Vayusena & Nausena Rafale: News & Discussion

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The reason why Tejas Mk1A has more TRMs than Dassault Rafale is a design trade-off. Rafale’s nose cone also accommodates large LRUs like the FSO (Formidable System).
The compactness of the platform is another reason why its in-flight refueling probe is fixed.
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From Safran to Rafale: How India's Defence Deals Are Powering a New 'Atmanirbhar' Era
https://www.timesnownews.com/india/from ... -153070465
29 Oct 2025

India to boost air-to-air combat capabilities with more Meteor missiles
https://aninews.in/news/national/politi ... 030200341/
30 Oct 2025
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Cross posting from Missile thread...

Additional Meteor for IAF's Rafale | Rs 1500 Crore worth missile order | हिंदी में

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https://x.com/ReviewVayu/status/1985655311802515501 ----> Today, Dassault Aviation inaugurated the new premises of its Dassault Aircraft Services India – Engineering Center (DASI-EC) in Pune, Maharashtra. This significant expansion will double the centre's capacity to accommodate over 150 engineers and meet its offset obligations under the Rafale contract.

Dassault: "The Pune Engineering Centre plays a crucial role in supporting the transfer of Rafale and Falcon production to India, contributing to the nation's self-sufficiency in aeronautics and positioning it as a leading hub for technological innovation and industrial excellence".
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Is India’s Looming Mega-Deal For 114 Rafales Worth It?
https://www.livefistdefence.com/is-indi ... -worth-it/
04 Nov 2025


The wheels are in motion and the Indian Air Force’s official files proposing the procurement of 114 Rafale fighters (and, in effect, ending the pursuit of a competitive process) are now at the Ministry of Defence. Bolstered by performance during Operation Sindoor and the Indian Navy’s conclusion of a deal for 26 Rafale-M deck based fighters, the IAF has cleared the air on its intent. Any deal for 114 Rafales, needless to say, will not only be exorbitantly expensive, but also the single biggest defence deal India will ever have signed. The sheer size and audacity of such a deal, which will necessarily involve a major local-build component, raises several questions that require a threadbare analysis. Is there a case for France shifting Rafale production lock-stock to India? What will India really get from this deal apart from the ability to assemble jets in India, something it has done for decades? Does India truly get full access to the core technologies, both mechanical and electronic? Does this deal carry enough financial muscle to bake in technology for an engine? Do old questions about how engine tech can never be shared no matter what the deal size get washed away? Will India be able to mate its own weapons to the Rafale without frictions of the last few years? Does such a deal leave India with a severely committed air power budget that leaves near nothing for stealth aircraft programs and potential procurement? All of those questions featured in a detailed discussion in Episode 25 of Ctrl-Alt-Defence, a weekly podcast led by Livefist founder and NDTV Managing Editor Shiv Aroor with NDTV veteran Vishnu Som.

Is The Rafale Good Enough For IAF's Future Needs?

Join Vishnu Som and Shiv Aroor in the latest installment of #CtrlAltDefence for a look at the future of the Rafale based on its wartime use during Op Sindoor. We also puncture Pak propaganda on their capture of IAF Squadron Leader Shivangi Singh, who appeared in a photograph with President Murmu earlier this week. But the big questions on the Rafale remains - the IAF wants 114 more jets - but this will break the bank. Is the government willing to make this investment? Will Dassault, the manufacturer of the jet be ready for serious tech transfer to India if the jet is assembled here? Will Indian weapons such as the Astra 2 be integrated? Will there be problems in agreeing to the terms of integration? All that and a lot more in this deep-dive into the future of the Rafale in IAF service.

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Is Shiv Aroor stupid to even ask whether France would shift Rafale production to India "Lock Stock and Barrel"??

Is he unaware of the fact that the existing backlog for the Rafale is nearly 200 fighters and that is without even considering the upcoming order for 60 more Rafales from France?? As if they would destroy their own fighter industry just to get an order from India.
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Shiv and other reporters make statements like this for TRPs. They need viewers to watch and then they only answer their own question. Later in the video, he does state that France will keep its crown jewels (on the Rafale) to itself. I am sure you saw the promotion of NDTV throughout the video.
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Rafale Fleet to Receive 24×7 OEM Support — Thales Sends Permanent Representative to Ambala
https://indianmasterminds.com/news/thal ... ce-157130/
04 Nov 2025

In a significant step for India’s air-combat readiness, French aerospace and defence major Thales is poised to position a permanent company representative at the Ambala Air Force Station (AFS)—home to the first squadron of Rafale fighters operated by the Indian Air Force (IAF). This milestone reflects deepening Indo-French defence cooperation, but also raises important questions around mission-critical avionics dependence and sovereign control.

The Rafale fighter platform, procured by India from French company Dassault Aviation, features advanced avionics, sensors and electronic-warfare suites supplied by Thales, including the RBE2 AESA radar and SPECTRA system. According to the news item, Thales’ step comes under the sustainment and performance-based logistics framework for India’s Rafale fleet. The Ambala AFS, located on India’s western front, is strategically vital and hosts one of the IAF’s Rafale squadrons. Ensuring high sortie rates and mission availability for Rafales requires timely maintenance of sophisticated sensors and avionics—the domain where Thales will now have a standing presence onsite.

Major Highlights of the Deal

Thales will station a representative permanently at Ambala AFS to oversee maintenance and technical support for avionics, radar and sensor subsystems of the Rafale fleet.

→ The move formalises Thales’ long-term maintenance commitment under India’s performance-based-logistics (PBL) framework for Rafales.

→ On-ground presence of Thales’ personnel promises real-time diagnostics, faster repair cycles and seamless spares management, thereby enhancing readiness and sortie generation for the IAF.

Strategic Significance & Implications of the Thales’ Permanent Representative

Enhanced Readiness and Operational Availability: With Thales embedded at Ambala AFS, the IAF stands to gain improved operational availability of its Rafale squadrons along the sensitive western border. Faster turnaround of avionics repairs and sensor recalibrations can lead to higher mission readiness and enhanced deterrence posture.

Sovereignty vs Support-Dependence: However, the arrangement also underscores India’s continuing reliance on foreign OEMs for mission-critical subsystems. While readiness improves, sovereignty over avionics upgrades, sensor integration or third-party weapon interface remains constrained. The news commentary emphasises this dual-edged scenario: greater availability, but limited system autonomy.

Indo-French Defence Ecosystem Deepening: The move represents another layer in the growing strategic partnership between India and France in defence manufacturing, support and systems integration. Thales’ presence onsite signals the maturity of the cooperation, moving beyond procurement to long-term support and logistics. The collaboration may also aid future Indian aerospace programmes by providing exposure to next-gen sensor maintenance protocols.

Context within Rafale Sustainment Framework: The Rafale platform’s avionics, including the RBE2 AESA radar and SPECTRA EW suite, are proprietary and largely supplied by Thales. India has sought to integrate indigenous systems, but has repeatedly faced resistance due to export-licence and certification constraints. The permanent presence of Thales at Ambala brings logistical assurance but also highlights the roadmap still to be traversed for full system sovereignty.

What This Means for the Indian Air Force (IAF)

→ Faster turnaround for radar and EW system issues means higher sortie rates, especially in high-tension western theatre.

→ A dedicated OEM liaison onsite reduces logistical bottlenecks, such as waiting for spares or external diagnostic support.

→ The arrangement may become a template for other platforms with foreign OEM-supplied critical subsystems, thereby improving lifecycle support across the IAF.
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