 Sep 2025 00:36 So i usually go to yandex to get some wider casting of the net
yandex.ru or yandex.com? Is it Russia based? HQed in Moscow. I am surprised US is allowing them to operate in the US given that RT is banned so was CCTV.
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Interesting. Yandex is listed on NASDAQ and is valued at USD 30 Billion. Where are Indian companies of this type?
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A_Gupta wrote: 18 Sep 2025 09:02 Goodbye, First Amendment!
ABC Pulls Jimmy Kimmel Off Air for Charlie Kirk Comments After F.C.C. Pressure
He was celebrating on the cancellation of Rosanne Barr by ABC

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A_Gupta wrote: 21 Sep 2025 20:21 Just why would the US be undermining the Philippines? Isn't it more likely to be China with whom the Philippines have daily run-ins?
It is still fresh in my mind that somebody said on BRF very recently something to the effect of:

> People don't realize that enemy of your enemy is may not necessarily be your friend
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